20:04:22 <MrsB> #startmeeting
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20:04:32 <MrsB> #chair lewyssmith wilcal DavidWHodgins
20:04:32 <Inigo_Montoya> Current chairs: DavidWHodgins MrsB lewyssmith wilcal
20:04:35 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Who's new? - If you are, then come and say Hi..
20:04:47 <MrsB> Hi everyone, welcome to another one
20:05:03 <MrsB> Is there anyody new here today?
20:05:19 <MrsB> or anybody
20:05:31 <DavidWHodgins> :-)
20:05:44 <DavidWHodgins> Doesn't look like it
20:05:50 <MrsB> doesn't look like it, hit it Dave
20:05:51 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Testing updates - Any issues, problems or difficulties?
20:05:55 <MrsB> thanks!
20:06:15 <MrsB> It's been a busy week all round and the list is just as long as when we started :\
20:06:35 <wilcal> I got through the hardware testing of
20:06:37 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17067
20:06:38 <[mbot> Bug 17067: normal, Normal, qa-bugs, NEW , Update request: kernel-4.1.12-1.mga5, kernel
20:06:39 <MrsB> alot are ready for validating though
20:06:46 <wilcal> this morning and it looks good
20:06:48 <MrsB> http://madb.mageia.org/tools/updates
20:06:50 <[mbot> [ Mageia App Db - Current Update candidates ]
20:07:07 <MrsB> Are there any there that look scary?
20:07:09 <DavidWHodgins> xen has gone from crashing the guest to crashing the host. :-(
20:07:23 <MrsB> oh nice. not played with xen yet
20:07:33 <wilcal> Your in charge of xen David
20:08:02 <tmb> I pushed xen-4.5.2 for now, but there will be another cve fix going public beginning of next week
20:08:21 <MrsB> if it's crashing then we can afford to hang on
20:08:36 <MrsB> any fixes on the way for that tmb?
20:09:27 <tmb> MrsB, tbh, I havent had time to verify that yet...
20:09:43 <lewyssmith> Bug 16795, torrent: I cannot make deluge work to test this. Can someone say how to get a working torrent URL?
20:09:44 <MrsB> that's ok, we're all a bit that way atm
20:09:44 <[mbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16795 normal, Normal, qa-bugs, NEW , libtorrent-rasterbar new security issue CVE-2015-5685, libtorrent-rasterbar-0.16.18-1.mga5.src.rpm
20:10:08 <MrsB> you can use a mageia torrent lewis
20:10:30 <hviaene> I did hit the same problem
20:10:37 <lewyssmith> But how direftly from deluge?
20:11:04 <lewyssmith> hviaene: I saw that Herman.
20:11:14 <MrsB> if it needs to fetch the url itself, just give it the torrent url on a mirror
20:11:46 <MrsB> as long as deluge etc are working ok though let's get it shifted on
20:11:46 <lewyssmith> I just want to give it a URL to get started onN.
20:11:49 <hviaene> I tried that, deluge did not accept it
20:12:19 <MrsB> http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/iso/5/torrents/Mageia-5-i586-DVD.torrent
20:13:22 <MrsB> any others causing problems?
20:13:42 <wilcal> the sddm thingy is gone right?
20:14:13 <MrsB> it can be yes as soon as the advisory is added
20:14:25 <MrsB> it's just a dm like kdm, gdm
20:14:29 <DavidWHodgins> The advisory is there. Just needs to be validated.
20:14:30 <MrsB> lightdm etc
20:14:32 <wilcal> That was confusing to me
20:14:53 <MrsB> i saw you had trouble getting your head around it
20:15:05 <lewyssmith> MrsB: Thanks for that. It is going at last. Do I need to leave the *incoming* torrent port open in the firewall?
20:15:09 <MrsB> probably over thinkign it
20:15:47 <MrsB> they can usually use upnp to do it themselves lewis but you can specify a port probably and forward it
20:16:32 <lewyssmith> I don't like having anything open on the firewall, but opened this one in case it matteres.
20:16:39 <DavidWHodgins> I always disable upnp on my router, as it's a security nightmare.
20:17:07 <MrsB> as long as it is working ok you can add the OK. You could check with strace too if you like.
20:17:29 <MrsB> theres an easier one to use than strace but i can't remember it off the top of my head
20:17:55 <DavidWHodgins> lewyssmith: The strace check is just to ensure it's actually opening the lib being updated.
20:17:57 <MrsB> think theres something on the Tips page about it
20:18:23 <DavidWHodgins> lsof -n|grep torrent
20:18:27 <MrsB> lsof yeah
20:18:28 <MrsB> https://wiki.mageia.org/en/QA_Tips_and_Tricks#Libraries_used
20:18:29 <DavidWHodgins> Should show if it's open
20:18:58 <DavidWHodgins> Though strace is better, as it may open/read/close the lib right at the start.
20:19:12 <MrsB> yeah, more thorough
20:19:14 <lewyssmith> I am happy that it is going (before update). I can now test it.
20:19:27 <MrsB> I thought I'd put something on the tips page about that, guess not
20:20:20 <MrsB> That's one down then :)
20:20:22 <MrsB> any others?
20:20:55 <DavidWHodgins> The kernel updates must be tested on i586, x86_64, and in virtualbox
20:20:59 <MrsB> roundcubemail is still borked i think, with installer removed. If so we'll just OK it if it updates cleanly
20:21:14 <hviaene> bugzilla
20:21:29 <MrsB> yes, it has feedback marker set. neoclust is workign on it
20:21:46 <hviaene> I cann't get it why it works OK with postgres, but fails on me with mariadb
20:22:16 <hviaene> feedback marker set, meaning??
20:22:52 <MrsB> On the madb page it's shown with a grey background. It has 'feedback' added to the whiteboard of the bug
20:22:57 <DavidWHodgins> hviaene: We add feedback to the whiteboard for a bug where a problem has been found, and a response from the packager is needed.
20:23:10 <MrsB> we add that when we encounter problems and need feedback fromt he packager
20:23:13 <hviaene> OK tx
20:23:34 <MrsB> see the top 3 and cakephp on madb
20:23:44 <MrsB> and mageia-release
20:23:51 <MrsB> any thoughts on that one tmb?
20:24:02 <MrsB> bug 17019
20:24:03 <[mbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17019 normal, Normal, qa-bugs, NEW , Request testing of update to mageia-release, mageia-release-5-2.1.mga5.src.rpm
20:24:42 * tmb looks at it...
20:25:24 <MrsB> he did send email to dev ML but nobody gave any opinion there
20:25:53 <MrsB> morning Ages
20:26:08 <tmb> yeah, well I have over 2000 mails currenlty queued :)
20:26:18 <DavidWHodgins> :-)
20:26:34 <Ages> MrsB: good morning, how are you?
20:26:42 <MrsB> re-morning lewis
20:26:49 <MrsB> good thanks
20:26:55 <lewyssmith> Cut myself off.
20:26:58 <MrsB> oopsie
20:27:07 <DavidWHodgins> That must have hurt. :-)
20:27:25 <MrsB> Are there any others causing problems?
20:27:50 <MrsB> I use owncloud, I'll check that one tmrw
20:27:56 <Ages> MrsB: I'll be around for a little, but have a meeting here in an hour which I'll have to leave early for
20:28:08 <MrsB> oh we'll be done way before then
20:28:39 <MrsB> Lots of advisories to do
20:28:54 <MrsB> morning tjandrews
20:29:01 <lewyssmith> Hello TJ.
20:29:06 <DavidWHodgins> I just got up about an hour ago. I'll work on the advisories after the meeting.
20:29:16 <MrsB> thanks Dave. Validate whatever can be
20:29:31 <tjandrews> Sorry I'm late, and I can't stay long. Lots of exceptional Indian Summer weather today.
20:29:32 <MrsB> we'll stick with one arch for validation for the foreseeable
20:30:11 <tjandrews> But, I brought some virtual pumpkin pie for afterward. ;)
20:30:21 <MrsB> Ohh nice, we need the recipe
20:30:40 <hviaene> My wife makes nice soup
20:30:51 <treegazer> ditto
20:30:56 <MrsB> soup and pie for tonights treat then
20:30:58 <tjandrews> My mother's. Got a good one for pumpkin bread, too.
20:31:16 <MrsB> Let's movve on
20:31:18 <MrsB> -v
20:31:22 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Luigi's roundup - Expected security updates from Luigi12
20:31:29 <MrsB> thanks dave dude
20:31:40 <MrsB> Luigi12_work: ping-a-ling
20:31:51 <Luigi12_work> pong-a-gong
20:31:57 <MrsB> :D
20:32:43 <Luigi12_work> cool, looks like not a lot pending
20:32:51 <MrsB> phew!
20:32:58 <DavidWHodgins> Nice!
20:33:02 * MrsB has info at the ready
20:33:04 <Luigi12_work> still waiting on some that I've mentioned previously
20:33:23 <Luigi12_work> mariadb 10.0.22 is a needed update, hopefully that'll come soon
20:33:43 <MrsB> is that upstream delay?
20:33:43 <Luigi12_work> apache-mod_nss is assigned to spuhler, so he's got a few updates he's been working on as you've seen
20:33:54 <Luigi12_work> no, packager delay.  Our maintainer isn't very responsive.
20:33:59 <Luigi12_work> I might have to do that one again.
20:34:18 <MrsB> #info mariadb sec update still waiting on packager
20:34:31 <Luigi12_work> python-curl is a *maybe* right now.  There's a use-after-free but MITRE isn't sure yet if it's a real security issue.
20:34:44 <Luigi12_work> perl-HTML-Scrubber needs to be updated
20:34:58 <Luigi12_work> that's it
20:35:24 <MrsB> #info updates coming for python-curl & perl-HTML-Scrubber and that's about it (so far!)
20:35:33 <MrsB> that's unusually short
20:35:57 <DavidWHodgins> Thanks Luigi12_work!
20:36:02 <MrsB> did the sec world take a holiday?
20:36:30 <Luigi12_work> well we've had a few assigned to QA this week, the packagers have actually packaged them fairly quickly
20:36:34 <wilcal> that was quick
20:36:38 <treegazer> calm b4 the storm? :-)
20:36:40 <DavidWHodgins> Or they're going to slam us next week. :-)
20:36:50 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Anything else?
20:36:54 <tjandrews> Somebody on Usenet got caught by the Intel graphics bug in kernel 4.1.8.
20:36:56 <MrsB> that's usually how it works isn't it
20:37:03 <MrsB> Thanks Luigi12_work
20:37:06 <lewyssmith> We have too much to clear as it is. Let sleeping dogs...
20:37:11 <MrsB> Is there anything else?
20:37:28 <tjandrews> The changein xorg.conf fixed it for him.
20:37:47 <hviaene> Yes, has anyone problems with KDE autostarting applications
20:37:51 <hviaene> ???
20:37:56 <MrsB> ohh the sna thing tj
20:38:02 <tjandrews> Yes.
20:38:29 <MrsB> in what way herman?
20:38:39 <tjandrews> I haven't had any, Herman.
20:39:01 <DavidWHodgins> No problems with kde autostart here either.
20:39:07 <MrsB> you sometimes find it works better when set to start a new session each time instead of resuming the last one
20:39:13 <hviaene> I have a KDE bug 347206, but the proposed solution gives drakconf headaches
20:39:13 <[mbot> Bug https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=347206 normal, NOR, unassigned-bugs, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Autostart does not completely run all items defined in System-settings
20:39:57 <MrsB> look in kde system settings, startup & shut down
20:40:08 <MrsB> the session management
20:40:09 <hviaene> That's what I use
20:40:23 <MrsB> set it to end the current session on shutdown and start with an empty session
20:41:00 <MrsB> in that case no, not noticed anything odd
20:41:53 <hviaene> I changed the startup, let's see what it does
20:42:04 <MrsB> try adding a couple of secconds sleep in there
20:42:08 <MrsB> -c
20:42:48 <MrsB> Is there anything else else?
20:42:59 <wilcal> not from me
20:43:06 <lewyssmith> Nor here.
20:43:12 <MrsB> It's bonfire night here tonight - aka guy fwakes night or fireworks night
20:43:21 <MrsB> guy fawkes
20:43:34 <hviaene> wearing the mask???
20:43:39 <wilcal> Burn down that Parlement
20:43:44 <MrsB> the man who tried to blow up parliament
20:43:46 <lewyssmith> Have you ever seen the sussex bonfire societies? They are *creepy*.
20:43:57 <DavidWHodgins> Nothing else here.
20:44:03 <MrsB> yes what V for vendetta loosely follows
20:44:08 <MrsB> with the mask
20:44:08 <lewyssmith> Burn effigies of the pope.
20:44:09 <treegazer> rains washing it out tonight, tomorrow may be drier
20:44:10 <wilcal> Ever hear of Burning Man here in the States
20:44:22 <MrsB> burn a scarecrow on the bonfire
20:44:27 <MrsB> heard of it yeah
20:44:28 <tjandrews> We had local elections on Tuesday. Much calmer method of government.
20:44:30 <DavidWHodgins> Heard of it, but don't remember much about it.
20:45:06 <wilcal> http://burningman.org/
20:45:07 <[mbot> [ Burning Man ]
20:45:13 <MrsB> if there's nothign else it's about that time..
20:45:18 <wilcal> i'm done
20:45:32 <MrsB> everybody please try the new kernels
20:45:43 <MrsB> thanks for coming :)
20:45:47 <MrsB> T - 5
20:45:50 <MrsB> 4
20:45:51 <lewyssmith> Goodbye everyone.
20:45:51 <MrsB> 3
20:45:53 <MrsB> 2
20:45:54 <MrsB> 1
20:45:57 <MrsB> #endmeeting