19:03:43 <DavidWHodgins> #startmeeting
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19:03:54 <DavidWHodgins> #chair wilcal lewyssmith
19:03:54 <Inigo_Montoya> Current chairs: DavidWHodgins lewyssmith wilcal
19:04:12 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Who's new? - Anyone new here today
19:04:27 <wilcal> I like people who take charge :-))
19:04:31 <DavidWHodgins> So, anyone here who hasn't been to a qa team irc meeting before?
19:04:56 <DavidWHodgins> Doesn't look like it
19:05:06 <DavidWHodgins> Now for the big topic! :-)
19:05:20 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Mageia 6 - Go or NO?
19:05:41 <wilcal> Is there anything in this set of isos that can't be fixed after release?
19:05:43 <DavidWHodgins> Anyone find any bugs they think should be release blockers?
19:06:11 <wilcal> IMO things I'm finding can be fixed after release
19:06:21 <tjandrews> Nothing here, but my testing opportunities have been limited.
19:06:37 <rindolf> nothing here eiter
19:06:40 <wilcal> Still serious problems but nothing that can be repaired
19:06:49 <lewyssmith> [Back]
19:06:56 <wilcal> the nvidia driver thing I found was awful but repairable
19:07:02 <DavidWHodgins> wilcal: Take it you mean "can't"
19:07:04 <wilcal> after release
19:07:07 <hviaene> Not apparently, with the little testing I have been doing th elasts days
19:07:18 <wilcal> it can be fixed after release
19:07:47 <wilcal> Note: in the last 2-hours i did a successful nvidia/plasma install using netinstall
19:08:00 <wilcal> went very well and a stable desktop with nvidia driver
19:08:13 <DavidWHodgins> Any objections then to giving the council the GO for Mageia 6 release?
19:08:26 <wilcal> Not from me
19:08:29 <tjandrews> It only seems to be a problem if the proprietary driver is added after the install.
19:08:37 <lewyssmith> My own experience is this is very good to go. The new inability to build video modules is serious.
19:08:42 <wilcal> correct
19:08:57 <wilcal> Livemedia install is 100% successful
19:09:10 <lewyssmith> tjandrews: Do I take it that if you choose nonfre for install, that flies?
19:09:22 <tjandrews> Yes.
19:09:29 <lewyssmith> Whew!
19:09:39 <wilcal> I think that the Plasma LiveDVD choses nouveau by default
19:09:45 <tjandrews> For me, on nvidia340, every time.
19:09:59 <DavidWHodgins> #action QA gives GO for Mageia 6 release?
19:10:10 <tjandrews> Go from me.
19:10:11 <wilcal> HORRAAYYYYY!!!!!!
19:10:17 <DavidWHodgins> I'll post a msg to the council ml
19:10:20 <wilcal> It's over
19:10:25 <rindolf> Awesome!
19:10:34 <lewyssmith> Don't forget the ERRATA.
19:10:34 <wilcal> What a task that all was
19:10:36 <rindolf> DavidWHodgins: thanks
19:10:43 <Bequimao> Waiting for a go since long
19:10:53 <wilcal> Over 2-years
19:11:30 <DavidWHodgins> msg sent to council
19:11:47 <lewyssmith> Bequimao: You used to do indoividual desktop installs. Do you still? Have not seen you on the PAD.
19:12:00 <Pharaoh_Atem> YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!
19:12:02 <DavidWHodgins> Thanks everyone for all of the hard work!
19:12:13 * Pharaoh_Atem jumps up and down in excitement
19:12:14 <wilcal> It was a team effort for sure
19:12:30 <lewyssmith> From all over.
19:12:53 <tjandrews> wilcal: Martin is investigating the nvidia thing. He's really good at finding what's causing these problems.
19:12:56 <Bequimao> lewyssmith: Only Plasma, everything fine.
19:13:25 <wilcal> I'm confident he will find lots of wrinkles in this
19:13:29 <DavidWHodgins> Now back to regular qa stuff. :-)
19:13:35 <wilcal> finally
19:13:39 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Testing updates
19:14:30 <DavidWHodgins> We have quit a list again
19:14:44 <DavidWHodgins> http://madb.mageia.org/tools/updates
19:14:46 <[mbot`> [ Mageia App Db - Current Update candidates ]
19:15:07 <DavidWHodgins> Including the first Mageia 6 updates
19:15:30 <DavidWHodgins> Anyone have the skylake cpu with the hyperthreading bug?
19:15:58 <tjandrews> Sigh. I'll have to re-create some M5 installs to test updates on real hardware.
19:16:31 <wilcal> So back to the update list and it's Summertime
19:16:42 <DavidWHodgins> :-)
19:17:14 <tjandrews> Wilcal: only on this half of the world...
19:17:22 <DavidWHodgins> Until we get the list back down to a reasonable size, we'll go back to validating after testing on one arch
19:17:38 <wilcal> x86_64 is preferred
19:18:02 <wilcal> is the sane thing the same as xsane?
19:18:15 <DavidWHodgins> Kernels, should they come up again, and other hardware dependant bugs would still require both arches
19:18:24 <DavidWHodgins> sane is used by xsane
19:18:38 <DavidWHodgins> sane handle the scanning, xsane the gui
19:18:41 <tjandrews> Isn't xsane the gui for sane?
19:18:42 <wilcal> So that's an easy test for me
19:18:57 <hviaene> wilcal: AFAIK is xsane a gui for the scanner stuff
19:19:38 <wilcal> That'll be the first one I'll look at. Maybe today. :-))
19:19:53 <lewyssmith> I have a scanner, I might be able to do this.
19:20:01 <DavidWHodgins> Looking through the list, I don't see any that we haven't had before, or any that are partitculary hard
19:20:18 <tjandrews> I have an Officejet.
19:20:40 <wilcal> David also mention the Council decision on EOL for M5
19:20:45 <DavidWHodgins> Rather then going through each one here, let's just get back to testing them. :-)
19:20:56 <DavidWHodgins> Yes, Halloween! :-)
19:20:56 <tjandrews> But I believe I only have 32-bit M5s left.
19:21:06 <wilcal> I agree David
19:21:29 <Pharaoh_Atem> what was the decision on the Mageia 5 EOL?
19:21:53 <wilcal> 31 Oct
19:21:59 <DavidWHodgins> Pharaoh_Atem: 3 months (and a bit) after release - Oct. 31st, 2017
19:22:08 <Pharaoh_Atem> ah
19:22:22 <Pharaoh_Atem> so basically the same window we did for the M4 -> M5 release
19:22:29 <DavidWHodgins> Pretty much
19:22:34 <wilcal> In with the new, out with the old
19:22:50 <Pharaoh_Atem> I can't say I'm unhappy with that :)
19:23:14 <lewyssmith> tjandrews: 32-bit M5s are valuable!
19:23:15 <wilcal> So I'm with David here only message today is back to updates
19:23:33 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Anything else
19:23:45 <lewyssmith> Not here.
19:23:51 <wilcal> A good Belgium Beer for everyone
19:23:56 <DavidWHodgins> :-)
19:24:16 <DavidWHodgins> Countdown time then
19:24:18 <rindolf> wilcal: can I have orange juice instead?
19:24:22 <DavidWHodgins> T - 5
19:24:27 <DavidWHodgins> T - 4
19:24:30 <DavidWHodgins> T - 3
19:24:32 <lewyssmith> Goodbye everyone.
19:24:33 <wilcal> When would you expect the repos to start moving
19:24:40 <rindolf> lewyssmith: bye
19:24:43 <wilcal> bye all
19:24:50 <rindolf> wilcal: bye
19:24:53 <tjandrews> bye
19:25:09 <DavidWHodgins> wilcal: The iso images will likely be on the mirrors some time this weekend
19:25:17 <wilcal> thks
19:25:34 <wilcal> so by this time next week M6 repo will start to move
19:25:46 <wilcal> maybe a little on M7
19:25:59 <lewyssmith> Wait a bit, Bill!
19:26:15 <wilcal> k bye all
19:26:43 <DavidWHodgins> If like the past, m7 cauldron will not open till we are satisfied Mageia 6.1 iso images are unlikely to be needed
19:26:50 <DavidWHodgins> T -2
19:26:52 <DavidWHodgins> T -1
19:27:25 <DavidWHodgins> #info Thanks for coming everyone! Thanks for all the hard work on Mageia 6. Now get back to testing updates. :-)
19:27:35 <DavidWHodgins> #Endmeeting