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20:00:47 <wilcal> hello all who are here
20:01:03 <wilcal> #topic Who's new?
20:01:22 <bri_an> MageiaTJ welcome
20:01:26 <wilcal> Hi MT
20:01:34 <MageiaTJ> Hi.
20:01:50 <wilcal> Lets get right to it
20:01:52 <wilcal> #topic M8 testing
20:02:04 <wilcal> How's things going with the new ISOs
20:02:15 <bri_an> my perspective quite well
20:02:31 <wilcal> I found a bad problem with the Live-DVD Plasma :-((
20:02:35 <bri_an> issues with Kernel 5.10
20:02:41 <bri_an> ah do tell
20:03:36 <wilcal> Desktop install, Plasma Live-DVD x86_64 on the Live-DVD Dolphin works fine. After install Dolphin sig faults
20:03:58 <bri_an> yes did see a mention of that
20:04:04 <wilcal> Kinda makes working with it really hard.
20:04:15 <wilcal> It's an upstream problem I guess
20:04:29 <bri_an> randomly or based on specific actions
20:04:52 <wilcal> I ran through Gnome and Xfce today and their installed file managers work fine
20:05:06 <wilcal> Hi tar
20:05:16 <wilcal> we're talk'n M8 isos
20:05:17 <tarazed> Hi wilcal
20:05:30 <tarazed> Had no problems lately
20:06:21 <wilcal> There were over 300 packages updated a couple days ago so that makes the last isos kinda obsolete but sitll test them
20:06:35 <wilcal> I haven't tried the CI's yet
20:07:08 <tarazed> They ran OK on several machines here with lots of DEs.
20:07:47 <wilcal> Ya the updates worked here
20:07:56 <wilcal> There were no updates today
20:08:43 <wilcal> Oh..... the repo was EXTREMELY dynamic today so I could not get the installs to cleanly set up the repo
20:08:51 <bri_an> ci's working as expected for me.  Cinnamon issue was addressed
20:08:51 <tarazed> Have had to slow down a bit what with Christmas abd  normal updates
20:09:25 <bri_an> the main repo medium is in flux, so new updates until it is back up
20:09:26 <wilcal> week of Jan 3 it will pick up again
20:09:35 <bri_an> true
20:09:42 <wilcal> "in flux" understatement there
20:10:34 <wilcal> the isodumper thing is still an issue
20:10:54 <wilcal> I would suspect another set of ISOs soon
20:11:09 <bri_an> sounds good - I look forward to vetting those
20:11:47 <wilcal> Lets move on
20:11:49 <wilcal> #topic Testing Updates & Backports
20:12:04 <wilcal> I see Vbox finally got pushed
20:12:39 <wilcal> and they were a lot of packages pushed into the repo after my update here at 4AM
20:12:48 <wilcal> so tomorrow should be pretty exciting
20:13:06 <MageiaTJ> Still has a problem with 32-bit guest additions. Will have to file a new bug.
20:13:13 <wilcal> List is shorter
20:13:26 <wilcal> anyting on the list hat needs discxussion
20:13:36 <bri_an> nothing here
20:14:21 <tarazed> Things like strace are awkward because they need develop skillsets.
20:14:29 <tarazed> developer
20:14:34 <wilcal> Career builder
20:14:56 <wilcal> If you know the package well you get lots of job offers
20:15:17 <wilcal> even in todays environment
20:15:39 <wilcal> Lets move on
20:15:41 <wilcal> #topic Anything else?
20:15:44 <tarazed> No one is hiring 81 year olds though
20:15:50 <wilcal> Anything else?
20:16:04 <wilcal> 75 year olds either
20:16:30 <wilcal> Note. I purhcased a Raspberry Pi 4 and that thing is over the top
20:16:30 <MageiaTJ> 71 either.
20:16:52 <bri_an> Pi 4 - excellent.  How much RAM?
20:16:54 <wilcal> Works perfectly with Mageia NFS
20:16:54 <MageiaTJ> We're a regular Good Ol' Boys club.
20:17:08 <wilcal> I bought the big one 8GB
20:17:09 <bri_an> TJ  - I think you have a lifetime job
20:17:19 <bri_an> nice seemed like it was hard to find
20:17:27 <wilcal> Big demand
20:17:48 <wilcal> The just announced Pi 400 is going to be a game changer
20:18:08 <wilcal> It's a $100 Desktop PC
20:18:33 <tarazed> My fileserver is an Entroware Aura, 16 GB I think - started out with Ubuntu Mate and overwrote it.
20:18:35 <bri_an> Yeah - are the packagers experimenting with PI editions of MGA?
20:19:20 <wilcal> There was a couple who were tinkerining. I think they gave up do to the slowness of the Pi 3 and earlier
20:19:40 <wilcal> The 4 is definitely a candidate for Mageia Xfce
20:20:17 <wilcal> Anything else
20:20:26 <bri_an> I read about Pi 400.  It should be interesting.  With Apple's M1 proving a fast ARM based is very possible....
20:21:04 <bri_an> I have a Pi3 - yes limited with memory.  I do use it for some streaming, etc.
20:21:19 <wilcal> Do note that the Pi repo can get bogged down from time to time due to high traffic
20:21:23 <bri_an> Anyhow - nothing from me.  I'll keep plugging away
20:21:38 <wilcal> OK time for the countdown
20:21:54 <wilcal> I should be here next week but things will be really slow
20:22:13 <bri_an> I should be around as well
20:22:13 <wilcal> T-5
20:22:20 <wilcal> Thanks all for being here
20:22:45 <MageiaTJ> Christmas Eve. My mother's birthday.
20:22:54 <wilcal> Note that Sin City USA ( Las Vegas ) is usually the place to be at Crhistmas New Years
20:23:02 <wilcal> this year nothing is happeing
20:23:06 <wilcal> T-4
20:23:17 <wilcal> T-3
20:23:20 <wilcal> Bye all
20:23:25 <wilcal> T-2
20:23:25 <tarazed> Bye everybody
20:23:29 <wilcal> T-1
20:23:33 <wilcal> #endmeeting