19:07:24 <papoteur_> #startmeeting
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19:07:52 <papoteur_> #chair lebarhon apb Kernewes yurchor Jybz
19:07:52 <Inigo_Montoya`> Current chairs: Jybz Kernewes apb lebarhon papoteur_ yurchor
19:08:26 <papoteur_> I'm happy to meet you today.
19:09:00 <papoteur_> #topic CJK fonts
19:09:50 <lebarhon> What does CJK stand for ?
19:10:17 <papoteur_> yurchor dealt with the help of camil publications in Japanese and Chinese of PDF
19:10:18 <yurchor> lebarhon: Chinese, Japanese, Korean
19:10:22 <Kernewes> lebarhon: I'm glad you asked that :)
19:10:41 <apb> Kernewes: me too :)
19:11:31 <Kernewes> yurchor: thank you
19:11:32 <papoteur_> this needs to choice a specific stylesheet for the publication.
19:13:34 <papoteur_> we have to note that in the wiki
19:13:45 <yurchor> Ok.
19:14:01 * papoteur_ doesn't find anymore the page
19:14:24 <yurchor> I will write down the procedure by the next weekend.
19:14:38 <papoteur_> yurchor: you're welcome
19:15:14 <papoteur_> #topic calenco documentation revision (antony work)
19:15:16 <lebarhon> this one ? https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Calenco_publications
19:15:35 <yurchor> lebarhon: Thanks.
19:15:40 <papoteur_> lebarhon: yes, thanks
19:16:21 <papoteur_> apb: I think it's your turn ;)
19:16:35 <lebarhon> action ?
19:17:31 <papoteur_> #action ? yurchor report procedure for CJK publication in https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Calenco_publications
19:17:56 <lebarhon> thanks yurchor
19:20:00 <apb> Oh, sorry. I don't really have anything specific. I just await feedback/instructions etc.
19:20:01 <papoteur_> apb worked on Netinstall manual
19:20:21 <lebarhon> apb did a great job
19:20:54 <papoteur_> some info are reported here: https://annuel2.framapad.org/p/GsDj9uR2Br
19:20:55 <[mbot> [ Framapad annuel ]
19:21:41 <apb> lebarhon: Thanks - I have been quite worried in case I was going the wrong way.
19:22:20 <yurchor> Great job.
19:22:27 <lebarhon> the wrong way about what ? bootIso/NetInstall ?
19:23:01 <apb> Just generally ....
19:23:20 <lebarhon> No it's great
19:23:52 <apb> Phew! A relief for sure.
19:24:14 <papoteur_> I wonder why the bootiso.xml needs to come in Netinstall.xml?
19:24:36 <lebarhon> Just one thing about Installer/Live, could you add the uninstall section
19:24:48 <lebarhon> https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Docteam_meeting_agenda_submissions
19:24:48 <papoteur_> I didn't look for now to understand
19:24:49 <apb> papoteur_: In the first place?
19:24:51 <lebarhon> line 13
19:25:21 <apb> papoteur_: ok.
19:27:15 <apb> lebarhon: Me? If so, I will have a look at it later.
19:27:37 <lebarhon> I was asked last time to do a poll
19:27:53 <lebarhon> Only Lewis answered
19:27:57 <papoteur_> All or manual xml file are only container. Netinstall is shorter, of course
19:28:35 <lebarhon> apb: yes later, when you can, it is for Mageia 7
19:28:49 <apb> lebarhon: Ok.
19:28:54 <lebarhon> Thanks
19:29:30 <papoteur_> apb: lebarhon: isn't just adding an include?
19:30:09 <lebarhon> it is to add in the section "Uninstalling" what Lewis said in the UEFI mode
19:30:09 <apb> papoteur_: for?
19:30:38 <papoteur_> apb: for uninstall section
19:30:50 <lebarhon> not an include, it is text
19:31:07 <apb> Ah. As per lebarhon
19:31:13 <papoteur_> lebarhon: sorry, OK
19:31:59 <lebarhon> is it clear for all ?
19:32:12 <lebarhon> sorry if I am confusing
19:32:56 <papoteur_> lebarhon: no, it's clear.
19:33:53 <papoteur_> #action uninstall section is to rewrite with UEFI in mind
19:34:53 <lebarhon> and Lewis proposal
19:35:11 <papoteur_> #undo
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19:35:30 <papoteur_> #action uninstall section is to rewrite with UEFI in mind and Lewis proposal
19:35:55 <lebarhon> it was not worth a redo :)
19:36:08 <papoteur_> ;)
19:37:41 <papoteur_> something else on this topic?
19:38:16 <yurchor> papoteur_: Can I sync the stable docs translations with Calenco?
19:39:04 <papoteur_> yurchor: what do you mean with stable docs?
19:39:56 <yurchor> papoteur_: Docs in /workspaces/Documentation/content/en/
19:40:13 <yurchor> papoteur_: And docs in git
19:41:45 <papoteur_> yurchor: I think that this can be do in Documentation space
19:42:16 <papoteur_> knowing that Antony is working in Mga7 space
19:43:32 <yurchor> Ok. Thanks.
19:43:43 <lebarhon> Which space(s) are in Tx ?
19:44:14 <papoteur_> yurchor: do you mean then that we have to publish them on website?
19:44:27 <yurchor> I will split the doc translations into stable and trunk branches as soon as you give me a sign. ;)
19:45:06 <yurchor> lebarhon: No spaces on Tx. They will be split by categories.
19:45:28 <yurchor> papoteur_: Not yet. But we should for 6.1.
19:46:33 <lebarhon> yurchor: if I do translations in TX, are they for Mag 6 or 7 ?
19:48:16 <yurchor> lebarhon: If you will translate "Stable Documentation" (not yet created) category, then it will be stable docs. For "Unstable Documentation" it will be unstable.
19:48:55 <lebarhon> Ok yurchor, thanks
19:49:56 <papoteur_> do we need the unstable branch in transifex ?
19:50:57 <yurchor> papoteur_: It would be convenient to have it. KDE has it, GNOME has it, Ubuntu has it...
19:50:59 <papoteur_> I don't think so for the moment.
19:51:38 <yurchor> papoteur_: Maybe not now. But in future.
19:51:53 <lebarhon> what is the use of a non translated branch ?
19:52:15 <papoteur_> yurchor: yes for the future
19:53:11 <papoteur_> other thing on this topic?
19:53:55 <apb> Seeing as the changes to the Installer manuals seem to be generally acceptable so far, I would like to go back through and tidy up a few loose ends. Does anyone have any particular suggestions/criticism for me to bear in mind?
19:54:52 <lebarhon> may be we should decide which styles to use
19:55:18 <lebarhon> Italic, bold, ..
19:55:46 <lebarhon> I started a suggestion in the pad
19:56:52 <apb> lebarhon: People could look/think about in meantime, and revisit this in the pad?
19:57:35 <lebarhon> of course
19:57:48 <apb> Oki.
19:58:11 <apb> Any thoughts on MCC?
19:59:01 <lebarhon> it swas also line 10 in the agenda_submissions
19:59:40 <apb> I can have a look at the wording in MCC. I wont bash it about :)
19:59:41 <lebarhon> rewording "Enter a user" was refused
20:00:24 <lebarhon> and also disable the graphic test tool, it is working most of the time
20:02:21 <papoteur_> lebarhon: I recognyze that I didn't use it for a while.
20:03:57 <lebarhon> next topic ?
20:04:05 <apb> Sorry to break in - I will have to go in a minute. Any plans for regular meetings?
20:04:46 <lebarhon> I think once a month is convenient
20:04:50 <apb> Yes
20:04:52 <papoteur_> yes
20:05:16 <papoteur_> first monday of the month?
20:05:23 <lebarhon> once a month or more according to the topics
20:05:31 <papoteur_> easier to remember?
20:05:41 <lebarhon> alzheimer ?
20:05:51 <apb> lebarhon: yes
20:05:51 <papoteur_> :D
20:05:55 <apb> papoteur_: yes
20:06:34 <lebarhon> today isn't a frst monday
20:06:43 <papoteur_> #info meetings will occur on first monday each month
20:06:50 <papoteur_> #topic elections
20:07:09 <papoteur_> we have one week for elections
20:07:36 <lebarhon> who is candidate ?
20:07:45 <papoteur_> who are candidate? Who have two places, for what I know.
20:08:11 <papoteur_> I'm candidate for my actual place.
20:08:39 <apb> Ruling myself out, of course.
20:09:02 <lebarhon> apb: what do tou mean ?
20:09:09 <lebarhon> *you
20:09:29 <papoteur_> apb: you can candidate...
20:09:36 <apb> lebarhon: Not suitable.
20:10:09 <lebarhon> I don't yhink so, you are fluent in English and you are good at computing
20:11:12 <apb> But not communicating. Thanks anyway.
20:12:07 <apb> I have to go now - sorry. Thanks all. See you next meeting.
20:12:07 <lebarhon> like most of us
20:12:32 <papoteur_> lebarhon: and you? You was also at the place?
20:13:16 <apb> Night all. I'll read the rest of this later.
20:13:19 <papoteur_> apb: thanks. Good night
20:13:27 <Kernewes> apb: Good night
20:13:30 <Jybz> Good night apb
20:13:53 <apb> Night.
20:14:19 <lebarhon> I have 3 problems. Not fluent in English and i don't know much at computing. I often believe that Yurchor is speaking Ukrainian
20:14:37 <Kernewes> lebarhon: well, I disagree with that
20:14:45 <yurchor> :)
20:15:02 <papoteur_> lebarhon: me too ;)
20:15:12 <lebarhon> And now a third problem, I can't bear the news screens with led backlighting
20:15:37 <Kernewes> lebarhon: news screens?
20:15:40 <lebarhon> papoteur_: you are a lot better in computing
20:17:08 <yurchor> Journal editors keep telling me that my English is awful... So you are right.
20:17:26 <Kernewes> yurchor: what's wrong with your English?
20:17:31 <lebarhon> Yes led backlighting give me lot of tears and then migraines.
20:18:14 <Kernewes> lebarhon: what have news screen got to do with Mga docs?
20:18:19 <yurchor> Kernewes: Common mistakes. I'm writing Ukrainian phrases in English. :'(
20:18:49 <Kernewes> yurchor: but your English is fine for communicating in Mageia
20:19:24 <lebarhon> Kernewes: I can't work on a screen more than 30 mn
20:19:36 <Kernewes> lebarhon: :(
20:19:55 <lebarhon> For this meeting I use an old screen
20:20:11 <lebarhon> a small one 17 "
20:20:27 <Kernewes> lebarhon: does that mean you don't want to be a candidate this time?
20:21:14 <lebarhon> I can be a deputy, but if somebody else agree for the job, I prefer.
20:21:42 <Kernewes> lebarhon: I think things are fine with papoteur as leader and you as deputy
20:22:00 <papoteur_> lebarhon: I will be happy if you still be candidate. And you can see there is no other candidate.
20:22:26 <lebarhon> I though I could rely on apb
20:22:44 <Kernewes> Simon isn't here, I wonder if he'd be willing
20:22:45 <lebarhon> I hope Oled screens will arrive soon
20:24:12 <papoteur_> we see that apb will not be candidate. Perhaps next year ;)
20:24:33 <lebarhon> Wait and see
20:25:50 <papoteur_> lebarhon: thus, I understood that you are candidate, because there is nobody else.
20:27:17 <lebarhon> Yes
20:27:17 <Kernewes> You are both the only candidates
20:28:21 <lebarhon> Congrulations papoteur_
20:28:30 <Kernewes> congratulations to both of you
20:28:53 <lebarhon> Thanks, champagne
20:28:59 <Kernewes> :)
20:29:09 <papoteur_> Champagne o/
20:29:28 <yurchor> :)
20:31:07 <papoteur_> I think it is not necessary to have formal votes, isn't it?
20:31:21 <Kernewes> I agree
20:31:49 <lebarhon> no, it is a soviet election !
20:31:59 <Kernewes> I think you two have the support of the team members
20:32:18 <yurchor> +1
20:32:43 <lebarhon> We will do our best
20:32:53 <Kernewes> You both do very well
20:33:03 <papoteur_> lebarhon is right, trolls are not away, thus we have to keep the rules.
20:33:33 <papoteur_> Thanks for your support
20:33:41 <Kernewes> well, probably, but I'm sure there won't be a problem
20:34:25 <papoteur_> Kernewes: surely.
20:35:19 <papoteur_> We will take some days for the election on ML. What is the due day?
20:35:52 <Jybz> Congratulations you both, I can't stay, have a good night all, bye
20:36:06 <Kernewes> Sorry, but I have to go now.  If I don't manage to post on the ML, take this conversation as my vote.
20:36:19 <papoteur_> Jybz: good night. See you soon
20:36:22 <Kernewes> Goodnight, everyone
20:36:45 <yurchor> Goodnight.
20:36:47 <lebarhon> goodnight all, I thing the meeting is over
20:37:05 <papoteur_> Good night all
20:37:10 <papoteur_> #endmeeting