14:08:00 <rda> #startmeeting 14:08:00 <Inigo_Montoya> Meeting started Wed Dec 8 14:08:00 2010 UTC. The chair is rda. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:08:00 <Inigo_Montoya> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 14:08:10 <rda> #chair rda misc coincoin 14:08:10 <Inigo_Montoya> Current chairs: coincoin misc rda 14:08:37 <rda> #topic past week actions review 14:09:10 <rda> so, identity/catdap: blingme misc? (obgr is not here atm) 14:09:15 <coincoin> hello all 14:09:38 <blingme> Hi 14:10:07 <blingme> Unfortunately, I am moving countries again this week ... if I can get to everything ... 14:10:18 <blingme> so, I don't have much time at present ... 14:10:36 <rda> blingme: ok. where are you moving to? 14:10:46 <blingme> rda: moving back to South Africa 14:11:32 <rda> ok :) 14:11:38 <rda> obgr_seneca: hi! 14:11:50 <obgr_seneca> hi, sorry, I'm a bit late 14:11:50 <rda> obgr_seneca: we are on catdap/identity topic; anything to say about this? 14:12:27 <dmorgan> Regarding the CSS/HTML i saw commits in trunk, is it planned to backport them ? 14:12:41 <obgr_seneca> misc told me howto set it up but sth. doesn't work on my local instance and I didn't have much time 14:13:05 <obgr_seneca> As soon as it works, I can finish css work 14:13:24 <obgr_seneca> dmorgan: blingme told me to commit in trunk 14:13:58 <blingme> well, at present, we have "trunk" and a live branch .... 14:13:59 <rda> obgr_seneca: did you identify the blocking sth? 14:14:01 <dmorgan> obgr_seneca: iirc we need to have it backported on the "live" branch to have then on "production" 14:14:03 <blingme> live branch is what is running live ... 14:14:15 <blingme> it doesn't make sense to commit directly to live 14:14:26 <blingme> feel free to create a different branch if you want 14:14:30 <obgr_seneca> sth about authentification 14:14:37 <obgr_seneca> mom, I'm looking it up 14:14:42 <blingme> obgr_seneca: what is not running? catdap application, or ldap or the combination 14:14:56 <blingme> (e.g., you can see live generated login and registration pages etc. without ldap working) 14:15:01 <obgr_seneca> I think sth between catdap and ldap 14:15:37 <obgr_seneca> I can't register a new user, so I can't look into anything beyond the login and registration pages 14:16:06 <rda> ok, can you see that after/along the meeting then? 14:16:52 <obgr_seneca> yes 14:17:53 <rda> blingme: obgr_seneca: plus, as soon as you have time for it, could you sort through http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=web:identity#issues to see what may be done (and by who) and/or what is blocking for a broader usage. and if we ought to ask/search for one more dev to contribute? (no hurry, but just to sum it up for next week) 14:18:16 <obgr_seneca> ok 14:18:17 <misc> one more dev will never be refused 14:19:23 <rda> ok, next: wiki setup: obgr_seneca you again (leu isn't here) 14:19:25 <rda> :) 14:20:10 <rda> any update on this? did you manage to sync with each other? 14:20:39 <obgr_seneca> no, I'm sorry 14:20:49 <obgr_seneca> Perhaps someone else could look into it? 14:20:55 <blingme> 1) and 2) are probably valid, 3)the account you tested with was privileged, test with an unprivileged account 14:20:58 <obgr_seneca> I'm running out of time lately 14:21:21 <blingme> 6)I can't test ipv6, but misc commited at least one fix 14:21:40 <blingme> 7)Do you really want this? There were discussions about other auditing requirements 14:21:43 <misc> blingme: s/one/the start of a fix/ :) 14:21:51 <rda> obgr_seneca: ok, just good to know. :) I'll sync with leu this evening most likely and see hwo to dispatch. 14:21:59 <misc> ( which remind me I have a question for you, after the meeting ) 14:22:22 <blingme> 8)invalid, only Account admins and LDAP admins can change loginShell 14:22:34 <rda> next: website; nothing new at once, apart that we will start to think about the whole site information architecture and global nav; that's just a note, we should do that with comm/market teams as well. 14:22:48 <rda> next: forums: ashledombos ? 14:22:54 <rda> (maat isn't there) 14:22:59 <misc> rda: I have a question for the website 14:23:02 <rda> misc: sure? 14:23:15 <ashledombos> rda: represent 14:23:15 <obgr_seneca> do you sync with him via irc? Then I'll be present 14:23:28 <misc> https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-webteam/2010-November/000056.html 14:23:42 <rda> obgr_seneca: hopefully, yes. thanks. I guess he would be online around 18/19 CET 14:23:43 <misc> rda: you told "working on the infrastructure to ease deployement" 14:23:50 <rda> misc: yes? 14:24:15 <misc> can you clarify, as I didn't see any mail on sysadm or webteam about what exactly was or would be done on infrastructure ? 14:24:16 <rda> that's not a rpm, that's about the edition/translation and full website update process actually. 14:24:38 <rda> misc: the www website would be pushed through a script from a git/svn rep, likely. 14:25:56 <rda> this far (it may change, but how it is since we started mageia and it will be in the next tw months at least), that's 100% in-house code/structure. will write about that soon I hope. 14:26:19 <misc> and so, this script is in what svn ? 14:26:46 <rda> misc: you have the existing www svn but the next I'm working on is not yet. 14:26:51 <rda> but will somehow similar 14:26:53 <rda> +be 14:28:02 <misc> rda: well, is there something that prevent to commit in our svn for the moment, something missing ? 14:28:57 <misc> ( if you prefer git, I could understand that svn is not what you like :) ) 14:29:03 <rda> mostly, it doesn't work at all for now and I'm looking for a way to better separate app code from contents (but it's not easy) 14:29:13 <rda> I prefer git as well, but that's not as critical as previous issue :) 14:29:31 <misc> well, I tried to setup gitorious, and it will be harder 14:29:40 <rda> harder? 14:29:45 <misc> than svn 14:30:36 <kosmas> need any help with git setup? 14:30:43 <misc> there is 4 daemons to start, a special setup on ssh, various problem when some deps are updated, etc, etc 14:31:49 <misc> kosmas: not yet, what we need is more a design on how to host git rather than help, but we will discuss this later , so if you want to help, do not hesitate to signal again ( if we forget ) 14:32:04 <misc> anyway, the goal was not to interrupt the meeting :) 14:33:03 <rda> :-p 14:33:09 <rda> ok, so, ashledombos, about the forum? :-p 14:36:52 <misc> ( timeout ? ) 14:37:21 <rda> ashledombos: ping 14:37:35 <rda> ok, next, we'll get back to forums later 14:37:41 <rda> next: bugzilla: dmorgan ? 14:37:57 <dmorgan> so 14:38:43 <dmorgan> for bugzilla, i started a mail, ( i will send it after some modifications ) but basically what is missing is : 14:39:26 <dmorgan> 1- Define the main categories 14:39:42 <dmorgan> 2- Modify the edit.cgi page to fit our needs 14:40:02 <dmorgan> we could look to the mdv one as this is available on the svn ( from what i saw ) 14:42:39 <dmorgan> rda: and after we will need to modify the look and feel of the bugzilla but this is "minor" 14:42:54 <rda> dmorgan: really, really minor for the time being. 14:42:54 <dmorgan> as long as users can report bugs easily i'm good with it :) 14:43:07 <rda> what is major is having this stuff set up and working. then we'll improve on usage. 14:43:19 <dmorgan> rda: yes i agree 14:43:25 <dmorgan> 1 and 2 here 14:43:47 <rda> ok. dmorgan anything else? 14:43:50 <rda> anyone: comments? 14:44:45 <dmorgan> rda: for me this is all 14:44:55 <dmorgan> rda: my mail will show better how we can do it 14:45:19 <rda> ok 14:45:26 <rda> so, that's it for past week actions. 14:45:40 <rda> anyone has a topic/question to raise? (open bar for the next 5 minutes :) ) 14:46:01 <misc> o/ 14:46:11 <misc> ( yeah, always the same ) 14:46:21 <rda> misc: yes ? 14:46:51 <kosmas> so have you decided about bugzilla or are you looking at other ones as well? 14:46:52 <misc> I am working on sympa, and so given the default template, i assume that webteam will want to change it 14:47:38 <rda> misc: maybe, maybe not. not urgent either, but maybe at some point yes. 14:47:41 <misc> so, since sympa is already taking care of this, all that is needed is placing file in a well defined directory , using tt 14:47:56 <rda> kosmas: we discussed some others but here yes, we opted for bugzilla for the distribution. 14:48:12 <kosmas> rda: ok 14:48:17 <misc> we lightly discussed... 14:48:20 <rda> kosmas: as we're headed to have some sort of forge as well, we hope, we may have alternative for other non-distribution things. we'll see. 14:48:37 <rda> misc: yes, lightly. 14:48:45 <rda> misc: (about sympa) cool then 14:49:09 <misc> rda: the problem is the default tempaltes is offering fonction that mean nothing with out setup 14:49:21 <misc> like "reset password " 14:49:43 <misc> or change email ( without changing ldap ) 14:49:51 <rda> misc: so that means we should manage these now then? 14:50:10 <rda> because we should update these parts to redirect to ldap (or not, depends on the context) 14:50:22 <misc> simply removing them would be ok 14:50:47 <rda> add a notice/link to identity then maybe? 14:50:49 <misc> but my main point is "what and how do we do", ie, shall i add another directory in some svn, open a new one ? 14:52:07 <rda> misc: in web/templates/sympa/trunk then maybe (alongside bugzilla templates) 14:53:33 <misc> ok so I guess my explanation about multiple svn didn't really convince people :/ 14:56:43 <rda> misc: that is? 14:57:02 <misc> rda: something I cannot find, so maybe I didn't send it, hence lack of reaction 14:57:17 <misc> but basically, it was "smaller svn would be easier to migrate to git later if needed" 14:57:27 <misc> ( and easier to back, etc, etc ) 14:57:32 <rda> ah yes. I remember we talked about it. 14:57:47 <rda> well, I'm all for it as well, but as long as it's not enforced/put in place, we tend to use what we have. 14:58:04 <rda> here, that would be a svn for templates for vanilla apps in general 14:58:13 <rda> but yes, it's technically a branch in the web svn rep. 15:02:05 <misc> I guess we would be able to see once there is some more practice on this side 15:02:17 <misc> ( as we should also add catdap and epoll one day ) 15:04:22 <rda> well, yes, or have a forge-like list of projects and link to upstream repository 15:04:28 <rda> when appropriate 15:07:57 <misc> so the meeting should be stopped ? 15:08:11 <rda> unless someone has anything more to raise? 15:08:22 * rda realizes he didn't use meetbot at all... 15:08:32 <rda> #action better use meetbot next time (rda) 15:09:17 * misc has something not related to webteam in particular so wait for the end of the meeting 15:10:38 <rda> ok 15:10:40 <rda> #endmeeting