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20:03:11 <wilcal> Welcome all to this weeks QA meeting
20:03:33 <wilcal> #topic Who's new?
20:03:43 <wilcal> Anyone new today?
20:04:20 <wilcal> Na
20:04:37 <wilcal> #M6 -> M7 upgrade issues. Final resolution
20:05:12 <wilcal> #M6->M7_upgrade_issues_Final_resolution
20:05:27 <wilcal> Can't figure it out
20:05:49 <wilcal> Anyway lots of movement on the M6 -> M7 upgrade
20:06:11 <wilcal> https://mensuel.framapad.org/p/mageia6eol
20:06:27 <wilcal> was a proposed post
20:06:50 <wilcal> Still a lot of chatter on the Developers mailing list
20:07:28 <wilcal> So this thing may be coming to a final resolution
20:08:25 <wilcal> Hopefully it'll get resolved befor M8 gets released
20:08:30 <wilcal> Hello tmb
20:08:38 <tmb> hi
20:09:02 <wilcal> We were discussing that the M6 -> M7 upgrade issue may be coming to a final resolution
20:10:43 <wilcal> ANyway maybe this will be resolved
20:11:07 <wilcal> I was hope David H would be here because he brought up an issue
20:11:20 <wilcal> #topic Plasma 5 Bug
20:11:34 <wilcal> And that my involve some changes to QT
20:11:45 <wilcal> That that may be a little scary
20:12:05 <wilcal> Anyone any thoughts on that?
20:13:59 <wilcal> qt was a major challenge in past releases
20:14:40 <tmb> the QT bit is a point release update this time, it should not be that painful. but I dont think we should bundle it with the other kde/plasma bits at the same time, thats just insane
20:15:04 <Bequimao> I always do full upgrades and did not see any problem. I did not understand, what the bug was.
20:15:43 <wilcal> My favorite app to use before an upgrade is killdisk.com
20:15:51 <wilcal> works every time
20:15:52 <tmb> meaning QA goes grom 5.12.2 to 5.12.6
20:15:56 <tmb> *QT*
20:16:02 <tmb> *from*
20:16:23 <wilcal> So that would be a Bug fix
20:16:44 <wilcal> It's not in the QA to be validated listing
20:16:58 <Bequimao> No objection. We'll see.
20:16:59 <wilcal> yet antway
20:16:59 <tmb> yep, mostly, but kde/plasma is somewhat flaky
20:17:45 <wilcal> We don't want to break an already nicely working desktop environment
20:18:22 <wilcal> I'm really not having any problems with Plasma on M7
20:18:27 <tmb> and if we open up mga6 -> mga7 update, I think we should delay QT / kdeapps / plasma a bit
20:18:52 <tmb> as current code is somewhat stable
20:19:14 <wilcal> lets not make it unstable
20:19:35 <wilcal> Don't fix something if it's not broke
20:19:54 <wilcal> You have any idea what the bug is all about
20:20:56 <wilcal> ANyway the discussion here is to alert folks that this is kinda percolating
20:21:21 <tmb> well, some bits of kde/plasma like kwin needs to rebuilt even for a simple QT point update
20:21:25 <wilcal> Hello ezequiel
20:21:58 <ezequiel> Hello everone
20:22:05 <ezequiel> everyone sorry
20:22:27 <wilcal> I don't think we can do anything here until the Mageia bug is filed
20:22:32 <Benmc> we all have fat fingers
20:23:24 <wilcal> Any other thoughts on these two issues?
20:24:13 <wilcal> Lets move on
20:24:15 <wilcal> #topic Testing Updates & Backports
20:24:16 <tmb> QT is on the way here: https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25651, but is still misses some bits before it lands on qA
20:24:36 <wilcal> thks tmb
20:24:50 <wilcal> Update list is short
20:25:12 <wilcal> very big update a couple days ago. It's all went through here without a problem
20:26:19 <wilcal> The Kodi thing in there is hardware specific
20:26:38 <wilcal> Lots of "OK"s
20:26:53 <Bequimao> I work on https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25682
20:27:07 <wilcal> Thks Ben
20:27:10 <wilcal> Lets move on
20:27:12 <wilcal> #topic Anything else?
20:27:16 <ezequiel> I open a bug report...
20:27:19 <wilcal> Anything else
20:27:22 <wilcal> thanks
20:27:31 <ezequiel> I cannot open bugs.mageia.org. I get Could not connect to the LDAP server(s) ldap.mageia.org.
20:27:45 <wilcal> Next week is Turkey Day here in the States
20:28:12 <tmb> yeah, ldap server reboot failed, so I'm working on it
20:28:27 <wilcal> I will be at a Sports Book here in Sin City USA watching the 3 football games
20:28:46 <wilcal> Hopefully come out ahead a little
20:29:21 <wilcal> So I'll be back on 5 Dec
20:29:33 <wilcal> Anything else
20:29:39 <ezequiel> is bugs.mageia.org down?.. I get: Could not connect to the LDAP server(s) ldap.mageia.org.
20:30:23 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/ is responding here
20:30:41 <tmb> ezequiel, bugs is up, but ldap is down
20:30:52 <ezequiel> I wanted to ask about a report I open more than 2 months ago. .I didn't ask before because I had to leave town since my Father got sick.
20:32:05 <ezequiel> On an Acer laptop.. I installed mageia 7.1 and the initial screen is grayed out... it is also hard to move up or down.. .. that is in legacy move. the only solution was UEFI.
20:32:14 <ezequiel> probably something with resolutions.
20:32:27 <wilcal> Nvidia?
20:32:32 <ezequiel> intel
20:32:52 <wilcal> I'm becoming very anti-nvidia
20:33:05 <ezequiel> lol
20:33:14 <wilcal> I just don't see its usefulness for me anymore
20:33:21 <wilcal> Intel is way fast enough
20:33:41 <wilcal> I'm not really a gamer
20:34:00 <Bequimao> I have to go, bye!
20:34:06 <wilcal> Anything else?
20:34:13 <ezequiel> thatś all
20:34:18 <ezequiel> thank you!
20:34:29 <wilcal> OK count down time
20:34:37 <wilcal> thanks all for being here
20:34:44 <wilcal> See you in a couple weeks
20:34:49 <wilcal> T-5
20:34:56 <ezequiel> happy thanks Giving!
20:35:00 <wilcal> T-4
20:35:03 <wilcal> :-))
20:35:09 <wilcal> Turkey day
20:35:30 <wilcal> I can remember as a kid going to a live turkey shoot ( shotguns
20:35:40 <wilcal> T-3
20:35:44 <ezequiel> OMG
20:35:47 <wilcal> T-2
20:35:49 <ezequiel> lol
20:35:57 <wilcal> Yup, Americans really used to do that
20:36:08 <wilcal> T-1
20:36:12 <wilcal> Not anymore
20:36:15 <wilcal> bye all
20:36:20 <wilcal> #endmeeting