19:01:43 <DavidWHodgins> #startmeeting 19:01:43 <Inigo_Montoya> Meeting started Thu Jul 1 19:01:43 2021 UTC. The chair is DavidWHodgins. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:01:43 <Inigo_Montoya> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 19:01:51 <DavidWHodgins> #chair wilcal MageiaTJ 19:01:51 <Inigo_Montoya> Current chairs: DavidWHodgins MageiaTJ wilcal 19:02:13 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Who's new? - If you are then come and say hello 19:02:30 <DavidWHodgins> Any one here who hasn't been to a qa team irc meeting before? 19:02:47 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * M7.1 End Of Support 19:03:05 <DavidWHodgins> Mageia 7 has reached the end of support stage. 19:03:29 <wilcal> It is indeed EOL 19:03:31 <DavidWHodgins> There will still be some updates trickle through, mostly where the update has already been assigned to qa 19:03:54 <auroud85[m]> SVN is locked for pushed new updated 19:03:55 <DavidWHodgins> We don't want to throw away the work already done by the packagers 19:03:56 <MageiaTJ> There's a long list of those right now. 19:04:15 <auroud85[m]> I don't know if actual pending updates will be pushed. 19:04:26 <auroud85[m]> Will ask Neoclust and tmb 19:04:36 <bri_an> ok 19:04:53 <wilcal> Huge bloated list of open M7 security bugs. Fix, imo, is to upgrade to M8 19:05:00 <DavidWHodgins> There may be exceptions allowed on a case by case basis, but hopefully that will not be needed. 19:05:03 <auroud85[m]> Also, let's test all already MGA7-OK for M8 to push them asap 19:05:16 <DavidWHodgins> Agreed 19:05:22 <neoclust> we can, the upload is blocked but our script can move validated updates 19:05:35 <auroud85[m]> Luigi (David Walser) closed some today 19:05:58 <Luigi12> no reason the pending updates can't be pushed 19:06:02 <auroud85[m]> <neoclust "we can, the upload is blocked bu"> Ok. So test them for M8 and M7 now within a week 19:06:02 <DavidWHodgins> There may be exceptions in the future if new problems are found in upgrading from m7 to m8 19:06:03 <Luigi12> would be stupid to throw them away 19:06:15 <Luigi12> SVN shouldn't be locked though, who did that??? 19:06:15 <auroud85[m]> We will push them asap 19:06:46 <neoclust> Luigi12: agreed. We stop pushing NEW ones but we can move the already done ones 19:06:46 <MageiaTJ> On those updates for bot M7 and M8 that have not yet been OK for M7, do we validate with just an M8 OK? 19:06:51 <auroud85[m]> <Luigi12 "SVN shouldn't be locked though, "> I don't know 19:06:53 <bri_an> dumb question - have our servers been migrated to m8? 19:06:59 <DavidWHodgins> New changes to m7 require a freeze push 19:07:03 <neoclust> bri_an: in progress 19:07:13 <neoclust> bri_an: we are woking on it 19:07:14 <auroud85[m]> <neoclust "bri_an: in progress"> Good 19:07:26 <Luigi12> hopefully sympa will get fixed too 19:07:34 <Luigi12> I need to catch up on the bugs ml archives, I'm a month behind 19:07:53 <neoclust> Luigi12: yes and tmb did good to update in mga7, it will ease mga 7 -> 8 on our infras 19:07:53 <DavidWHodgins> That's a lot of messages 19:07:54 <Luigi12> but yeah good that our servers are being upgraded, that'd be a record for us 19:08:42 <auroud85[m]> <Luigi12 "but yeah good that our servers a"> This is good 19:09:04 <Luigi12> the libsolv packager was taking a nap when freeze went into effect and couldn't commit the security update to SVN, that's not good 19:09:05 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Testing updates 19:09:15 <benmc_> can that be automated or a "prod" from somewhere? 19:09:25 <DavidWHodgins> Any specific updates giving problems figuring out how to test? 19:09:32 <Luigi12> I went through all the mga7 security updates and posted PoC links when I could find them 19:09:58 <DavidWHodgins> benmc_: It requires manual monitoring/fixing to handle config changes 19:10:04 <neoclust> Luigi12: tomorow i am OFF at work 19:10:12 <neoclust> Luigi12: i will work on mga8 updates 19:10:25 <auroud85[m]> Bug 28530 [Update candidate] xen 19:10:34 <Luigi12> I also went through everything in updates_testing not assigned to QA and pinged bugs to see if anything else needed to be assigned to QA, but didn't look like anything important. Just wasn't sure if tmb wanted to do mesa and wireless-regdb updates, but probably not. So that's good. 19:11:10 <Luigi12> yah I also made sure all bugs with "feedback" were addressed, except xen 19:11:19 <auroud85[m]> This bug is waiting for a feedback 19:11:26 <MageiaTJ> Last couple of mesa updates have been M8 only, as I recall. 19:11:31 <Luigi12> yeah 19:11:36 <auroud85[m]> Yes 19:11:55 <Luigi12> I'm not sure why we even ship xen since we don't really support it, but whatevs 19:12:41 <DavidWHodgins> Looks like it's going to be a short meeting. :-) 19:12:45 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Anything else? 19:12:59 <wilcal> Short meetings are productive meetings 19:13:02 <MageiaTJ> Yeah. I see discussions in bugs that go "We really should drop this," then we update it anyway. 19:13:03 <wilcal> not from me 19:13:10 <wilcal> Thanks for being here David 19:13:14 <DavidWHodgins> Anyone have anything else to discuss? 19:13:15 <Luigi12> I closed all mga7 security bugs except for sympa which tmb wsa working on and htmldoc which is a dependent bug of one assigned to QA 19:13:32 <Luigi12> bugsquad will have to ping regular bugs and ask reporters if issues are still valid for mga8 and close if not or no response 19:13:34 <auroud85[m]> No. For me. 19:13:57 <auroud85[m]> <Luigi12 "bugsquad will have to ping regul"> Will do them tomorrow evening 19:13:59 <Luigi12> yeah TJ, we can't drop what's already in a stable release, but sometimes we do drop in Cauldron 19:14:14 <DavidWHodgins> Countdown time then ... 19:14:14 <Luigi12> it does get on my nerves when I suggest dropping something and it's updated and not dropped in Cauldron 19:14:21 <DavidWHodgins> t - 5 19:14:25 <wilcal> bye all 19:14:26 <DavidWHodgins> 4 19:14:30 <DavidWHodgins> 3 19:14:33 <DavidWHodgins> 2 19:14:35 <auroud85[m]> <Luigi12 "it does get on my nerves when I "> You are right 19:14:37 <DavidWHodgins> 1 19:14:44 <DavidWHodgins> Thanks everyone! 19:14:49 <DavidWHodgins> #endmeeting