19:04:08 <wilcal> #startmeeting 19:04:08 <Inigo_Montoya> Meeting started Thu Aug 9 19:04:08 2018 UTC. The chair is wilcal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:04:08 <Inigo_Montoya> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 19:04:15 <wilcal> welcome all to another 19:04:39 <wilcal> we were offline last week because of the changes 19:05:07 <bri_an> TJ: 19:05:07 <benmc> new boy on the block 19:05:09 <wilcal> #topic Who's new? 19:05:17 <wilcal> hello tj 19:05:36 <tarazed> Hi wilcal, TJ 19:05:37 <wilcal> The group is forming 19:05:50 <MageiaTJ> Hello. New nick didn't fool anybody, eh? 19:06:03 <wilcal> Nobody new 19:06:46 <wilcal> #topic M6.1 iso images testing. How's it going 19:06:56 <wilcal> So the new images are out at least the live media 19:07:09 <bri_an> New since 2018-8-4? 19:07:13 <wilcal> up till today for me they were running fine 19:07:40 <benmc> only issue I have is UEFI plasma, fromUSB or optical 19:07:40 <bri_an> yes - only challenge is on one old AMD/Nvidia machine, but Martin is figuring it out 19:07:53 <MageiaTJ> OK for me, but I've only done two tests. 19:08:08 <wilcal> Make sure you note your findings in: 19:08:10 <wilcal> https://pad.riseup.net/p/mageia6.1 19:08:11 <[mbot> [ Riseup Pad ] 19:08:27 <tarazed> Initial impressions are good but there seem to be niggling problems for others 19:08:36 <wilcal> so today I found a nasty bug :-( 19:08:43 <benmc> also a bug in the installer bug 223406 19:08:45 <[mbot> Bug: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=223406 19:08:56 <bri_an> yup - noapic versus apci=off challenge 19:09:02 <MageiaTJ> Aren't there always niggling problems? 19:09:09 <benmc> bug 23406 19:09:11 <[mbot> Bug: ['if install is cancelled after bootloader installed but before root password and user info entered, will boot to a system with "live" as user with no password and no root password', 'NEW', 'Mageia Bug Squad'] https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23406 19:09:29 <wilcal> eek 19:09:37 <wilcal> so here's another: 19:09:39 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23414 19:09:41 <[mbot> [ 23414 – M6.1 Plasma LiveDVD appears to not be able to install nvidia driver correctly ] 19:09:43 <benmc> just up tmbs alley? 19:10:11 <wilcal> I went through the install twice this morning and no go. Install the nvidia driver and bork your install 19:10:22 <bri_an> I've done Xfce and Gnome 19:10:39 <wilcal> All my Vbox installs went just fine 19:10:42 <MageiaTJ> 32-bit Xfce had no problem with the nvidia340 driver. 19:10:54 <wilcal> My non=nvidia on real hardware went just fine 19:11:02 <tarazed> I had nvidia running in Plasma on three machines but on newest onw text started to scramble 19:11:14 <bri_an> Live issues on mine, but the install itself with Nvidia 304 worked fine 19:11:21 <wilcal> My nvidia install went fine then i realized the install didn't install the nvidia driver 19:11:35 <wilcal> when I forced the issue the install was borked 19:11:45 <bri_an> ouch 19:11:56 <wilcal> So there's still some wrinkles 19:12:16 <wilcal> wouldn't be fun if there were not wrinkles 19:12:37 <benmc> I cannot install UEFI plasma, install fails at setting admin and user passwords. so above bug 19:12:50 <benmc> CSM install from same media has no issues 19:12:54 <MageiaTJ> On a related note, has anyone stepped forward to build the classicals? 19:13:18 <wilcal> Ooooooo that's a problem. I haven't heard yet on the status of that 19:13:20 <tarazed> Not heard anything. 19:13:42 <wilcal> Can't have Martin doing everything 19:13:54 <tmb> I guess I will have to build them so we can move on.... 19:14:01 <wilcal> If it continues to be an issue he'll do it but that's asking too much I think 19:14:02 <MageiaTJ> be back in a few minutes 19:14:07 <wilcal> K 19:14:35 <wilcal> thks tmb 19:14:42 <wilcal> gotta teach someone to do that 19:14:48 <benmc> I see ennael is is "in the room" today. 19:14:55 <bri_an> benmc: UEFI - I may one piece of hardware to test that on, that I can actually mess with. Anyone else try it? 19:15:26 <wilcal> I actually have stayed away from UEFI installs. I'm gonna attack in during the M7 testing 19:15:51 <benmc> bri_an: Gnome and xfce UEFI seem to be ok 19:15:52 <wilcal> mostly because I'm starting to get big drivers 19:15:53 <bri_an> I booted USB UEFI and it worked 19:15:55 <wilcal> drives 19:16:06 <bri_an> ah - I was doing GNOME 19:16:31 <bri_an> Usually the team invests heavily in KDE/Plasma, so I try to find the outliers ;-) 19:16:37 <wilcal> Did you set the bios on your computer to be only uefi? 19:17:04 <bri_an> the one machine defaults to that (gen 7 intel lappy) 19:17:30 <benmc> mins set to default to UEFI, but i can choose csm at boot 19:17:45 <wilcal> I've set all my bios' to only be non uefi 19:17:51 <benmc> anyways folks, that time of the morning. got to go 19:18:06 <bri_an> benmc: bye 19:18:07 <wilcal> So I have to partition a 3+GB drive 19:18:14 <tarazed> See you ben 19:18:21 <wilcal> bye ben 19:18:24 <MageiaTJ> back 19:18:56 <tarazed> wilcal: just got a 4TB, using it for /data only 19:19:53 <wilcal> Ya, I've got a LOT of videos here and I need to transition to a 4Ger 19:20:23 <wilcal> Anyway keep tinkering with those new ISO's and we await the CI's from TMB 19:20:29 <MageiaTJ> Everything I have that's uefi-capable is set to not use it. 19:20:39 <wilcal> it looks like there'll be a 2nd round 19:20:44 <wilcal> same for me TJ 19:20:58 <tarazed> UEFI all the way here 19:21:14 <wilcal> Then I bought a 3GB drive and that had to be partitioned into 1GB & 2GB 19:21:24 <MageiaTJ> Another customer. Gotta go... 19:21:30 <wilcal> Later TJ 19:21:43 <tarazed> wilcal - do you mean 3TB? 19:21:59 <wilcal> yes sorry 19:22:32 <wilcal> Your supposed to be able to go to 3.2TB but for some reason Mageia didn't like it 19:22:53 <wilcal> gparted worked and made it 1TB & 2TB and everyone was happy 19:23:20 <wilcal> lets move on 19:23:21 <wilcal> #topic Testing Updates 19:23:23 <hviaene> The small problem I reported on the Mageia Welcome screen annoys me more than it should, because the same occurred during the testing of M6. 19:23:32 <wilcal> lets see where we're at 19:24:36 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23331 19:24:39 <tarazed> Several stuck on feedback 19:25:02 <wilcal> Flightgear is non operative in 32-bit so I'm gonna let Jose work on that 19:25:13 <bri_an> gotta drop - by all 19:25:15 <wilcal> FG is really non-workable in 32-bit 19:26:01 <wilcal> squerrelmail is a career builder 19:26:24 <wilcal> decent list some of them are kinda stuck 19:26:59 <wilcal> I should be able to work 32-bit mariadb in a Vbox client and push that on 19:27:31 <wilcal> anyone understand openslp? 19:27:34 <hviaene> I get that one tomorrow in the afternoon 19:27:40 <hviaene> mariadb 19:27:44 <wilcal> k 19:28:07 <wilcal> List is managable 19:28:13 <tarazed> I'll send 23382 on its way unless Herman wants to try 32-bit. 19:28:21 <wilcal> thks 19:28:34 <hviaene> openslp: no, I don't get the point of it, if it only works locally 19:29:12 <wilcal> If anything works beyond a clean install I'd push it on 19:29:57 <hviaene> tarazed: as you wish, I try after mariadb 19:29:58 <tarazed> We can get rid of glpi and libsoup I reckon. 19:30:04 <wilcal> K 19:30:22 <tarazed> herman: no, only as you wish 19:30:52 <wilcal> anything else on testing updates? 19:30:58 <tmb> yes 19:31:00 <hviaene> I wish, I wish I had ........ much more time in a day 19:31:43 <wilcal> tmb? 19:31:44 <tmb> I've just built full set of kernels for mga6 closing down a high prio remote dos exploit: 19:31:45 <tmb> https://www.securityweek.com/segmentsmack-flaw-linux-kernel-allows-remote-dos-attacks 19:31:46 <[mbot> [ 'SegmentSmack' Flaw in Linux Kernel Allows Remote DoS Attacks | SecurityWeek.Com ] 19:31:49 <MageiaTJ> Sigh. Just can't do it - too busy. Maybe next week? 19:32:43 <tmb> so I will open up bugrepots and send a notification on qa-discuss 19:32:57 <wilcal> ohhhh nice one TMB Gloom and Doom 19:33:36 <wilcal> wow 19:34:05 <wilcal> whew! lets move on 19:34:16 <wilcal> #topic Anything else? 19:34:30 <wilcal> I wanted to make a point publically here 19:34:42 <rindolf> well, I'm seeking to buy a new laptop 19:34:47 <wilcal> David suggested we have another election 19:34:56 <tarazed> Yes. Leadership, although without TJ there may not be much point in talking about it. 19:35:00 <wilcal> I say no. Leave things the way they are 19:35:42 <wilcal> David is struggling with health issues but no reason to change things I think for now 19:35:44 <rindolf> see https://github.com/shlomif/shlomif-public-notes/blob/master/notes/new-laptop-recommendations--2018.md 19:35:45 <tarazed> If it works, don't fix it. 19:35:45 <[mbot> [ shlomif-public-notes/new-laptop-recommendations--2018.md at master · shlomif/shlomif-public-notes · GitHub ] 19:36:02 <rindolf> i'd like to run mageia 6.x on it 19:36:12 <wilcal> Do I have concurance on that? 19:36:48 <hviaene> As far as I am concerned, yes 19:36:52 <wilcal> I need to get the Council to conven and vote to put M5 to bed 19:36:55 <tarazed> Agreed. 19:37:02 <hviaene> Yeepie 19:37:05 <rindolf> yes 19:37:07 <wilcal> I do not want to be in charge 19:37:18 <wilcal> anything else 19:37:30 <hviaene> Not from me 19:37:38 <wilcal> I'm tapped out 19:37:51 <tarazed> rindolf: I would not anticipate any problems. Just disable secure boot. 19:38:06 <wilcal> the weather here is cooling off. Maybe no more 40C+ days for now 19:38:19 <tarazed> Much cooler here now. 19:38:25 <wilcal> hottest on my porch was 120F 19:38:43 <wilcal> I do not need a clothes dryer 19:38:49 <tarazed> Phew! 19:38:49 <wilcal> anything else 19:38:56 <tarazed> Nope 19:39:03 <wilcal> 8% humidity 19:39:29 <wilcal> countdown time 19:39:32 <wilcal> T-5 19:39:37 <wilcal> thanks all for being here 19:39:43 <wilcal> T-4 19:39:44 <tarazed> OK. Bye for now. 19:39:50 <wilcal> T-3 19:39:55 <wilcal> T-2 19:40:01 <wilcal> bye all 19:40:07 <wilcal> T-1 19:40:11 <wilcal> #endmeeting