19:01:34 <DavidWHodgins> #startmeeting 19:01:34 <Inigo_Montoya> Meeting started Thu Jun 14 19:01:34 2018 UTC. The chair is DavidWHodgins. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:01:34 <Inigo_Montoya> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 19:01:42 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Who's new? - If you are then come and say hello 19:02:03 <DavidWHodgins> Anyone here who hasn't been to a qa team irc meeting before? 19:02:36 <DavidWHodgins> #topic mgaapplet --testing upgrades 19:03:00 <DavidWHodgins> Hopefully we have fixes now for the urpm part of bug 23037 19:03:06 <[mbot> Bug: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23037 19:03:15 <DavidWHodgins> Argh. mbot is down 19:03:44 <DavidWHodgins> Still waiting for some additional plasma updates before it's ready to start testing. 19:03:48 <wilcal> Any kind of a time frame as to when I can successfully execute a netinstall of M6? 19:03:52 <tjandrews> Hello, everyone. 19:04:04 <DavidWHodgins> tjandrews: HiYa 19:04:07 <wilcal> Hi tj 19:04:11 <MrsB> Morning QA 19:04:18 <tarazed_> Evening/afternoon TJ 19:04:27 <DavidWHodgins> wilcal: I don't remember off hand what the current status is. 19:04:44 <wilcal> It's kinda holding everything up 19:04:46 <DavidWHodgins> MrsB: Hiya. Thanks for all the help with the advisories 19:04:59 <MrsB> NP. football on telly. 19:05:00 <tjandrews> Afternoon. 3:04pm, to be exact. 19:05:45 <DavidWHodgins> When the kde portion of the updates for bug 23037 are ready, all we will do is test that they install cleanly, and validate and get them moved to updates 19:05:47 <[mbot> Bug: ['installer and mga5->mga6 upgrade failures after Grand Update (URPM incorrectly selects obsolete lib64kf5ksieveui_5 package; subsequent dependencies cause many KDE package conflicts)', 'NEW', 'KDE maintainers'] https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23037 19:05:54 <tarazed_> MrsB: ;-( 19:06:06 <hviaene> Plse no soccer inthis conversattion!!!! 19:06:12 <DavidWHodgins> Then we can resume testing of mgaapplet --testing upgrades from Mageia 5 to 6 19:06:13 <wilcal> I created a monster :-0 19:06:15 <benmc> tried an M5 i586 upgrade last night - failed with the usual conflict 19:06:29 <MrsB> le mans instead :) 19:07:00 <DavidWHodgins> Yes, Until that bug is fixed, i586 upgrades abort part way through. 19:07:07 <wilcal> cauldron even in its present state installs nicely. GUI does not come up at the end 19:07:16 <DavidWHodgins> It's not hard to recover, but not acceptable for release 19:07:46 <rindolf> MrsB: morning 19:07:50 <MrsB> o/ 19:07:58 <DavidWHodgins> Ah. I thought you were talking about an m6 net install. I won't start looking at cauldron until Mageia 6.1 has been released. 19:08:03 <wilcal> Install from the CI or Live-DVD then updating works fine also 19:08:16 <tarazed_> wilcal: mga6 upgrades to Cauldron smoothly enough 19:08:31 <wilcal> Oh my 19:08:35 <hviaene> Is there anything but plasma that blocks the M5-6 upgrade (an the 64-32 issue°??? 19:09:19 <benmc> bugzilla appears to be unavailable.... 19:09:27 <DavidWHodgins> We won't know for sure until the urpm/plasma fixes are in updates. Can't test upgrading with mgaapplet while they are only in testing. 19:09:36 <wilcal> Martin has really been working hard on this 19:09:52 <DavidWHodgins> tv and neoclust too 19:10:27 <DavidWHodgins> benmc: It's working ok here right now 19:10:46 <hviaene> I did a pure 32 bit M5-6 upgrade and that worked very well with Xfce as desktop 19:10:52 <wilcal> It's back now here 19:10:54 <MrsB> it was a bit slow earlier occasionally. Maybe needs a reboot 19:11:32 <DavidWHodgins> Once we have upgrades from 5 to 6 working smoothly, then the option will be turned on to show users the option to upgrade using mgaapplet without the --testing option. 19:11:56 <DavidWHodgins> Then production of Mageia 6.1 iso images can finally start, and start testing. 19:12:05 <MrsB> at last \o/ 19:12:21 <wilcal> The log jam will break 19:12:31 <DavidWHodgins> It should be much smoother than the Mageia 6 iso image testing. Just a matter of ensuring no missing packages 19:12:55 <MrsB> Need also to test ma5 upgrades with the 6.1 isos 19:12:58 <MrsB> g 19:13:09 <DavidWHodgins> True. Thanks for that reminder 19:14:09 <DavidWHodgins> Mageia 7 has been in development for so long, it should go fairly quickly too. Perhaps we'll actually acheive the original goal of 8 months between releases 19:14:39 <wilcal> Sept release? 19:14:52 <hviaene> Don't get me started again on this..... 19:14:53 <wilcal> Holiday season is upon us 19:15:17 <DavidWHodgins> We won't decide till 6.1 is released 19:15:30 <wilcal> Sounds like a plan 19:15:45 <hviaene> And that has o wit for the upgrade problems 19:15:54 <hviaene> wit 19:15:54 <DavidWHodgins> The mgaapplet upgrade problems have been a real blocker. Hopefully that will be behind us soon. 19:16:00 <hviaene> wait 19:16:16 <benmc> sorry, got to go. may be back later 19:16:21 <wilcal> later 19:16:22 <MrsB> cya ben 19:16:26 <DavidWHodgins> Ok benmc 19:16:28 <brian__> mgaaplett? I gave up 19:17:13 <DavidWHodgins> brian__: It's on hold till the urpm/kde updates are pushed 19:17:27 <brian__> ok - good 19:17:34 <DavidWHodgins> Any questions about the upgrade testing or the rest of the schedule? 19:17:46 <wilcal> Not from me 19:17:54 <brian__> I'll read logs 19:18:06 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Testing updates - Any questions or problems, 19:18:16 <tarazed_> Oh yes - will we have a riseup pad for 6.1 testing? 19:18:43 <DavidWHodgins> Thanks everone for all of the work getting the list back down to a reasonable number 19:19:45 <DavidWHodgins> roundcubemail testing procedure is documented in our wik https://wiki.mageia.org/en/QA_procedure:Roundcubemail 19:19:57 <MrsB> it'll be a similar process as other releases Len, normally goes much smoother though 19:20:08 <DavidWHodgins> tarazed_: Yes 19:20:54 <tarazed_> Bug 23052 is a bit sticky - no progress there at all. 19:21:06 <DavidWHodgins> It will be simpler because we will skip the dev/sta, etc. iso names. The first iso images will have the same name as the release iso images. We will use the DATE.txt file to differentiate builds 19:21:50 <neoclust> DavidWHodgins: i will work on this tonigh or tomorow 19:22:00 <DavidWHodgins> neoclust: Thanks! 19:22:08 <hviaene> So noone sees the difference, nice!!! 19:22:50 <DavidWHodgins> It should make the whole testing process a lot easier 19:23:08 <wilcal> I tried 19:23:10 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23117 19:23:12 <[mbot> [ 23117 – USB mouse suspends every two seconds when powertop package is installed ] 19:23:24 <DavidWHodgins> But it does make it much more important that the iso images are not made available to anyone who is not part of the iso testing group 19:23:26 <wilcal> in a Vbox client and couldn't reproduce it 19:23:45 <DavidWHodgins> Especially reviewerrs 19:24:05 <hviaene> I will wite a post on qa_discuss on saturday, (no time tomorrow) and that might bemy last one. G' night all. 19:24:33 <wilcal> nite hv 19:25:17 <brian__> np on keeping it internal 19:25:33 <DavidWHodgins> I'll look through python-twisted and powertop after the meeting 19:25:49 <tarazed_> Thanks Dave 19:26:05 <wilcal> I'll tinker with the flash ugliness 19:26:16 <DavidWHodgins> xdg-utils, we have tested before. It's prety much just install it and check for regressions 19:26:34 <tjandrews> I was going to look at powertop, but didn't get the chance. 19:26:50 <wilcal> I think I've done the imagemageck before 19:26:51 <DavidWHodgins> spd-conf, I don't remember seeing before. Will have to look into it, and perhaps get the reporter to test the update for us 19:27:20 <wilcal> powertop interesting app but my usb mouse was fine 19:27:29 <tarazed_> Re xdg-utils. Shall give it the OK. 19:27:32 <DavidWHodgins> flashplayer plugin is easy to test, but getting harder as more browser block flash (finally!) 19:28:16 <wilcal> Talking to Adobe people at a Tradeshow here they really don't care about it anymore. They're just going through the motions 19:28:41 <wilcal> They have a tool to move to HTML5 and that's they're fix 19:29:14 <tarazed_> wilcal: I am in the middle of the PoC testing for IM just now. 19:29:14 <DavidWHodgins> Ah. Looks like tv chose to open a new bug, bug 23182, to seperate the urpm/task-obsolete fixes from the plasma fixes. We can go ahead and test it for regressions now. 19:29:16 <[mbot> Bug: ['[candidate] perl-URPM & task-obsolete updates', 'NEW', 'QA Team'] https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23182 19:29:30 <wilcal> k 19:29:57 <DavidWHodgins> Would be nice to finally see flash die. It's been a security nightmare since day 1. 19:30:23 <DavidWHodgins> Any questions or comments on the updates for testing? 19:30:41 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Anything else? 19:30:43 <wilcal> Not from me 19:30:48 <wilcal> Not from me 19:30:49 <tarazed_> Nope. 19:30:56 <wilcal> Really a one issue meeting 19:31:01 <DavidWHodgins> Thanks again MrsB for all the help recently 19:31:11 <tarazed_> Except we miss Lewis. 19:31:13 <wilcal> Group hug for MrsB 19:31:19 <tarazed_> Indeed. 19:31:22 <DavidWHodgins> Looks like countdown time 19:31:27 <DavidWHodgins> t - 5 19:31:29 <DavidWHodgins> 4 19:31:32 <DavidWHodgins> 3 19:31:34 <DavidWHodgins> 2 19:31:36 <DavidWHodgins> 1 19:31:38 <MrsB> Only did 90mins, others doin much more! 19:31:43 <DavidWHodgins> Thanks for coming everyone! 19:31:49 <DavidWHodgins> :-) 19:31:52 <wilcal> bye all 19:31:53 <DavidWHodgins> #endmeeting