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19:06:32 <MrsB> Welcome everybody to another one
19:06:39 <MrsB> where did that week go to?
19:06:48 <tarazed> Indeed.
19:06:52 <MrsB> #chair DavidWHodgins lewyssmith
19:06:52 <Inigo_Montoya> Current chairs: DavidWHodgins MrsB lewyssmith
19:06:54 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Who's new? If you are then come and say hello.
19:07:03 <MrsB> some say it's a sign of getting old :\
19:07:19 <MrsB> Is there anybody new toay?
19:07:47 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Mageia 6 - How's it looking?
19:08:01 <MrsB> morning tj
19:08:03 <tarazed> Evening tj
19:08:04 <DavidWHodgins> Haven't tried the latest iso images myself yet
19:08:09 <wilcal> lemme post something
19:08:10 <MrsB> nope nor here
19:08:13 <tjandrews> Morning, Claire.
19:08:15 <wilcal> Latest
19:08:17 <wilcal> M6 i586 Plasma and Gnome Live-DVD in Vbox both working fine
19:08:18 <wilcal> M6 x86_64 Plasma and Gnome Live-DVD both hang on boot
19:08:20 <wilcal> M6 i586 Plasma and Gnome CI install both working, and updating ok
19:08:21 <wilcal> M6 x86_64 Plasma and Gnome CI install both hang on reboot
19:08:23 <wilcal> M6 x86_64 Plasma boot.iso installs fine then hangs on reboot
19:08:24 <wilcal> All hangs are the same and are reported, with screenshots in:
19:08:26 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18934
19:08:27 <[mbot> Bug 18934: normal, Normal, tmb, NEW , Latest 64-bit Live-DVD's hang on boot
19:08:45 <wilcal> so the i586 isos look ok the x86_64 are DOA
19:08:50 <tarazed> On real hardware evrything is looking good so far.
19:08:55 <tarazed> Minor niggles.
19:08:57 <wilcal> that's as of this morning
19:09:21 <tarazed> Everything 64-bits that is.
19:09:28 <wilcal> yup
19:09:35 <MrsB> wilcal: how long are you leaving it?
19:09:39 <wilcal> i586 looks pretty good actually
19:09:59 <wilcal> the boot.iso install was this morning boot to a hang
19:10:15 <MrsB> how long do you wait i mean before calling it hung?
19:10:38 <MrsB> although boot.iso won't be mandriva-everytime
19:10:39 <wilcal> it gets the first screens that the text roll then the hang
19:10:51 <wilcal> look at the screen shots
19:10:53 <MrsB> ok, this is all in vbox?
19:11:00 <wilcal> no hardware too
19:11:07 <tjandrews> I synced the latest isos, but that's as far as I got. Too much sunny weather, too many weeds in the beans and tomatoes.
19:11:39 <lewyssmith> Sympathise.
19:12:00 <MrsB> sounds like we've not tested much between us yet. Well done Bill & Len
19:12:08 <wilcal> i've put quite some time in it to see if I was doing something wrong
19:12:32 <MrsB> are they all from usb or from cd etc?
19:12:49 <wilcal> I have a real hardware install of x86_64 Plasma and that is working nicely and updating
19:13:11 <wilcal> something is wrong with the x86_64 installer
19:13:27 <wilcal> or boot
19:13:52 <MrsB> Len 64bit was ok for you?
19:13:54 <wilcal> i think we have to wait for tmb to look at it all
19:14:34 <tarazed> Yes Caire, no real problems.  None with the installer and booting to an nvidia desktop is flawless.
19:14:43 <tarazed> Claire
19:15:15 <MrsB> could you comment on bill's bug please
19:15:17 <tarazed> Have tried three different machines.
19:15:25 <wilcal> all my hardware installs have been on a nvidia platform
19:15:34 <lewyssmith> -5: That looks a major advance.
19:15:36 <rindolf> Plasma 5 often makes the display unupdatable here (Core i3 i965)
19:16:19 <tarazed> Yes - will pay more attention to other people's problems.
19:16:20 <MrsB> were all your installs from a USB or from a DVD wilcal, all uefi or all non uefi?
19:16:33 <wilcal> no uefi
19:16:52 <wilcal> the hardare install was from usb stick
19:17:12 <tarazed> Mine were mixed.
19:17:23 <MrsB> is your uefi len?
19:17:25 <tarazed> CSM and UEFI
19:17:49 <tarazed> Most of my machines are UEFI
19:17:55 <lewyssmith> Sorry to interrupt: are we already on RC?
19:18:01 <tarazed> yes
19:18:13 <MrsB> could you guys both add some system details to the bug report please and ok/nok on those systems
19:18:23 <wilcal> will do
19:18:30 <tarazed> Sure thing.
19:18:34 <MrsB> tah muchly
19:19:01 <MrsB> The plan is to develop these until they're fit to go as a release candidate now lewis
19:19:12 <lewyssmith> OK
19:19:40 <MrsB> Anybody tested upgrades this week?
19:20:02 <tarazed> On a couple of my machines there was an oddity with mcc, running out of screen real estate.
19:20:13 <wilcal> I'm not comfortable with getting it to install rather then upgrade testing sorry
19:20:53 <tarazed> I'll try an upgrade or two.
19:20:55 <MrsB> #info Issues with 64bit various isos (wilcal)
19:21:12 <wilcal> again the i586 looks reallly really good
19:21:24 <lewyssmith> All 3?
19:21:38 <MrsB> they can be doen in vbox initially to find any duff packaging. take a snapshot before starting and roll it back to try with different packages.
19:21:52 <wilcal> everything i look at i586 lloks good except for the Plasma problems
19:22:21 <wilcal> the placing and sizing of Plasma icons is a upstream disaster
19:22:25 <MrsB> 2/3 i think
19:22:51 <MrsB> there is plasma 5.7.1 now so there may be fresh isos soonish
19:23:15 <wilcal> I have a general question concerning release date and Plasma version
19:23:51 <wilcal> are we not headed for an extended version of Plasma live ver 5.8 in like Oct?
19:24:04 <wilcal> like ver 5.8
19:24:08 <MrsB> Yes, it'll likely come as an update after release
19:24:24 <DavidWHodgins> We won't hold up the release of 5 until then
19:24:25 <wilcal> very shortly after release
19:24:48 <MrsB> neoclust raised this on dev ML a few days ago
19:24:57 <wilcal> should we wait?
19:25:03 <MrsB> not til october :\
19:25:20 <MrsB> that's 3 months
19:25:21 <DavidWHodgins> If there are enough changes, and it seems worth while, we can release a 6.1 after that. That will be a council decision
19:25:35 <Bequimao> does that mean a new set of isos in October?
19:25:40 <wilcal> anyway i table this as something to think about
19:25:47 <MrsB> might not be a bad idea
19:26:00 <MrsB> just a suggestion at the moment Bequimao
19:26:20 <wilcal> i will bring it up at the next Council meeting
19:26:27 <wilcal> I suggest we wait
19:26:34 <wilcal> plasma is rough enough as it is
19:26:49 <MrsB> we can't just sit on things for 3 months
19:26:59 <lewyssmith> How have other distributions tamed it?
19:27:03 <MrsB> everything else gets stale and packagers get bored
19:27:22 <wilcal> there are things in plasma that are just not acceptable and imo will give M6 a bad name
19:27:29 <DavidWHodgins> I'd wait till we have 5.8 in testing for 6, to see if it's worth doing a 6.1 release
19:27:42 <wilcal> good thought David
19:28:06 <lewyssmith> wilcal: Bill: only if you use it (Plasma).
19:28:19 <DavidWHodgins> It's a major effort to put out a .1 release, so it will really have to be well justified
19:28:38 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18764
19:28:40 <[mbot> Bug 18764: normal, Normal, mageia, NEW , Plasma desktop icons and placement are very difficult to deal with, plasma-desktop?
19:28:56 <wilcal> is ugly and I think is an upstream problem
19:29:01 <tjandrews> (Chuckle) It wasn't all that long ago that we were talking about a possible 5.1 release.
19:29:14 <DavidWHodgins> But may or may not change in plasma 5.8
19:29:26 <wilcal> anyway I've put some considerable time into M6 here this week
19:29:58 <wilcal> except for the autolog in and the desktop icon thingy it ain't all that bad. Gnome is very nice
19:30:06 <MrsB> great, well done
19:30:39 <MrsB> Some links while we're here
19:30:59 <MrsB> https://pad.riseup.net/p/mageia6-rc - RC pad
19:31:00 <[mbot> [ Riseup Pad ]
19:31:22 <MrsB> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15527 - MGA6 Tracker
19:31:23 <[mbot> Bug 15527: normal, release_blocker, bugsquad, NEW , [Tracker] Mageia 6 release critical
19:31:35 <MrsB> any others?
19:32:18 <MrsB> #info Please remember to add 6RC keyword to any RC related bug reports
19:32:29 <DavidWHodgins> Note if you click on the tree link, it shows the descriptions of the blocker bugs
19:32:51 <tjandrews> Break time is over, duty calls. Time for me to leave again.
19:32:55 <wilcal> Argh I've been using  https://pad.riseup.net/p/mageia6-RC
19:32:56 <[mbot> [ Riseup Pad ]
19:33:00 <DavidWHodgins> tjandrews: Take care
19:33:04 <MrsB> Thanks for coming tj
19:33:10 <rindolf> tjandrews: bye
19:33:18 <lewyssmith> Hello Ben.
19:33:21 <MrsB> one in one out :) Morning Ben
19:33:22 <Benmc> QA- good mornong
19:33:39 <DavidWHodgins> Hi Ben
19:33:43 <tjandrews> I'll leave some of the first zucchini of the season on the table by the back door.
19:33:51 <Benmc> Lewis, David. Hi
19:33:51 <DavidWHodgins> lol
19:34:16 <Benmc> Mrs B - good morning
19:34:28 <DavidWHodgins> Shall we move on?
19:34:32 <MrsB> Hows the RC for you Ben?
19:34:34 <lewyssmith> Yes please.
19:34:58 <Benmc> Upgrade from M5 to 6 fails with several packages
19:35:11 <MrsB> bugged it?
19:35:39 <Benmc> Problems with live gnome i586 failing at bootloader if using " use existing partitions"
19:36:18 <Benmc> Mrs e - yes for  sta1, but upgrade is still in progress....
19:37:03 <Benmc> shadow.lock still, but I see its been put off til m7
19:37:25 <MrsB> yes, there is actually progress on that though
19:37:35 <MrsB> philippem and tv working on
19:37:37 <MrsB> it
19:37:46 <Benmc> not much more to report, been sorta busy with preparations for life changes
19:37:53 <MrsB> ahhh!
19:37:55 <DavidWHodgins> Likely new iso images soon if only for that fix
19:38:19 <MrsB> Thanks everybody
19:38:27 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Testing updates - Any difficulties, problems, issues?
19:38:33 <MrsB> dude :)
19:38:48 <MrsB> http://madb.mageia.org/tools/updates
19:38:50 <[mbot> [ Mageia App Db - Current Update candidates ]
19:38:55 <MrsB> We're not doing badly
19:39:19 <MrsB> Len care to look at imagemagick, with those same tests
19:39:28 <MrsB> morning tmb
19:39:35 <tarazed> No problem.
19:39:39 <tmb> morning, and sorry for being late...
19:39:44 <lewyssmith> There are 2 VNC/Mac ones...
19:39:50 <MrsB> we can figive you this once ;)
19:39:54 <tarazed> Except finding time of course.
19:39:55 <MrsB> forgive*
19:40:03 <MrsB> thanks
19:40:05 <lewyssmith> bug 18766
19:40:07 <[mbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18766 normal, Normal, qa-bugs, NEW , vnc plugin ignores keymap setting due to a simple typo in the source (needed when connecting to Mac, to have option key), remmina-1.0.0-14.mga5.src.rpm
19:40:17 <lewyssmith> bug 18895
19:40:18 <[mbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18895 normal, Normal, qa-bugs, NEW , libvncserver without gcrypt support, required e.g. to connect to apple vnc (used by remmina), libvncserver-0.9.10-1.mga5.src.rpm
19:40:23 <tarazed> morning tmb and thanks for the isos
19:40:28 <Luigi12_work> might be able to find more imagemagick PoCs from the SuSE bug(s) for http://lwn.net/Vulnerabilities/693727/
19:40:29 <[mbot> [ imagemagick: many vulnerabilities [LWN.net] ]
19:40:44 <Luigi12_work> lewyssmith: the original reporter just needs to confirm the fixes for those two you pasted and we can ship them
19:40:49 <MrsB> we'll have to get reporter to test that one lewis
19:40:52 <MrsB> yep
19:41:34 <MrsB> There is a new Virtualbox aswell, to sync with cauldron. Please use it whilst testing ISOs
19:41:44 <Luigi12_work> for imagemagick http://lwn.net/Alerts/693718/ is the openSUSE advisory
19:41:45 <[mbot> [ openSUSE alert openSUSE-SU-2016:1748-1 (ImageMagick) [LWN.net] ]
19:42:10 <MrsB> crumbs that's almost as bad as flash
19:42:49 <wilcal> how horrible situation with flash 52-updates in latest uptick
19:43:00 <DavidWHodgins> Only because it seems to have gotten a lot of scrutiny recently
19:43:08 <MrsB> Any issues/problems/difficulties with any of those updates?
19:43:24 <DavidWHodgins> Just getting around to them. :-)
19:43:50 <DavidWHodgins> I'll validate virtualbox tomorrow, if no one reports any problems before then
19:44:23 <wilcal> that's been hang'n around for some time
19:44:33 <MrsB> so let's move on then and loose our Luigi
19:44:46 <Luigi12_work> yeah I'll test 32-bit host for vbox tonight, don't expect any issues
19:44:55 <MrsB> it's a brand new vbox wilcal
19:45:02 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Luigi's roundup - Coming security updates & news
19:45:06 <Luigi12_work> w00t
19:45:13 <MrsB> go go go!
19:45:14 <Luigi12_work> got a few updates in the works
19:45:19 <MrsB> boooo
19:45:35 <Luigi12_work> perl and perl-XSLoader minor issue, patches committed to SVN.  Will push to build system when I feel like it.
19:45:45 <Luigi12_work> libgd, two CVEs patched in SVN, waiting for a fix and CVE for a third issue.
19:46:02 <Luigi12_work> harfbuzz two issues there, I have patches locally, not committed to SVN yet since I'm waiting for a CVE
19:46:07 <Luigi12_work> that's all
19:46:13 <MrsB> #info Updates coming for perl, perl-XSLoader, libgd, harfbuzz
19:46:18 <MrsB> that was painless again
19:46:28 <Luigi12_work> sounds like libtiff upstream is starting to fix some issues, so hopefully we'll have an update from them at some point
19:46:29 <MrsB> we must be due a storm
19:46:32 <tmb> and new kernels probably some time next week :)
19:46:39 <Luigi12_work> good, I wanted to ask about kernels
19:46:45 <MrsB> #info new kernels coming probably next week
19:46:48 <DavidWHodgins> Thanks Luigi12_work and tmb
19:46:48 <Luigi12_work> hopefully they'll fix the vga issue in VMWare
19:46:57 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Anything else?
19:46:59 <Luigi12_work> I really need that fix before I hand this stuff of to the next company
19:47:07 <MrsB> Is there anything else?
19:47:28 <lewyssmith> Not here.
19:47:46 <wilcal> not from me
19:47:56 <DavidWHodgins> tmb Will new iso images be built to include the shadow.lock fix?
19:47:56 <Benmc> nor I
19:48:06 <MrsB> and new plasma
19:48:28 <MrsB> and Bill's bug
19:48:30 <tmb> yes, but I need to figure out kernel breakage in vbox first...
19:48:58 <MrsB> Thanks for coming then everybody
19:49:04 <wilcal> bye all
19:49:04 <MrsB> T - 5
19:49:10 <MrsB> keep on testing :)
19:49:13 <MrsB> 4
19:49:15 <lewyssmith> Goodbye everyone.
19:49:15 <MrsB> 3
19:49:17 <MrsB> 2
19:49:18 <MrsB> 1
19:49:21 <MrsB> #endmeeting