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19:05:31 <tjandrews> Our dew point is something like 74F today. Tropical. Better than earlier this week.
19:05:34 <wilcal> Welcome to another
19:05:43 <wilcal> Should be short again
19:06:01 <wilcal> #topic Who's new?
19:06:09 <wilcal> Anyone new here today
19:06:21 <wilcal> #chair tjandrews
19:06:21 <Inigo_Montoya> Current chairs: tjandrews wilcal
19:06:45 <wilcal> I don't see anyone new
19:07:33 <wilcal> hi bri
19:07:36 <wilcal> #topic M5 -> M6 upgrate "mgaapplet --testing" on real hardware
19:07:41 <bri_an> hi everyone
19:07:43 <benmc> mga5 to 6 586 and x86_64 upgrades real hardware ok. + 3000 packages and +2.1 GB. reboot to working desktops
19:08:01 <wilcal> So what I'd like to do with this is get a consensis on the testing process
19:08:14 <wilcal> David wants it tested on real hardware
19:08:30 <bri_an> are the mirror issues resolved
19:08:31 <bri_an> ?
19:08:38 <tarazed_> I have a couple of laptops with mga5 partitions - shall give it a go
19:08:42 <wilcal> supposedly
19:08:51 <bri_an> I have one instance to still upgrade and don't really want ot kill it
19:09:05 <wilcal> how do you set up mgaapplet
19:09:06 <bri_an> I guess I can back it up and restore if needed
19:09:36 <bri_an> I thought it was as simple as $ mgaapplet --test
19:09:54 <tarazed_> Dave's deadline is Tuesday - is there a council meeting near or what?
19:09:55 <benmc> bri_an: im at the end of the earth, and my localest is synced, so everybodys should be good
19:10:26 <bri_an> ok - will try it, but for whatever reason, in U.S. the mirror picked always gapped
19:10:27 <benmc> Bri_an: thats it
19:10:40 <wilcal> We had a council meeting last Tue so he's assuming we have another this  coming Tues
19:10:52 <benmc> oops "mgaapplet --testing"
19:11:05 <hviaene> I've done a test weeks ago on real HW: it worked perfectly for me, so what else can I do?
19:11:24 <bri_an> ah - I got it wrong again  :-(
19:11:38 <bri_an> hviaene:  drink
19:11:43 <tarazed_> herman: not much really if you have no other hardware
19:12:00 <hviaene> No, I haven't
19:12:13 <wilcal> What I've done here is bring up M5 on real hardware of Vbox enable the M6 repo and run "urpmi --auto-update --auto" in an su terminal
19:12:16 <bri_an> oh sorry - that was suggestion
19:12:21 <tarazed_> herman: so a drink is a good idea.
19:12:22 <bri_an> no offense intended
19:12:42 <hviaene> A good trappist
19:13:09 <benmc> sit back and put your feet up (also no offense intended)
19:14:02 <tarazed_> Yes you have been working very hard lately, and then a 100 km cycle ride...
19:14:08 <wilcal> It's been awhile since I've done a netinstall of M5 but I'll give that a go and see if it upgrades
19:15:37 <benmc> I will just copy my backups around my various laptops and see how they go, time allowing
19:16:10 <tjandrews> Any remaining M5 install is probably heavily customized by the user. That's too bad in a way - no way to test all possibilities.
19:16:14 <tarazed_> Dave should be satisfied with that
19:16:34 <wilcal> I did voice my position at the Council meeting that upgrading M5 KDE -> M6 Plasma is "not recommended is in the notes
19:16:56 <benmc> sorry, got to go. try to be back later
19:17:10 <tarazed_> Bye Ben
19:17:13 <wilcal> so that's the major issue we need to go after in the next couple days
19:17:52 <wilcal> Probably best to report your efforts on the QA ML
19:19:32 <wilcal> So lets move on to:
19:19:34 <wilcal> #topic Testing Updates
19:19:50 <wilcal> lots of ok's on the listing
19:20:08 <wilcal> A Vbox update
19:20:35 <tarazed_> For everybody
19:20:42 <wilcal> So I think concentrating on the M5 -> M6 update is probably where your efforts should be
19:20:57 <tarazed_> python-paramiko has been stuck for weeks
19:21:13 <wilcal> That's above my pay grade
19:21:20 <tarazed_> And mine
19:21:44 <tarazed_> Agreed we should concentrate on mgaapplet
19:21:49 <tjandrews> And mine.
19:21:51 <wilcal> Thunderbird is easy
19:22:13 <tarazed_> I did 5 and 6 but it really needs others as well
19:22:13 <wilcal> Lets move on and make this short
19:22:17 <wilcal> #topic Anything else?
19:22:41 <wilcal> Lots of discussion at the Council meeting on M7 planning
19:22:41 <hviaene> Not here
19:23:17 <wilcal> I think general consensus is release sometime next year, maybe April
19:23:23 <hviaene> Wasn't 6.1 not coming before 7?
19:23:37 <tarazed_> That should be imminent
19:23:46 <tjandrews> hviaene: Yes.
19:24:06 <wilcal> Yes, but I think once this m5 -> m6 update goes though we'll see ISO quickly
19:24:17 <hviaene> OK
19:24:40 <tjandrews> I told them I wasn't even going to look at Cauldron before 6.1 goes out, and all agreed.
19:24:54 <wilcal> At least 6 months between M6.1 release and M7 release
19:25:08 <hviaene> Excellent
19:25:17 <wilcal> So that puts it into next year
19:25:30 <wilcal> lots off pushback on doing M7 this year
19:25:44 <wilcal> Anything else
19:25:51 <tarazed_> Nope
19:25:56 <wilcal> Not from me
19:26:22 <wilcal> Time for count down
19:26:26 <wilcal> T-5
19:26:37 <tarazed_> Thanks wilcal and tj
19:26:39 <wilcal> thanks all for coming. Short one issue meeting
19:26:44 <wilcal> T-4
19:26:44 <hviaene> G' night all
19:26:50 <bri_an> goodnight
19:26:52 <wilcal> T-3
19:26:53 <tarazed_> Goodbye
19:26:56 <wilcal> T-2
19:27:03 <wilcal> T-1
19:27:17 <wilcal> #endmeeting