13:18:01 <obgr_seneca> #startmeeting 13:18:01 <Inigo_Montoya`> Meeting started Wed Apr 13 13:18:01 2011 UTC. The chair is obgr_seneca. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:18:01 <Inigo_Montoya`> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 13:18:04 <ennael> maybe boklm can give some clue 13:18:05 <ennael> s 13:18:12 <ennael> as sysadmin representative 13:18:13 <obgr_seneca> #chair ennael stormi 13:18:13 <Inigo_Montoya`> Current chairs: ennael obgr_seneca stormi 13:18:21 <obgr_seneca> #chair boklm 13:18:21 <Inigo_Montoya`> Current chairs: boklm ennael obgr_seneca stormi 13:18:38 <obgr_seneca> #topic wiki 13:18:42 <obgr_seneca> boklm: ping 13:19:11 <coincoin> :) 13:19:22 <ennael> boklm: don't hide 13:19:30 <boklm> hello 13:20:02 <obgr_seneca> nice to see you 13:20:11 <obgr_seneca> do you have any news on the wiki? 13:20:27 <boklm> for wiki, I didn't continue installing yet :/ 13:20:34 <boklm> so it still needs to be done 13:20:51 <obgr_seneca> ok, if I should do something 13:20:54 <obgr_seneca> tell me 13:21:24 <boklm> I will try to continue soon on wiki 13:21:33 <obgr_seneca> I haven't really worked for my company all day, so I could continue doing different things :D 13:22:03 <obgr_seneca> Problem is: I don't know puppet, so I don't know, how that script should look like 13:23:46 <obgr_seneca> #info boklm will continue working on the wiki soon 13:23:58 <boklm> for now, next thing to do is test mediawiki packages 13:24:05 <obgr_seneca> ok, I will do 13:24:17 <obgr_seneca> #action obgr_seneca test mediawiki packages 13:24:22 <boklm> then add sql dump file in package to make automatic install possible 13:24:26 <stormi> packages that are currently in cauldron ? 13:24:31 <boklm> stormi: yes 13:24:54 <obgr_seneca> #info mediawiki packages can be found in cauldron 13:25:44 <obgr_seneca> #action create sql dump files for automatic installation 13:26:06 <obgr_seneca> ok, that's it for now? 13:26:52 <boklm> yes 13:27:07 <obgr_seneca> anybody here who could tell us about maintdb? 13:27:19 <obgr_seneca> I see, kosmas has left -dev some time ago 13:27:34 <boklm> for maintdb, I sent an email on mailing list today, to ask instructions for installation 13:28:07 <boklm> to be able to install on Mageia servers 13:28:13 <obgr_seneca> yes, I saw 13:28:27 <obgr_seneca> And kosmas was online on the -dev channel some time ago 13:28:43 <obgr_seneca> stormi: do you want to tell us about mad bee? 13:28:54 <stormi> lol that's not its name :) 13:29:01 <stormi> but I can yes 13:29:03 <obgr_seneca> It is to me :D 13:29:07 <ennael> maintdb is becoming quite an emergency for packagers and triage team 13:29:11 <obgr_seneca> #topic mageia-app-db 13:29:34 <obgr_seneca> ennael: yes, but I can't very well discuss it without its developer 13:29:49 <ennael> sure just wanted to insist a bit on this 13:29:53 <ennael> "we never know" :) 13:30:20 <stormi> so, about mageia-app-db you probably saw that I announced version 0.2 on the mageia-discuss mailing list 13:30:22 <obgr_seneca> We should push it on the ml 13:30:40 <obgr_seneca> since it's written in ruby, perhaps shikamaru could help out? 13:30:41 <ennael> ? 13:30:43 <obgr_seneca> sorry stormi 13:30:47 <ennael> yep maybe 13:30:50 <stormi> no pb go on :) 13:30:54 <ennael> current dev seems overloaded 13:31:00 <obgr_seneca> ennael: yes 13:31:04 <boklm> yes, more than one people working on it would help 13:31:17 <stormi> isn't shikamaru already helping ? 13:31:19 <obgr_seneca> but now, let's stormi tell us about mad bee 13:31:37 <ennael> stormi: well if nobody ask about emergency nothing will happen ;) 13:32:02 <obgr_seneca> ennael: Should I try and contact kosmas and shikamaru? 13:32:34 <ennael> why not yes 13:32:50 <obgr_seneca> ok, will do 13:33:10 <obgr_seneca> so coming back to the topic... 13:33:16 <obgr_seneca> stormi: still there? 13:33:19 <stormi> yes :) 13:33:45 <stormi> so I said version 0.2 was released, which is now "alive" thanks to the synchronization with Sophie 13:34:04 <obgr_seneca> is there a test instance? 13:34:22 <stormi> yes, several, one for mageia, one for mandriva, one for fedora and one for opensuse 13:34:29 <obgr_seneca> url? 13:34:35 <stormi> http://88.191.121.20/madb/mageia/ 13:34:52 <obgr_seneca> #link http://88.191.121.20/madb/mageia/ 13:34:56 <stormi> it's all in the mail I send to mageia-discuss 13:35:09 <stormi> we now are 4 developers 13:35:13 <obgr_seneca> #info test instance of mageia-app-db now version 0.2 alive 13:35:18 <obgr_seneca> #undo 13:35:18 <Inigo_Montoya`> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.items.Info object at 0x827252c> 13:35:28 <obgr_seneca> #info test instance of mageia-app-db version 0.2 now alive 13:35:43 <stormi> dant3, from russia, is currently working on the notifications system 13:35:52 <obgr_seneca> stormi: I saw your mail, but with that many mails, it's hard to read them all 13:35:55 <stormi> xaris helps with various tasks (CSS is his) 13:35:57 <ennael> stormi: when do you think we can have something usable for non advanced users N 13:36:00 <ennael> ? 13:36:11 <stormi> ennael: it depends on where we put the cursor 13:36:23 <ennael> sure but maybe we could have some intermediate one 13:36:29 <stormi> the current version can already be useful although still rough 13:36:31 <ennael> so that we can show concrete things usable 13:36:53 <ennael> how rough? 13:37:06 <stormi> it just allows to browse packages, search, see screenshots 13:37:19 <ennael> well imho it's a first big result 13:37:44 <ennael> why do you want to hide such a tool :) 13:37:51 <stormi> I don't want to hide it :) 13:38:12 <ennael> maybe you could have some in betwwen steps 13:38:19 <ennael> we could have it in production 13:38:27 <ennael> and update to next step each time 13:38:43 <ennael> :me looks at boklm running away from here 13:38:50 <boklm> :) 13:39:15 <stormi> I need to see with the sysadm team if and how we could put one instance into production 13:39:29 <stormi> and I also will need to discuss LDAP integration 13:39:29 <ennael> yep can be onteresting 13:39:38 <boklm> yes 13:39:45 <stormi> how can we proceed ? 13:40:24 <boklm> stormi: we need some documentation about what is required for database, dependencies, and how to install it 13:40:33 <stormi> ok, I'll write that 13:40:57 <stormi> we are working on a RPM installation to please our beloved sysadmins, but it's not ready yet 13:41:12 <ennael> :) 13:41:22 <boklm> we can help to create the RPM if needed 13:41:34 <ennael> stormi: say yes now! 13:41:35 <ennael> :) 13:41:36 <stormi> well, why not 13:41:38 <stormi> yes ! 13:41:40 <stormi> :) 13:41:42 <boklm> :) 13:42:15 <obgr_seneca> Should I? The buildsystem wasn't blocked for quite some time... 13:42:28 <stormi> I contacted the person who runs screenshots.debian.org 13:42:31 <ennael> try it :) 13:42:43 <stormi> to see if he wants to add multi-distro functionalities 13:42:45 <boklm> obgr_seneca: now the problem with your login blocking BS should be fixed :) 13:42:55 <stormi> and he was interested in doing it 13:42:57 <obgr_seneca> boklm: I know 13:43:01 <ennael> stormi: great :) 13:43:59 <stormi> In fact thanks to the nuremberg meeting now I have you relations with the people behing screenshots.debian.net, (not org, my mistake), debtags, distromatch (for matching packages names) and the ubuntu software center 13:44:22 <ennael> nice 13:44:47 <stormi> it can lead to interesting things maybe, such as using their screenshots (already the case), using their already big database of tags about applications, maybe translated package descriptions (not sure yet) 13:45:14 <ennael> there was a project about mutualization on descrtiption 13:45:25 <ennael> but packaging rules can be tricky to manage 13:45:57 <stormi> if you restrict to only graphical applications, package matching is easier from one distribution to the other so you can get some approximate result 13:46:20 <ennael> we had a discussion about it 2 yeasr ago in fosdem 13:46:22 <stormi> but I'm not sure about that, package descriptions and their translations is a big topic 13:46:27 <ennael> yep 13:46:36 <obgr_seneca> also interesting for i18n 13:46:41 <ennael> can be an entire subject 13:46:54 <ennael> we were planning to make a dedicated project on freedesktop 13:47:15 <stormi> however, if I can use the localized descriptions from debian as a test, I will do it, maybe in an experimental branch 13:47:18 <stormi> just to see 13:47:50 <stormi> Do you have questions about mageia-app-db ? 13:48:37 <stormi> #action stormi write installation requirements for the sysadm team, and then see what happens :) 13:48:54 <stormi> #action boklm: help with RPM packaging of mageia-app-db 13:50:33 <stormi> if there are no more questions, is there another topic to tackle ? 13:50:53 <obgr_seneca> #topic other 13:51:00 <obgr_seneca> so, anything arround? 13:52:04 <stormi> not for me 13:52:11 <ennael> nope 13:52:12 <obgr_seneca> for me neither 13:52:19 <obgr_seneca> so let's end this meeting 13:52:24 <obgr_seneca> #endmeeting