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20:01:37 <wilcal> Welcome to this weeks QA meeting
20:01:51 <wilcal> #topic Who's new?
20:02:02 <wilcal> Anyone new here today?
20:02:21 <wilcal> Nope
20:02:23 <wilcal> #topic M8 testing
20:02:33 <wilcal> LOts of action this week in M8
20:02:49 <wilcal> A rerespin of the isos
20:03:11 <wilcal> The lastest came in a couple days ago
20:03:34 <wilcal> I looked at all 4 Live-DVD's this morning and they all worked in Vbox
20:03:48 <Benmc> ther may yet be another, courtesy of  bug 27796
20:03:50 <[mbot> Bug: ['Memory test can cause reboot (Toshiba Portege R930)', 'REOPENED', 'Martin Whitaker'] https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27796
20:03:58 <wilcal> Oh Oh
20:04:25 <wilcal> Oh my
20:04:44 <tarazed> Most of my tests have been faultless but two older machines have frozen up when idle.
20:05:16 <tarazed> nvidia and the latest kernel are in the frame but it is old hardware.
20:05:20 <wilcal> Pretty good here
20:06:00 <DavidWHodgins> Sorry I'm late
20:06:09 <tarazed> Hi Fave
20:06:16 <tarazed> Dave
20:06:38 <wilcal> Dave is here welcome Dave
20:06:42 <DavidWHodgins> Regarding bug 27796, I don't consider that a blocker for the beta2 iso images
20:06:44 <[mbot> Bug: ['Memory test can cause reboot (Toshiba Portege R930)', 'REOPENED', 'Martin Whitaker'] https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27796
20:06:56 <wilcal> #chair DavidWHodgins
20:06:56 <Inigo_Montoya_> Current chairs: DavidWHodgins wilcal
20:07:14 <wilcal> You've got the gavil Dave
20:07:32 <wilcal> We're talking M8 isos
20:07:37 <DavidWHodgins> My limited testing has all gone well. Anyone find any problems they think are worth holding back the beta 2 iso images?
20:07:37 <auroud_85[m]> <tarazed "Another flashplayer plugin updat"> Hi adobe said it is the last one in release note
20:08:02 <tarazed> Cheers
20:08:09 <auroud_85[m]> <DavidWHodgins "My limited testing has all gone "> No, there is not any issue
20:08:22 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27796
20:08:24 <[mbot> [ 27796 – Memory test can cause reboot (Toshiba Portege R930) ]
20:08:33 <wilcal> That's been mentioned
20:08:40 <auroud_85[m]> Oh sorry
20:08:57 <auroud_85[m]> i586 one this?
20:09:15 <Benmc> both
20:09:55 <auroud_85[m]> Ok
20:10:04 <MageiaTJ> I tried memtest on my ancient Inspiron, with no problems.
20:10:22 <Benmc> beta2 for me has  been a cakewalk, apart from memtest
20:10:42 <DavidWHodgins> Yeah. That's a hardware problem that can be worked around with one test disabled in memtest
20:10:45 <Benmc> lets not get complacent
20:11:31 <wilcal> We probably need Beta 2 to be giving a wider audience
20:12:03 <Benmc> yeah, but  how to get  them to try - and report  problems
20:12:34 <Benmc> rather than try - it has a problem and move opn to something else
20:12:41 <wilcal> Dave, there was a 350 plus update to M8 a couple days ago. Is all that in the latest isos?
20:12:44 <DavidWHodgins> I'll ask on the qa list if anyone has bugs they think should hold the beta 2 release, since many testers are not here. If no objections raised will suggest starting iso roll out tomorrow.
20:12:50 <auroud_85[m]> <Benmc "yeah, but  how to get  them to t"> Sending bugs reports to Bugsquad
20:13:17 <DavidWHodgins> wilcal: That's not enough of a reason to hold the beta 2 iso images. There will always be more updates.
20:13:33 <auroud_85[m]> <wilcal "Dave, there was a 350 plus updat"> I don't think it is Plasma
20:14:00 <DavidWHodgins> Most of it was libreoffice related.
20:14:03 <Benmc> its the later part that I think triers have the problem with, auroud_85
20:14:03 <wilcal> Those things make me nervious
20:14:07 <auroud_85[m]> Plus 20.12 Plasma Applications were released today
20:14:14 <wilcal> It all wnet through here just fine
20:14:24 <DavidWHodgins> brb
20:14:55 <wilcal> If you dodn't notice I found a problem with isodumper
20:15:06 <wilcal> that's still in there
20:15:30 <auroud_85[m]> Papoteur said it was a bug with running isodumper as root
20:15:43 <wilcal> in a terminal in your user directory you need to create mkdir ~/.isodumper
20:15:56 <wilcal> otherwise it won't work
20:16:10 <wilcal> I donno why it worked before
20:16:35 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27786
20:16:37 <[mbot> [ 27786 – Isodumper fails to launch ]
20:17:48 <wilcal> IMO Beta 2 is functional enough to give it a wider release
20:17:56 <DavidWHodgins> back
20:18:03 <wilcal> Hi Dave.
20:18:19 <DavidWHodgins> Ok, let's move on.
20:18:19 <wilcal> I support a wider release of Beta 2
20:18:26 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Testing Mageia 8 Beta 2 - just Released ISOs - How's it going?
20:18:33 <DavidWHodgins> Oops
20:18:42 <wilcal> #topic Testing Updates & Backports
20:18:52 <DavidWHodgins> Thanks. :-)
20:18:59 <wilcal> What is holding up Vbox exactly
20:19:14 <wilcal> cuz that's holding up an important kernel
20:19:15 <DavidWHodgins> 32 bit guest additions
20:19:54 <DavidWHodgins> That's needed for i586 guest images
20:20:32 <DavidWHodgins> Anyone use jackit sound systems?
20:20:44 <bri_an> I don't use those
20:21:29 <wilcal> Sorry not here
20:21:32 <DavidWHodgins> IIRC, for jackit, we've approved those just based on a clean install over the prior version.
20:21:46 <DavidWHodgins> I expect that will have to happen again.
20:21:52 <wilcal> I've turned most of my multimedia stuff over to my Raspberry Pi platforms
20:22:23 <DavidWHodgins> Anyone use a smart card reader?
20:22:37 <bri_an> nope
20:22:44 <wilcal> credit card of sd card
20:23:04 <auroud_85[m]> No.
20:23:06 <DavidWHodgins> credit/debit/security card
20:23:14 <wilcal> no I do not
20:23:31 <DavidWHodgins> So that will likely also just be a clean update test.
20:23:38 <auroud_85[m]> Just a side note, ghibo has made a x86_64 version of chromium available to Cauldron.
20:23:45 <MageiaTJ> Not here. We make people pay with cash.
20:23:55 <DavidWHodgins> lol
20:24:34 <wilcal> Scary here in the States July/Aug when cash gfrom banks kinda ran out
20:24:36 <auroud_85[m]> Cash + covid-19... Good association here in France... Lol
20:24:48 <DavidWHodgins> I haven't looked at the rest, but the list looks familar as things we've tested before.
20:25:30 <DavidWHodgins> So it's just a matter of everyone remembering to keep testing updates as well as iso images.
20:25:46 <tarazed> Not so easy.
20:25:47 <wilcal> List is moderate length
20:26:28 <wilcal> Anything needs to be discussed on the list
20:26:37 <DavidWHodgins> True, but nothing that's been inactive for more than 4 days.
20:27:05 <DavidWHodgins> As always, please start with the important security updates at the top of the list
20:27:24 <auroud_85[m]> As you said David, 27681 needs a repackaging
20:28:17 <DavidWHodgins> Added the feedback keyword to that one.
20:28:49 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Anything else?
20:29:02 <DavidWHodgins> Anyone have anything else to discuss?
20:29:20 <wilcal> This is a problem if you can put in a word David:
20:29:21 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26998
20:29:23 <[mbot> [ 26998 – Bluegriffon fails to launch: usr/lib64/bluegriffon/libxul.so No such file or directory. Also, is M7 package ]
20:29:48 <wilcal> Otherwise we don't have an HTML editor on M8
20:30:02 <auroud_85[m]> Also: this one: 27788
20:30:32 <auroud_85[m]> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27788
20:30:34 <[mbot> [ 27788 – kalarm fails to Import a ~/kalarm-export.ics file ]
20:31:19 <DavidWHodgins> Ok. I'll test both of those later today.
20:31:22 <wilcal> Anything else on Bugs to be tested
20:32:01 <DavidWHodgins> Nothing here
20:32:01 <wilcal> Lets move on then
20:32:02 <wilcal> #topic Anything else?
20:32:11 <MageiaTJ> Bitcoin... Seems to me that we couldn't find anybody that uses it last time around. May have to pass it along as a clean install.
20:32:27 <auroud_85[m]> Yeah.
20:32:36 <DavidWHodgins> Agreed. Bitcoin is a ponzi scheme in my opinion.
20:32:39 <auroud_85[m]> Nothing else for me.
20:32:43 <wilcal> Bitcoin application?
20:32:56 <wilcal> I'm tapped out
20:33:02 <MageiaTJ> bug 27731
20:33:05 <[mbot> Bug: ['bitcoin new security issues CVE-2019-15947 and CVE-2020-14198', 'NEW', 'QA Team'] https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27731
20:33:54 <wilcal> OOooOOoo I'm pretty sure I wouldn't put that on my computer
20:34:04 <bri_an> oh goodness
20:34:06 <wilcal> Anything else
20:34:21 <DavidWHodgins> It's not a miner IIRC, it's for accessing bitcoin accounts and transfers
20:34:36 <Benmc> back to M* for a min.  32 CI *seems* to be missing couple of Applications - Ktorrent and K3b. will lok further to see it they were removed by the installer due to a incompatability
20:35:48 <Benmc> M8
20:35:52 <DavidWHodgins> Benmc: ktorrent is in the idx file. Is it not on the i586 iso?
20:36:01 <wilcal> I generallly don't deal with 32-bit stuff anyomore but I do have a Vbox 32-bit Gnome test client
20:36:12 <wilcal> I have no more 32-bit computers
20:36:29 <Benmc> I have to wait for Lewis script to finish, but they are not in the App menu
20:36:39 <wilcal> When I tried a 32-bit Mageia Live-DVD on my new Dell Inspiron it went NUTS!!!!
20:37:15 <DavidWHodgins> Please explain. :-)
20:37:25 <Benmc> 10 left to test
20:37:26 <wilcal> IF it can't find a bootable media it complains LOUDLY!!!
20:37:45 <Benmc> that would be because it is not 32bit UEFI?
20:38:11 <wilcal> Still scares me when it happens
20:38:23 <wilcal> Anything else
20:38:48 <wilcal> Thaks all for being here
20:39:11 <DavidWHodgins> Countdown time
20:39:16 <DavidWHodgins> t - 5
20:39:18 <DavidWHodgins> 4
20:39:18 <wilcal> Please be safe Sin CIty USA ( Las Vegas ) is all but locked down
20:39:22 <DavidWHodgins> 3
20:39:24 <wilcal> Bye all
20:39:25 <DavidWHodgins> 2
20:39:27 <DavidWHodgins> 1
20:39:29 <bri_an> have a good week everyone
20:39:31 <DavidWHodgins> Thanks everyone
20:39:36 <DavidWHodgins> #endmeeting