14:09:41 <rda> #startmeeting 14:09:41 <Inigo_Montoya> Meeting started Wed Feb 9 14:09:41 2011 UTC. The chair is rda. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:09:41 <Inigo_Montoya> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 14:10:27 <rda> #chair obgr_seneca damsweb kosmas stormi blingme dmorgan maat stef74home boklm Jehane xrogaan 14:10:27 <Inigo_Montoya> Current chairs: Jehane blingme boklm damsweb dmorgan kosmas maat obgr_seneca rda stef74home stormi xrogaan 14:10:38 <rda> who wants to start? 14:10:50 <maat> hi all 14:11:05 <maat> rda who wants to start? <-- you ;-) 14:11:14 <rda> #topic forum 14:11:18 <rda> maat: so? ;) 14:11:22 <damsweb> :-) 14:11:23 <maat> :) 14:11:27 <maat> so 14:11:40 <maat> afaik 14:11:52 <maat> the server has been installed for os part 14:11:54 * Jehane is afk, at work 14:12:09 <maat> dunno about apache/MySQL/PHP stack 14:12:39 <maat> ldap has been set up by misc so that we can test tsl connection 14:12:47 <maat> from ennael's box 14:12:58 <rda> hmm ok, what are the next steps? 14:13:25 <maat> next we need a git repos and the write access on it for ash and i 14:13:39 <rda> there is a git repository... 14:14:00 <maat> cool 14:14:09 <maat> seems i missed something 14:14:46 <stormi> can we set a firm reasonable deadline and/or milestones ? 14:15:03 <maat> then we need to fresh start from phpBB 3.0.8 14:15:14 <rda> ok. 14:15:19 <rda> wait, checking the wiki page about that 14:15:20 <maat> and re-inject the mods we already approved 14:16:20 <maat> then we need to template it with the official logo 14:16:34 <maat> (and official skin if there is already one) 14:16:41 <rda> no no. we first need it working and set up. template, logo, design, this will come later. 14:17:19 <maat> ok 14:18:09 * maat asks for git accesses to forum project repos 14:18:44 <rda> and please, please, update your wiki page about this (code repositories, upstream, middle, mageia ones) 14:18:52 <rda> and please (will setup the link, use bugzilla) 14:19:13 <ennael> If I can ad something 14:19:25 <ennael> we should have forums up for alpha 14:19:31 <maat> yes 14:19:37 <ennael> otherwise it will be a mess on ML 14:19:57 <stormi> Isn't alpha planned in less than one week ? 14:20:04 <ennael> it is 14:20:06 <obgr_seneca> next tuesday 14:20:43 <maat> ouch 14:22:53 <rda> maat: for the doc wiki page, feel free to remove unnecessary doc as time goes by and stuff gets done as well. 14:23:08 <stormi> #info forum server up, need to check LAMP stack, then phpBB 3.0.8 install + already approved mods 14:23:37 <maat> ( rda i'll need a word in private this evening ) 14:24:15 <rda> maat: yes? or now, as you prefer. I won't be that much online between 6 and midnight 14:25:00 <rda> ok, next topic? 14:25:05 <rda> #topic bugzilla 14:25:06 <stormi> #action forum should be up for alpha release 14:25:10 <rda> dmorgan: around? 14:25:11 <stormi> oops too late 14:25:19 <rda> stormi: sorry :-p 14:27:19 <obgr_seneca> seems not 14:28:22 <dmorgan> rda: yes quickly :) 14:28:52 <rda> dmorgan: so, what status? 14:28:58 <rda> #link http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=web:forums => forum wiki page 14:29:12 <rda> (ok, sorry, thinkgs will be mixed wrt forum/bugzilla) 14:30:53 <dmorgan> rda: for bugzilla i am still on it but really harder than planned, i will soon remove all from my server and try to do it cleanly i think that looking all the time the same mistakes makes me blind 14:31:11 <dmorgan> rda: saturday i mail to webteam to give the status 14:31:20 <dmorgan> and i do a general mail asking for help 14:31:33 <stormi> must bugzilla be up also for alpha release ? 14:31:59 <dmorgan> it would better 14:32:04 <obgr_seneca> It would be good, wouldn't it? 14:32:13 <dmorgan> stormi: you wanna help ? 14:32:22 <stormi> dmorgan: why not 14:32:31 <stormi> but I never did that before :) 14:32:50 <dmorgan> stormi: in about half an hour i can talk to you in private to explain what had been done and what need to be done 14:32:55 <stormi> dmorgan: ok 14:33:16 <stormi> #info bugzilla hard to setup. Stormi will try to help dmorgan. 14:33:34 <stormi> #info deadline if feasible is alpha release 14:35:08 <stormi> if we have to find compromises but that bugzilla is available for bug reports, it would be already not bad 14:35:15 <plalien> ok. but i see bugzilla at http://bugs.mageia.org/index.cgi... 14:36:23 <plalien> first for all we must up bugzilla and forum in my opinion 14:37:13 <rda> dmorgan: actually, I planned to use bugzilla as a stable now. 14:37:46 <rda> it's a matter of best effort. 14:37:53 <rda> alpha is released on Feb 15th no matter what. 14:40:23 <rda> ok... next? 14:40:30 <obgr_seneca> #topic wiki 14:40:36 <rda> hmm a last one 14:40:46 <rda> dmorgan: is it safe to post bugs already or will they be removed? 14:41:02 <stormi> #undo 14:41:02 <Inigo_Montoya> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.items.Topic object at 0x863e44c> 14:41:28 <rda> dmorgan: ping :) 14:41:30 <stormi> (I'm not sure you should have chaired us all :)) 14:41:43 * obgr_seneca neither 14:41:54 <rda> stormi: yes, it's better, I look at who can chair later on :) 14:42:07 <rda> ok, I'll reduce the list next time 14:44:30 <rda> well... 14:44:32 <rda> #topic wiki 14:44:36 <obgr_seneca> ok 14:44:45 <obgr_seneca> Wiki is almost ready 14:45:01 <obgr_seneca> will have it packaged till weekend for sysadmin team to have a look on it 14:45:10 <obgr_seneca> (especially the ldap part) 14:45:42 <obgr_seneca> Themeing has to be done afterwards 14:45:44 <rda> #action obgr_seneca packages wiki + locale layout + ldap for sysadmin to check it for this weekend 14:45:48 <rda> #info theme still to be done 14:45:54 <rda> yes, the theme part will be done later. 14:45:59 <rda> first, let's set up all the tools 14:46:15 <obgr_seneca> I didn't look into that at all since I don't have any theme/logo/colours and so on 14:46:26 <obgr_seneca> has to be done by artwork team I think 14:47:00 <rda> and webteam for integration, but yes, later. 14:47:02 <rda> anything else? 14:47:16 <obgr_seneca> nothing I can think of at the moment 14:47:28 <rda> as a side note, for the theme, it may come out of the preliminary work of alex for the distribution artwork. we'll see. 14:47:33 <rda> obgr_seneca: ok, thanks! 14:47:42 <obgr_seneca> no prob 14:47:51 <rda> #topic maintainer db 14:47:52 <rda> kosmas: ? 14:48:26 <kosmas> some progress to report. 14:48:57 <rda> go ahead! :) 14:49:36 <kosmas> relationship between sources and maintainers. Search for source packages in place. Started work with ldap authentication. 14:50:00 <stormi> have you make a roadmap with estimated deadline ? 14:50:03 <stormi> made* 14:51:57 <kosmas> not yet stormi 14:52:09 <stormi> I think it would be great for rda :) 14:52:19 <stormi> and obgr_seneca 14:52:24 <rda> not only me :) 14:52:28 <stormi> our beloved leaders 14:52:49 <obgr_seneca> I didn't do anything to merrit that title 14:52:58 <obgr_seneca> except volunteering for the job 14:53:03 <stormi> that's enough 14:53:28 <kosmas> need to know what is necessary first for deployment. Haven't got a chance to find out about the live server yet. Would we need to finish off ldap authentication before live? 14:54:04 <rda> kosmas: if we can manually insert emails for one, we can start withouth ldap for live 14:54:29 <rda> but if you can provide again the updated list of requirements and see with sysadmin how to match the two lists... that would help 14:54:41 <stormi> kosmas: if you write down all tasks then maybe rda and obgr_seneca could help prioritizing them and set milestones ? 14:55:21 <kosmas> ok: I'll probably send another mail to ML with the tasks to be done and then you can decide about priorities. 14:55:21 <stormi> (with estimated workload for each task, roughly) 14:55:30 <rda> well, milestones based on status, not dates, but yes. that would help. tasks with expected involved people (here, kosmas and sysadmin I guess) 14:55:35 <rda> kosmas: cool thanks 14:56:02 <rda> #info progress made (sources/maintainers relationships; package search; started ldap auth) 14:56:20 <rda> #info tasks list needed to set milestones before live integration 14:56:26 <stormi> rda: dates help, even if we don't respect them :) For mageia-app-db we planned 0.1 at the end of 2010, and it really was done only last week, but still I gave us some good incentives to work 14:56:29 <rda> #info environment reqs list to update 14:56:35 <rda> stormi: yep :) 14:56:41 <kosmas> so if anyone wants to have a look and add things, make comments the staging is here: maintdb.mageia.org.uk 14:58:30 <stormi> #info testing and comments welcome on staging instance : http://maintdb.mageia.org.uk 14:59:39 <rda> ok, next? 14:59:55 <dmorgan> rda: back 15:00:08 <rda> #topic bugzilla again 15:00:11 <dmorgan> rda: we will keep the existing bugreports i think 15:00:23 <rda> #info bugs are safe to be filled in already 15:00:25 <rda> cool 15:00:33 <dmorgan> rda: we have only 3 bugreports one from buchan, and 2 to test xmlrpc 15:00:39 <dmorgan> so no pbs to keep them 15:00:45 <rda> dmorgan: yep, but it's good to know if we can encourage people to use it right now 15:01:02 <Jehane> dmorgan: no reservation of bug #1 for an awesome first bug ? 15:01:16 <dmorgan> rda: i think we should try 'us' to us it and see any issue 15:01:30 <stormi> you mean "us" webteam ? 15:01:42 <dmorgan> stormi: webteam, sysadm, ... 15:01:45 <obgr_seneca> or "us" whole project? 15:01:48 <rda> dmorgan: that's the goal. I meant people as us. 15:01:48 <dmorgan> but no real user bug yet 15:01:58 <dmorgan> rda: so i agree :) 15:02:09 <rda> these are still real user bugs :) 15:02:17 <dmorgan> rda: ;) 15:04:44 <rda> ok next ? 15:04:46 <rda> #topic calendar 15:05:07 <rda> no progress so far but I will postpone this until end of Feb (unless someone wants to take it) 15:05:42 <obgr_seneca> I wanted to, but I didn't have the time 15:06:17 <rda> no pb. :) 15:06:24 <rda> #topic website 15:06:38 <rda> current version ok, I'm still late to integrate russian translations (2 pages) 15:07:02 <rda> and a possible next version is still pending on my hd. 15:07:16 <rda> notwithstanding design/layout/theme points that are not set yet. 15:07:21 <rda> ha. 15:07:29 <rda> #topic alpha release page/mirrors/etc. 15:20:11 <obgr_seneca> ping? 15:20:59 <damsweb> other meeting at the same time explaning why we lost rda :-) 15:21:07 <rda> lost, lost... 15:21:10 <rda> not completely. 15:21:13 <rda> sorry for the lag... 15:21:27 <rda> so, question is (open). We'll have to setup a page for alpha one release. 15:21:32 <rda> will be rought, on purpose. 15:21:35 <rda> rough 15:21:42 <rda> just link to existing mirrors. 15:21:51 <rda> no fancy stuff. no dynamic, etc. 15:22:09 <rda> any hint/opinion about this? or even someone wanting to make it? 15:22:44 <stormi> just a big flashing text saying this is not usable for common users, but I know you already have it :) 15:22:58 <rda> ok :) 15:23:01 <rda> anything else? 15:23:03 <stormi> + links to bugzilla and forum 15:23:07 <stormi> if they're ready 15:23:08 <rda> ah, yes. 15:23:34 <damsweb> + link to the wiki with all erratas or informations 15:23:55 <damsweb> + a link to donate page \o/ 15:24:18 <rda> yes too 15:24:43 <rda> #info dead simple download page (list of links to mirrors) + warning message + links to bugzilla, forum, wiki, errata, release notes, donate page 15:24:58 <rda> damsweb: will you be available to set it up for the releasE? 15:25:08 <damsweb> the download page? 15:25:12 <rda> (I will be offline from Saturday evening to the week after) 15:25:13 <rda> yes 15:25:29 <rda> I can draft it and make it ready but you'd need to update it/release it when necessary 15:25:29 <damsweb> rda: hum ok I can do it 15:25:46 <damsweb> but I will need help for CSS 15:26:05 <rda> no need. again, this will be a very simple page. 15:26:15 <rda> but anyone else may propose an upgrade on this. 15:26:57 <obgr_seneca> damsweb: we could do it together but I don't have permissions to publish it on the server 15:27:20 <damsweb> obgr_seneca: ok, great! 15:27:40 <damsweb> I can publish on the server 15:27:48 <obgr_seneca> since release is on tuesday we could get in contact over the weekend? 15:27:48 <damsweb> obgr_seneca: thank you for the help 15:27:49 <rda> obgr_seneca: we'll fix that. can you post a mail on the list about that? 15:28:11 <obgr_seneca> about not having permissions on the server? 15:28:14 <damsweb> rda: webteam@ or @sysadmin? 15:28:23 <stormi> rda: a page explaining how to contribute would be great (not just the list of teams), linked from the download page (and mageia's main front page) 15:28:29 <rda> obgr_seneca: yep, we'll push your key 15:28:37 <obgr_seneca> ok 15:28:51 <rda> stormi: yes, but one thing at a time. or if you can see how to set it up on the wiki (I believe there are starts for this) 15:29:07 <rda> #action stormi to gather info on a page for contributions input 15:29:16 <stormi> /o\ :) 15:29:17 <rda> #action damsweb & obgr_seneca to build/setup/release the download page 15:29:24 <damsweb> #info will be good to have the page before the release to have it translated in time 15:29:32 <rda> #action obgr_seneca to mail webteam to get a push access on website as well 15:29:47 <obgr_seneca> rda: Could you show me how to publish sth on the website? 15:30:13 <rda> obgr_seneca: see that with damsweb maybe. or I can send you the script I use for taht. that's basically a scp command. 15:30:26 <rda> beware, it's rough! :) 15:30:30 <obgr_seneca> both would be fine 15:32:47 <rda> ok 15:32:49 <rda> so... 15:32:53 <rda> meeting done for today. 15:32:57 <rda> sorry for the length of it. 15:33:02 <rda> thanks a lot for attending! 15:33:07 <obgr_seneca> ok, have to get back to work... 15:33:20 <rda> again, for next week, you'll have to set it up without me ;) 15:33:23 <rda> #endmeeting