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20:05:32 <tarazed_> Hiya Lewis
20:05:39 <DavidWHodgins> #chair wilcal tarazed_ lewyssmith_
20:05:39 <Inigo_Montoya> Current chairs: DavidWHodgins lewyssmith_ tarazed_ wilcal
20:05:47 <DavidWHodgins> HiYa tarazed_
20:05:50 <lewyssmith_> tarazed_, Where did you learn this lingo?
20:06:00 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Who's new? - If you are then come and say hello.
20:06:10 <tarazed_> lewis: which?
20:06:19 <lewyssmith_> Hiya
20:06:28 <DavidWHodgins> That's probably from me. :-)
20:06:44 <tarazed_> Guess it is hanging around with our American cousins
20:06:55 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Mageia 6.1
20:07:06 <lewyssmith_> At least you did not say (yet) 'Hanging out'.
20:07:47 <DavidWHodgins> Holding off sending the notice to the iso testers group. Haven't decided whether to give notice it's coming, or just wait till the iso images are being built and the rsync password available
20:07:59 <lewyssmith_> Wait.
20:08:22 <hviaene> Avoid question "When????"
20:09:27 <lewyssmith_> Debian: When it is ready.
20:09:35 <DavidWHodgins> Huh?
20:10:05 <hviaene> Debian' release procedure apparently
20:10:11 <DavidWHodgins> Ah. Ok
20:10:54 <DavidWHodgins> Anyway, still waiting for the kernel/vb updates to be assigned to qa. Once they've cleared, I expect iso images to be available shortly after.
20:11:09 <DavidWHodgins> So likely mid next week
20:11:32 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Mageia 7 features
20:11:46 <wilcal> How long did that meeting go wow
20:11:58 <tarazed_> Getting on for 3 hours
20:12:07 <wilcal> that was really long
20:12:07 <DavidWHodgins> Yep. http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-dev/2017/mageia-dev.2017-11-28-20.10.html
20:12:08 <[mbot> [ #mageia-dev Meeting ]
20:13:19 <DavidWHodgins> The two biggest and most contentious are still to be decided. A two week deadline has been given for the packagers to sort out who wants to work on what etc., and then hopefully we'll make a final decision.
20:13:32 <DavidWHodgins> So still waiting to finalize the list
20:13:38 <lewyssmith_> I have not looked, but hope we can have self-identifying installed systems.
20:14:04 <lewyssmith_> It is a smal thing in the big picture, but imprtant for us.
20:14:48 <tarazed_> Don't think that was on the list.
20:15:12 <lewyssmith_> Gloom.
20:15:39 <DavidWHodgins> I don't remember now if that was discussed. I'll work with the iso builders to see if we can figure out an easy way to do it.
20:16:25 <DavidWHodgins> For the live, it would just be a matter of adding a file that gets updated during the iso build process. For the classical installers, not so easy
20:16:49 <lewyssmith_> At least the ISO dat; ideally its provenance.
20:17:21 <DavidWHodgins> But getting it into the installed system using the classical installer means modifying the installer
20:17:32 <DavidWHodgins> And then there are net installs
20:18:10 <lewyssmith_> Minority.
20:18:27 <wilcal> I love the net installs :-)
20:18:27 <DavidWHodgins> So it may or may not happen, and requires more thought on how it could be implemented
20:18:58 <wilcal> net install from local repo to an ssd is hyper fast
20:19:01 <DavidWHodgins> wilcal: Can be a royal pain in cauldron due to mirors syncing in the middle of packages being built
20:19:22 <DavidWHodgins> #* Testing updates - Any difficulties, problems, issues?
20:19:25 <lewyssmith_> wilcal, But few people do it, Bill.
20:19:35 <wilcal> it does happen but i use kernel,org
20:19:42 <DavidWHodgins> Thanks lewyssmith_ and others for the great work getting the list down
20:19:47 <tarazed_> It does sound a good idea though - local repos.
20:19:59 <wilcal> i've got one to talk about
20:20:09 <lewyssmith_> Updates? Brilliant situation. Thank you Davce for your recent intervention on a couple of bugs.
20:20:21 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22067
20:20:24 <[mbot> [ 22067 – git new security issue CVE-2017-15298 ]
20:20:25 <DavidWHodgins> I'm looking at synfig. It's a bit strange as it includes a devel package that is not required by any other packages. Will sort it out later today hopefully.
20:21:16 <lewyssmith_> wilcal, Bill, it was you who cleared GIT I think.
20:21:26 <wilcal> so pc lx really tested it on x86_64 m5 and I've tested it for basic fuction on all
20:21:34 <DavidWHodgins> wilcal: A question about it?
20:21:40 <hviaene> I leave out the devel packages, because of the tiny disk I have
20:21:46 <wilcal> this is one of those really complex apps that few of us are good at
20:22:07 <wilcal> so based on what's been done there i vote it should be pushed
20:22:23 <lewyssmith_> It has been.
20:22:35 <DavidWHodgins> hviaene: In this case, one of the srpms being updated only contains the one devel package, so that's the only way to test that srpm
20:22:39 <wilcal> ok we run into these from time to time
20:23:22 <DavidWHodgins> I'll sort that one out later today.
20:23:41 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Anything else?
20:23:54 <DavidWHodgins> As I said, short meeting today. :-)
20:24:08 <DavidWHodgins> So does anyone have anything else they'd like to discuss?
20:24:13 <tarazed_> A relief for you after yesterday.
20:24:28 <wilcal> Note: I'm not going to be available on Dec 14
20:24:34 <hviaene> Not really now
20:24:35 <DavidWHodgins> Two days ago, though it does seem like yesterday. :-)
20:24:51 <wilcal> Late into the evening in Europe for some
20:24:53 <DavidWHodgins> Looks like countdown time then
20:24:57 <DavidWHodgins> t - 5
20:24:58 <lewyssmith_> Oh yes: I shall be away next week, but may be able to join in [from Austria].
20:25:02 <wilcal> bye all
20:25:04 <DavidWHodgins> Ok. Thanks
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20:25:12 <hviaene> g'night all
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20:25:17 <tarazed_> Ciao tutti.
20:25:19 <lewyssmith_> Goodbye everyone.
20:25:23 <DavidWHodgins> Thanks for coming everyone!
20:25:28 <DavidWHodgins> #endmeeting