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20:02:50 <wilcal> welcome all to this weeks QA meeting
20:03:06 <wilcal> #topic Who's new?
20:03:15 <wilcal> Anyone new today
20:03:46 <wilcal> Silence
20:03:49 <wilcal> #topic M6 -> M7 upgrade issues
20:04:00 <wilcal> So this is becoming more and more in our past
20:04:08 <wilcal> Likelyto not make everyone happy
20:04:29 <tarazed> My tests were limited and seemed to go OK
20:04:33 <bri_an> No - have you tested much on the changes?
20:04:43 <bri_an> sounds like some
20:05:15 <bri_an> should I try mgaapplet upgrade again?
20:05:19 <tarazed> I'll do another netinstall upgrade this week
20:05:58 <MageiaTJ> Many of the issues are supposed to be solved, but I believe some remain. I've held off on testing until I get better word that it may be ready.
20:06:00 <wilcal> https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_7_Errata#Upgrade_issues
20:06:01 <wilcal> https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_7_Release_Notes#Upgrading_from_Mageia_6
20:06:03 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25476
20:06:05 <wilcal> * Testing updates - Any questions or problems
20:06:06 <[mbot> [ 25476 – Upgrading from Mageia 6: adding media before selecting packages fails, conflict about /usr/lib64/rpm-plugins/syslog.so ]
20:06:40 <wilcal> So those are the official places
20:06:48 <bri_an> ok
20:07:14 <wilcal> The really good news is that M7 is maybe the most stable release we've ever had
20:08:29 <wilcal> QA is really on the record of there is no clean upgrade path from M6 -> M7 that works for everyone
20:09:58 <MageiaTJ> M7 does have a few issues. bug 24189 continues to affect some users.
20:10:01 <[mbot> Bug: ['cups.service fails on boot - multiple attempts - have to manually start', 'NEW', 'Thierry Vignaud'] https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24189
20:12:00 <wilcal> I've never had a problem with CUPS here
20:12:15 <MageiaTJ> If it hits you, it's REALLY annoying.
20:12:47 <wilcal> Looks like the bug has been around since the beginning of the year
20:13:36 <MageiaTJ> Seems to affect certain cpus under certain conditions, and can be a moving target.
20:14:06 <MageiaTJ> It hit me, until I did a major hardware upgrade. Then it just went away.
20:14:24 <wilcal> DOes it only effect older hardware
20:15:46 <MageiaTJ> I'm not sure. I think cpu speed may be a factor.
20:17:24 <MageiaTJ> Perhaps in combination with whether your boot drive is ssd or rust.
20:17:25 <wilcal> nfs-utils is susceptable to cpu speed and sometimes you have to manually mount NFS
20:18:16 <wilcal> Lets move on
20:18:17 <wilcal> #topic Testing Updates
20:18:29 <wilcal> so the list is short.
20:18:51 <wilcal> no kernel or Vbox updates :-))
20:18:53 <tarazed> That's down to Herman.
20:18:53 <tarazed> >
20:18:59 <MageiaTJ> I validated a bunch earlier today. That pared this list down considerably.
20:19:04 <wilcal> Do'n a great job
20:19:27 <MageiaTJ> Yes. I noticed Herman's name on most of them.
20:19:29 <tarazed> I ahve been taking a back seat lately.  Not likely to change.
20:20:03 <wilcal> I've not heard anything on the M8 schedule so we should have a quiet until the end of the year anyway
20:20:03 <tarazed> Some of the feedback issues should be easy to resolve./
20:20:26 <MageiaTJ> I gave Firefox a second test before the meeting and validated. I'll try Thunderbird afterward.
20:20:32 <wilcal> We'll I've been way less then 100% due to learning how to see again
20:20:51 <tarazed> Doing OK?
20:20:54 <wilcal> I've got no less then a half dozen of reading glasses
20:21:05 <wilcal> Had my cataracks replaced
20:21:38 <wilcal> Still work'n through that
20:22:06 <wilcal> Anyway
20:22:08 <wilcal> #topic Anything else?
20:22:27 <wilcal> I worked a problem with an obscure Webcam
20:23:02 <wilcal> FOr the record here. Linux support for webcams ( Logitech ) and printers ( HP ) are based on two specific suppliers
20:23:28 <wilcal> If you have something that does not work visit your local walmart and buy a logitech webcam or hp printer
20:24:10 <wilcal> Does anyone remember around 10-years ago that there were more the 200 different wbcam constructions?
20:24:38 <wilcal> Each one with its own spcific "driver' install CD
20:24:45 <wilcal> Same for printers
20:25:10 <MageiaTJ> I've always stayed away from them. Saw too many TV shows where they were remotely activated.
20:25:43 <tarazed> Yeah, I blank mine.
20:25:51 <wilcal> If you have a webcam, and are not using it, disconnect it
20:25:58 <wilcal> Same for printers
20:26:41 <wilcal> Put a small piece of black electrical tape over your laptops webcam
20:27:19 <tarazed> That way you can still try QA tests for ekiga and the like.
20:27:25 <wilcal> Anything else
20:28:09 <wilcal> I'll likely be here next week.
20:28:22 <tarazed> Oh, yes.  bug 25132.  That should be removed altogether.
20:28:24 <[mbot> Bug: ['Update request: kernel-linus-5.1.18-1.mga7', 'NEW', 'QA Team'] https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25132
20:28:34 <wilcal> Three weeks from today is the American Thanksgiving
20:29:18 <wilcal> WHen I was living in The Netherlands I actually bought canned turkey at the American Grocery store in Amsterdam
20:30:34 <wilcal> Anything else?
20:30:52 <wilcal> So short meeting today
20:30:56 <wilcal> Countdown time
20:31:02 <wilcal> thanks all for being here
20:31:13 <wilcal> See ya'll next week same time same station
20:31:20 <wilcal> T-5
20:31:27 <tarazed> So long pardners.
20:31:31 <wilcal> T-4
20:31:40 <wilcal> T-3
20:31:51 <wilcal> T-2
20:32:01 <wilcal> T-1
20:32:05 <wilcal> #endmeeting