20:06:52 <ennael> #startmeeting 20:06:52 <Inigo_Montoya> Meeting started Tue Feb 5 20:06:52 2013 UTC. The chair is ennael. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:06:52 <Inigo_Montoya> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 20:06:53 <Luigi12_work> mitya: please check your bugs 20:07:12 <ennael> #topic release critical bugs review for Mageia 3 20:07:51 <ennael> ok 20:07:58 <ennael> tmb: you will be the first victim :) 20:08:01 <ennael> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7992 20:08:03 <[mbot> [ Bug 7992 Live Installer progress bar starts 80% finished or missing completely in kde ] 20:08:38 <ennael> did you have time to have a look ? 20:08:43 <tmb> yeah, haven't had time to look at that one yet :/ 20:08:52 <ennael> ok 20:09:02 <ennael> second is https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7311 20:09:04 <[mbot> [ Bug 7311 lot of firmwares are missing ] 20:10:33 <ryoshu> hi 20:10:58 <tmb> yeah, some of those are would be nice to track down, and check license on, but they are not in upstream linux-firmware tree 20:11:47 <ennael> can somebody help on that ? 20:11:49 <tmb> and some are not needed as the drivers lists several working firmwares, and for some we already have atleast one fw available 20:12:09 <ennael> maybe somebody can check those points 20:12:19 <ennael> I can help on it if you want 20:12:25 <ennael> check if we have it and license 20:12:34 <tmb> well, anyone that can find pointers to those firmware files, it would help... 20:12:40 <ennael> ok I'll do it 20:13:42 <tmb> iirc the b43 ones does need the fw-cutter as they have licensing that sucks... 20:14:00 <ennael> yep 20:14:45 <ennael> and finally for tmb https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8355 20:14:47 <[mbot> [ Bug 8355 Live gnome isos desktop icons for install/join the community have ugly boxes ] 20:15:16 <ennael> maybe olav can help on this 20:15:39 <tmb> yep, gnome changes the way to add icons on desktop for every release, so we need to find how to do it cleanly now... 20:15:48 <MrsB> tmb it would be good if ivtv-firmware could be added there too 20:16:10 <ennael> tmb: ok I will ping him on that one 20:17:21 <tmb> MrsB: Yeah, I saw that report... it's mostly a check of mdv rpm + licensing and maybe updated fw files... will try to get to it this week... 20:17:43 <MrsB> thankyou :) 20:20:18 <ennael> blino: if you are around https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8699 20:20:21 <[mbot> [ Bug 8699 after 3beta2 install, shorewall blocks using WLAN ] 20:21:59 <ennael> we need an answer for this one https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8462 20:22:01 <[mbot> [ Bug 8462 draklive-install crashed (no mbr selection for grub2 or gpt use) ] 20:26:07 <AL13N> tmb: i think you need several capable minions to offload your own tasks to... just saying 20:26:42 <barjac> I have commented on this in various reports - as far I can see it needs to do nothing rather than try to 'install to a partition' 20:27:01 <MrsB> s/saying/volunteering/ 20:28:19 <tmb> maybe I should drop grub2 from livecds... and add in release notes that online medias must be added for grub2 install to work... until installer really knows how to handle grub2 20:28:19 <ennael> pterjan: ping ? 20:28:53 <MrsB> that's bound to generate complaints tmb :\ 20:29:00 <ennael> ? 20:29:04 <barjac> tmb: yes - it's broken in the Live install 20:29:26 <MrsB> people don't read release notes 20:29:41 <ennael> well there is not much choice 20:30:00 <ennael> we cannot not also do everything at their own place 20:30:36 <tmb> barjac, yes .. grub2 refuses to install properly during livecd creation in chroot... 20:31:32 <AL13N> is it the installer or grub2-in-a-chroot that fails? 20:31:55 <AL13N> how come the DVD installer is not affected? 20:33:33 <tmb> I wonder if it would be best to add a small "additional rpm install media" on the livecds, so installer would have needed rpms available even without online medias, but not installed on live image by default" 20:35:01 <MrsB> it would be a better solution imho 20:35:04 <leuhmanu> or we should completly drop grub2 support 20:35:22 <leuhmanu> s/support/integration 20:35:22 <tmb> :) 20:35:35 <leuhmanu> see the tracker with all thz bugs 20:35:51 <leuhmanu> and some bugs are not yet added in the list 20:36:19 <AL13N> grub2 has this many bugs? 20:36:20 <leuhmanu> or we fix them, or we drop the feature 20:36:27 <leuhmanu> the integration 20:36:29 <barjac> leuhmanu: Well no one with the capability seems interested in fixing the integration 20:36:37 <leuhmanu> barjac: that is it 20:36:49 <leuhmanu> do we one something buggy or not 20:36:56 <leuhmanu> s/one/want 20:37:19 <AL13N> rejecting partition by just doing a popup or something should be doable, no? 20:37:24 <AL13N> but i donno how to install it then 20:37:33 <leuhmanu> it's not only that 20:37:34 <AL13N> or if you select a partition nothing happens? 20:37:45 <barjac> leuhmanu: I have done all I can - grub2 is not buggy - it's just not handled correctlt by our tools 20:37:51 <ennael> let me mail tv on this and give him this choice 20:37:53 <AL13N> leuhmanu: what else? 20:38:01 <leuhmanu> barjac: 'integration' yes 20:38:05 <AL13N> leuhmanu: is there a tracker for grub2? 20:38:06 <leuhmanu> ,bug 416 20:38:08 <[mbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=416 normal, Normal, bugsquad, bugsquad, REOPENED, [Tracker] Integration of grub2 in Mageia 3 20:38:32 <AL13N> 10 bugs! 20:38:33 <AL13N> wtf 20:38:37 <ennael> #action ennael will mail tv about grub2 integration so that we can take a decision before end of this week 20:38:37 <leuhmanu> more 20:38:49 <ennael> AL13N: no need to say that unless you want to help 20:39:11 <MrsB> djennings might do 20:39:15 <AL13N> ennael: well, i might wanted to help, but 10 issues is way too much 20:39:30 <AL13N> ennael: maybe it would be better to go back to grub1 after all 20:39:39 <ennael> MrsB: yep will add him to this mail 20:39:45 <ennael> neoclust: https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8354 20:39:47 <[mbot> [ Bug 8354 Apper installed on KDE live isos but cannot talk to packagekitd ] 20:39:50 <ennael> any idea on that one ? 20:40:14 <leuhmanu> (AL13N: it is not yet as default, so there is "no go back") 20:40:28 <leuhmanu> (+no) 20:40:30 <AL13N> leuhmanu: go back to remove 20:41:31 <AL13N> i would be fine to remove apper 20:41:34 <neoclust> ennael: let me look 20:42:11 <neoclust> ennael: i will install a LiveCD to test, seems like a missing deps 20:42:29 <leuhmanu> see the last comment 20:42:50 <neoclust> leuhmanu: i can look to disable too yes 20:43:21 <neoclust> leuhmanu: i will look how this works and see with liveCD ppl then how to do on live 20:43:32 <ennael> if there is a pb with deps it would be fine to check it but disable it for live cds if it takes too much room on CD 20:43:32 <leuhmanu> (or if someone know how to disable pkgkit) 20:45:20 <ennael> coling: around ? 20:45:34 <tmb> neoclust: it's the pkgkit stuff that pulls apper, as otherwise it would pull a lot of gnome on kde isos 20:45:53 <tmb> ennael: coling responded to meeting mail about not being available 20:46:02 <ennael> oups I forgot this thanks 20:46:14 <leuhmanu> pkgkit is usefull, but not in live mode 20:46:40 <AL13N> i had apper in a test beta for mga2, and it's confusing with apper and mgaaplet at the same time, i would prefer not to have apper installed by default 20:46:51 <leuhmanu> (or the things that check updates) 20:47:14 <DavidWHodgins> Back on grub2 for a second. Looks like it should have a requires on mageia-theme-Default, to ensure that gets installed before it, as it needs access to /usr/share/mga/backgrounds/Mageia-Default-1280x1024.png 20:47:56 <Kharec> hi guys 20:48:00 <tmb> DavidWHodgins: that means also Requires(pre) for install ordering 20:48:19 <Luigi12_work> no it shouldn't 20:48:24 <Luigi12_work> unless there's a dependency loop 20:48:41 <Luigi12_work> Requires(pre) means something is needed for a %pre script, it's not for ordering 20:48:43 <leuhmanu> remember minimal install too 20:49:10 <DavidWHodgins> Just looking at "rpm -q --scripts grub2", to see if there's any obvious reason for it to fail to install in the live cd creation chroot. That's the only thing I can see, that might go wrong. 20:50:01 <barjac> leuhmanu: been working on trying to split theme into separate package to avoid minimal install problems 20:51:14 <leuhmanu> (but this is off topic :D) 20:51:46 <barjac> DavidWHodgins: os-prober was Require but I recently made it Suggests - now there are install ordering issues 20:51:49 <tmb> Luigi12_work: Requires only ensures it gets in same transaction, not necessarily before grub2 tries to access the file... 20:52:09 <ennael> barjac: I had to add it in bcd packages list 20:52:11 <Luigi12_work> tmb: no, it affects ordering too, from jbj himself 20:52:27 <Luigi12_work> tmb: Requires(pre) != PreReq (long since deprecated), common misconception 20:53:12 <barjac> tmb: How can I make Suggests load before main package? 20:53:14 <tmb> Luigi12_work: well, we are not following jbj stuff, we need it for urpmi transaction ordering 20:53:31 <Luigi12_work> tmb: not specific to "jbj stuff," true for rpm4 as well 20:54:48 <tmb> Luigi12_work: for only a Requires:, grub2 would need to do all stuff in %posttrans 20:55:15 <Luigi12_work> again, unless there's a dependency loop, that shouldn't be true 20:56:32 <barjac> tmb: Hmm I tried that and it didn't work - I'll try to catch you after meeting ;) 20:57:58 <tmb> Luigi12: and as I stated we are following installer/urpmi rules... Requires is and has always been "in same transaction only"... 20:58:53 <Luigi12_work> https://ml.mandriva.com/wws/arc/cooker/2012-02/msg00152.html 20:58:54 <[mbot> [ cooker - Cooker Developers List. - arc_protect ] 20:59:04 <tmb> barjac: you cant force anything regarding Suggests... thats why its "suggest" 21:00:42 <AL13N> but, the triggers run after a transaction 21:00:55 <AL13N> this stuff should be in a trigger anyway 21:01:09 <anaselli> tmb: i found RTL8192U in a link pointed into http://aptosid.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&p=10544 21:01:10 <[mbot> [ View topic - [SOLVED] Realtek driver for Belkin n300 USB wireless :: aptosid.com :: aptosid - Debian hot and spicy! ] 21:01:42 * tmb sighs.... urpmi does not care what jbj says.... never has... never will ... 21:02:07 <ennael> :) 21:02:32 <ennael> ok one about logs system 21:02:32 <ennael> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8039 21:02:34 <[mbot> [ Bug 8039 [Tracker] bugs related the change of logs system ( journalctl vs rsyslog) ] 21:02:36 <Luigi12_work> urpmi just uses perl-URPM which uses rpm libraries 21:03:20 <DavidWHodgins> Is there a way to get journalctl output on tty12? 21:03:28 <ennael> this tracker is release critical but none of the bugs inside are 21:05:32 <ennael> leuhmanu: is there a specific reason ? 21:05:34 <tmb> DavidWHodgins: nope, thats a (r)syslog(-ng) thingie 21:06:02 <tmb> but those that want it can install rsyslog alongside journald 21:06:44 <tmb> ennael: I think the thing to decide is should we upgrade or obsolete rsyslog during upgrade ? 21:07:03 <tmb> ennael: if we upgrade, you need to make sure rsyslog is on isos 21:07:18 <ennael> if we decide not to obsolete it 21:07:50 <leuhmanu> ennael: sorry all 'my' tracker are release_blocker 21:07:58 * DavidWHodgins votes to keep it, as I often use tty12. 21:08:03 <leuhmanu> why not fix a bug if there is a patch ? 21:08:14 <ennael> just needs review 21:08:26 <tmb> leuhmanu: what patch ? 21:08:33 <ennael> there is one for logdrake 21:09:31 <tmb> ah I see it now 21:10:15 <ennael> I've asked dmorgan if he can have a look on the patch otherwise I will ask pterjan or blino 21:10:26 <ennael> (now I'm sure they will not speak tonight :p) 21:11:35 <ennael> ok patch is being reviewed by dmorgan 21:11:52 <tmb> nice... 21:12:28 <ennael> then we need to decide about obsolete or not rsyslog 21:12:37 <ennael> a mail on -dev ? 21:13:48 <AL13N> Luigi12_work: yes, but urpmi does it's own dependency handling, not the rpm one 21:13:49 <ryoshu> I am for obsoleting it, but a mail is needed 21:14:04 <AL13N> oops, i'm seriously lagging 21:14:45 <tmb> and with properly versioned obsolete, so people can install it if they decide they want/need it... 21:15:03 <ennael> ok somebody to do it ? 21:15:12 <Luigi12_work> I would think that would be pretty undesirable to rip rsyslog off people's systems 21:15:23 * DavidWHodgins too 21:15:34 <AL13N> rsyslog does UDP syslog, journald doesn't 21:15:38 <Luigi12_work> the journal thing provides syslog so it's all that gets installed by default and you can remove rsyslog if you want 21:15:40 <AL13N> i heard it from lennart in his talk 21:15:45 <DavidWHodgins> A lot of people use scripts to parse the log files. 21:15:49 <Luigi12_work> having it obsolete rsyslog would be pointless and undesirable 21:15:57 <AL13N> fail2ban would stop working for instance 21:16:18 * MrsB agrees 21:16:29 <Luigi12_work> AL13N: if urpmi doesn't follow rpm's rules for ordering, that's a serious bug that needs to be fixed 21:16:30 <AL13N> lennart even said it would likely be desirable for distro's to keep rsyslog or syslog-ng installed as default 21:16:40 <Luigi12_work> AL13N: but I don't believe it really does it on its own 21:16:47 <AL13N> Luigi12_work: no, that's by design 21:16:54 <ennael> please guys 21:17:00 <ennael> stay in current topic 21:17:36 <Luigi12_work> I don't remember coling ever saying anything about obsoleting rsyslog 21:17:43 <Luigi12_work> where did this come from all of a sudden anyway? 21:17:50 <ennael> ok will send a mail on -dev anyway to make things clear 21:18:20 <DavidWHodgins> Luigi12_work: Started as discussion about whether it should be on iso images. 21:18:25 <Luigi12_work> seems pointless, I don't see any benefit 21:18:27 <Luigi12_work> DavidWHodgins: ahh 21:18:46 <AL13N> it likely should for now 21:18:54 <ennael> okok I'll mail -dev 21:19:43 <DavidWHodgins> On my tests, it's usually one of the first things I add, after installation, so I can use tty12. 21:20:00 <ennael> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6954 21:20:02 <[mbot> [ Bug 6954 [Tracker] all bugs relating to the new ( or not ) apache 2.4 ] 21:20:15 <ennael> again it should not be release critical 21:20:22 <ennael> still fixing most issues would be nice 21:21:01 <pterjan> some modules got quite broken 21:21:07 <pterjan> like mod perl 21:21:17 <ryoshu> ennael: well in my opinion this shall be critical for qa, as not only a system for desktop 21:21:33 <ennael> pterjan: ? 21:21:40 <ennael> pterjan: about what bug ? :) 21:21:45 <pterjan> ennael: with the new apache 21:21:47 <ryoshu> php is broken too 21:21:47 <ennael> ah :) 21:21:56 <Luigi12_work> ryoshu: how? 21:22:13 <ryoshu> Luigi12_work: it core dumps for me and a friend of mine, in a default installation 21:22:26 <Luigi12_work> strange, works for me 21:22:45 <AL13N> would it be an issue to keep 2.2? 21:22:45 <ennael> pterjan: is there a bug report about it ? 21:23:20 <pterjan> ennael: not sure :( 21:23:29 <pterjan> I can create one 21:23:33 <Luigi12_work> AL13N: not sure how much longer 2.2 is supported upstream 21:23:34 <pterjan> fedora has many patches 21:23:44 * pterjan in bed with fever currently 21:23:50 <MrsB> :( 21:24:03 <MrsB> get well soon 21:24:11 <AL13N> Luigi12_work: didn't they stop supporting 2.0 not that long ago? 21:24:15 <AL13N> like a few months? 21:24:18 <Luigi12_work> dunno 21:24:29 <ennael> pterjan: thanks. go to bed now :) 21:24:30 <AL13N> to me, it would seem like they would likely support 2.2 for a while 21:24:38 <Luigi12_work> plus 2.2 is harder for us to support for much longer if fedora doesn't have it and mdv is dead soon 21:24:44 <neoclust> Luigi12_work: 2.2 should be supported a long time 21:24:56 <neoclust> Luigi12_work: MDV Dead soon ? 21:24:58 <neoclust> Luigi12_work: MDV ? 21:25:05 <neoclust> Luigi12_work: don't mix things 21:25:05 <ryoshu> Luigi12_work: at least it (the PHP issue) was with wordpress 21:25:08 <Luigi12_work> neoclust: yes, 2011 goes out of support this month if I heard right 21:25:10 <neoclust> openmandriva isn't mandriva 21:25:14 <neoclust> Luigi12_work: and MBS ? 21:25:31 <AL13N> neoclust: ok, he meant openmandriva, we all know this 21:25:36 <Luigi12_work> neoclust: MBS isn't out yet, doesn't have a public SVN, and I don't know which apache version it will have 21:25:46 <neoclust> Luigi12_work: can't you ask ? 21:25:52 <neoclust> is asking a question hard ? 21:25:53 <leuhmanu> please 21:26:02 <neoclust> we use apache 2.2 21:26:09 <Luigi12_work> AL13N: I did not mean openmandriva 21:26:35 <ryoshu> is the meeting still present? 21:26:41 <AL13N> ok, ok, ... time to get back to topic 21:26:48 <neoclust> Luigi12_work: so MANDRIVA use apache 2.2 for his next release 21:26:48 <Luigi12_work> our apache 2.2 package in Mageia 1 and 2 synchs changes with Mandriva 2011 21:26:51 <ennael> well apache topic 21:26:56 <Luigi12_work> I'm the one that does all the updates for it 21:27:02 <ennael> we need people to work on it 21:27:08 <Luigi12_work> so if I don't have oden's changes to sync from, further updates will be much more difficult 21:27:10 <AL13N> :maint apache2 21:27:13 <Sophie> AL13N: There is no rpm named `apache2' in (Mageia, cauldron, i586), but the word matches in Alt, Mdv, Suse 21:27:20 <ennael> at least for directives that have been changed 21:27:29 <ennael> that can be done by anybody 21:27:42 <ennael> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6954 21:27:43 <Luigi12_work> and the package fixes for apache 2.4 aren't that hard anyway 21:27:44 <[mbot> [ Bug 6954 [Tracker] all bugs relating to the new ( or not ) apache 2.4 ] 21:27:54 <ennael> oups 21:28:01 <AL13N> ennael: shouldn't we postpone the directive changes until we decide if we go 2.4 or not? 21:28:06 <ennael> mmmm yes that one 21:28:13 <Luigi12_work> we already have 2.4 21:28:27 <Luigi12_work> since several months 21:28:28 <ennael> please guys can we stay on track ? 21:28:34 <neoclust> yes would be nice :) 21:28:42 <Luigi12_work> then can we please stop talking about reverting to 2.2? 21:28:43 <neoclust> ennael: yes would be nice :) 21:28:43 <ennael> this will be the last subject for tonight 21:28:52 <AL13N> ok, fine 21:29:12 <ennael> so we need volunteers to fix existing configurations for web apps 21:29:24 <AL13N> i'll fix at least urpmi-proxy 21:29:31 <AL13N> can someone send an email to -dev ? 21:29:43 <neoclust> ennael: can we have a list of broken one ? 21:29:49 <neoclust> of do we need to look one by one ? 21:29:58 <AL13N> perhaps one of those rules can be set on buildsystem? 21:30:02 <Luigi12_work> the list should be the depends of bug 6954 21:30:06 <pterjan> we can try to find packages with files in the wrong place 21:30:08 <Luigi12_work> the needed changes are listed there too 21:30:14 <ennael> well would be nice to extract a list of web apps 21:30:20 <ennael> to check configuration files 21:30:34 <MrsB> if that's possible it would be good to do 21:30:36 <ennael> see also 21:30:37 <ennael> Order deny,allow 21:30:37 <ennael> Allow from all 21:30:37 <ennael> is now: 21:30:38 <ennael> Require all granted 21:30:39 <Luigi12_work> pterjan: it's not so much the location of the config files that's the issue, it's the contents 21:30:48 <ennael> that's an example 21:31:06 <Luigi12_work> apache has installation scripts that handle moving the config files to the correct directories, so yes those locations should be fixed but it's not critical 21:31:32 <AL13N> pterjan: good idea, that should also be the same packages that need to be checked for config directives 21:31:34 <pterjan> Luigi12_work: yes but it gives a list of packages to check 21:31:40 <pterjan> it may miss some 21:31:45 <pterjan> but it's a start 21:31:52 <Luigi12_work> sure 21:32:18 <leuhmanu> (in the same time you can check groups which are pretty wrong for some of them) 21:32:48 <Luigi12_work> RPM groups? I thought those were all fixed. 21:33:04 <leuhmanu> there is some webapps in networking/www 21:33:30 <Luigi12_work> oh, well I don't know that rpmlint can catch that 21:33:40 <leuhmanu> :g drupal 21:33:41 <Sophie> leuhmanu: Networking/WWW // core-release (Mga, cauldron, x86_64), core-release (Mga, cauldron, i586) 21:35:50 <AL13N> pterjan: unless you're sleeping already, is it possible to have a buildrule in buildsystem for checking apache config directives? 21:37:02 <Luigi12_work> that reminds me of something oden pointed out 21:37:47 <Luigi12_work> sometimes with %patch -b in spec files, the backup file of what got patched (when it's not C source code or something that doesn't ship in the package) gets shipped in the package as well, which could leave insecure scripts or something in a package 21:37:54 <Luigi12_work> rpmlint might be able to catch that 21:39:19 <AL13N> is it possible to have a whole repository checked by the buildsystem rules without rebuilding? 21:39:22 <neoclust> would be interesting 21:39:34 <neoclust> would be interesting for Luigi12_work remark 21:39:44 <neoclust> AL13N: we already rebuilded all 21:39:56 <pterjan> youri-check has a module for running rpmlint on everything 21:40:01 <AL13N> neoclust: yes, but we get new rules all the time 21:40:05 <pterjan> (but it's quite slow) 21:40:14 <tmb> AL13N: run rpmlint on rpms available on media 21:40:21 <AL13N> pterjan: but not slower than a full rebuild? 21:40:33 <neoclust> AL13N: we added rules in between ? 21:40:43 <AL13N> neoclust: yes and after 21:40:57 <neoclust> AL13N: like ? 21:41:07 <pterjan> AL13N: problem is that I can't enable it as we run youri-check each hour 21:41:08 <AL13N> neoclust: and for this issue, we could also add new rules 21:41:16 <AL13N> pterjan: ah, ok 21:41:16 <pterjan> we would need to run it much less often 21:41:28 <AL13N> neoclust: eg: the ones that check groups like for drupal 21:41:48 <pterjan> be we can have another config for daily/weekly checks 21:42:05 <neoclust> AL13N: groups ? which change ? 21:42:12 <AL13N> i was just thinking this could be useful to add the personal check page 21:42:18 <AL13N> :g drupal 21:42:24 <Sophie> AL13N: Networking/WWW // core-release (Mga, cauldron, x86_64), core-release (Mga, cauldron, i586) 21:42:27 <AL13N> neoclust: ^^ 21:42:43 <neoclust> AL13N: this is a new group ? 21:43:23 <leuhmanu> no, they are old and old 'bugs' too 21:43:44 <Luigi12_work> Networking/WWW isn't an invalid group, just the wrong group for drupal, rpmlint wouldn't catch that, if I understand correctly 21:43:50 <AL13N> oic 21:43:51 <tmb> neoclust: it was because we added the new rpm group rules to rpmlint, but forgot to add it to youri rejection rules before full rebuild, so some passed through... 21:43:54 <AL13N> my mistake 21:44:07 <neoclust> tmb: oh ok 21:44:16 <neoclust> tmb: i undertand better :) 21:44:46 <tmb> but most should be fixed now iirc, and rest is probably on autobuilder lists 21:44:49 <AL13N> and the stuff we're fixing now, it would be better to have rules for these as well, so to improve our packages and not have the same issue next time we do mass rebuild 21:45:07 <AL13N> oh, well it's just an idea 21:46:27 <tmb> ok, so back to topic... anything else regarding apache ... or do we close meeting ? 21:47:19 <ennael> speak now or never... 21:47:25 <Luigi12_work> the autobuilder doesn't check rpmlint I don't think 21:48:50 <ennael> ok that's all folks for tonight 21:48:54 <ennael> thanks for attending 21:48:58 <ennael> #endmeeting