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20:02:03 <wilcal> #topic Firefox slow start
20:02:25 <wilcal> SO as I understand it people are experiencing a slow start up of FIrefox
20:03:05 <wilcal> What I did was to give FF the best environment to start and get to a working window
20:03:14 <wilcal> Hi tar
20:03:19 <wilcal> talking FF start up
20:03:20 <tarazed> Hi Bill
20:03:37 <Benmc> Tarazed, good evening
20:04:03 <wilcal> So using my new Dell Laptop ( i10, 4 cores 8 threads, SSD drive
20:04:11 <tarazed> Yeah, I had never really noticed  it as being slow, with or without saved tabs
20:04:27 <tarazed> Hi Ben
20:04:40 <wilcal> First open the preferences iin FF and delete all cache
20:04:55 <wilcal> so no FF nothing locally to go to
20:05:17 <wilcal> then open a terminal and launch from a commoad line
20:05:39 <wilcal> [wilcal@localhost ~]$ firefox
20:05:44 <tarazed> Going to try that now
20:06:04 <Benmc> maybe I should introduce you to a slow FF start : +4 minutes on the office i5 Win7 computer every morning
20:06:07 <tarazed> $ firefox &
20:07:04 <wilcal> so when I open FF from a terminal, on an M8 x86_64 platfrom time to start is less then a second
20:07:18 <wilcal> bang it's open
20:07:33 <wilcal> I've a pretty good internet connection
20:08:00 <Benmc> try this but first position the mouse at the expected "x": $ time firefox, and close the window as soon as yous see it
20:08:20 <Benmc> allow for your reaction time
20:08:22 <wilcal> So this also works:
20:08:26 <wilcal> [wilcal@localhost ~]$ firefox https://www.cnn.com
20:08:32 <tarazed> Yep, that was definitely quick.  There was 1GB of disk space allocated for cookies and cache
20:08:54 <wilcal> Time to the open CNN wirdow here is easily less then 2-seconds
20:09:11 <wilcal> That's with an empty FF cache
20:09:32 <wilcal> Very impressive little Dell laptop
20:09:53 <tarazed> madb came up in less than 2 seconds from bookmark.
20:10:27 <wilcal> So I'm not really seeing any log term startup of FF
20:11:27 <wilcal> So we are in agreement here given a controled platform FF starts instantly
20:11:47 <tarazed> Looks like it
20:11:47 <wilcal> but a slow internet or a very busy platform will slow things down
20:12:29 <wilcal> So now this is in the QA record and we ask people to comment on the ML if there is somtthing else going on here
20:13:14 <wilcal> Anymore on this issue anyone wants to comment on
20:13:19 <Benmc> hardware also makes a difference., my 8 y/o laps typically 3 sec to prersented interface tab
20:13:35 <wilcal> That's about as expected
20:14:09 <wilcal> Ok
20:14:11 <wilcal> #topic Anything else?
20:14:18 <wilcal> Lets make this short
20:14:28 <wilcal> On to the Holiday
20:15:04 <Benmc> Christmas here already
20:15:12 <wilcal> I'll put a comment in the QA ML
20:15:20 <wilcal> thanks for being here all
20:15:20 <tarazed> Happy Christmas Ben
20:15:24 <wilcal> COunt down time
20:15:28 <wilcal> T-5
20:15:39 <tarazed> And happy christmas to everybody
20:15:42 <Benmc> and to you all
20:15:46 <wilcal> I hope so
20:15:50 <wilcal> T-4
20:15:54 <wilcal> T-3
20:15:58 <wilcal> T-2
20:15:59 <wilcal> Bye all
20:16:03 <wilcal> T-1
20:16:06 <tarazed> Bye
20:16:06 <wilcal> #endmeeting