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20:03:46 <wilcal> Hello everyone to this weeks QA meeting
20:04:09 <wilcal> I was hoping David would be here today as he as part of the activity this week
20:04:27 <wilcal> #topic Who's new?
20:04:36 <wilcal> Anyone new here today?
20:05:30 <wilcal> lets move on
20:05:32 <wilcal> #topic M8 release
20:06:02 <wilcal> So M8 is in the process of being released. Lots of chat about the torrents being populated
20:06:22 <auroud_85[m]> Already spreading through torrents
20:06:42 <wilcal> I honestly haven't seen anything for weeks that can't be worked on after release
20:07:08 <wilcal> What is the official announcent of the release date
20:07:40 <wilcal> Hi TJ
20:07:49 <wilcal> We're taking M8 release
20:07:55 <auroud_85[m]> Tomorrow 0900 utc
20:08:05 <wilcal> It's working it's way through the torrents
20:08:32 <MageiaTJ> Finally. First time using konversation with M8. They changed my config file on me.
20:08:33 <wilcal> So the last ISOs will be up on the mirrors this weekend
20:09:15 <auroud_85[m]> They are spreading in mirrors already
20:09:15 <wilcal> There's still issues but not anything hat can't be worked after release
20:10:00 <wilcal> I always scrub what I have here and start fresh with the official isos off the mirrors
20:10:04 <auroud_85[m]> Bugsquad has not seen any major bugs reported since RC1 release public.
20:10:29 <DavidWHodgins> Sorry, was working on another screen
20:10:36 <wilcal> When do you expect the updates repos to start to populate?
20:10:43 <auroud_85[m]> We are in process to look for M7 to M8 bug reports
20:10:51 <wilcal> Hello David Whew
20:11:07 <wilcal> #chair DavidWHodgins
20:11:07 <Inigo_Montoya> Current chairs: DavidWHodgins wilcal
20:11:09 <auroud_85[m]> Tier1 mirrors should have the iso
20:11:15 <DavidWHodgins> http://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/mageia/iso/ doesn't
20:11:16 <[mbot> [ Index of /pub/mageia/iso ]
20:11:45 <wilcal> I'll wait till the weekend to start the transition here
20:11:46 <auroud_85[m]> Princeton Edu should have or something wrong with the process.
20:11:48 <DavidWHodgins> I've sent a msg to Benjamin, but that was only about 10 minutes ago
20:12:00 <MageiaTJ> The upgrade changed my konversation config. Made the toolbar disappear, for some reason.
20:12:06 <DavidWHodgins> Likely a full hard drive again
20:12:15 <wilcal> how about kernel.org?
20:12:31 <MageiaTJ> I had to find the file and manually edit to get it back.
20:12:50 <DavidWHodgins> kernel.org now looks ok
20:12:59 <DavidWHodgins> It was slow syncing properly too
20:13:30 <wilcal> I'll start looking at things on Sat, LA time
20:13:53 <DavidWHodgins> The official announcement is supposed to be tomorrow, but if there are more mirror problems that may have to wait some more
20:14:31 <wilcal> When will the updates repos start to get opulatted
20:14:40 <wilcal> populated
20:15:51 <DavidWHodgins> The should be started already, but again depends on the mirror syncing
20:16:39 <DavidWHodgins> Pretty much don't expect everything to be fully synced for another day.
20:17:30 <wilcal> isos are on mirrors.kernel.org
20:17:51 <wilcal> http://mirrors.kernel.org/mageia/iso/8/
20:17:52 <[mbot> [ Index of /mageia/iso/8/ ]
20:18:44 <DavidWHodgins> That's one of the tier 1 mirrors. But as princeton is also a tier 1 mirror that many other mirrors sync from, that's a problem
20:20:09 <wilcal> Trickling through
20:20:16 <DavidWHodgins> Hopefully that will be fixed quickly and the announcements can go out tomorrow, but if not the announcements will have to be held back too.
20:20:48 <auroud_85[m]> Yes but what about torrent people should use?
20:21:19 <DavidWHodgins> The torrent files (on  the mirrors that have them now) are the same on all of the mirrors
20:21:38 <auroud_85[m]> Ok
20:22:32 <DavidWHodgins> So, for example https://mirrors.kernel.org/mageia/iso/8/torrents/
20:22:33 <[mbot> [ Index of /mageia/iso/8/torrents/ ]
20:23:01 <Benmc_> sorry to be late (been out fixing security cameras at  local cinema)
20:23:07 <DavidWHodgins> On my system ktorrent is now showing from 14 to 20 seeders for the Mageia 8 iso images
20:23:18 <DavidWHodgins> HiYa Ben
20:24:38 <neoclust> we need to wait for the torrents to be shared :-)
20:24:57 <Benmc_> 2 hrs ago (at home) ~200MB per  iso shared
20:25:12 <neoclust> DavidWHodgins: on MLO forum, someone told that the signatures were not OK
20:25:16 <wilcal> busy busy
20:25:20 <neoclust> can someone at the QA verify this ?
20:26:29 <DavidWHodgins> According to mageiasync, the sigs for the sha512 files validated. I'll check the rest after the meeting.
20:27:21 <DavidWHodgins> Any gpg file in particular mentioned on the forum?
20:27:46 <auroud_85[m]> neoclust: oh I'll stop my Freebox...
20:28:58 <neoclust> DavidWHodgins: i asked but no answer yet
20:29:06 <neoclust> auroud_85[m]: :)
20:29:15 <DavidWHodgins> $ gpg --verify Mageia-8-x86_64.iso.md5.gpg Mageia-8-x86_64.iso.md5 shows gpg: Good signature from "Mageia Release <release@mageia.org>" [full]
20:34:28 <DavidWHodgins> I would like to thank everyone now for all of the work done in testing Mageia 8. It's paid off. In my opinion, this has been one of the cleanest releases yet!
20:34:28 <wilcal> Lots of good work everywhere
20:34:28 <wilcal> M* became very usful weeks and weeks ago
20:34:28 <wilcal> M8
20:34:28 <wilcal> I have two issues I need to mention here. Mostly for M9
20:35:38 <wilcal> Just before we started jeeebz inquired about an ARM ( Rasperry Pi ) version of Mageia
20:36:07 <wilcal> #2 Continued support of 32-bit Mageia. Yes or No
20:36:34 <DavidWHodgins> I now have m8 working on an rpi4 except no sound over the hdmi to a tv.
20:36:39 <wilcal> I expect very strong support of 32-bit going forward
20:37:10 <DavidWHodgins> As long as the build system can support 32 bit, I see no reason to drop it.
20:37:28 <DavidWHodgins> The newer laptops with 32 bit uefi need it
20:37:41 <wilcal> The latest Pi the 4 and 400 has more then enough power to run an Xfce version of Mageia
20:37:58 <neoclust> DavidWHodgins: wilcal Yes, the QA is better every day, every release : -)
20:38:02 <DavidWHodgins> I'm running plasma on it. Speed is reasonable
20:38:42 <DavidWHodgins> A lot of that is better procedures and checking being done by packagers. Far fewer upgrade conflicts etc.
20:38:45 <barjac> Hi all, Anyone used VBox recently in Mga8? I can't get the file chooser to work when selecting a file for the install media. It works in Mga7 not 8.
20:39:29 <DavidWHodgins> barjac: Not in the last week or so. I can check it quickly though. Be right back
20:40:18 <wilcal> I've used Vbox on a Dell Laptop runiing both M7 & M8 and all versions run nicely
20:40:34 <wilcal> But, the laptop was less then a year old
20:40:59 <wilcal> I run it off USB storage
20:41:57 <barjac> wilcal: Could be something here then as I have not used it for a while, and this is not a new install of Mga8 it my old cauldron, but almost up to date.
20:42:59 <barjac> When selecting the iso for the install disk the chooser does not respond. (plasma)
20:43:14 <wilcal> IMO box is a bit tricky to master
20:43:36 <wilcal> Once you understand it it throws you a curve from time to time
20:43:38 <DavidWHodgins> barjac: Just confirmed. Clicking on the directory in the left part of the panel is not working, but, typing the directory name in the Name: field is working
20:43:44 <wilcal> Keeps life interesting
20:44:05 <wilcal> Sounds like a bug to me
20:44:14 <MageiaTJ> I used it a few days ago, looking for trying an upgrade from the CI. Worked OK as I recall.
20:44:16 <DavidWHodgins> Yep
20:44:52 <leuhmanu> we already have one
20:44:56 <leuhmanu> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27433
20:44:58 <[mbot> [ 27433 – Virtualbox 6.1.18 : Storage Section under VM configuration : Can't select ISO file in KIO Open dialog [Was OK before release of 6.1.14] ]
20:45:20 <DavidWHodgins> I've gotten into the habit of typing the directory names as I find it faster (I'm a touch typist), so would not have noticed normally
20:45:44 <DavidWHodgins> So we have a work around.
20:45:55 <barjac> DavidWHodgins: Oh dear! Well I have switched to Mga7 for the job in hand and can't stop just now. Ah OK thanks leuhmanu glad it's in hand!
20:46:14 <DavidWHodgins> On my new laptop, I only have m8 installed
20:48:24 <wilcal> Anything else on M*?
20:48:28 <wilcal> M8
20:48:41 <DavidWHodgins> Not for now. :-)
20:49:05 <wilcal> #topic Testing Updates & Backports
20:49:10 <wilcal> short list
20:49:41 <MageiaTJ> We have some for M8 already.
20:49:44 <wilcal> I put some issues being talked about on the QA ML in my notice this morning
20:50:03 <DavidWHodgins> I was supposed to test guacd last week but got sidetracked. I'm thinking of validating that one just based on a clean install over the prior version.
20:50:21 <wilcal> xfce won't wake: re-login failure
20:50:22 <wilcal> Grub menu gone after installing M8
20:50:24 <wilcal> upgrade testing
20:50:35 <wilcal> CPU sleep/suspend
20:50:55 <wilcal> 32bit i586 and SSE/SSE2 instructions slipping
20:51:03 <wilcal> anything in there of concern?
20:51:35 <DavidWHodgins> The xfce won't wake bug may end up as an errata item, as in "don't do that" :-(
20:52:11 <DavidWHodgins> The grub menu gone I don't have a clue what caused it, nor been able to replicate.
20:52:52 <wilcal> what's the  32bit i586 and SSE/SSE2 instructions slipping issue
20:53:11 <DavidWHodgins> That's some packages marked i586 that have i686 instructions in them
20:54:33 <DavidWHodgins> That's not supposed to happen, but some packages have wrong compiler options
20:54:33 <wilcal> warrent a bug being written?
20:54:34 <DavidWHodgins> There are not many, and as far as I know none for packages on the iso images so they can be fixed later as they are identified
20:54:58 <wilcal> Ok lets move on to:
20:54:59 <wilcal> #topic Anything else?
20:55:09 <wilcal> I don't have anything
20:55:20 <wilcal> except to wait about 48-hours
20:55:28 <DavidWHodgins> Sunny day here finally! :-)
20:55:43 <wilcal> sunny windy and cook in Las Vegas today
20:55:47 <wilcal> cool
20:55:56 <DavidWHodgins> +1C here right now
20:56:01 <MageiaTJ> Warmed up again here yesterday.
20:56:06 <wilcal> OK thanks all for being here. Especially David
20:56:13 <wilcal> We'll do it again next week
20:56:18 <wilcal> Countdown time
20:56:19 <MageiaTJ> Turned my driveway into a sheet of ice.
20:56:22 <wilcal> T-5
20:56:25 <DavidWHodgins> Thanks again everyone!
20:56:26 <joeghi> DavidWHodgins: there were a few, flac, ligraphene, etc., the one that were identified lately were posted in ML in the thread.
20:56:32 <MageiaTJ> All I can do to walk on it.
20:56:42 <wilcal> T-4
20:56:49 <wilcal> T-3
20:56:54 <wilcal> T-2
20:56:56 <wilcal> Bye all
20:56:59 <wilcal> T-1
20:57:02 <wilcal> #endmeeting