19:06:37 <MrsB> #startmeeting 19:06:37 <Inigo_Montoya> Meeting started Thu Jun 26 19:06:37 2014 UTC. The chair is MrsB. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:06:37 <Inigo_Montoya> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 19:06:48 <MrsB> Welcome to another one everybody 19:07:06 <MrsB> #chair wilcal DavidWHodgins 19:07:06 <Inigo_Montoya> Current chairs: DavidWHodgins MrsB wilcal 19:07:09 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Who's new? Come and say hello! 19:07:15 <MrsB> thanks 19:07:29 <MrsB> Is anybody new here at the meeting today? 19:07:48 <MrsB> no :( 19:07:55 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Testing ISOs - mga5 alpha1 soon, do we know what we're doing? 19:08:24 <MrsB> This was really aimed at poeple just joining, but does everybody know what to do? 19:08:35 <wilcal> I guess I asked this before. What are the major changes in M5? 19:08:37 <wilcal> if any 19:08:42 <DavidWHodgins> tmb: Next Tuesday for first iso builds? 19:08:50 <lewyssmith> Are there *no* procedural changes envisaged? 19:09:02 <MrsB> probably very little so far wilcal, alpha1 is normally pretty stable actually. 19:09:14 <wilcal> So this should be an easy uptick 19:09:40 <MrsB> with any luck. It'll be a good introduction for some new people though ready for later ISOs 19:09:57 <tmb> DavidWHodgins, yeah, something like that 19:10:11 <MrsB> I'm expecting them around the start of the month as release is planend for the 8th 19:10:28 <MrsB> lewis, what kind of changes? 19:10:36 <wilcal> The one app I was hope'n to get in here OpenShot 2.0 ain't gonna make it in M5 :-(( 19:10:49 <MrsB> if you have ideas it's a good time to share them 19:11:11 <lewyssmith> I did so last time; stony ground. 19:11:52 <DavidWHodgins> Ideas may not be agreed on, but it's always good to share any. 19:11:54 <wilcal> Are we going to stay on schedule or move release to FOSDEM 2015? 19:12:20 <MrsB> i don't think we'll set such a hard deadline this time 19:12:24 <DavidWHodgins> Stay on schedule, unless there are problems found. 19:13:32 <MrsB> https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_5_Development 19:13:58 <MrsB> needs updating 19:14:11 <DavidWHodgins> #info First builds of Mageia 5 alpha1 should be ready on, or close to July 1st. 19:14:41 <tmb> MrsB, what update ? 19:15:03 <MrsB> oh, no, sorry. tired brain read it wrong 19:15:19 <wilcal> will there be a full set of isos or maybe just the Live-CD's? 19:15:48 <MrsB> it's usually a full set 19:15:55 <dvg> should be 19:16:04 <MrsB> we need to find issues as early as possible 19:16:12 <DavidWHodgins> ennael: Ok with first builds on, or close to July 1st? 19:16:37 <MrsB> for alpha1 we'll largely be looking to make sure it boots, installs and filing lots of bugs 19:17:01 <wilcal> It will have the latest KDE I suspect 19:17:02 <tmb> Yeah, we haven't seen any real issues so far that would make isos late or non-existant for alpha1 19:17:31 <lewyssmith> I hope nothing new is planned subsequently. 19:17:42 <MrsB> I'm anticipating some gnome glitches but it's alpha1 so they're expected at this stage 19:17:57 <DavidWHodgins> lewyssmith: There will be new stuff, up until release freeze. 19:17:58 <wilcal> Hopefully not as bad as Gnome was for M4 19:18:18 <lewyssmith> DavidWHodgins: What do you mean by 'new stuff'? 19:18:25 <MrsB> it was ok in the end wilcal 19:18:33 <tmb> well, there will be one "issue" and that is that only nvidia-current is available for new x11-server, the rest will have to rely on free drivers 19:18:35 <wilcal> It was 19:18:41 <DavidWHodgins> New versions of some software, when available from upstream. 19:19:00 <lewyssmith> That' OK. 19:19:14 <MrsB> will that be automated tmb or just noted somewhere? 19:19:21 <tmb> and of course as MrsB pointed out, Gnome/gtk is currently in unstable mode 19:19:50 <MrsB> there's a major transition ongoing in gnome atm by the sounds of it 19:20:01 <lewyssmith> Again ... 19:20:19 <MrsB> innovation in action! 19:20:31 <tmb> MrsB, the nonfree drivers that does not work with the new x11-server will simply not be on the isos, so they will default to free ones 19:20:44 <MrsB> ok thank tmb 19:20:48 <MrsB> s 19:21:17 <lewyssmith> We should avoid testing a moving target. 19:21:38 <MrsB> this will be alot different from 4.1 lewis 19:21:47 <lewyssmith> 4. 19:21:49 <DavidWHodgins> lewyssmith: Up until release freeze, it's always a moving target. 19:22:00 <lewyssmith> Shouldn't be, Dave. 19:22:07 <MrsB> it's a snapshot of cauldron, which is always changing. 19:22:11 <tmb> as for jumping fast on Gnome unstable, is that we hope to be able to flush out gnome/gtk bugs so mga5 with gnome 3.14.x will be somewhat good quality 19:22:31 <DavidWHodgins> brb 19:22:42 <MrsB> you think we can get uefi support finished in mga5 tmb? 19:23:02 <tmb> MrsB, we have to 19:23:16 <MrsB> yeah, it's increasingly important 19:23:16 <lewyssmith> It' a pre-requisite for me & our australian friend. 19:24:42 <DavidWHodgins> back 19:24:51 <MrsB> https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Pre-release_ISO_testing 19:25:05 <MrsB> we could do to get that page finished really 19:25:07 <lewyssmith> Needs improving. 19:25:22 <MrsB> there's alot of info though to get people started 19:25:25 <tmb> the "experimental" start in mga4 has given some interesting results/feedback that will help for mga5 19:26:08 <MrsB> great, so smooth sailing then tmb ;) 19:26:18 <lewyssmith> tmb: If you are talking about EFI, you might think about multiple Mageia installations. 19:26:35 <tmb> MrsB, yeah, famous final words :) 19:26:43 <ennael> hi there 19:26:50 <MrsB> morning ennael 19:27:20 <tmb> lewyssmith, true, but let's get one install stable first :) 19:27:24 <MrsB> do you have anything to add ennael? 19:28:05 <ennael> nope except be ready for the release hell to start again :) 19:28:12 <MrsB> \o/ 19:28:14 <lewyssmith> tmb: Problem is, testing ISOs will replace my M4 system. 19:28:56 <wilcal> Consider a removable drive subsystem. That's what I use Lewis 19:29:10 <lewyssmith> We are talking EFI, Bill. 19:29:15 <wilcal> OK 19:29:40 <wilcal> Your M4 is non-EFI 19:29:53 <lewyssmith> No. 19:30:07 <wilcal> I don't have an EFI system here either 19:30:26 <tmb> lewyssmith, efi does not have any issues with removable drives... 19:30:30 <DavidWHodgins> wilcal: He's concerned that the efi menu will only show the latest Mageia installed. 19:30:39 <lewyssmith> True. 19:30:53 <MrsB> me either, we're going to need people with EFi hw to make any problems known and help with debugging 19:31:18 <lewyssmith> I have experience of installing the smae distribution > once. Only the latest was bootable. 19:31:20 <tmb> and no it wont if we use grub2, as it scans everything and adds it to the menu 19:31:20 <MrsB> are you efi dave? 19:31:45 <tmb> for gummiboot I dont remeber 19:32:02 <DavidWHodgins> My system can boot efi, but requires using the bios setup, to select it. Can't make it default to efi. 19:32:26 <lewyssmith> I use & love rEFInd. 19:32:27 <RemyServices> I might have a efi system I can test with, but it will be spotty and I might not have it for use 100% of the time 19:32:37 <wilcal> What's an easy way to tell if a system is EFI or not? 19:32:39 <MrsB> that'll help RemyServices thanks 19:32:51 <MrsB> especially in the latter stages 19:32:57 <lewyssmith> Try efibootmgr. 19:33:08 <wilcal> in the boot bios 19:33:16 <DavidWHodgins> wilcal: Skim through the bios setup screens, to see if there is any reference to efi. 19:33:46 <wilcal> Somehow they frown on that in a computer store :-0 19:34:06 <wilcal> It should be in the MoBo specs right 19:34:13 <DavidWHodgins> Yes 19:34:13 <MrsB> tmb we'll ideally need early implementation to allow wider testing, probably not what you want to hear 19:34:21 <lewyssmith> Any box since 2012 should be EFI. 19:35:18 <RemyServices> is that true? didn't know that 19:35:25 <DavidWHodgins> My asus box with an Oct. 2012 bios can boot efi, but defaults to legacy bios. 19:35:27 <RemyServices> explains why I see it so much now... 19:35:52 <lewyssmith> It sort of came alongside Win8. 19:35:59 <MrsB> i've never even seen it let alone used it :\ 19:36:21 <dvg> i nuy machines without windows :) 19:36:22 <wilcal> Will an EFI boot one of our Live-CD's 19:36:25 <dvg> buy 19:36:29 <lewyssmith> It is *quite* a different ballgame. 19:36:34 <MrsB> wisdom comes with age dvg ;) 19:36:34 <DavidWHodgins> wilcal: Should 19:36:45 <dvg> MrsB thanks ! 19:36:47 <wilcal> "Should" is what we're testing for 19:36:48 <MrsB> :D 19:37:13 <lewyssmith> wilcal: M4 booted Live USB sticks. 19:37:25 <lewyssmith> in EFI, sorry. 19:37:38 <MrsB> Is everybody basically clear about what to expect from alpha1 ? 19:37:44 <wilcal> But will an EFI system install and boot an M5 Live-CD? 19:37:56 <wilcal> I've always wondered about that 19:37:59 <lewyssmith> It will, surely. 19:38:01 <RemyServices> i did get an efi to boot 4.1 live as well, but after the boot that was about as far as I could go. It was a windows 8 based tablet 19:38:14 <MrsB> tablet, crikey 19:38:18 <tmb> MrsB, yeah, will try to have it for alpha2 at the latest 19:38:22 <lewyssmith> I can advise anyone on thos subject. 19:38:24 <MrsB> thankyou 19:38:29 <MrsB> both 19:38:47 <MrsB> lewis you're in charge of EFI testing then 19:38:52 <DavidWHodgins> wilcal: If using a real dvd, it should boot in efi mode. If using a usb stick, still have to create a vfat partition and copy the contents of the iso image to the stick. 19:38:57 <lewyssmith> I was last time! 19:39:02 <barjac> lewyssmith: we need a chat some time ;) 19:39:14 <lewyssmith> Up to you. 19:39:34 <MrsB> morning barjac 19:39:40 <DavidWHodgins> tmb: That reminds me. We should probably make the iso contents available as zip files, to make it easier to copy to the stick. 19:39:55 <barjac> morning MrsB and all :) 19:40:07 <DavidWHodgins> HiYa barjac 19:40:13 <MrsB> why's that Dave? 19:40:17 <lewyssmith> DavidWHodgins: You said that last time, I I said it was a Good Idea. 19:40:32 <MrsB> ohh i see 19:40:59 <DavidWHodgins> MrsB: Someone currently using windows can't mount an iso image, without some third party packages. 19:41:06 <MrsB> that is a good idea, at least for alpha1 which won't have support yet 19:41:09 <DavidWHodgins> s /packages/programs/ 19:41:35 <wilcal> I'm always going to do a new install to a blank hd 19:41:39 <RemyServices> you can mount iso directly since win7 19:41:40 <MrsB> tmb what do you think? 19:41:41 <tmb> DavidWHodgins, well, winrar will happily unpack isos :) 19:41:54 <RemyServices> and can burn with built in options in win8 actually 19:41:57 <Akien> WinRAR is nonfree :-D 19:42:10 <tmb> Akien, so is windows (so far) 19:42:11 <MrsB> ahh so things are changing in the windows world 19:42:13 <DavidWHodgins> Ah. Didn't know that. Haven't been using windows much in the last 3 years. 19:42:29 <lewyssmith> tmb: Good one! 19:42:31 <DavidWHodgins> Or more. 19:42:46 <tmb> but yes, adding a zip file wont hurt much 19:42:46 <wilcal> Every time I have to deal with someones Windows system my blood pressure goes up 20-points 19:42:53 <lewyssmith> Same. 19:42:57 <DavidWHodgins> :-) 19:43:02 <tmb> oh, but it does... 19:43:09 <RemyServices> not for me, send them my way :) 19:43:21 <MrsB> i'll send my mum, she's still on vista 19:43:29 <DavidWHodgins> lol 19:43:31 <lewyssmith> Poor thing. 19:43:40 <MrsB> horrible that is 19:43:42 <dvg> i keep my wife, although she uses windows 19:43:43 <tmb> if I create zip files for all x86_64 it will be 50% more mirroring :) 19:43:51 <MrsB> lol dvg 19:43:53 <RemyServices> im 100% incapable of using my left hand for anything useful, but I'm OS ambidextrous 19:44:19 <lewyssmith> Enough lads & lasses; can we advance? 19:44:20 <tmb> RemyServices, not even scratching your head ? 19:44:24 <DavidWHodgins> tmb: Let's discuss it at the next council meeting. 19:44:42 <RemyServices> tmb: i make it look hard! 19:44:44 <MrsB> yep, let's move on. Is everybody done on this subject? 19:45:05 <wilcal> I'm done 19:45:11 <RemyServices> good here 19:45:16 <MrsB> kthx 19:45:16 * tmb is well done :) 19:45:27 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Testing updates - what looks scary? 19:45:37 <MrsB> dodgy dave \o/ 19:45:55 <lewyssmith> I'm about to launch on MediaWiki; totally new to me. 19:45:58 <wilcal> List is down considerably from last week 19:46:08 <MrsB> it's been rather quiet again, hardly anybody testing any updates 19:46:20 <DavidWHodgins> iodine is one I've never even heard of before. Looks like we should only test that it updates ok, and the server still starts. 19:46:21 <RemyServices> sorry :( 19:46:47 <MrsB> lewis by all means do, diogenese is a mediawiki guru though so he's been testign those lately. I don't think he'd mind help though 19:46:53 <wilcal> I was clamav King this week :-)) 19:47:00 <RemyServices> we are landscaping so my time has been taken, but I hope to try and keep a few tests a week going 19:47:23 <MrsB> i was testing that earlier Dave 19:47:33 <MrsB> yeah clamav.. done 19:47:40 <wilcal> Done whew! 19:47:43 <lewyssmith> iodine is clearde for M4. 19:48:09 <MrsB> Can anybody with mga3 installed and enough space clear please test isodumper 19:48:26 <MrsB> i don't have space on my VM's to make a backup 19:48:47 <MrsB> Luigi12_work: ^^ you too please 19:49:25 <Luigi12_work> guess I'll have to test it at work...ditching mga3 this weekend 19:49:41 <MrsB> job for tomorrow maybe 19:49:54 <Luigi12_work> yeah maybe during the students' final exam 19:50:16 <DavidWHodgins> :-) 19:50:29 <MrsB> just be aware that the backup iso it creates is a full dd of the usb stick, so 8Gb usb stick = 8gb iso 19:50:50 <Luigi12_work> 7.9 G available in /home 19:50:56 <MrsB> 4gb usb stick 19:51:03 <Luigi12_work> ooh I have one 19:51:10 <MrsB> win! 19:51:34 <MrsB> what about samba, does anybody use it for networking? 19:51:50 <MrsB> bug 13579 19:51:50 <DavidWHodgins> I haven't tried isodumper before. Does it insist on making a backup? 19:51:51 <[mbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13579 normal, Normal, qa-bugs, NEW , samba new security issues CVE-2014-0178, CVE-2014-0244, and CVE-2014-3493, samba-3.6.23-1.mga4.src.rpm 19:51:55 <RemyServices> if i get some time in the next day or two i can test that one 19:52:00 <MrsB> no Dave, it's optional 19:52:09 <MrsB> great RemyServices, thanks 19:52:17 <wilcal> Not me I stay away from that tried it a couple times for a Windows user friend and it didn't work for me 19:52:20 <Luigi12_work> note I only have i586, so someone else will have to test isodumper mga3 x86_64 19:52:39 <MrsB> if you can confirm the bugs are fixed with it though Luigi12_work 19:53:12 <RemyServices> i can only do samba for mga4_32 19:53:13 <wilcal> I'll poke around with the isodumper thing. It's not a backup of the installed OS is it? 19:53:36 <MrsB> no wilcal, it dumps ISOs onto usb sticks 19:53:38 <DavidWHodgins> wilcal: No. It's used to copy an iso image to a usb stick. 19:53:46 <RemyServices> i don't have any mga3, i might get some vm's going for it if i can, but not for some time 19:53:48 <MrsB> it offers to backup the usb stick before it dumps to it 19:53:55 <wilcal> Ya that's what I thought it was 19:53:58 <wilcal> rats 19:54:13 <MrsB> one test is better than none RemyServices, thanks 19:54:19 <RemyServices> yup 19:54:29 <MrsB> does anybody use grub2? 19:54:38 <MrsB> bug 12423 19:54:39 <[mbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12423 critical, Normal, qa-bugs, NEW , Upgrading Mga3 (with a manually installed grub2) to Mga4 using urpmi fails to reboot, grub2-2.00-58.mga4 19:54:42 * DavidWHodgins hates grub2 19:54:42 <wilcal> all my systems are Grub2 19:54:45 <lewyssmith> I suppose I do, EFI. 19:54:52 <RemyServices> isn't grub2 the default? 19:54:54 <MrsB> that's one for you then wilcal, there's a nice procedure there too 19:55:00 <DavidWHodgins> RemyServices: Nope 19:55:10 <MrsB> not default yet but an option, same as lilo 19:55:31 <RemyServices> huh, then I will have to check which one i'm using. I might have changed them, i just turn on and come back 19:55:37 <MrsB> i htink it's about time it was default though 19:55:49 <DavidWHodgins> MrsB: Never 19:55:54 <RemyServices> lol 19:56:00 <MrsB> never say never! 19:56:03 <dvg> never 19:56:05 <DavidWHodgins> :-) 19:56:07 <MrsB> booo 19:56:26 <MrsB> So that really only leaves libxfont 19:56:32 <MrsB> bug 13373 19:56:34 <[mbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13373 major, Normal, qa-bugs, NEW , libxfont new security issues CVE-2014-0209, CVE-2014-0210, CVE-2014-0211, libxfont-1.4.8-1.mga5.src.rpm 19:57:06 <Luigi12_work> lewyssmith made a nice test procedure for that 19:57:10 <lewyssmith> That is difficult to understand. But easy if you do. 19:57:14 <RemyServices> sorry, have to get the dogs to the vet, ill try to do samba tonight and secure an efi system the best i can for mga5a1 19:57:17 <MrsB> Lewis did a goo dtest, general testing for that is easy though, install the updates and reboot or restart X and then make sure fonts look normal in various applications 19:57:45 <MrsB> thanks RemyServices Nite. If you can't for mga5a1 then it'd probably be better for a2 anyway 19:57:52 <wilcal> nite remy 19:57:57 <Luigi12_work> yeah, since lewyssmith's test went well, I'm confident that the affected functionality is fine, so other tests could just be general testing 19:58:02 <lewyssmith> Comment 7 makes it more specific. 19:58:06 <MrsB> hope the dog's ok :( 19:58:41 <lewyssmith> I never did understand it, nor do a relevant specific test. Just thrashed around. 19:58:41 <MrsB> really there is nothing there that's very scary this week 19:58:53 <wilcal> why can't we push 19:58:55 <MrsB> most have procedures now 19:58:55 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13428 19:58:56 <[mbot> Bug 13428: normal, Normal, qa-bugs, NEW , update request: removal of X memory leak in Intel video driver, x11-driver-video-intel-2.99.907-2.mga4.src.rpm 19:59:02 <MrsB> we can I think 19:59:13 <wilcal> lets get that one off the list 19:59:17 <MrsB> tmb ok with pushing that one now? 19:59:54 <tmb> MrsB, yes 19:59:58 <DavidWHodgins> Still needs the advisory added to svn. 20:00:06 <MrsB> job for you Dave ;) 20:00:23 <MrsB> could you help wilcal get ssh set up please 20:00:32 <wilcal> yep 20:00:43 <MrsB> hang around after the meeting today wilcal 20:00:47 <Luigi12_work> yeah gotta get wilcal into the advisory uploading game 20:00:53 <MrsB> defo 20:00:57 <lewyssmith> Dave's only 'so-so', Claire. 20:00:57 <MrsB> fo shizzle 20:00:58 <DavidWHodgins> Yes. wilcal Can you stick around after the meeting? 20:01:04 <wilcal> yep 20:01:22 <MrsB> thankyou 20:01:34 <Luigi12_work> I hope to have new ffmpeg builds pushed back to QA early next week 20:01:45 <MrsB> when we're iso testing 20:01:56 <Luigi12_work> maybe tomorrow if we're lucky 20:02:03 <Luigi12_work> really just waiting on upstream to update their security page 20:02:09 <Luigi12_work> I'll ask again tomorrow 20:02:12 <MrsB> wilcal that sounds like one for you maybe with your video skills 20:02:19 <wilcal> I've got a little script program to exercise ffmpeg 20:02:37 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Luigi's Roundup 20:02:41 <Luigi12_work> boo 20:02:43 <wilcal> creates about 20 different format video files 20:02:45 * MrsB loves delegating 20:02:52 <wilcal> Your in charge 20:03:09 <MrsB> Over to you Luigi12_work! 20:04:03 <Luigi12_work> so Luc e-mailed about the KDE update for mga4, which will include at least one security fix. It's just about ready to push to SVN and build, and it's updating from 4.11.2 to 4.12.5. He wanted feedback from DavidWHodgins, MrsB, and wilcal to know if there were any objections before he pushed it 20:04:48 <DavidWHodgins> No objection here. 20:05:08 <MrsB> None now 4.1 is released, it might have to wait until after alpha1 is out before we can drop onto testing it though 20:05:09 <wilcal> no problem her 20:05:12 <wilcal> here 20:05:15 <Luigi12_work> IIRC we discussed it before and there werne't any objections, so please make sure to respond to his e-mail 20:05:32 <DavidWHodgins> On which list? 20:05:33 <Luigi12_work> there's a new CVE for Libreoffice. Not sure when tv plans on updating that. 20:05:37 <MrsB> which email? 20:05:42 <Luigi12_work> DavidWHodgins: not on a mailing list, he sent the e-mail directly. 20:05:56 <lewyssmith> To whom? 20:05:59 <MrsB> ohh right, just tonight yes 20:06:00 <Luigi12_work> just went to us 4, and he CC'd neoclust 20:06:20 <MrsB> since the metting started in fact 20:06:20 <philippem> will try to work on Python CVE next week end 20:06:37 <Luigi12_work> there's two CVEs for Python, so philippem just covered that one :o) 20:06:40 <MrsB> #action MrsB to email Luc about KDE 20:06:57 <Luigi12_work> there's a UPNP issue with libtorrent-rasterbar. It's patched in Cauldron. Waiting on matteo to backport it for mga3/mga4, also waiting on a CVE assignment. 20:07:18 <Luigi12_work> also a CVE in castor, some Java package. I guess I'll have to deal with it at some point. 20:07:20 <MrsB> #info libreoffice and KDE and python updates coming soon 20:07:35 <MrsB> not come across that one before 20:07:52 <Luigi12_work> that's all that's new since last week's meeting. Also PHP updated the 5.5 branch today. Hoping 5.4 update will come soon too so we can push the next PHP updates to QA (fixing several CVEs) 20:07:54 <DavidWHodgins> Luigi12_work: I don't have anything in my inbox about kde. I'll check to see if gmail put it in the spam filter. 20:08:41 <MrsB> #info also libtorrent-rasterbar (new to QA) castor (also new IINM) and some java stuff coming soon 20:08:49 <DavidWHodgins> Ah. It's still in the online inbox, from about 6 minutes ago. 20:08:52 <Luigi12_work> castor is the Java stuff, just to be clear 20:09:03 <MrsB> #info castor IS the java stuff 20:09:10 <MrsB> also new to QA 20:09:45 <MrsB> so just kde, LO and loads of stuff we've never heard of before then 20:09:50 <Luigi12_work> that's all I have 20:09:56 <Luigi12_work> any questions? 20:10:12 <DavidWHodgins> Not here 20:10:19 <MrsB> #info php too coming soon 20:10:26 <MrsB> thanks Luigi12_work 20:10:29 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Anything else? 20:10:29 <tmb> and there will be full sets of new kernels landing too .... 20:10:33 <lewyssmith> Seconded. 20:10:42 <Luigi12_work> yay more kernels 20:10:43 <MrsB> tmb! 20:10:58 <MrsB> #info AND yet more new kernels 20:11:00 * Luigi12_work wonders when we'll have ksplice/kgraft/kpatch 20:11:01 <wilcal> Good thing there are lots of sports on TV in the next weeks 20:11:14 <MrsB> all this and alpha1? 20:11:25 <tmb> yeah, more CVEs fixed, and tho "other" kernels has not been fixed for the critical issues yet... 20:11:36 <lewyssmith> And it's the fruit season. 20:11:39 <wilcal> Takes me a good 2-days to go through kernel testing hardware & Vbox 20:11:45 <MrsB> did you discover what caused the issues for people with dkms? 20:13:09 <tmb> MrsB, well its a timing issue we dont have pinned yet, and I haven't been able to reproduce yet :( 20:13:25 <MrsB> seemed mostly related to the server kernel 20:14:20 <MrsB> bug 13547 20:14:21 <[mbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13547 normal, Normal, bugsquad, NEW , After update to kernel server 3.12.21-1.mga4 system hangs during boot 20:16:13 <lewyssmith> I'm off. Goodbye everyone. 20:16:50 <MrsB> can't find the forum topic now 20:16:54 <MrsB> nite lewis 20:17:04 <MrsB> Is there anything else ? 20:17:11 <wilcal> not here 20:17:41 <tmb> yeah, I've seen the reports, but I need a reproducer to be able to fix it 20:17:41 <MrsB> So we have lots to do as always 20:18:08 <MrsB> DavidWHodgins: anythign else? 20:18:13 <DavidWHodgins> Not here 20:18:19 <MrsB> T - 5 then 20:18:26 <MrsB> Thanks for coming :) 20:18:28 <MrsB> 4 20:18:29 <MrsB> 3 20:18:31 <MrsB> 2 20:18:32 <MrsB> 1 20:18:35 <MrsB> #endmeeting