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19:16:42 <bri_an> hi TJ
19:16:51 <MageiaTJ> #chair Benmc
19:16:51 <Inigo_Montoya_> Current chairs: Benmc MageiaTJ
19:17:06 <bri_an> hi Benmc
19:17:20 <MageiaTJ> #topic Who's new?
19:17:36 <MageiaTJ> Anybody new here today?
19:18:37 <MageiaTJ> Guess not. Let's see if I can remember wilcal's agenda...
19:19:08 <MageiaTJ> #Topic Mageia 8 Beta
19:19:35 <MageiaTJ> Is anything new happening on this front?
19:20:03 <MageiaTJ> Wilcal said something about a huge update.
19:20:19 <Luigi12> not sure what that meant
19:20:32 <Luigi12> maybe kernel 5.9 or a Plasma update
19:21:04 <rindolf> MageiaTJ: i'm using mga8beta x86-64 on my desktop machine - works decently
19:21:29 <Luigi12> I'm a few weeks behind on the dev ml, so I don't know what all's going on, beyond what I see on pkgsubmit every day
19:21:52 <MageiaTJ> I still haven't looked recently. Too busy for much but the farm the last two months.
19:21:53 <Luigi12> we still have over 500 non-buildable packages
19:22:01 <Luigi12> progress has been made on the Java stack upgrade
19:22:17 <Luigi12> haven't looked at dependency issues recently, probably still plenty of those
19:22:22 <Luigi12> plenty of security issues still of course
19:23:00 <Luigi12> what may make sense is to do another beta, not as a step forward in the development process, but just to get an update ISO out there, just a milestone basically
19:23:08 <Luigi12> probably after kernel 5.9 gets stabilized
19:23:25 <Luigi12> sounds like nvidia* stuff needs fixed again, probably virtualbox, who knows what else
19:23:56 <ZekeMX> kernel 5.9  works great on my PC
19:24:09 <Luigi12> fortunately we don't really *need* to rush too much, as Mageia 7 has kernel 5.7, so it has pretty good hardware support
19:24:19 <Luigi12> looks like joeghi is going to move us to a newer Mesa branch in mga7 too
19:24:27 <Benmc> had to step away for a bit  -customer
19:25:12 <MageiaTJ> So we're still plugging along.
19:25:18 <Luigi12> yep
19:25:32 <Benmc> yes,
19:25:41 <Luigi12> I think about 200 non-buildable packages have been fixed since I last talked to y'all
19:25:45 <MageiaTJ> Well, that's better than being hopelessly stuck.
19:25:49 <Luigi12> so people are working on stuff
19:26:05 <Luigi12> if we do a hard freeze, then we'll be hopelessly stuck, but that's a discussion for another day :D
19:26:09 <Benmc> still waiting for new stable plasma, gnome and ?
19:26:25 <Luigi12> I think the plasma's in updates_testing already
19:27:11 <bri_an> Wow - they published 5.20 quickly then
19:27:12 <bri_an> nice
19:27:32 <Benmc> probably nearly time for a L.O update as well
19:27:57 <MageiaTJ> Should we wait for the nvidia and vbox issues to get fixed before another beta release?
19:28:04 <Luigi12> yeah
19:28:21 <Luigi12> then it should at least be in pretty good working condition overall
19:28:34 <MageiaTJ> Then it's pretty much in upstream's hands.
19:28:40 <Benmc> I see that " release when ready"  policy kicking in
19:28:50 <Luigi12> plus it'd be nice to do another Cauldron ISO to get wider testing before we start backporting kernel 5.9 to mga7
19:28:50 <MageiaTJ> Always.
19:29:53 <Benmc> anything else for M8beta?
19:30:05 <MageiaTJ> Anything more before we move on?
19:30:22 <MageiaTJ> Great minds, Ben.
19:30:38 <Luigi12> the force is strong with you :D
19:30:51 <Benmc> something about fools  if I rcall
19:31:09 <MageiaTJ> #topic Testing Updates - any questions?
19:31:53 <Luigi12> libuv can be tested with nodejs
19:32:06 <Luigi12> the ones with OK's can be validated
19:32:28 <MageiaTJ> I can do thaat tonight.
19:32:29 <Luigi12> hopefully joselp or someone with the hardware can test dkms-rtl8192eu
19:32:59 <MageiaTJ> What about bug 27239?
19:33:02 <[mbot> Bug: ['PHP regular bugfix update 7.3.23', 'NEW', 'QA Team'] https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27239
19:33:15 <MageiaTJ> Oops - customer.
19:33:49 <Luigi12> sounds like it's as good as it's gonna be, so as long as it generally works, can give that the OK
19:33:51 <Benmc> been there...
19:35:09 <Luigi12> the rest should be pretty straightforward
19:35:24 <Benmc> seems like a new kernel up shortly, so be prepared for some more testing
19:35:53 <Luigi12> it'll probably still be a bit until we move it to mga7, nvidia bits and virtualbox need updated first
19:36:12 <Luigi12> as you noticed I pushed some smaller things yesterday, will continue with that as upstream releases them
19:36:28 <Benmc> yes, saw that
19:37:04 <Benmc> anything else / problems with testing updates??
19:37:31 <ZekeMX> Bug 27376 - Partition Table gets damaged after poweroff.
19:37:44 <ZekeMX> partition table does not get damaged...
19:38:10 <ZekeMX> The sintechi SATA to SD adaptar does not boot unless it has a MBR partition to boot
19:38:21 <Benmc> bug 27376
19:38:23 <[mbot> Bug: ['Partition Table gets damaged after poweroff.', 'NEW', 'Kernel and Drivers maintainers'] https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27376
19:38:36 <MageiaTJ> And another customer...
19:38:49 <ZekeMX> I had to format the microsd as FAT32, make it bootable by installing FreeDOS,
19:39:07 <ZekeMX> then reduce the FAT32 partition to 300mb and then install MGA8
19:40:20 <ZekeMX> now it works great.. I use 3 computes with MGA8 and FreeRDP .. they autoboot and Voila! freeRDP on screen
19:40:58 <Luigi12> nice, guess that's a hardware problem
19:41:10 <Benmc> cool. so a workaround  for the moment
19:41:16 <Luigi12> reminds me of how some newer computers won't let CloneZilla write to the MBR
19:41:21 <rindolf> good night, all - i'm tired and it is kinda late
19:42:03 <Benmc> anythind else, befor Anything Else?
19:42:03 <ZekeMX> I think I installed once MGA7.1 on a lenovo and MGA installer added a FAT32 partition at the begining.. Probably it was only a dream.. LOL....
19:42:16 <ZekeMX> no ben. ;-)
19:42:34 <Benmc> #topic Anything Else
19:43:14 <MageiaTJ> When does Europe change clocks?
19:43:22 <Benmc> Daylight Saving coming to a close for NH soon, so may be a change in meeting time
19:43:27 <MageiaTJ> DO they still change them?
19:43:48 <Benmc> again!
19:43:49 <ZekeMX> BTW, on some Lenovo Machines there is a sound problem... I already open a bug report on this..  echo "options snd-intel-dspcfg dsp_driver=1" > /etc/modprobe.d/alsa.conf
19:44:02 <MageiaTJ> North America changes November 1.
19:44:10 <ZekeMX> is there a chance that the MGA8 installer will do the job when final release?.
19:44:23 <Luigi12> if you get tv to fix it
19:44:32 <Luigi12> make sure Installer is selected as teh component
19:44:51 <Luigi12> you may need to give some dmidecode or some such output so the machine can be identified
19:44:53 <Benmc> if  someone is working on it, definite maybe
19:45:12 <MageiaTJ> I was wondering about when we change the meeting time, that's all.
19:45:19 <Luigi12> or lspcidrake or whatever's needed
19:45:32 <Luigi12> ahh I hate the winter time change :o(
19:45:52 <Benmc> thanks for coming Luigi12, great source of info.
19:46:12 <Luigi12> glad I wasn't (physically) at work this week :D
19:46:24 <Benmc> School shooting?
19:46:32 <Luigi12> yikes no, just teleworking
19:46:48 <Luigi12> usually only go onsite 1-2 days in a week, but I've been there the last few Thursdays so I keep missing the meeting
19:47:03 <MageiaTJ> We farmers invented "work from home."
19:47:09 <Luigi12> :D
19:47:23 <Luigi12> good work if you can find it
19:47:34 <Benmc> or is that "home from work?"
19:47:52 <Luigi12> his home office is outside
19:48:24 <MageiaTJ> Or in my tractor cab.
19:48:34 <Luigi12> hehe, that's your cubicle
19:48:39 <Benmc> something different: my wife purchased a Bumbelbee nest for home pollination.
19:49:15 <Benmc> came with about 70 bees it it - $1.20 each bee
19:49:30 <MageiaTJ> Yes. Bumblebees are supposed to be more efficient pollenators than honey bees.
19:50:11 <Benmc> it was abit cool this morning. 1 poked its nose out the entrance and went back to bed
19:50:14 <MageiaTJ> I have thousands all over the farm. Wild ones, for free.
19:50:55 <Benmc> We also have honey bees
19:51:14 <Luigi12> I was getting the mail yesterday and saw something crawling around on the street that looked like a murder hornet, but I don't think we have those in Maryland so \o/
19:51:57 <ZekeMX> where are you located MageiaTJ?
19:52:13 <MageiaTJ> I got into a nest of the non-murder kind last week. Not fun.
19:52:31 <Benmc> TJ, google says Europe DST stop 25 Oct
19:52:36 <MageiaTJ> I'm in Central New York State, near Syracuse.
19:52:39 <Luigi12> yeah I ran over one with a lawnmower when I was a teenager, got all stung up
19:53:38 <ZekeMX> cool ;-)
19:53:46 <Benmc> theres a few drone  yuotubes of  hornet vs drone, interesting to watch
19:54:03 <MageiaTJ> OK then we change the week after next.
19:54:49 <MageiaTJ> Customer again.
19:55:05 <Benmc> countdown time then
19:55:17 <Benmc> T6
19:55:46 <Benmc> T-5
19:55:55 <ZekeMX> Have a great day, night, weekend Guys
19:55:59 <Benmc> thanks for coming guys
19:56:02 <ZekeMX> Hasta La Vista!
19:56:12 <Benmc> T-4
19:56:31 <Benmc> T-3
19:56:46 <Benmc> T-2
19:57:04 <Benmc> T-1
19:57:07 <MageiaTJ> Ben can you post the links to the logs?
19:57:11 <Benmc> #endmeeting