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19:00:49 <DavidWHodgins> #chair lewyssmith wilcal
19:00:49 <Inigo_Montoya`> Current chairs: DavidWHodgins lewyssmith wilcal
19:00:56 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Who's new? - If you are then come and say hello.
19:01:16 <DavidWHodgins> Anyone here who hasn't been to a qa team irc meeting before?
19:01:40 <DavidWHodgins> Doesn't look like it.
19:01:45 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Mageia 6 - Testing M6
19:02:23 <DavidWHodgins> We are getting pretty close to having m6 ready for release. How is everyone's testing going?
19:02:26 <wilcal> For all: Laptop running on a DVD based M6 LiveDVD Xfce no HD 32-bit
19:02:34 <wilcal> i'm on this laptop
19:02:41 <lewyssmith> We seem to have reached trivial issues, but they merit new ISOs - at least for the Lives.
19:02:59 <DavidWHodgins> Agreed
19:03:05 <lewyssmith> Evening Len.
19:03:19 <wilcal> we've really got to kick this thing out the door
19:03:24 <tjandrews> Last I knew, the upgrade path is still a problem.
19:03:34 <lewyssmith> What exactly?
19:03:37 <DavidWHodgins> That's the glibc bug?
19:03:42 <lewyssmith> Still?
19:03:44 <tjandrews> Yeah.
19:03:45 <DavidWHodgins> The dependency loop
19:04:16 <tarazed> Morning all, evening Lewis
19:04:24 <tjandrews> And Martin is working on new Lives with revamped menus.
19:04:40 <lewyssmith> Upgrades certainly need sorting.
19:04:47 <DavidWHodgins> Anyone remember the bug number for the glibc problem on upgrades?
19:04:57 <tarazed> 20111
19:05:01 <lewyssmith> !
19:05:30 <DavidWHodgins> Thanks. bug 20111
19:05:31 <[mbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20111 normal, release_blocker, basesystem, NEW , partway through upgrade from Mga5 to Mga6 "Error: 'script' failed for glibc-6:2.22-21.mga6.i586....", ncurses, glibc
19:06:04 <lewyssmith> I have just minor application/menu complaints, bugged & PADed.
19:06:14 <rindolf> I recently updated an mga5 partition to mga6 on this desktop machine - went pretty well all considering
19:06:21 <tjandrews> I believe Martin thinks he may have that one tracked down, too - but I haven't heard of a fix yet.
19:06:37 <lewyssmith> Evening Chris.
19:06:41 <DavidWHodgins> Just added a comment asking about progress
19:06:50 <krisNL> good evening
19:07:14 <tjandrews> Something to do with the order in which certain packages are installed during the upgrade.
19:07:28 <tarazed> I had serious problems with the Mate panel except fpr virgin users.
19:07:47 <lewyssmith> After upgrade?
19:08:06 <rindolf> krisNL: evening
19:08:16 <tarazed> These were mainly installs.  Can't remember if any were upgrades.
19:08:38 <lewyssmith> Have you bugged them?
19:08:57 <tarazed> Absolutely no problems for first time use.
19:09:04 <wilcal> note: just before this meeting I successfully executed a netinstall of M6 64-bit nvidia Plasma to real hardware
19:09:07 <tarazed> yes.
19:09:38 <lewyssmith> wilcal: Bill, take over until Dave comes back?
19:09:52 <wilcal> so hopefully he'll be back shortly
19:10:15 <wilcal> note I am on a little bit of a shakey test platform
19:10:30 <wilcal> so Martin is cooking some new iso's?
19:10:40 <tarazed> tj: the devs seem to understand what is going on.  New isos will be required I think.
19:11:07 <wilcal> anyone seen any show stoppers?
19:11:16 <lewyssmith> Not here.
19:11:31 <tarazed> Hard to say really.
19:11:33 <tjandrews> Yes. He wants to make starting with the nvidia driver easier for users who don't want to edit kernel options.
19:11:39 <wilcal> Something that can't be fixed after release
19:12:12 <lewyssmith> TJ's comment stands for this.
19:12:45 <wilcal> I've seen a wrinkle (freeze) in plasma but that may be me
19:12:56 <tjandrews> My comment was on Martina nd new isos.
19:13:17 <wilcal> so i think that's where we stand on M6 waiting for new iso's
19:13:43 <lewyssmith> Is the Classic basically OK?
19:14:14 <hviaene> for me OK
19:14:32 <wilcal> In Vbox I still get the little green boxes syndrome during the install
19:14:40 <lewyssmith> [Except the upgrade issiue].
19:14:44 <tarazed> Agreed for straight installs.
19:14:49 <hviaene> when doing fresh installs that is
19:15:06 <wilcal> yes
19:15:20 <wilcal> on real hw it's ok
19:15:29 <tarazed> wilcal: little green boxes?
19:15:48 <wilcal> hold a sec lemme get the bug #
19:15:59 <lewyssmith> Too much Trumpery?
19:16:27 <krisNL> tarazed: the screen kind of disappears into two small green screns where one can;t see anything
19:16:52 <tarazed> Right.  Need to look out for that.
19:17:05 <lewyssmith> Momentarily, or forever?
19:17:19 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20368
19:17:20 <[mbot> Bug 20368: normal, release_blocker, mageiatools, NEW , Net installation of Mageia 6 sta2 finished with a very small and double screen., x11-driver-video-fbdev, kernel
19:17:33 <krisNL> it stays so but the install continues until you have to type something
19:17:59 <krisNL> on small screens, ehre one can't see
19:18:21 <wilcal> It's too small unless you use a magnifying glass :-))
19:18:24 <lewyssmith> bri_an: Welcome, Brian.
19:18:35 <wilcal> I've only seen it in Vbox here
19:18:42 <krisNL> experienced netinstall user just know what to type, lol
19:19:21 <wilcal> probably should be fixed before release
19:19:33 <lewyssmith> Certainly.
19:19:52 <bri_an> HI All
19:20:10 <wilcal> hi bri
19:20:19 <krisNL> hi brian
19:20:25 <wilcal> so I think we await new isos
19:20:26 <rindolf> bri_an: hi
19:20:30 <wilcal> that's the status
19:20:35 <lewyssmith> Anything that queers the installation/upgrade *cannot* be rectified afterwards.
19:20:45 <tjandrews> I saw the little boxes in vbox installing from one of the isos, but not the latest ones.
19:20:46 <bri_an> any idea on when they come out
19:21:10 <wilcal> Being worked on as we "speak"
19:21:59 <lewyssmith> Move on, Bill?
19:22:23 <wilcal> Ha Ha!!! your back
19:22:45 <DavidWHodgins> Yep. Sorry, don't know what happened. My internet connection went down
19:22:56 <lewyssmith> DavidWHodgins: I think we have exhausted M6, Dave, & can move on.
19:22:56 <wilcal> #chair DavidWHodgins
19:22:56 <Inigo_Montoya`> Current chairs: DavidWHodgins lewyssmith wilcal
19:23:10 <wilcal> we await new isos, again
19:23:12 <tjandrews> Could it have something to do with the rainstorm?
19:23:38 <wilcal> rain?????? I forgot what that was
19:23:50 <DavidWHodgins> Had lightning in the area a couple of hours ago. Stopped raining here about half an hour ago
19:24:08 <DavidWHodgins> Might be related though
19:24:11 <DavidWHodgins> Anyway
19:24:13 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Testing updates - Bugzilla changes
19:24:32 <wilcal> Yes, bugzilla is somewhat different
19:24:37 <wilcal> and it's back
19:24:43 <DavidWHodgins> Bugzilla is back up, with a new version, with some new features
19:24:55 <wilcal> share with us the highlights
19:24:58 <DavidWHodgins> One of those features is the ability to add tags to comments
19:25:16 <DavidWHodgins> https://bugs.mageia.org/page.cgi?id=release-notes.html#feat_comment_tags
19:25:17 <[mbot> [ Bugzilla 5.0 Release Notes ]
19:25:24 <lewyssmith> What do they do?
19:26:11 <DavidWHodgins> While a tag can have any value, like the whiteboard entries can, the entries obsolete, spam, and off-topic will cause the comment to be collapsed when viewing the bug report
19:26:52 <DavidWHodgins> See https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13685 for an example with obsolete and off-topic comments marked
19:26:53 <[mbot> Bug 13685: normal, Normal, mageiatools, REOPENED , Fix for seeing \x00 (repeated several times) instead of Mac address of a hidden network, drakx-net
19:27:42 <DavidWHodgins> The release notes lists quite a few changes, but I think that's the only change that really matters for us
19:27:53 <lewyssmith> I notice a post 'preview' feature.
19:28:12 <DavidWHodgins> #info Bugzilla new feature https://bugs.mageia.org/page.cgi?id=release-notes.html#feat_comment_tags
19:28:13 <[mbot> [ Bugzilla 5.0 Release Notes ]
19:28:38 <DavidWHodgins> Yes, the preview can be useful when adding a comment with a table for example
19:28:57 <DavidWHodgins> In most cases the preview isn't much use, but when formatting matters, it is.
19:29:23 <tjandrews> Migght help catch some typos, too. ;)
19:29:32 <wilcal> We still can't edit a previously posted comment right?
19:29:43 <neoclust> wilcal: no
19:29:48 <lewyssmith> The main thing is that Bugzilla is back, & we can again do Updates!
19:29:48 <wilcal> rats
19:29:56 <DavidWHodgins> Correct, though you can submit a new one, then mark the old one as obsolete
19:29:57 <tjandrews> Now THAT'S a feature I could use.
19:30:33 <DavidWHodgins> Being able to edit a comment after it's submitted can be abused, so is not allowed
19:30:41 <tjandrews> Editing, I mean.
19:30:57 <tjandrews> Sigh.
19:31:09 <lewyssmith> -5 is similar.
19:31:28 <DavidWHodgins> As http://madb.mageia.org/tools/updates shows, there are currently no bugs awaiting testing, that don't require feeback
19:31:30 <[mbot> [ Mageia App Db - Current Update candidates ]
19:31:48 <lewyssmith> Do we know why?
19:31:54 <DavidWHodgins> There are some awaiting pushing though
19:32:23 <DavidWHodgins> The few that have been assigned to qa since bugzilla reopened have all been tested and validated
19:33:13 <tjandrews> Then we can sit back and put our feet up, right?
19:33:26 <DavidWHodgins> From comments in dev and bugs, there will soon be updates for kernel, nss/rootcerts, and firefox, so expect them within a day or so
19:33:29 <wilcal> hopefully new m6 isos will fill my weeked
19:33:50 <wilcal> heard of a critical kernel bug that has come up
19:34:19 <lewyssmith> DavidWHodgins: tarazed: Advisories server has changed its behaviour re password.
19:34:56 <DavidWHodgins> In what way? I haven't changed anything regarding svn on my system
19:34:57 <tarazed> Ah yes.  Advisories.
19:35:41 <lewyssmith> I should have said SVN. It used to just ask once with a pop-up dialogue; now that does not happen, & I saw 2  command line prompts.
19:36:22 <DavidWHodgins> Is ssh-agent running?
19:36:34 <lewyssmith> Nothinh chnaged at my end.
19:37:30 <DavidWHodgins> I'd try logging out and back in. I've seen the problem occur after using ssh to connect to the system with the advisories, and logging in/out with the same userid
19:38:31 <lewyssmith> A 'Wait & see' matter.
19:38:31 <DavidWHodgins> tarazed: Sorry, have to get back in touch with the sysadmins to sort out getting you access to svn
19:38:48 <DavidWHodgins> They've been rather busy lately. :-(
19:39:06 <tarazed> Yes, and I've been asleep.
19:39:20 <DavidWHodgins> The wiki is back, though the banner at the top doesn't show properly yet
19:40:04 <lewyssmith> Welcome Ben.
19:40:07 <tarazed> Hi Ben.
19:40:09 <DavidWHodgins> #info Very quiet for updates testing right now, though that will change soon with kernel, nss/rootcerts, and firefox updates
19:40:24 <Benmc> hiya all
19:40:28 <DavidWHodgins> Hi Benmc
19:40:40 <DavidWHodgins> That takes us to ...
19:40:43 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Anything else?
19:40:57 <DavidWHodgins> I have nothing else here
19:41:02 <bri_an> nothing
19:41:04 <hviaene> Not from my side
19:41:06 <lewyssmith> Not here.
19:41:09 <wilcal> not from me
19:41:11 <tarazed> OK here
19:41:16 <DavidWHodgins> Countdown time then
19:41:20 <DavidWHodgins> t - 5
19:41:20 <krisNL> 've made a xfce theme, appearance and window deco ...
19:41:27 <wilcal> Give a hand for this little old Dell Laptop running Xfce 32-bit LiveDVD no hd. Seems to have held its own
19:41:35 <DavidWHodgins> Yeah!
19:41:36 <DavidWHodgins> 4
19:41:37 <krisNL> http://mageia-xfce.blogspot.nl/
19:41:38 <[mbot> [ Mageia Linux Xfce ]
19:41:45 <lewyssmith> Goodbye everyone.
19:41:47 <wilcal> bye all
19:41:54 <tarazed> Good on you Kris
19:42:18 <tarazed> Ciao tutti
19:42:24 <DavidWHodgins> krisNL: Will that be added for Mageia 6, or just for your own use?
19:42:47 <DavidWHodgins> Looks pretty good though
19:42:49 <krisNL> it's too late for changes
19:43:08 <DavidWHodgins> Perhaps for Mageia 7 then, or added as an update after 6 is released.
19:43:22 <DavidWHodgins> Back to the countdown
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19:43:39 <DavidWHodgins> Thanks for coming everyone!
19:43:43 <DavidWHodgins> #endmeeting