19:07:01 <MrsB> #startmeeting 19:07:01 <Inigo_Montoya`> Meeting started Thu Oct 2 19:07:01 2014 UTC. The chair is MrsB. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:07:01 <Inigo_Montoya`> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 19:07:13 <MrsB> Welcome to another one everybody :) 19:07:21 <MrsB> #chair wilcal 19:07:21 <Inigo_Montoya`> Current chairs: MrsB wilcal 19:07:33 <MrsB> before we start let's have wilcal tell us about his day out 19:07:39 <Kernewes> ooh 19:07:44 <wilcal> Ohhhh ya 19:07:48 <MrsB> :) 19:08:05 <wilcal> Well I live South of the biggest movie making industry in the world Hollywood 19:08:15 <MrsB> i live north of it 19:08:26 <Kernewes> I live well clear of it 19:08:51 <wilcal> Hollywood has gone digital so for the last 10-years or so I travel to the LA basin to participate in meeting, seminars and tradeshow for that industry 19:08:59 <wilcal> yesterday was such a trade show 19:09:16 <MrsB> very nice 19:09:17 <wilcal> Basically I meet the geeks behind the cameras 19:09:19 <Kernewes> oh, you went last year didn't you? 19:09:25 <MrsB> smoozing 19:09:26 <Kernewes> I saw your video 19:09:37 <wilcal> ya I go to many maybe a half dozen a year 19:09:44 <MrsB> did you hand out any Mageia dvd's? 19:09:50 <diogenese> :) 19:09:55 <wilcal> Linux is embedded in many movie making devices 19:10:11 <wilcal> I wear my Mageia polo shirt and OpenShot cap 19:10:15 <MrsB> \o/ 19:10:26 <MrsB> let's get going then 19:10:34 <MrsB> #topic Who's new? 19:10:36 <wilcal> Absolutely a facinating industry and extremely creative 19:10:46 <MrsB> glad you enjoyed it 19:10:56 <MrsB> Is there anybody new with us today? 19:10:57 <Kernewes> there are one or two I haven't met yet as I can't come every time 19:11:10 <olivier_cc> still green but not new anymore 19:11:27 <stef74> Me I don't know! 19:11:27 <tarazed> same here 19:11:35 <MrsB> stef74 welcome 19:11:42 <olivier_cc> welcome stef 19:12:09 <MrsB> We've kind of chatted a bit already but say a few words to introduce yourself and everybody will do the same 19:12:11 <rehcla> I am new:) 19:12:28 <MrsB> hi rehcla too, welcome, you introduce yourself too. 19:12:58 <MrsB> I'm Claire. team leader, based in the Black Country, UK 19:13:12 <MrsB> been with the QA team since it started 19:13:18 <wilcal> "wilcal" for (Wil)liam in (Cal)ifornia, live near San Diego ( Surf City USA ) 19:13:23 <lewyssmith> olivier_cc, I have answered your latest e-mail. 19:13:27 <rehcla> hmmm.... I am from Austria, 34 years old working as a therapist and into Linux since 2003! 19:13:28 <diogenese> I'm William from California (#2) 19:13:34 <olivier_cc> Olivier, France, Haute-Savoie, member for two weeks 19:13:44 <MrsB> ohh therapists we need ! 19:13:54 <olivier_cc> yes thanks lewis, i just read it 19:13:55 <rehcla> MrsB: gg 19:14:00 <lewyssmith> Lewis, expat Celt living in France. 19:14:01 <stef74> I'm stef74, some times on french forum, some times bugsquad and QA. 19:14:22 <Kernewes> Carolyn from Cornwall, UK, occasional helper and the dunce of the team 19:14:23 <stef74> I travel every weeks. Old user from mandriva. 19:14:25 <MrsB> are you really 74 Stef? 19:14:26 <tarazed> len in edinburgh - almost new but old in the tooth 19:14:39 <Kernewes> tarazed: great, another Celtic cousin 19:14:48 <olivier_cc> and still english citizen then tarazed 19:14:51 <stef74> On mandriva: modo on french forum, bugsquad, translator.... 19:14:59 <lewyssmith> olivier_cc, British. 19:15:00 <Kernewes> olivier_cc: UK 19:15:05 <tarazed> I wish - anglo/irish actually 19:15:15 <olivier_cc> arf, my mistake sorry 19:15:24 <MrsB> oh Len, me too 19:15:29 <lewyssmith> Les français... 19:15:52 <Kernewes> MrsB: you Anglo-Irish? 19:15:54 <MrsB> I'm 25% welsh 25% english and 50% irish 19:16:17 <MrsB> roughly 19:16:18 <lewyssmith> Explains a lot. 19:16:19 <stef74> MrsB: 74 for haute savoie! 19:16:22 <MrsB> :P 19:16:32 <olivier_cc> neighbour then stef 19:17:03 <MrsB> nice area 19:17:07 <stef74> olivier_cc: before yes, now 01! but I don't want to change. Lost of people now me with 74! 19:17:27 <MrsB> Welcome to the QA team then both of you 19:17:33 <MrsB> this is your official welcome 19:17:35 <MrsB> :) 19:17:50 <MrsB> Have you both subscribed to the mailing lists? 19:17:57 <rehcla> I did 19:18:00 <stef74> yes 19:18:42 <MrsB> and did you both find the 'your first steps' wiki page? 19:18:56 <MrsB> https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Your_first_steps_in_the_QA_team 19:19:31 <stef74> yes 19:20:04 <rehcla> I will take a good look on it 19:20:29 <MrsB> We've begun assigning a mentor to people who join the team as a way of getting you used to how things work and giving you the confidence to act independently (And to keep prodding you to do stuff :D) 19:20:51 <rehcla> great:) 19:21:17 <MrsB> If you want to have a go at something though, please just have a go at it. You won't get in trouble 19:21:27 <lewyssmith> Have we a German speaker? 19:21:35 <rehcla> here 19:21:40 <Kernewes> yes 19:21:43 <lewyssmith> To help you! 19:21:51 <rehcla> ah:) 19:22:00 <rehcla> English is fine 19:22:05 <Kernewes> I'm not around enough to be a mentor unfortunately 19:22:14 <MrsB> Akien speaks German. I can be english speaking mentor to somebody though 19:22:30 <rehcla> If you dont mind my grammar;) 19:22:37 <MrsB> not at all 19:22:48 <MrsB> So who can act as mentor for stef? 19:22:54 <lewyssmith> Me? 19:22:58 <MrsB> if you like lewis 19:23:14 <lewyssmith> fine by me. 19:23:24 <MrsB> stef74 lewis will be a mentor for you then 19:23:33 <stef74> no soucie 19:23:39 <MrsB> cool, thanks lewis 19:23:42 <lewyssmith> I need your e-mail address. 19:24:09 <MrsB> it's useful to use irc as much as you can too, quicker to talk this way 19:24:25 <Akien> Morgen QA :-) 19:24:39 <lewyssmith> Depends on circumstances, surely. 19:24:41 <olivier_cc> Guten Abend Akien 19:24:48 <Kernewes> Akien: Gguten Abend 19:24:51 <Kernewes> oops 19:24:55 <Kernewes> Guten Abend 19:25:01 <MrsB> Morgen Akien 19:25:02 <rehcla> Akien: Servus 19:25:05 <Kernewes> can't type in any language :( 19:25:13 <diogenese> Me either 19:25:36 <MrsB> Let's move on then and see how the mentoring is going.. 19:25:43 <MrsB> #topic Mentoring update 19:26:02 <MrsB> How are things working out then everybody? 19:26:08 <rehcla> MrsB: did I get this right.... you are my mentor? 19:26:18 <MrsB> yes, i'll be yours 19:26:26 <olivier_cc> As you said Claire, lewis keeps prodding me to do things 19:26:36 <rehcla> MrsB: ups... that will keep me busy:) 19:26:40 <MrsB> that's great, he's doing well then \o/ 19:26:45 <wilcal> I've worked a little with the gentleman assigned to me 19:26:56 <MrsB> keep prodding wilcal 19:27:06 <olivier_cc> he is getting me ready for the beta testing 19:27:11 <wilcal> Got him up to speed with the whiteboard. He seems to be a busy guy. 19:27:13 <MrsB> tarazed: how are we doing? 19:27:28 <lewyssmith> In my defence, I do *not* prod Oliver: he is a glutton for work. 19:27:36 <wilcal> Beta testing is a great place to jump in 19:27:52 <wilcal> you don't feel alone as lots of people are contributing 19:28:02 <MrsB> it is, yes, but updates are where we struggle for people really so it's important to get involved there please 19:28:04 <wilcal> also it's important to test on different hardware platforms 19:28:28 <wilcal> Lately new people have helped keep the updates list down 19:28:37 <stef74> It's very important to test on raid machine! 19:28:37 <olivier_cc> i quite like the updates too even if i don't always feel confident 19:28:40 <wilcal> although today it picked up a bit 19:29:08 <Kernewes> I had hoped to do a bit this week but I caught a horrible cold that wiped me out for 3 days 19:29:12 <wilcal> Please work the easiet first as it allows the veterans to work the harder, longer taking, issues 19:29:15 <MrsB> If you ever feel completely confident olivier_cc then you're probably missing things :) 19:29:22 <Kernewes> so all I've managed to do was add a few testing procedures to the wiki 19:29:29 <olivier_cc> :) 19:29:37 <MrsB> Kernewes: you have the lurgi? 19:29:39 <lewyssmith> Kernewes, Very useful. 19:29:49 <Kernewes> MrsB: yes, it was a monster :( 19:29:53 <MrsB> :( 19:30:13 <Akien> I'll have to send another easy bugs list to andreani, he's doing fine already, but I should keep the flame alive :-) 19:30:13 <Kernewes> I think it was a reaction to all the months of stress I've had over the CT scan 19:30:43 <tarazed> Sorry Claire - forgot to type away 19:30:49 <MrsB> yes, we're going to be getting more busy with updates (as is usual when we have ISOs to test, ironically) 19:31:18 <tarazed> After a hard week getting a VM to run as user I am back in the saddle sort of. 19:31:23 <Kernewes> tarazed: how's the mentoring going? 19:31:30 <Kernewes> ah 19:31:31 <tarazed> Did the dbus test as requested. 19:31:36 <MrsB> great news tarazed :) how do you think it's going so far? 19:32:15 <tarazed> I think I am getting the hang of it. Will stick to the simpler ones for a while. 19:32:46 <MrsB> Well most have a procedure listed on them at the moment 19:32:56 <olivier_cc> could you remind me where the procedures wiki is ? 19:33:03 <tarazed> The mentoring is going fine - MrsB is ace. 19:33:15 <MrsB> do't hesitate to have a go at them and don't hesitate to ask about anything, those are the rules ! 19:33:30 <Akien> olivier_cc: Click the "Wiki" link for a given update on http://mageia.madb.org/tools/updates 19:33:32 <[mbot> [ Mageia App Db - Current Update candidates ] 19:33:41 <Akien> If will search for the procedure on the wiki 19:33:55 <Kernewes> https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Category:Testing_procedures 19:33:59 <MrsB> Most procedures can be found by clicking the 'Bugzilla' link there though 19:34:11 <Kernewes> but you sometimes have to scroll way down to find it 19:34:13 <olivier_cc> ok thanks, bookmarked ! 19:34:15 <Akien> You can also see all currently documented procedures here: https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Category:Testing_procedures 19:34:33 <Kernewes> I try to add some when I can 19:34:38 <Akien> olivier_cc: Yes, the Mageia App Db page should be every QA member's homepage :-D 19:35:01 <lewyssmith> Carved on their heart. 19:35:11 <olivier_cc> it should even be the only page we visit 19:35:14 <olivier_cc> no ? 19:35:21 <Kernewes> he's learning fast :) 19:35:30 <MrsB> The Buzilla link on the madb page searches bugzilla for the last time the package was updated. Look for ones which have 'has_procedure' in the whiteboard as they have a procedure on the bug 19:35:47 <olivier_cc> yes i have to tame my mentor Kernewes 19:36:48 <MrsB> Keep doing testing though everybody please, it's really important 19:37:08 <MrsB> #topic Increasin activity 19:37:15 <MrsB> see what i did there ;) 19:37:17 <Akien> Sheeeeeellshock! 19:37:32 <diogenese> Still... 19:37:35 <wilcal> Yes, lots of new people and things are moving. 19:37:45 <wilcal> And we've been Shellshocked 19:37:54 <MrsB> We have alot of people starting to get involved now but not many being brave and having a go at things 19:38:22 <lewyssmith> I don't knoww about that. 19:38:24 <wilcal> Please new people any help is SUPER 19:38:24 <Kernewes> it's not just having a go, often you have to learn how to use something first 19:38:30 <Kernewes> and that can take ages 19:38:53 <MrsB> When it's left to only a few people it's a really big task to keep on top of things, so please do get involved and try to do things. Even if everybody did one test per day we would be in good shape. 19:38:59 <rehcla> Can testing be done in kvm/qemu or do I need to install Virtualbox? 19:39:12 <MrsB> most testing can rehcla yes 19:39:29 <MrsB> kernels and anything involving hardware needs to be done on real hardware though 19:39:45 <lewyssmith> It should be useful to use *other* than VBox. 19:39:48 <MrsB> but there is value to ensuring a new kernel works in vbox too 19:39:48 <Kernewes> have a separate partition for testing 19:39:54 <rehcla> MrsB: thought so;) 19:40:17 <lewyssmith> We get updates for kvm/qemu. 19:41:22 <MrsB> FWIW I've never used a specific install for testing. I've always just used my regular setup. I have VM's for mga3 and an old laptop with mga3 32 then a mga4 64 machine which runs those vms and a 2nd machine for mga4 32 19:42:30 <wilcal> I can confirm today that the latest kernel/Vbox updates are working here just fine 19:42:53 <lewyssmith> [Bill is our VBox whizzo]. 19:43:00 <wilcal> I luv it 19:43:10 <wilcal> it's gotten really good on M4 19:43:24 <MrsB> We really need people to start testing some updates now please, so don't be scared of them. 19:43:37 <MrsB> they quickly get backlogged if we're slow 19:43:51 <wilcal> are we now at "Testing Updates" 19:44:06 <MrsB> #topic Testing updates 19:44:09 <MrsB> ok 19:44:09 <wilcal> :-)) 19:44:17 <wilcal> got something to say 19:44:27 <MrsB> go for it 19:44:31 <wilcal> Note that mirrors.kernel.org/mageia/distrib/..... is presently not responding 19:44:32 <wilcal> According to tmb there's some maintenance going on. I've no idea when it will be back. 19:44:34 <wilcal> I had to switch to: distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/ 19:44:35 <wilcal> which is considerably slower for me. So today I'll fully back in gear. 19:44:49 <MrsB> welcome back 19:45:05 <MrsB> it's affecting a number of mirror as alot sync from kernel.org 19:45:07 <wilcal> maybe tmb can shed some lite on when that will be fully back 19:45:14 <olivier_cc> is it why updates don't always show up ? 19:45:20 <wilcal> ya lots of people sync off kernel.org 19:45:33 <wilcal> last updates on kernel.org were 24 Sept 19:45:39 <MrsB> it could be olivier_cc, which mirror do you use? 19:45:58 <olivier_cc> i switched to jussieu as well 19:46:06 <wilcal> ultimately lots of servers over here use kernel.org 19:46:32 <Kernewes> are updates on the same mirrors as the ISOs? 19:46:49 <MrsB> all carry the updates, not all carry the isos 19:46:51 <Akien> My piece of advice: take one of the German or Dutch mirrors that sync on distrib-coffee 19:47:02 <olivier_cc> and i use fr2.rpmfind before 19:47:05 <Akien> Most are really quick to sync, and have a great bandwidth 19:47:07 <Kernewes> For ISOs I use the one in Umea in Sweden 19:47:14 <olivier_cc> ok Akien 19:47:19 <MrsB> there is one in the UK Kernewes 19:47:29 <lewyssmith> Akien, Can you be more specific? 19:47:30 <Kernewes> MrsB: I get on better with the Swedish one 19:47:35 <Akien> lewyssmith: Yes, let me check 19:47:42 <tarazed> I chose one of the Czech mirrors and that works pretty well. 19:48:16 <wilcal> http://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/mageia/ has worked for me in the past 19:48:16 <MrsB> whichever works best for you. It'll usually depend on the time of day too, so pick one that's less busy when you're moreavailable 19:48:16 <[mbot> [ FTP archive directory /pub/os/Linux/distr/mageia/ ] 19:48:36 <Akien> I always use one of those three, and I'm pretty satisfied: ftp.uni-erlangen.de ftp-stud.hs-esslingen.de ftp.snt.utwente.nl (the last one syncs on the Brazilian tier1 mirror though) 19:48:43 <MrsB> http://mirrors.mageia.org/status 19:48:49 <MrsB> current mirror staus 19:49:01 * stef74 use distrib-coffee, I make the synchronization the night on my nas for MGA4 and cauldron 19:49:16 <MrsB> that's a good thing to do stef74 19:49:36 <lewyssmith> I seldom have trouble with my default distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/ 19:49:57 <MrsB> that's one of the tier1 mirros lewis, a good one to choose for QA 19:50:10 <Kernewes> tier1? 19:50:21 <lewyssmith> And it is in France, for relevant people. 19:50:23 <MrsB> yes, it syncs directly from the main mageia mirror 19:50:39 <MrsB> other mirrors sync from it 19:50:40 <Kernewes> and the others? 19:50:42 <wilcal> French mirrors are always more stylish 19:50:47 <Kernewes> oh I see 19:51:02 <lewyssmith> Home of Mageia ancestors. 19:51:11 <Kernewes> I have a soft spot for anything Swedish anyway 19:51:21 <lewyssmith> Sounds kinky. 19:51:23 <MrsB> So back to the updates.. 19:51:31 * MrsB slaps lewis 19:51:33 <olivier_cc> about testing, I asked lewys if we had to test updates on both architectures (32 and 64) when the package is noarch 19:51:42 <Kernewes> MrsB: thank you 19:52:04 <MrsB> preferably yes olivier_cc, but not essential 19:52:12 <lewyssmith> MrsB, Why not slap Carolyn? 19:52:17 <MrsB> we can at least it installs correctly on both arch's 19:52:35 <MrsB> she's got the lurgi 19:52:49 <lewyssmith> Excuses, excuses. 19:53:03 <Kernewes> lewyssmith: you're the one with a filthy mind 19:53:07 <MrsB> Are there any updates there which look scary? 19:53:19 <MrsB> http://mageia.madb.org/tools/updates 19:53:21 <wilcal> As I said today I successfully updated my workstations/servers with the latest kernel/Vbox and all went ok 19:53:21 <[mbot> [ Mageia App Db - Current Update candidates ] 19:53:27 <MrsB> Most have a procedure listed now 19:53:28 <lewyssmith> Updates: bacula is till getting the better of me. 19:53:44 <MrsB> i'll swap you bacula for some security updates lewis 19:54:03 <lewyssmith> When I get my Mageia back... 19:54:25 <MrsB> we'll do that after the meeting then 19:54:28 <wilcal> are we making progress on dbus? 19:54:35 <wilcal> works ok here 19:54:37 <MrsB> dbus is ready AFAICT 19:54:44 <wilcal> :-)) 19:54:51 <lewyssmith> wilcal, Everyone but me. 19:55:13 <MrsB> i don't think your issues are with dbus though lewis 19:55:37 <lewyssmith> Hope not. They happened after it, though. 19:55:39 <MrsB> are you seeing any dbus errors in the journal? 19:55:48 <lewyssmith> Later, OK? 19:56:05 <MrsB> ok, be nice to validate it though today/tmrw 19:56:23 <wilcal> lets get it off the table as it's a security issue 19:56:24 <MrsB> Any others there that look scary? 19:56:32 <lewyssmith> I would go ahaead. I now agrre with you as above. 19:56:49 <wilcal> Any proceedure with Xerces2 19:57:22 <MrsB> I was hoping Frank would add one but i guess he's not seen it yet. We normally just ensure java things like that update cleanly. 19:57:49 <wilcal> If he does not come up with one I'll roll through it tomorrow 19:58:07 <MrsB> I've looked for a procedure to test it with but there is not much info about it 19:58:36 <MrsB> it does have samples in the -demo rpm but not sure how to use them. I've played with it a bit 19:58:41 <wilcal> Xerces2 is the next generation of high performance, fully compliant XML parsers in the Apache Xerces family. 19:58:47 <rehcla> MrsB: I installed the dbus update and rebooted my T530!What now? 19:58:50 <wilcal> ya gotta be really into that stuff to understand it 19:58:51 <MrsB> yes, circa 2008 19:59:14 <olivier_cc> i wanted to have a go with the libvirt package, I just wanted to be sure that the procedure was to set up a VM with it and nothing else 19:59:31 <olivier_cc> which is quite enough for me though 19:59:31 <MrsB> Did you install all the packages, including the lib rehcla? 19:59:43 <MrsB> olivier_cc: yes that's fine 20:00:13 <rehcla> MrsB: Firefox 31.1 running fine since I installed it this afternoon 20:00:28 <MrsB> dbus, dbus-doc, dbus-x11 and libdbus1_3 20:00:39 <MrsB> lib64dbus1_3 if its 64bit 20:00:47 <rehcla> MrsB: urpmi dbus --searchmedia "testing" 20:00:53 <rehcla> MrsB: thats what I did 20:01:08 <MrsB> ok, did it install those packages ^^ 20:01:40 <rehcla> MrsB: hmmm.... I not sure :-/ 20:01:42 <MrsB> I'll go through it with you tomorrow rehcla 20:01:47 <rehcla> how can I find out? 20:01:54 <MrsB> you will need to configure your media first 20:02:10 <MrsB> rpm -qa dbus* 20:02:13 <rehcla> MrsB: ok 20:03:01 <lewyssmith> You need to check the version you have with that given in the bug. 20:03:05 <rehcla> MrsB: dbus-1.6.18-1.4.mga4, dbus-x11-1.6.18-1.3.mga4 20:03:29 <MrsB> you have a mix there rehcla 20:03:45 <MrsB> I'll help you after the meeting, so you don't run into trouble with it ok 20:03:49 <rehcla> MrsB: so I update the x11 seperately? 20:04:15 <MrsB> Are there any updates there which are too scary to have a go at? 20:04:53 <MrsB> Pick any which have a procedure available, you can see that on the madb page, and you should be fine 20:05:05 <rehcla> MrsB: I updated the x11: dbus-x11-1.6.18-1.4.mga4, dbus-1.6.18-1.4.mga4 20:05:20 <MrsB> rehcla: let's talk after the meeting 20:05:26 <rehcla> ok 20:05:58 <MrsB> let's move on then as they're all easy bug there ;) 20:06:15 <MrsB> #topic Luigi's Roundup 20:06:25 <Kernewes> Cue disco dave 20:06:28 <MrsB> I'm not sure whetherhe'll be here today 20:06:36 <wilcal> Luigi may not be here today 20:06:41 <Kernewes> so I gather 20:06:42 <MrsB> Luigi12_lappy: Luigi12_work Luigi12 ping? 20:06:46 <diogenese> He had a late night last night too. 20:07:05 <lewyssmith> All the things he mentioned in his e-mail were unknown to me. 20:07:08 <wilcal> Status bash we're mostly ok? 20:07:21 <wilcal> expecting another update shortly 20:07:24 <diogenese> Mostly, yes. 20:07:36 <wilcal> It's so in the news 20:07:42 <MrsB> #info Coming soon: libupnp and libvncserver (and Luc is working on another krfb update related to the libvncserver issues), and maybe c-icap. 20:07:49 <malo> On the topic of security updates blocked by unactive packagers, it was discussed in the packager meeting on Tuesday. 20:08:01 <malo> hopefully it should improve gradually 20:08:02 <MrsB> #info Bruno Cornec is looking into an update for golang. I've also filed bugs for geary and srtp. 20:08:11 <MrsB> thanks for that malo 20:08:42 <MrsB> please keep pinging people. It's too much for one person to do. We need to get out of the old mdv mindset 20:09:03 <lewyssmith> What was that? 20:09:15 <wilcal> For new people "mdv" is Mandriva/Mandrake 20:09:27 <MrsB> qa team took care of all security updates in mdv IINM 20:10:28 <MrsB> So a watered down roundup this week. 20:10:51 <MrsB> We can expect all these backlog of updates to be slowly caught up though and there are alot of them! 20:10:59 <MrsB> we're going to be busy over the coming weeks 20:11:03 <Kernewes> about 60 isn't it? 20:11:07 <MrsB> yes it was 20:11:38 <MrsB> Any questions about security updates? 20:11:51 <malo> https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=comp%3Asecu%20-%40qa-b&list_id=34128 is at 56 now. Hopefully going down. 20:12:00 <MrsB> cool, thanks malo 20:12:49 <MrsB> Well, that was easy :) that only leaves... 20:12:54 <MrsB> #topic Anything else? 20:13:01 <MrsB> Is there anything else? 20:13:09 <wilcal> not from me 20:13:15 <wilcal> many thanks to new people 20:13:22 <Kernewes> no 20:13:31 <Kernewes> I mean no new items 20:13:37 <Kernewes> yes, thanks to the new people 20:13:56 <MrsB> yeah, welcome to all our new people. Keep going and do get stuck in. It's really the best way to learn 20:13:58 <olivier_cc> many thanks to the team, feels nice here 20:14:41 <MrsB> quick meeting today then 20:14:41 <lewyssmith> Kernewes, Am I forgiven? Nos da. 20:14:52 <Kernewes> lewyssmith: of course, Nos da. 20:15:05 <MrsB> Thanks for coming everybody, same time next week. Lurk here if you like, most do 20:15:11 <MrsB> T - 5 20:15:12 <MrsB> 4 20:15:14 <MrsB> 3 20:15:16 <MrsB> 2 20:15:17 <MrsB> 1 20:15:20 <MrsB> #endmeeting