19:05:25 <wilcal> #startmeeting 19:05:25 <Inigo_Montoya> Meeting started Thu Jul 5 19:05:25 2018 UTC. The chair is wilcal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:05:25 <Inigo_Montoya> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 19:05:31 <tjandrews> Our dew point is something like 74F today. Tropical. Better than earlier this week. 19:05:34 <wilcal> Welcome to another 19:05:43 <wilcal> Should be short again 19:06:01 <wilcal> #topic Who's new? 19:06:09 <wilcal> Anyone new here today 19:06:21 <wilcal> #chair tjandrews 19:06:21 <Inigo_Montoya> Current chairs: tjandrews wilcal 19:06:45 <wilcal> I don't see anyone new 19:07:33 <wilcal> hi bri 19:07:36 <wilcal> #topic M5 -> M6 upgrate "mgaapplet --testing" on real hardware 19:07:41 <bri_an> hi everyone 19:07:43 <benmc> mga5 to 6 586 and x86_64 upgrades real hardware ok. + 3000 packages and +2.1 GB. reboot to working desktops 19:08:01 <wilcal> So what I'd like to do with this is get a consensis on the testing process 19:08:14 <wilcal> David wants it tested on real hardware 19:08:30 <bri_an> are the mirror issues resolved 19:08:31 <bri_an> ? 19:08:38 <tarazed_> I have a couple of laptops with mga5 partitions - shall give it a go 19:08:42 <wilcal> supposedly 19:08:51 <bri_an> I have one instance to still upgrade and don't really want ot kill it 19:09:05 <wilcal> how do you set up mgaapplet 19:09:06 <bri_an> I guess I can back it up and restore if needed 19:09:36 <bri_an> I thought it was as simple as $ mgaapplet --test 19:09:54 <tarazed_> Dave's deadline is Tuesday - is there a council meeting near or what? 19:09:55 <benmc> bri_an: im at the end of the earth, and my localest is synced, so everybodys should be good 19:10:26 <bri_an> ok - will try it, but for whatever reason, in U.S. the mirror picked always gapped 19:10:27 <benmc> Bri_an: thats it 19:10:40 <wilcal> We had a council meeting last Tue so he's assuming we have another this coming Tues 19:10:52 <benmc> oops "mgaapplet --testing" 19:11:05 <hviaene> I've done a test weeks ago on real HW: it worked perfectly for me, so what else can I do? 19:11:24 <bri_an> ah - I got it wrong again :-( 19:11:38 <bri_an> hviaene: drink 19:11:43 <tarazed_> herman: not much really if you have no other hardware 19:12:00 <hviaene> No, I haven't 19:12:13 <wilcal> What I've done here is bring up M5 on real hardware of Vbox enable the M6 repo and run "urpmi --auto-update --auto" in an su terminal 19:12:16 <bri_an> oh sorry - that was suggestion 19:12:21 <tarazed_> herman: so a drink is a good idea. 19:12:22 <bri_an> no offense intended 19:12:42 <hviaene> A good trappist 19:13:09 <benmc> sit back and put your feet up (also no offense intended) 19:14:02 <tarazed_> Yes you have been working very hard lately, and then a 100 km cycle ride... 19:14:08 <wilcal> It's been awhile since I've done a netinstall of M5 but I'll give that a go and see if it upgrades 19:15:37 <benmc> I will just copy my backups around my various laptops and see how they go, time allowing 19:16:10 <tjandrews> Any remaining M5 install is probably heavily customized by the user. That's too bad in a way - no way to test all possibilities. 19:16:14 <tarazed_> Dave should be satisfied with that 19:16:34 <wilcal> I did voice my position at the Council meeting that upgrading M5 KDE -> M6 Plasma is "not recommended is in the notes 19:16:56 <benmc> sorry, got to go. try to be back later 19:17:10 <tarazed_> Bye Ben 19:17:13 <wilcal> so that's the major issue we need to go after in the next couple days 19:17:52 <wilcal> Probably best to report your efforts on the QA ML 19:19:32 <wilcal> So lets move on to: 19:19:34 <wilcal> #topic Testing Updates 19:19:50 <wilcal> lots of ok's on the listing 19:20:08 <wilcal> A Vbox update 19:20:35 <tarazed_> For everybody 19:20:42 <wilcal> So I think concentrating on the M5 -> M6 update is probably where your efforts should be 19:20:57 <tarazed_> python-paramiko has been stuck for weeks 19:21:13 <wilcal> That's above my pay grade 19:21:20 <tarazed_> And mine 19:21:44 <tarazed_> Agreed we should concentrate on mgaapplet 19:21:49 <tjandrews> And mine. 19:21:51 <wilcal> Thunderbird is easy 19:22:13 <tarazed_> I did 5 and 6 but it really needs others as well 19:22:13 <wilcal> Lets move on and make this short 19:22:17 <wilcal> #topic Anything else? 19:22:41 <wilcal> Lots of discussion at the Council meeting on M7 planning 19:22:41 <hviaene> Not here 19:23:17 <wilcal> I think general consensus is release sometime next year, maybe April 19:23:23 <hviaene> Wasn't 6.1 not coming before 7? 19:23:37 <tarazed_> That should be imminent 19:23:46 <tjandrews> hviaene: Yes. 19:24:06 <wilcal> Yes, but I think once this m5 -> m6 update goes though we'll see ISO quickly 19:24:17 <hviaene> OK 19:24:40 <tjandrews> I told them I wasn't even going to look at Cauldron before 6.1 goes out, and all agreed. 19:24:54 <wilcal> At least 6 months between M6.1 release and M7 release 19:25:08 <hviaene> Excellent 19:25:17 <wilcal> So that puts it into next year 19:25:30 <wilcal> lots off pushback on doing M7 this year 19:25:44 <wilcal> Anything else 19:25:51 <tarazed_> Nope 19:25:56 <wilcal> Not from me 19:26:22 <wilcal> Time for count down 19:26:26 <wilcal> T-5 19:26:37 <tarazed_> Thanks wilcal and tj 19:26:39 <wilcal> thanks all for coming. Short one issue meeting 19:26:44 <wilcal> T-4 19:26:44 <hviaene> G' night all 19:26:50 <bri_an> goodnight 19:26:52 <wilcal> T-3 19:26:53 <tarazed_> Goodbye 19:26:56 <wilcal> T-2 19:27:03 <wilcal> T-1 19:27:17 <wilcal> #endmeeting