20:04:10 <wilcal> #startmeeting 20:04:10 <Inigo_Montoya`> Meeting started Thu Jan 16 20:04:10 2020 UTC. The chair is wilcal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:04:10 <Inigo_Montoya`> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 20:04:22 <wilcal> Hello all to another QA meeting 20:04:43 <wilcal> #topic Who's new? 20:04:50 <wilcal> ANyone new here today 20:05:33 <wilcal> Then lets move on to really the only issue 20:05:34 <wilcal> #topic Testing Updates 20:05:44 <wilcal> So the list is shorter 20:05:52 <wilcal> There's a kernel update in there 20:06:09 <wilcal> anything of note in there that need discussion 20:06:24 <wilcal> http://madb.mageia.org/tools/updates 20:06:27 <[mbot> [ Mageia App Db - Current Update candidates ] 20:06:51 <joselp> Also an update of lutris and wireshark 20:07:14 <joselp> Excuse me a moment, I have to go out 20:07:19 <wilcal> K 20:07:52 <wilcal> For the record a bug in the list that's grey'd out is in suspension for some reason 20:08:27 <bri_an> sometimes it can still be tested though correct. Sometimes it is jsut a question to be answered 20:09:18 <wilcal> Hi tar 20:09:33 <wilcal> We'er disccussing updates 20:09:34 <tarazed> evening Bill 20:09:53 <wilcal> anything on the list that you see needs disussing 20:10:01 <hviaene> The update on lutris is thru I guess, and a new wireshark? 20:10:39 <tarazed> One or two things have had to go back to the makers but most things look straight-forward, 20:11:11 <tarazed> Bill, that's your baby! 20:11:28 <wilcal> We've been pretty lucky on updates. It's been a long time since we've borked the install with an update 20:11:37 <wilcal> Hi MagT 20:11:57 <MageiaTJ> You HAD to say that, eh wilcal? 20:12:19 <MageiaTJ> About the updates, I mean. 20:12:24 <wilcal> FWIW I've always promoted, but not adopted, a policy of no updates on weekends Fri/Sat/Sun 20:12:36 <MageiaTJ> Sorry I'm late. Lost track of time. 20:12:51 <wilcal> No prob 20:13:19 <hviaene> Isn't there a fine on being late??? 20:13:46 <wilcal> Some years ago Ubuntu did an update late in the week that took every system down that was updated and didn't get it fixed until early the next week 20:14:32 <tarazed> We are not going to do that though are we? 20:15:03 <tarazed> cfossed fingers 20:15:08 <MageiaTJ> Well, Ubuntu pays folks. We don't. IMO, we're more likely to get a response on the weekend when people aren't at work. 20:15:22 <hviaene> No, we are much smarterloud 20:15:49 <wilcal> Anyway updates have been doing well 20:16:15 <joselp> It went very well, I'd say. 20:16:23 <tarazed> Yes, good work everybody 20:16:27 <wilcal> Caution on the flightgear bug. It's addicting 20:16:36 <MageiaTJ> TMB has our backs... 20:16:53 <wilcal> So anything on any of the updates? 20:16:56 <MageiaTJ> wilcal: I was just looking at that. 20:17:09 <hviaene> The tigervnc seems to put up some resistance 20:17:33 <MageiaTJ> I can't install it on the system I want to - not enough room in /. 20:17:58 <joselp> Firefox 68.4.1 still has warnings 20:18:38 <MageiaTJ> Warnings? 20:18:43 <tarazed> Wondering about rust after David's remark. Should it go through? 20:18:43 <wilcal> We are still biased towards if it passes 64-bit then it can be pushed unless there are special circumstances 20:18:57 <joselp> Advisories 20:20:05 <joselp> Sorry about my English, it's not very good 20:20:32 <wilcal> Your english is great 20:20:37 <tarazed> It is good enough joseph 20:20:47 <MageiaTJ> I understood. Advisories about what, exactly? 20:21:20 <joselp> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26047 20:21:22 <[mbot> [ 26047 – Thunderbird 68.4.1 ] 20:21:39 <tarazed> s/joseph/jose/ 20:21:52 <joselp> ? 20:22:55 <tarazed> substitution 20:24:58 <wilcal> From the time we see the advisory pubished on the qa mailing list to the time it starts purculating on the repo is about how long? 20:26:37 <MageiaTJ> The profile bug hit my brother's Thunderbird update, but symptoms were different. I fixed it by switching to a backup .thunderbird folder. 20:27:49 <tarazed> Really. I think I tried that and the profile had to be replaced again. 20:28:11 <wilcal> Anything else on updates? 20:28:24 <DavidWHodgins> Sorry I'm late 20:28:41 <wilcal> David hello 20:28:48 <wilcal> I'm gonna put you in charge 20:28:58 <wilcal> hold a sect we're talkig\ng updates 20:29:16 <wilcal> #chair DavidWHodgins 20:29:16 <Inigo_Montoya`> Current chairs: DavidWHodgins wilcal 20:29:16 <MageiaTJ> This time it would look like Tbird launched, but then nothing. Try again, and it says Tbird is running, but top doesn't see it. 20:29:45 <joselp> By the way, I tried to install Mageia Cauldron in Virtualbox today and it gave me an error when adding the repos. I don't know if it happened to anyone else 20:30:31 <MageiaTJ> Launch with the -p option, and there is but one profile. Use that, and it goes off into space again. 20:30:32 <DavidWHodgins> Just launched thunderbird here (in a konsole). Working ok here 20:30:37 <tarazed> joselp: yes, that is what happened when I tried to update and also for a net installation. 20:31:16 <MageiaTJ> Tbird working OK for my brother too, after I replaced .thunderbird with an old backup. 20:31:33 <joselp> Can there be a bug in the netinstall iso? 20:31:56 <DavidWHodgins> I was not hit by the profile bug, so no action required here. 20:32:05 <tarazed> Unlikely. and as said, updates were affected in the same way. 20:32:12 <MageiaTJ> joselp: that's not uncommon with Cauldron. The repos are a moving target at this stage. 20:32:19 <DavidWHodgins> joselp: This is after first updating from Mageia 6 to 7? 20:33:03 <DavidWHodgins> Ah. Cauldron has not reached version freeze yet. It should not be used except by packagers testing their own stuff. 20:33:16 <hviaene> Never seen the Tbird issue here either, I use it all the time 20:33:23 <MageiaTJ> Tbird working OK here too, or I would have raised the issue before it was validated. 20:33:25 <tarazed> That's what I figured. let it lay. 20:34:10 <tarazed> About cauldron that is 20:34:20 <joselp> I wanted to install it to test and see how the development of Mageia 8 goes. The installation in virtualbox. 20:35:09 <DavidWHodgins> Doesn't hurt to test it and ensure packagers are aware of any problems found, just don't expect it to be stable yet. 20:35:27 <DavidWHodgins> Use it at your own risk. :-) 20:35:33 <MageiaTJ> joseph: I don't even look at Cauldron until the developers send us some isos to test. That would be before the alpha (or maybe beta) version is sent to the public. 20:36:21 <tarazed> And I was curious about the latest ruby 20:36:52 <wilcal> M8 repo has been pretty active. I see lots of updates every day 20:37:06 <wilcal> there is a netinstall in there if you want to play with it 20:37:30 <tarazed> That is where the trouble starts 20:37:50 <joselp> Yes, but I can't install with netinstall because it gives me errors when adding the repos during the installation 20:37:59 <DavidWHodgins> With changes coming in core packages such as rpm setup, expect it to be unstable for now 20:38:36 <Benmc> check with mageia mirrors whish are active mirrors, then manually choose the best mirror 20:38:51 <DavidWHodgins> joselp: That's likely due to the repos being in the middle of being updated. Happens a lot with cauldron. 20:39:04 <DavidWHodgins> Check https://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/ 20:39:05 <[mbot> [ Build system status ] 20:39:36 <DavidWHodgins> Make sure it's been quiet for at least an hour before trying to add a mirror 20:39:44 <Benmc> you can use a mga7 net install iso as well 20:39:49 <wilcal> There were tons of changes in there just in the last couple days 20:40:26 <DavidWHodgins> 10 hours ago shows a change in drakx-installer-images 20:40:38 <DavidWHodgins> That would impact net installs 20:40:44 <joselp> I have a Mageia 7.1 installation in Virtualbox for testing with the testing repos activated to see what will happen 20:41:03 <DavidWHodgins> Anyway, back on topic. Any other questions or comments on updates? 20:41:11 <MageiaTJ> joselp: If the system can boot, try adding the repos later. And with Cauldron, do use a specific mirror, rather than MIRRORLIST. 20:41:29 <hviaene> Someone havve a go at tigervnc and mutt??? 20:41:50 <joselp> Okay, okay, like David says, let's get back to the subject 20:42:02 <wilcal> Anything else on updates? 20:42:13 <wilcal> Otherwise we move to anything else 20:42:23 <hviaene> My question 20:42:32 <DavidWHodgins> I'll give tigervnc a go. For testing it, I have it setup for use between my host and a vb guest 20:42:50 <DavidWHodgins> Weird way to use it, but it works. 20:43:18 <DavidWHodgins> Nothing else on updates here 20:43:19 <hviaene> I 'll keep an eye on your feedback. 20:43:30 <joselp> I don't use it, I haven't tried it 20:44:13 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Anything else? 20:44:31 <hviaene> Not from me 20:44:43 <tarazed> Nothing here 20:44:56 <DavidWHodgins> Looks like countdown time then. 20:45:04 <DavidWHodgins> t - 5 20:45:06 <DavidWHodgins> 4 20:45:06 <hviaene> G'night 20:45:08 <DavidWHodgins> 3 20:45:11 <DavidWHodgins> 2 20:45:13 <DavidWHodgins> 1 20:45:14 <tarazed> Bye all 20:45:19 <DavidWHodgins> Thanks for coming everyone 20:45:24 <DavidWHodgins> #endmeeting