20:00:39 <wilcal> #startmeeting 20:00:39 <Inigo_Montoya_> Meeting started Thu Dec 17 20:00:39 2020 UTC. The chair is wilcal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:00:39 <Inigo_Montoya_> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 20:00:47 <wilcal> hello all who are here 20:01:03 <wilcal> #topic Who's new? 20:01:22 <bri_an> MageiaTJ welcome 20:01:26 <wilcal> Hi MT 20:01:34 <MageiaTJ> Hi. 20:01:50 <wilcal> Lets get right to it 20:01:52 <wilcal> #topic M8 testing 20:02:04 <wilcal> How's things going with the new ISOs 20:02:15 <bri_an> my perspective quite well 20:02:31 <wilcal> I found a bad problem with the Live-DVD Plasma :-(( 20:02:35 <bri_an> issues with Kernel 5.10 20:02:41 <bri_an> ah do tell 20:03:36 <wilcal> Desktop install, Plasma Live-DVD x86_64 on the Live-DVD Dolphin works fine. After install Dolphin sig faults 20:03:58 <bri_an> yes did see a mention of that 20:04:04 <wilcal> Kinda makes working with it really hard. 20:04:15 <wilcal> It's an upstream problem I guess 20:04:29 <bri_an> randomly or based on specific actions 20:04:52 <wilcal> I ran through Gnome and Xfce today and their installed file managers work fine 20:05:06 <wilcal> Hi tar 20:05:16 <wilcal> we're talk'n M8 isos 20:05:17 <tarazed> Hi wilcal 20:05:30 <tarazed> Had no problems lately 20:06:21 <wilcal> There were over 300 packages updated a couple days ago so that makes the last isos kinda obsolete but sitll test them 20:06:35 <wilcal> I haven't tried the CI's yet 20:07:08 <tarazed> They ran OK on several machines here with lots of DEs. 20:07:47 <wilcal> Ya the updates worked here 20:07:56 <wilcal> There were no updates today 20:08:43 <wilcal> Oh..... the repo was EXTREMELY dynamic today so I could not get the installs to cleanly set up the repo 20:08:51 <bri_an> ci's working as expected for me. Cinnamon issue was addressed 20:08:51 <tarazed> Have had to slow down a bit what with Christmas abd normal updates 20:09:25 <bri_an> the main repo medium is in flux, so new updates until it is back up 20:09:26 <wilcal> week of Jan 3 it will pick up again 20:09:35 <bri_an> true 20:09:42 <wilcal> "in flux" understatement there 20:10:34 <wilcal> the isodumper thing is still an issue 20:10:54 <wilcal> I would suspect another set of ISOs soon 20:11:09 <bri_an> sounds good - I look forward to vetting those 20:11:47 <wilcal> Lets move on 20:11:49 <wilcal> #topic Testing Updates & Backports 20:12:04 <wilcal> I see Vbox finally got pushed 20:12:39 <wilcal> and they were a lot of packages pushed into the repo after my update here at 4AM 20:12:48 <wilcal> so tomorrow should be pretty exciting 20:13:06 <MageiaTJ> Still has a problem with 32-bit guest additions. Will have to file a new bug. 20:13:13 <wilcal> List is shorter 20:13:26 <wilcal> anyting on the list hat needs discxussion 20:13:36 <bri_an> nothing here 20:14:21 <tarazed> Things like strace are awkward because they need develop skillsets. 20:14:29 <tarazed> developer 20:14:34 <wilcal> Career builder 20:14:56 <wilcal> If you know the package well you get lots of job offers 20:15:17 <wilcal> even in todays environment 20:15:39 <wilcal> Lets move on 20:15:41 <wilcal> #topic Anything else? 20:15:44 <tarazed> No one is hiring 81 year olds though 20:15:50 <wilcal> Anything else? 20:16:04 <wilcal> 75 year olds either 20:16:30 <wilcal> Note. I purhcased a Raspberry Pi 4 and that thing is over the top 20:16:30 <MageiaTJ> 71 either. 20:16:52 <bri_an> Pi 4 - excellent. How much RAM? 20:16:54 <wilcal> Works perfectly with Mageia NFS 20:16:54 <MageiaTJ> We're a regular Good Ol' Boys club. 20:17:08 <wilcal> I bought the big one 8GB 20:17:09 <bri_an> TJ - I think you have a lifetime job 20:17:19 <bri_an> nice seemed like it was hard to find 20:17:27 <wilcal> Big demand 20:17:48 <wilcal> The just announced Pi 400 is going to be a game changer 20:18:08 <wilcal> It's a $100 Desktop PC 20:18:33 <tarazed> My fileserver is an Entroware Aura, 16 GB I think - started out with Ubuntu Mate and overwrote it. 20:18:35 <bri_an> Yeah - are the packagers experimenting with PI editions of MGA? 20:19:20 <wilcal> There was a couple who were tinkerining. I think they gave up do to the slowness of the Pi 3 and earlier 20:19:40 <wilcal> The 4 is definitely a candidate for Mageia Xfce 20:20:17 <wilcal> Anything else 20:20:26 <bri_an> I read about Pi 400. It should be interesting. With Apple's M1 proving a fast ARM based is very possible.... 20:21:04 <bri_an> I have a Pi3 - yes limited with memory. I do use it for some streaming, etc. 20:21:19 <wilcal> Do note that the Pi repo can get bogged down from time to time due to high traffic 20:21:23 <bri_an> Anyhow - nothing from me. I'll keep plugging away 20:21:38 <wilcal> OK time for the countdown 20:21:54 <wilcal> I should be here next week but things will be really slow 20:22:13 <bri_an> I should be around as well 20:22:13 <wilcal> T-5 20:22:20 <wilcal> Thanks all for being here 20:22:45 <MageiaTJ> Christmas Eve. My mother's birthday. 20:22:54 <wilcal> Note that Sin City USA ( Las Vegas ) is usually the place to be at Crhistmas New Years 20:23:02 <wilcal> this year nothing is happeing 20:23:06 <wilcal> T-4 20:23:17 <wilcal> T-3 20:23:20 <wilcal> Bye all 20:23:25 <wilcal> T-2 20:23:25 <tarazed> Bye everybody 20:23:29 <wilcal> T-1 20:23:33 <wilcal> #endmeeting