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19:02:56 <DavidWHodgins> #chair wilcal tarazed lewyssmith
19:02:56 <Inigo_Montoya`> Current chairs: DavidWHodgins lewyssmith tarazed wilcal
19:03:03 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Who's new? - If you are then come and say hello.
19:03:18 <DavidWHodgins> Anyone here who hasn't been to a qa team irc meeting before?
19:04:05 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Mageia 6 - Testing M6, status
19:04:35 <DavidWHodgins> I just finished syncing latest live iso images. Haven't started testing them yet
19:04:36 <wilcal> Martin asked if there should be pretest on this next set of isos i said no
19:04:55 <brian__> ok - so should anticipate a download overnight
19:04:58 <lewyssmith> Dave - the ISOs are not new.
19:05:05 <krisNL> new?
19:05:15 <rindolf> DavidWHodgins: my bandwidth got bigger recently
19:05:23 <wilcal> martin is working new m6 isos
19:05:47 <lewyssmith> I have checked them often, and they are unchanged since some time. But will re-chzck tjheir dates now.
19:05:52 <krisNL> oh, rindolf is here :)
19:06:17 <wilcal> again just before his meeting i executed a net install of m6, Plasma, x86_64, Vbox client and that went well
19:06:50 <krisNL> wilcal: on real hw?
19:07:08 <wilcal> Vbox client
19:07:23 <krisNL> with the screen issue?
19:07:30 <wilcal> Vbox on M6 x86_64 real hardware
19:07:45 <lewyssmith> All the current RC Lives are dated 3 April; the Classic 7 April.
19:07:48 <wilcal> the little green windows issue is still there and it's a release blocker
19:07:59 <ennael> hi there
19:08:02 <krisNL> bummer
19:08:03 <ennael> just in time
19:08:20 <rindolf> ennael: hi
19:08:30 <lewyssmith> Bienvenue.
19:09:01 <ennael> :)
19:09:30 <wilcal> David was worried about his connectivity
19:09:41 <lewyssmith> So are you now!
19:09:55 <wilcal> we are awaiting new isos for M6 ennael
19:10:01 <ennael> yep build in progress
19:10:09 <ennael> should be done in 1/4h
19:10:13 <krisNL> awaiting lives
19:10:23 <wilcal> I told Martin no pretest just go for it
19:10:24 <tarazed> will that include the fix  Martin mentioned?
19:10:34 <lewyssmith> Which fix?
19:10:40 <ennael> shall I upload it as pretest or for all QA ?
19:10:46 <tarazed> i.e.  for bug 20111
19:10:47 <[mbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20111 normal, release_blocker, basesystem, NEW , partway through upgrade from Mga5 to Mga6 "Error: 'script' failed for glibc-6:2.22-21.mga6.i586....", ncurses, glibc
19:10:53 <lewyssmith> ennael: Just QA, Anne.
19:10:53 <wilcal> no pretest
19:11:16 <wilcal> lets get this thing going
19:11:25 <ennael> lewyssmith: I mean QA pretest team or all QA
19:11:32 <lewyssmith> tarazed: I see. That is the main iussue for the Classic.
19:11:37 <wilcal> Council only sees a few blockers
19:11:48 <wilcal> all qa
19:12:09 <lewyssmith> ennael: All QA, via qa-disucess, in the RC rsync directory.
19:12:17 <wilcal> yes
19:13:44 <wilcal> does anyone know if the pretest and regular qa directorys are on the same server?
19:13:57 <lewyssmith> What remains for the Lives? The ??? and little green windows? And oversize EFI boot menus?
19:14:18 <wilcal> that sounds like the last two blocker
19:14:20 <krisNL> on gbnome live: unusable Mageia Welcome
19:14:24 <krisNL> gnome
19:14:36 <lewyssmith> How unsusable? I can try it.
19:14:45 <krisNL> gnome wayland, that is
19:15:36 <krisNL> start gnome live, on the welcome click on the top right greyish button, then go back ...
19:15:46 <brian__> is gnome wayland default now?
19:15:48 <wilcal> so bottom line here is new isos delivered to all of qa in the next day or so
19:15:52 <lewyssmith> I think Gnome Wayland is what you get from the straight 'gnome' DM menu entry.
19:16:09 <lewyssmith> Because Gnome on X11 has its own line.
19:16:33 <brian__> but which one defaults?
19:16:36 <brian__> on install
19:16:44 <lewyssmith> krisNL: Are you talkin running Live, or after installation?
19:16:53 <krisNL> both
19:16:59 <lewyssmith> OK.
19:17:07 <krisNL> be sure you are on wayland
19:17:18 <lewyssmith> Must remeber.
19:17:31 <brian__> ok - default is?
19:17:41 <krisNL> default is wayland
19:17:45 <brian__> thx
19:18:04 <krisNL> martin set it as release blocker, can't find the bug number
19:18:39 <krisNL> i've found a nasty work around for it, but no real fix yet
19:21:17 <lewyssmith> ennael: Anne, when you announce the next Classic ISOs on qa-discuss, can you please cite the PAD URL also?
19:21:20 <brian__> being a pain her, but does it work well on x11?
19:21:30 <krisNL> its #20681
19:21:31 <brian__> her = here
19:21:51 <ennael> lewyssmith: yep sure
19:22:11 <lewyssmith> Talking of the PAD, can it be cleared out of previous versions when a new one is announced? It is tedious finding the right spot to comment.
19:22:43 <ennael> I do it each time
19:22:50 <wilcal> ya PAD should be cleared for thes new isos
19:22:50 <ennael> and move it to archive pad
19:23:03 <lewyssmith> Thanks.
19:23:58 <lewyssmith> M6 RC is looking generally fine, mostly just minor glitches.
19:24:12 <brian__> agreed
19:24:25 <wilcal> I'm think'n mid May to push it out the door
19:24:45 <brian__> crossing my fingers.  I want to build a new SSD with it as my primary machine
19:24:56 <lewyssmith> *If* the few blockers are resolved.
19:25:05 <brian__> true
19:25:17 <wilcal> Note: lots of discussion in the Council on when to EOL M5? Feel free to comment
19:25:36 <lewyssmith> Not less than 6 months after M6 is out.
19:25:47 <wilcal> Dec 17?
19:25:48 <brian__> last one - was it release +3 m
19:25:56 <brian__> or + 6m?
19:26:10 <wilcal> I suggested Sept 17 but that was opposed a lot
19:26:29 <wilcal> Gotta be no later then Dec this year
19:26:37 <lewyssmith> Sensible.
19:26:41 <brian__> yes it is
19:26:56 <brian__> I'll keep a physical drive or two for testing hten
19:27:00 <lewyssmith> Move on, Bill?
19:27:03 <wilcal> I don't think that decision will be made next week
19:27:10 <wilcal> lets move on
19:27:25 <wilcal> #topic Testing Updates & Backports
19:28:10 <wilcal> candidates have filled up validation list
19:28:23 <wilcal> with bugzilla back
19:28:37 <wilcal> Vbox is in there and I'll tackle that on Sat
19:28:54 <brian__> I was going to say - your favorite is there Bill
19:29:03 <lewyssmith> Yes, the list is agin big. We must get back the habit of doing it...
19:29:28 <wilcal> minicom is causing some stress because it requires a modem. Rememeber those things
19:30:11 <hviaene> I do, but I wish I wouldn't
19:30:21 <lewyssmith> I have one, but my line only works with its ISP box; no dial tone otherwise.
19:30:36 <DavidWHodgins> Back. :-)
19:30:37 <lewyssmith> Welcome back.
19:30:43 <wilcal> yippeeee
19:30:51 <tarazed> openjpeg is back
19:30:51 <rindolf> DavidWHodgins: welcome back
19:30:52 <wilcal> we're in updates and backports
19:31:00 <DavidWHodgins> 5 minute storm. Very intense lightning, but very quick moving through
19:31:53 <DavidWHodgins> I'm ready to test firefox under vb i586, so expect to be validating that one soon
19:31:55 <hviaene> Long 5 minutes here
19:32:32 <DavidWHodgins> Didn't lose power here, but internet connection was down for about 20 minutes
19:32:46 <wilcal> rain what's rain I forgot
19:32:59 <hviaene> That's what we saw
19:33:10 <DavidWHodgins> I thought california was experiencing flooding recently. Not in your area?
19:33:18 <lewyssmith> Len is sacrificing himself over the java xtream thing.
19:33:53 <DavidWHodgins> Yeah. Looking at bug 20704, looks ok. I'll validate it.
19:33:54 <[mbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20704 major, Normal, qa-bugs, NEW , xstream, jenkins-xstream new security issue (CVE-2017-1000355), xstream-1.4.9-1.mga6.src.rpm, jenkins-xstream-1.4.7-8.jenkins1.1.mga6.src.rpm
19:33:59 <hviaene> I hope to do a few tomorrow on i586
19:34:20 <wilcal> your thoughts on the minicom thing David?
19:34:55 <DavidWHodgins> I think with Deri's testing, we should go ahead and validate it. I'll do that after the meeting too
19:35:24 <wilcal> I don't have a platform here with an rs-232 io and a modem anymore
19:35:46 <DavidWHodgins> Same here. Can only test that it installs cleanly
19:35:53 <brian__> I'll finish libarchive 20723
19:36:02 <brian__> on 64bit and do bcpcpio
19:36:10 <brian__> bsdcpi
19:36:34 <DavidWHodgins> Thanks
19:36:37 <brian__> sorry all machines with modem and serial are dead for me
19:36:48 <wilcal> is Firefox ok to test now?
19:36:59 <DavidWHodgins> Yes
19:37:23 <tarazed> I'll do virtualbox
19:37:23 <lewyssmith> Hello Ben.
19:37:26 <wilcal> once used a machine with a 110 baud modem
19:37:27 <Benmc> QA: good morrow
19:37:35 <tarazed> Evening Ben
19:37:42 <DavidWHodgins> HiYa Benmc
19:37:42 <wilcal> remember the acustic coupler
19:37:51 <lewyssmith> Benmc: Not 'Good yesterday'?
19:37:58 <DavidWHodgins> wilcal: Same here, back in the early 1980s
19:38:22 <DavidWHodgins> Actually, 1979 iirc
19:38:36 <brian__> 300 baud was my start
19:38:37 <wilcal> tty plus an accoustic couple in school, 65/66/67/68
19:38:50 <DavidWHodgins> :-)
19:39:11 <DavidWHodgins> I'll go through and get the rest of the advisories added to svn after the meeting too
19:39:18 <lewyssmith> SquirrelMail looks new to me.
19:39:26 <Benmc> (Lewis, good point)
19:39:37 <wilcal> so with things back in gear we're seeing bugs to test and validate
19:39:49 <DavidWHodgins> We've had it before. Been a long time though. I'll have to look through the old reports to refresh my memory
19:39:52 <hviaene> Indeed, no previous update foudn in bugzillz
19:40:12 <lewyssmith> Bad news.
19:40:13 <wilcal> and we get new isos maybe by this weekend so a busy weekend indeed
19:40:24 <DavidWHodgins> Ah. You're right. I thought it had been
19:40:33 <DavidWHodgins> Yes
19:41:05 <DavidWHodgins> I must be mixing it up with one of the other web based mail programs
19:41:17 <lewyssmith> I have not seen libsamplerate before either.
19:42:38 <tarazed> Looks like they are here already wilcal.
19:43:24 <lewyssmith> If that is so, it has only just happened. Checking now.
19:43:52 <DavidWHodgins> Don't have a digital audio tape recorder/player any more, but looks like libsamplerate should be fairly easy to test
19:44:09 <DavidWHodgins> Just test some audio file conversions
19:44:11 <wilcal> so i'll rsync this evening
19:44:26 <lewyssmith> Just the Classic has been updated.
19:44:40 <tarazed> All leave cancelled
19:45:00 <lewyssmith> The Lives await.
19:45:06 <wilcal> martins live media should be there in the next 24-hours
19:45:49 <hviaene> tarazed: I didn't serve in the Army
19:46:16 <DavidWHodgins> Other way around. Just before the power went out I finished syncing the live iso image changes. No updates for the classical iso imaages yet
19:46:45 <lewyssmith> Dave: Lives are from 3 April, Classic brand new.
19:47:17 <tarazed> 2017/04/27 20:23:40
19:47:21 <DavidWHodgins> My livedvd-gnome-x86_64-dev data.txt has todays date
19:47:30 <DavidWHodgins> s /data/date/
19:47:43 <lewyssmith> I see 21.23
19:48:43 <DavidWHodgins> Checking
19:49:25 <lewyssmith> 30 2017/04/03 22:01 DATE.txt
19:49:25 <lewyssmith> 2148532224 2017/04/03 22:01 Mageia-6-rc-LiveDVD-GNOME-x86_64-DVD.iso
19:49:58 <tarazed> lewis: Often there is a difference - usually CET published
19:50:45 <lewyssmith> CET is what I see. No matter - back to updates?
19:50:49 <DavidWHodgins> 2154823680 Apr 27 14:01 Mageia-6-rc-LiveDVD-GNOME-x86_64-DVD.iso
19:50:51 <tarazed> Live GNOME = 30 2017/04/03 21:01:49
19:51:10 <wilcal> those are the "old" ones i think
19:51:18 <krisNL> is david on pre-test?
19:51:19 <lewyssmith> DavidWHodgins: Looks like yo have a problem.
19:51:44 <tarazed> Yes, they seem to be in pretest.
19:51:57 <lewyssmith> I thought that had been cleared out.
19:51:58 <krisNL> arrrgh
19:52:19 <tarazed> It had been.  Some misunderstanding here.
19:52:19 <wilcal> patience is next to Godleeness
19:52:51 <wilcal> good things come in time :-))
19:53:05 <lewyssmith> Aside: pre-testing has once more old Live ISOs. Mistake.
19:53:52 <tarazed> Are they the old ones?
19:53:59 <wilcal> yes
19:53:59 <DavidWHodgins> They have todays date
19:54:14 <wilcal> new ones should have todays date
19:54:25 <wilcal> and not in pretest
19:54:26 <Benmc> Moving right along.....
19:54:42 <DavidWHodgins> Ah. My script is still set for pretesting
19:55:18 <DavidWHodgins> Yep.
19:55:22 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Anything else?
19:55:42 <wilcal> I really don't have anything eles
19:55:49 <krisNL> not here
19:55:51 <DavidWHodgins> Me neither
19:55:54 <lewyssmith> You can rsync the Classic ISOs.
19:55:56 <wilcal> anticipating the new isos and a long day with Vbox on Sat
19:56:01 <DavidWHodgins> :-)
19:56:06 <tarazed> Nope
19:56:09 <DavidWHodgins> Countdown time then ...
19:56:11 <DavidWHodgins> t - 5
19:56:14 <DavidWHodgins> 4
19:56:15 <wilcal> bye all
19:56:17 <DavidWHodgins> 3
19:56:19 <lewyssmith> Nothing more here.
19:56:20 <DavidWHodgins> 2
19:56:22 <krisNL> bye
19:56:22 <DavidWHodgins> 1
19:56:27 <lewyssmith> Goodbye everyone.
19:56:30 <DavidWHodgins> Thanks for coming everyone!
19:56:32 <tarazed> Bye
19:56:36 <DavidWHodgins> #endmeeting