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19:05:08 <MrsB> Hi everyone, welcome to another one!
19:05:22 <MrsB> who volunteers to be Dave today?
19:05:52 * MrsB watches everybody step backwards
19:06:06 <MrsB> #chair wilcal lewyssmith
19:06:06 <Inigo_Montoya> Current chairs: MrsB lewyssmith wilcal
19:06:30 <lewyssmith> # topic Anyone new?
19:06:38 <MrsB> As said in the email, there is only really one topic for tonight
19:06:47 <MrsB> oh ok, yeah, lets do that first :)
19:07:09 <MrsB> #topic Who's new?
19:07:18 <lewyssmith> I have only just seen the agenda
19:07:25 <MrsB> Is there anybody new here today?
19:07:28 <MrsB> that's ok
19:08:06 <MrsB> nobody new :(
19:08:09 <lewyssmith> Silence = No.
19:08:20 <lewyssmith> #Topic Mageia 5
19:08:25 <MrsB> \o/
19:08:28 <MrsB> thanks Dave
19:08:41 <MrsB> Before we get into it..
19:08:46 <brian__> a special place Mageia 5
19:08:57 <MrsB> There is a new Isodumper which we need to test for Mageia 4
19:09:20 <MrsB> it removes the UEFI tick box and should dump as before
19:09:22 <neoclust> Hi
19:09:41 <MrsB> could UEFI people please test it to make sure it still works ok please
19:09:44 <MrsB> hi neoclust
19:10:17 <MrsB> The bug hasn't been assigned to us yet, I'll do that after the meeting
19:10:28 <wilcal> I have a request for Isodumper
19:10:33 <MrsB> It is waiting in Core Updates Testing though
19:11:21 <lewyssmith> wilcal: Yes, Bill?
19:11:25 <MrsB> ...
19:11:44 <wilcal> After Isodumper is finished writing an iso to the usb device it goes through a check against the iso
19:11:58 <wilcal> could there be an option to do that again at a later time
19:12:20 <wilcal> check whats on the USB device against an iso file
19:12:36 <lewyssmith> (or DVD)
19:12:44 <wilcal> or whatever
19:13:02 <MrsB> Create an 'enhancement request' bug report, papoteur created it for us and may be willing to look at it
19:13:12 <wilcal> will do
19:13:36 <lewyssmith> M5 now?
19:13:37 <MrsB> So now... Mageia 5..
19:13:39 <MrsB> yes
19:13:51 <MrsB> how is it? Still gnome issues I see
19:14:15 <brian__> xfce upgrade went well - on it now
19:14:29 <brian__> livecd Gnome upgrade went fine for me
19:14:40 <wilcal> I am very happy with Live media as live media and the CI's installed on a clean drive ( non-uefi )
19:14:47 <MrsB> https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=release_blocker&sharer_id=5&list_id=48039 Release blocker bugs list
19:14:48 <brian__> yup
19:14:51 <lewyssmith> I have not been able to install either the latest Classic, or (to completion) the Gnome Live!
19:15:14 <MrsB> not at all or not with Gnome lewis?
19:15:24 <brian__> livecd Gnome - no issue for me.  are you doing UEFI
19:15:25 <brian__> ?
19:15:56 <lewyssmith> Classic not at all; Gnome Live -> Oh No, Install fails ay bootloader installation.
19:15:59 <neoclust> you really think https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5690 is release_blocker ?
19:16:00 <[mbot> Bug 5690: critical, release_blocker, thierry.vignaud, NEW , After install from USB, it should be set as repo (not DVD)
19:17:10 <tmb> neoclust, nope. but it seems people have decided mga5 needs to fix all bugs since beginning of time...
19:17:11 <MrsB> Not really seen it neoclust, it could be I guess
19:17:48 <MrsB> yeah we need to concentrate on getting gnome going I think
19:17:56 <tmb> I dont see how a bug filed 2012-04-30 could be considered release critical
19:18:05 <lewyssmith> True.
19:19:29 <tmb> nice to fix yes, but at the rate we are going it will be a new FOSDEM release :)
19:19:43 <MrsB> martin seems to be on it anyway so let's see
19:20:23 <tmb> yeah, but I think we shoud stop altering the installer as every time we fix something, then something else breaks...
19:20:33 <MrsB> LXDE shutdown is likely an errata item
19:20:41 <MrsB> yes agreed tmb, fix what we've got now
19:22:17 <MrsB> So Anne was askign whether we're ready for new ISOs. Is it now do you think, or get things fixed over the weekend and rebuild then?
19:22:26 <neoclust> tmb: i completly agree
19:22:38 <lewyssmith> The Classic boot fail problem is very basic & recognised (cannot find kernel). NEED a new buld please.
19:22:45 <wilcal> I wanna do just one more set of iso's
19:22:53 <wilcal> not two
19:22:58 * ennael just there. hi
19:23:03 <MrsB> morning ennael
19:23:07 <neoclust> ennael: hi
19:23:34 <MrsB> What would you like to do Anne?
19:23:35 <brian__> I agree with wilcal - we're so close, maybe wait for fixes
19:23:58 <wilcal> new isos generate at least 2 or 3 days of installs for me
19:23:59 <ennael> we should not modify installer anymore or we will release with next debian :)
19:24:16 <MrsB> yep, what about rebuilding?
19:24:18 <tmb> I'm currently squashing some kernel bufs, so that we need to wait for before building isos
19:24:25 <lewyssmith> Am happy to wait until after the weekend if that yields any improvements.
19:24:26 <tmb> *bugs*
19:24:41 <ennael> ok so new kernel then we can rebuild isos
19:24:46 <MrsB> That's a good reason to wait :)
19:24:58 <wilcal> How stable is M5 if installed using the boot.iso's?
19:24:59 <brian__> ;-)  4.04??
19:25:32 <neoclust> ennael: and release :)
19:25:51 <MrsB> I'm going to have less time available shortly too so asap works for me
19:26:14 <tmb> brian__, nope. I wouldn't touch 4.0 series for now... they are tracking some fairly damaging data loss bugs in it currently
19:26:53 <brian__> very wise then
19:27:38 <MrsB> we're so close now
19:27:51 <wilcal> boot.iso installs are extremely good for me
19:28:21 <MrsB> concentrate on the isos though please
19:28:43 <hviaene> New update of drak net-applet did not cure the Broadcom Wifi issue
19:28:44 <MrsB> Now a word on upgrades
19:28:50 <MrsB> oh
19:28:59 <wilcal> CI's on new hardware and Vbox client are extremely good
19:29:09 <MrsB> is that one of the kernel bugs tmb?
19:29:11 <tmb> hviaene, what issue ?
19:29:24 <MrsB> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14421
19:29:27 <[mbot> Bug 14421: normal, Normal, bugsquad, NEW , The Wifi configuration reports a problem, but the resulting configuration proves OK at the first boot.
19:29:35 <hviaene> Broadcom chipdet wifi does not work at all
19:30:04 <MrsB> is it one that needs wl ?
19:30:14 <hviaene> yes
19:30:34 <MrsB> try rpm -qa *broadcom*
19:31:51 <MrsB> and also show the output from dkms status, run as root
19:31:57 <tmb> according to latest report it's using the free driver
19:32:55 <hviaene> answers broadcom-bcma-config-1-6.mga5
19:33:45 <MrsB> is this just from the classic install hviaene?
19:33:52 <MrsB> live ok?
19:33:56 <hviaene> yes
19:34:05 <hviaene> did not try live
19:34:34 <MrsB> some jobs for you tomorrow :)
19:34:36 <tmb> in log: " Support for cores revisions 0x17 and 0x18 disabled by module param allhwsupport=0. Try b43.allhwsupport=1"
19:34:38 <hviaene> dkms: commznd not found????
19:34:52 <MrsB> as root
19:34:57 <hviaene> yes
19:35:02 <tmb> hviaene, yeah, dkms is only needed for broadcom-wl
19:35:17 <tmb> not the free in-kernel drivers
19:35:38 <MrsB> should that chipset use wl instead?
19:36:44 <MrsB> Let's move on anyway
19:36:45 <tmb> MrsB, well.. since it works after boot according to report ...
19:36:49 <hviaene> I always had to use wlps to get it working before
19:36:55 <hviaene> but it did
19:37:21 <MrsB> Ahh so the bug is that it's not workign in the classic installer hviaene but does in the installed system?
19:37:29 <hviaene> It does not work anymore in final 2
19:37:35 <MrsB> if so, that's kind of expected
19:37:57 <hviaene> Not at all
19:38:39 <lewyssmith> Broadcom has always proved problematic for Mageia.
19:38:50 <hviaene> I have been able to plug in Ralinl en Realtek, all OK, not Broadcom
19:39:24 <MrsB> Ah comment 8 says it isn't working after reboot tmb
19:39:50 <hviaene> You cann't tell people to go out and buy a new wifi adapter for M5's sake
19:40:03 <MrsB> Let's move on anyway, can you work to help debug that one hviaene
19:40:22 <wilcal> One thing from me
19:40:25 <MrsB> Upgrades..
19:40:28 <tmb> hviaene, do a "urpmi broadcom-wl-kernel-desktop-latest" as root, reboot and reconfigure your wireless
19:40:45 <wilcal> Can we have an agreement that a Vbox only upgrade bug is not a release blocker?
19:40:52 <tmb> hviaene, if it works then, add a note abput it in the bugreport
19:41:10 <MrsB> preferably wilcal, depends what the bug is
19:41:22 <MrsB> is that your one with no X after  upgrade?
19:41:30 <wilcal> I've got a couple I've posted
19:41:38 <wilcal> ya that's one of them
19:41:49 <wilcal> also the very old no nfs after upgrade
19:42:05 <MrsB> I've done a number of vbox upgrades and X has started ok for me
19:42:22 <wilcal> it's only in x86_64
19:42:26 <wilcal> KDE
19:42:37 <MrsB> yeah it was 64bit but with all DE's
19:42:43 <wilcal> imo it should not be a release blocker
19:43:17 <MrsB> I'll do another tomorrow with just kde but no I don't think release blocker unless other HW is affected too
19:43:48 <wilcal> I'm gonna look at HW upgrades later today and tomorrow
19:44:37 <lewyssmith> Are our RAID testers happy?
19:44:56 <MrsB> they're few and far between
19:45:15 <MrsB> #info Could RAID testers give a status report please
19:45:40 <neoclust> MrsB: i will test an install in 1 hr on my raid machine i think
19:45:44 <tmb> unless we have broken something lately it should be ok
19:45:47 <MrsB> thanks neoclust
19:45:56 <MrsB> yeah fingers x'd
19:46:10 <MrsB> Has everybody tried doing upgrades now?
19:46:23 <lewyssmith> Not yet. Sorry.
19:46:50 <MrsB> If you add online medias during upgrade it should have all the current fixes
19:46:52 <brian__> I've done two on latest
19:47:31 <brian__> VM done first
19:47:50 <MrsB> I've done a few large upgrades in vbox and now java stuff is fixed they  seems pretty good
19:48:17 <MrsB> #info if you want something different to do please test upgrades from mga4 to mga5
19:48:53 <MrsB> Anybody anythign else to add?
19:48:58 <wilcal> Upgrade testing is good if there is something to watch on TV  :-)
19:49:06 <brian__> ha - so true
19:49:10 <wilcal> sometimes takes hours
19:49:14 <MrsB> it is a slow process
19:49:22 <brian__> I've done XFCE, KDE - anybody something different?
19:49:57 <MrsB> try with random packages installed. just go through rpmdrake ticking random things
19:50:44 <brian__> ok
19:50:47 <MrsB> ennael tmb anything you want to add about Mageia 5 ?
19:51:05 <neoclust> MrsB: tmb : i did several KDE Mga4 -> Mga5 updates and all w/o any pb
19:51:16 <tmb> nope, not for now
19:51:29 <ennael> not for me
19:51:32 <MrsB> yeah it's looking good now I think neoclust
19:51:52 <MrsB> Anybody want to add anything before we close?
19:52:03 <wilcal> not from me
19:52:03 <lewyssmith> Ready to move on?
19:52:08 <lewyssmith> #Topic Anything else?
19:52:15 <MrsB> thanks Dave
19:52:21 <wilcal> The VM Venom thingy was way way overblown in the American press this week.
19:52:22 <MrsB> Is there anything else?
19:52:32 <lewyssmith> Yes - me; I need info. Wait a moment...
19:53:02 <MrsB> oh yes, well it was "marketed". The firm who discovered it put the press on hold until they'd set up a website etc
19:53:36 <MrsB> press will get wise to it eventually
19:53:40 <wilcal> Out update of VirtualBox fix it for us
19:53:47 <wilcal> our update
19:53:53 <lewyssmith> Can somebody please send me the *original* post "Blog posts before and after Mageia
19:53:53 <lewyssmith> 5 (and we need one now)." I need the PAD link contained therein. Please.
19:54:24 <MrsB> Akien: here?
19:54:51 <MrsB> lewis could you email stormi about that please
19:55:16 <lewyssmith> Will do.
19:55:21 <MrsB> great :)
19:55:28 <MrsB> Is there anythign else else?
19:55:46 <MrsB> s/gn/ng/g
19:56:02 <MrsB> T - 5 then
19:56:10 <wilcal> bye all
19:56:12 <lewyssmith> Not here. Goodbye everyone.
19:56:15 <MrsB> thanks for coming everybody. We're really close now!
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19:56:29 <MrsB> #endmeeting