19:03:18 <wilcal> #startmeeting
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19:03:24 <wilcal> Lets kick this thing off
19:03:36 <wilcal> #topic Who's new?
19:03:43 <wilcal> Anyone new here today?
19:04:11 <wilcal> Nothing
19:04:13 <wilcal> #topic M8 Beta 1 iso testing
19:04:20 <wilcal> Likely another short meeting today
19:04:34 <Benmc> nothingh new to report here
19:04:38 <wilcal> I think M8 has lots of things that are waiting for other things
19:04:46 <auroud85_fr> Yeah M8 Beta1 default Plasma is stable
19:04:53 <wilcal> Still no fix for Vbox
19:04:59 <auroud85_fr> VBOX is OK
19:05:07 <auroud85_fr> updates past week
19:05:29 <wilcal> I tried it a couple days ago and no go. I'll try it again
19:05:33 <auroud85_fr> virtualbox 6.1.14 published and compiled
19:05:45 <auroud85_fr> I run a M7 VM inside M8 Cauldron
19:05:49 <wilcal> Something like Vbox may need a whole new install
19:05:58 <auroud85_fr> Perhaps
19:06:16 <auroud85_fr> but M7 ISO won't start in UEFI mode inside Virtualbox
19:06:25 <wilcal> As in start from a completely blank drive
19:06:43 <wilcal> So that's an action item for me to try
19:06:59 <rindolf> well. i have a setback because vbox doesn't run on an mga8 host for me. i can try virtmanager/kvm on my f32 host (which seems to run over the network better)
19:07:12 <auroud85_fr> it starts well in BIOS mode, x86_64 and 32bits OK in BIOS. but in UEFI no.. stay at EFI shell
19:07:38 <wilcal> Ahhhhh I am now in UEFI mode
19:07:47 <wilcal> Again a good action item for me
19:08:30 <wilcal> I don't run any of my Vbox clients in UEFI mode
19:08:58 <wilcal> Chrome Browser still won't install
19:10:10 <auroud85_fr> wilcal: I only say that Virtualbox runs well on my M8 UEFI install. But VM starts BIOS mode VM. no UEFI.
19:11:05 <wilcal> It was an upstream kernel problem. Has that been resolved?
19:12:01 <auroud85_fr> Upstream Virtualbox is fixed. yes
19:12:33 <auroud85_fr> https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/19644 says fixed 6.1.14
19:12:37 <[mbot> [ #19644 (Linux kernel version: 5.8 - we need changes (fixed in 6.1.14)) – Oracle VM VirtualBox ]
19:13:10 <wilcal> So we've a way to go yet
19:13:43 <wilcal> Anything else that needs discussion in M8?
19:14:00 <auroud85_fr> Grub2
19:14:04 <wilcal> There was a HUGE update a couple days ago. It all went well here
19:14:14 <wilcal> That's kinda basic
19:14:16 <auroud85_fr> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27269
19:14:18 <[mbot> [ 27269 – systemd/grub2: "Failed to start Mark boot as successful" since latest grub2 updates 1 Sep '20 ]
19:15:44 <auroud85_fr> System boot fine but systemd user session process complains about a failing to mark boot as success.
19:16:45 <wilcal> Note the issue I flagged. Martin fixed it in the State 2 install
19:16:46 <auroud85_fr> Missing setuid file. But I don't think this must be done by a user session systemd manager. I think this must be PID1, not user's systemd manager.
19:16:47 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27013
19:16:49 <[mbot> [ 27013 – Why do I have to “rescue” the boot sometimes? ]
19:17:22 <wilcal> Some removeable media, USB drives, won't boot a 2nd time
19:17:29 <wilcal> now fixed
19:17:57 <zekemx> Hello everyone
19:17:59 <wilcal> hi zeke
19:18:01 <auroud85_fr> this is great.
19:18:04 <auroud85_fr> hi
19:18:31 <wilcal> We're talk'n Cauldron (M8)
19:19:31 <wilcal> There was a wrinkle in the Cauldron repo as I needed to re-install repos in all my test installs
19:19:44 <wilcal> Sometimes that happens
19:19:54 <auroud85_fr> I saw a discuss in dev-ml
19:20:24 <wilcal> I do this:
19:20:26 <wilcal> rm -rf /var/lib/rpm/__db.00* && rpm --rebuilddb      ( r recursive
19:20:37 <wilcal> then resetup the repo
19:20:49 <wilcal> after a reboot
19:21:39 <wilcal> anything else on M8?
19:21:46 <wilcal> ANother short meeting today
19:22:04 <wilcal> #topic Testing Updates & Backports
19:22:06 <auroud85_fr> Firefox 78 always speak english
19:22:27 <wilcal> FF is up over 80 now I think
19:22:37 <auroud85_fr> Lot of testing updates here. and security
19:22:49 <auroud85_fr> (Firefox 78 is ESR version)
19:23:25 <wilcal> Where is it in Cauldron?
19:23:57 <auroud85_fr> Cauldron we have 78 ESR and 81-devel
19:24:19 <wilcal> I think in M6 the ESR got so behind I had to install FF in my user space
19:24:40 <wilcal> Things like Lastpass stopped working
19:25:03 <auroud85_fr> Correct versions : firefox-78.2 ESR and firefox-beta-81
19:25:29 <auroud85_fr> beta-81 can speaks all languages and saved his add-ons activated
19:25:39 <wilcal> Note that Lastpass has an issue that effects some browsers FF mostly
19:25:50 <auroud85_fr> but firefox-78.2 ESR no => Alzheimer...
19:25:50 <wilcal> sometimes
19:26:31 <wilcal> Sometimes that ESR process bites you
19:27:04 <wilcal> Anything else on updates?
19:27:16 <auroud85_fr> yeah. Because this is the version we ship as default. I will see many bug reports if we ship this as is.
19:28:01 <wilcal> FF moves very fast lately
19:28:41 <wilcal> BIG HEADS UP!!!! Flash support ends 31 Dec 2020, 23:59
19:28:51 <zekemx> Did somethin on the root certificates changed lately?
19:28:57 <auroud85_fr> Yeah. I know
19:29:19 <auroud85_fr> Updates pending I think
19:29:35 <wikigazer> wow, flash took a looong time to get KO'ed.
19:29:36 <wilcal> There's a ton of malware waiting for 1 Jan 2021, 00:00:01
19:30:21 <auroud85_fr> We should not ship it in M8.
19:30:29 <auroud85_fr> Currently dropped from Cauldron
19:30:35 <wilcal> IMO there is going to be a lot of Government and Porn sites that have not updated. Interesting marrage
19:31:50 <wilcal> Lets move on
19:31:52 <wilcal> #topic Anything else?
19:32:04 <wilcal> Nothing from me
19:32:09 <auroud85_fr> Nothing.
19:32:18 <wilcal> Good tight group today
19:32:24 <wilcal> Thanks aall for being here.
19:32:31 <auroud85_fr> Yeah! Thanks!
19:32:31 <wilcal> I'll be here next week
19:32:44 <wilcal> Countdown time
19:32:47 <wilcal> Y-5
19:32:52 <wilcal> T-5
19:32:58 <wilcal> T-4
19:33:04 <wilcal> T-3
19:33:08 <wilcal> T-2
19:33:09 <wikigazer> drei
19:33:10 <wilcal> Bye all
19:33:16 <wilcal> T-1
19:33:20 <wilcal> #endmeeting