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20:02:02 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Who's new? - If you are then come and say hello
20:02:17 <DavidWHodgins> Guygoye_: Welcome to the qa team!
20:02:39 <DavidWHodgins> Anyone else here who hasn't been to a qa team irc meeting before?
20:03:03 <Guygoye_> Thank you!
20:03:36 <DavidWHodgins> Guygoye_: Your first language is French, correct?
20:03:51 <MageiaTJ> Guygoye: Welcome again!
20:04:45 <Benmc> good morning QA
20:05:01 <DavidWHodgins> Anyone like to volunteer to mentor Guygoye_ in the procedures for testing, oking, and validating updates? Preferably in the same time zone
20:05:40 <Guygoye_> I asked to Aroud
20:06:53 <DavidWHodgins> He doesn't seem to be present (logged in does not always mean present), so probably best to ask again on the mailing list.
20:07:17 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Testing Mageia 8 RC - 2nd qa version of ISO images.
20:07:20 <ZekeMX> Welcom Guygoye
20:07:57 <DavidWHodgins> How's everyone making out with the latest build of the RC iso images?
20:08:29 <DavidWHodgins> I've seen the reports of nviida problems. Anything other than that to watch for?
20:08:34 <ZekeMX> Good for me. exte. that on classic installed I Cannot change avatas
20:08:35 <MageiaTJ> I just did a clean Plasma install on my Probook, and the slow Firefox start-up problem seems to have disappeared.
20:08:40 <Benmc> have had 2 issues -  diff hardware
20:08:47 <ZekeMX> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28095
20:08:49 <[mbot> [ 28095 – Avatar Change not working on Classic Install Mageia 8 but does work on Live ]
20:09:40 <Benmc> x86 Ci install crashed part way through. reboot and completed without issues
20:10:07 <auroud_85[m]> <DavidWHodgins "He doesn't seem to be present (l"> I will
20:10:16 <DavidWHodgins> Ah. That is something I've never bothered with. I always just use whatever default avatar the system selects.
20:10:29 <Benmc> 1st reboot of i586 stapped at ctrl+d or root password.  ran drakx11 and rebooted ok
20:10:42 <DavidWHodgins> auroud_85[m]: Great. Thanks
20:11:16 <stroibe974> hello ! I installed the 2nd version of RC in VM and took the opportunity to make screenshots (in French) for the documentation. Everything went fine – the keyboard layout problem I mentionned on the first pad (grub password) is still there but nothing bad except this!
20:11:29 <DavidWHodgins> Benmc: Did you check to see what video driver it was selecting without xorg.conf being present?
20:11:38 <auroud_85[m]> AFK at night work here.
20:12:02 <stroibe974> (I installed form live-plasma just like the other day)
20:12:37 <Benmc> no, drakx11 picked the intel 810 as expected
20:12:59 <DavidWHodgins> stroibe974: The lang problem was due to keeping old /home settings without utf8, correct?
20:13:39 <Benmc> will rerun the install and see what happens
20:13:40 <stroibe974> DavidWHodgins: I couldn't tell, sorry
20:13:41 <DavidWHodgins> Benmc: That may have been fixed by the latest ldetect update
20:13:46 <MageiaTJ> I see that even now there are new packages coming in. "urpmi --auto-update" caught some this afternoon.
20:14:30 <Benmc> only other isue of note is bug 28902
20:14:32 <[mbot> Bug: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28902
20:14:54 <Benmc> bug 28092
20:14:56 <[mbot> Bug: ['Mageia Welcome: Release notes and Errata open incorrect web pages for English at least', 'UNCONFIRMED', 'Mageia Bug Squad'] https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28092
20:15:05 <Benmc> fingers!!!
20:16:29 <DavidWHodgins> I'll see if I can recreate that problem after the meeting
20:17:20 <auroud_85[m]> <DavidWHodgins "I'll see if I can recreate that "> Lewis can reproduce
20:17:26 <Benmc> 2 bugs, polari and hugin have been fixed so  software wise, looking pretty good
20:17:33 <Benmc> Like the new artwork too
20:18:04 <DavidWHodgins> auroud_85[m]: Ok. Thanks. Just skimmed the report at this point.
20:18:24 <stroibe974> the new artwork is great ;)
20:19:11 <Benmc> installer release notes is Mga8, so good work there too.
20:19:12 <DavidWHodgins> So clearly we'll need at least one more build to fix the nvidia problem (when the bug cause has been fixed). In the meantime, please test the images as much as possible.
20:19:40 <DavidWHodgins> Yeah, make sure to watch for any references to Mageia 7 still present.
20:20:14 <DavidWHodgins> I tend to miss little things like that
20:20:14 <Benmc> can a mga7.rpm check be done?
20:20:43 <Benmc> shouldnt be any this late
20:21:34 <DavidWHodgins> Just checked. The live xfce i586 iso still has x11-driver-video-geode-2.11.19-4.mga7
20:21:51 <DavidWHodgins> That's the only mga7 rpm package on any of the iso images.
20:22:39 <Benmc> best get it updated too
20:22:56 <MageiaTJ> Dave, if the RC will be soon, the Official can't be far behind. Is it time to update the contributors list?
20:23:55 <DavidWHodgins> Yes. I'll open a bug report for that. Added to my todo list. :-)
20:24:08 <Benmc> you need longer arms
20:24:27 <auroud_85[m]> <DavidWHodgins "That's the only mga7 rpm package"> mga7.rpm are tracked in bugzilla. They are unbuildable one.
20:24:31 <DavidWHodgins> Or pay better attention to my todo list. That item has been there for a while.
20:25:14 <DavidWHodgins> Does it even work in the current x11 in mga8?
20:26:22 <DavidWHodgins> Packages that don't build in mga8 are supposed to either be fixed or dropped by this point in the release cycle
20:26:57 <auroud_85[m]> <DavidWHodgins "Packages that don't build in mga"> I'll ask neoclus on that
20:27:19 <auroud_85[m]> s/neoclus/neoclust
20:27:33 <DavidWHodgins> Make sure to cc Martin, as it's on the iso image
20:27:36 <Benmc> https://www.x.org/wiki/GeodeDriver/  last entry was 6 months ago
20:28:53 <auroud_85[m]> <DavidWHodgins "Make sure to cc Martin, as it's "> Will do it.
20:29:21 <DavidWHodgins> Just checking the mailing lists to see if I can find anything about it there.
20:30:45 <auroud_85[m]> What about the GIMP in devel version in M8?
20:30:50 <DavidWHodgins> Found Bug 27552
20:31:43 <DavidWHodgins> No response on it since it was reported
20:32:15 <Benmc> only remaining application bug for me is xine bug 27926
20:32:17 <[mbot> Bug: ['xine exits silently when trying to play .mp4 or .mov', 'NEW', 'All Packagers'] https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27926
20:32:31 <Benmc> it is the default for xfce
20:34:02 <DavidWHodgins> I've updated bug 27552 and marked it as a release blocker
20:34:04 <[mbot> Bug: ['mga7 suffix for package x11-driver-video-geode', 'NEW', 'Kernel and Drivers maintainers'] https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27552
20:35:06 <auroud_85[m]> Yeah.
20:35:06 <auroud_85[m]> Tracker for mga7 RPM is bug 27495
20:35:08 <[mbot> Bug: ['[TRACKER] Packages with mga7 suffix in Cauldron', 'NEW', 'All Packagers'] https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27495
20:36:05 <DavidWHodgins> auroud_85[m]: Yes. bug 27552 is already marked as blocking bug 27495
20:36:07 <[mbot> Bug: ['mga7 suffix for package x11-driver-video-geode', 'NEW', 'Kernel and Drivers maintainers'] https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27552
20:36:08 <[mbot> Bug: ['[TRACKER] Packages with mga7 suffix in Cauldron', 'NEW', 'All Packagers'] https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27495
20:36:51 <DavidWHodgins> I'm less worried about .mga7 packages that are not on the iso images as they can be fixed after the iso images are released. The ones on iso images can not.
20:37:33 <DavidWHodgins> Ok, let's move on
20:37:36 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Testing updates - Any questions or problems - List is very large
20:37:53 <DavidWHodgins> The list of updates waiting for testing is very large.
20:38:36 <auroud_85[m]> We miss Hermann.
20:38:48 <MageiaTJ> Lots of stuff there that's way over my head. Server stuff, mostly.
20:39:05 <DavidWHodgins> While iso testing is important, please don't let the list get too long.  Most of the https://madb.mageia.org/tools/updates bug reports are security reports
20:39:08 <[mbot> [ Mageia App Db - Current Update candidates ]
20:40:11 <DavidWHodgins> There are a lot of updates there for packages I've never used too. Worst case, just ensure the update installs cleanly over the prior version.
20:40:27 <MageiaTJ> I can pass things through on a clean install if I have to, but I don't like it.
20:41:36 <DavidWHodgins> Same here. I'd normally prefer to spend the extra time learning how to use a given package, but with this kind of backlog, that's not an option.
20:41:46 <auroud_85[m]> <DavidWHodgins "There are a lot of updates there"> This is a one-shot way.
20:42:40 <DavidWHodgins> When a security update sits there for a month because no one in qa knows how to test it, that is not good.
20:44:06 <DavidWHodgins> I'll go over the list over the next few days rather then focus on iso testing. Will test those that I can, and just test for clean install over the prior version for those I can't.
20:44:29 <DavidWHodgins> Ok. Moving on
20:44:32 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Anything else?
20:44:43 <MageiaTJ> Well, I'll wade into it too and see what I can do.
20:44:51 <DavidWHodgins> Thanks.
20:45:02 <DavidWHodgins> Anyone have anything else they would like to discuss?
20:45:08 <auroud_85[m]> Same.
20:45:12 <auroud_85[m]> Nope.
20:45:27 <DavidWHodgins> Looks like countdown time then.
20:45:30 <DavidWHodgins> t - 5
20:45:34 <DavidWHodgins> t - 4
20:45:36 <DavidWHodgins> t - 3
20:45:39 <DavidWHodgins> t - 2
20:45:41 <DavidWHodgins> t - 1
20:45:54 <DavidWHodgins> Thanks for coming everyone. I'll post the links to the logs to the ml
20:46:00 <DavidWHodgins> #endmeeting