20:05:28 <DavidWHodgins> #startmeeting 20:05:28 <Inigo_Montoya> Meeting started Thu Nov 30 20:05:28 2017 UTC. The chair is DavidWHodgins. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:05:28 <Inigo_Montoya> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 20:05:32 <tarazed_> Hiya Lewis 20:05:39 <DavidWHodgins> #chair wilcal tarazed_ lewyssmith_ 20:05:39 <Inigo_Montoya> Current chairs: DavidWHodgins lewyssmith_ tarazed_ wilcal 20:05:47 <DavidWHodgins> HiYa tarazed_ 20:05:50 <lewyssmith_> tarazed_, Where did you learn this lingo? 20:06:00 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Who's new? - If you are then come and say hello. 20:06:10 <tarazed_> lewis: which? 20:06:19 <lewyssmith_> Hiya 20:06:28 <DavidWHodgins> That's probably from me. :-) 20:06:44 <tarazed_> Guess it is hanging around with our American cousins 20:06:55 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Mageia 6.1 20:07:06 <lewyssmith_> At least you did not say (yet) 'Hanging out'. 20:07:47 <DavidWHodgins> Holding off sending the notice to the iso testers group. Haven't decided whether to give notice it's coming, or just wait till the iso images are being built and the rsync password available 20:07:59 <lewyssmith_> Wait. 20:08:22 <hviaene> Avoid question "When????" 20:09:27 <lewyssmith_> Debian: When it is ready. 20:09:35 <DavidWHodgins> Huh? 20:10:05 <hviaene> Debian' release procedure apparently 20:10:11 <DavidWHodgins> Ah. Ok 20:10:54 <DavidWHodgins> Anyway, still waiting for the kernel/vb updates to be assigned to qa. Once they've cleared, I expect iso images to be available shortly after. 20:11:09 <DavidWHodgins> So likely mid next week 20:11:32 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Mageia 7 features 20:11:46 <wilcal> How long did that meeting go wow 20:11:58 <tarazed_> Getting on for 3 hours 20:12:07 <wilcal> that was really long 20:12:07 <DavidWHodgins> Yep. http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-dev/2017/mageia-dev.2017-11-28-20.10.html 20:12:08 <[mbot> [ #mageia-dev Meeting ] 20:13:19 <DavidWHodgins> The two biggest and most contentious are still to be decided. A two week deadline has been given for the packagers to sort out who wants to work on what etc., and then hopefully we'll make a final decision. 20:13:32 <DavidWHodgins> So still waiting to finalize the list 20:13:38 <lewyssmith_> I have not looked, but hope we can have self-identifying installed systems. 20:14:04 <lewyssmith_> It is a smal thing in the big picture, but imprtant for us. 20:14:48 <tarazed_> Don't think that was on the list. 20:15:12 <lewyssmith_> Gloom. 20:15:39 <DavidWHodgins> I don't remember now if that was discussed. I'll work with the iso builders to see if we can figure out an easy way to do it. 20:16:25 <DavidWHodgins> For the live, it would just be a matter of adding a file that gets updated during the iso build process. For the classical installers, not so easy 20:16:49 <lewyssmith_> At least the ISO dat; ideally its provenance. 20:17:21 <DavidWHodgins> But getting it into the installed system using the classical installer means modifying the installer 20:17:32 <DavidWHodgins> And then there are net installs 20:18:10 <lewyssmith_> Minority. 20:18:27 <wilcal> I love the net installs :-) 20:18:27 <DavidWHodgins> So it may or may not happen, and requires more thought on how it could be implemented 20:18:58 <wilcal> net install from local repo to an ssd is hyper fast 20:19:01 <DavidWHodgins> wilcal: Can be a royal pain in cauldron due to mirors syncing in the middle of packages being built 20:19:22 <DavidWHodgins> #* Testing updates - Any difficulties, problems, issues? 20:19:25 <lewyssmith_> wilcal, But few people do it, Bill. 20:19:35 <wilcal> it does happen but i use kernel,org 20:19:42 <DavidWHodgins> Thanks lewyssmith_ and others for the great work getting the list down 20:19:47 <tarazed_> It does sound a good idea though - local repos. 20:19:59 <wilcal> i've got one to talk about 20:20:09 <lewyssmith_> Updates? Brilliant situation. Thank you Davce for your recent intervention on a couple of bugs. 20:20:21 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22067 20:20:24 <[mbot> [ 22067 – git new security issue CVE-2017-15298 ] 20:20:25 <DavidWHodgins> I'm looking at synfig. It's a bit strange as it includes a devel package that is not required by any other packages. Will sort it out later today hopefully. 20:21:16 <lewyssmith_> wilcal, Bill, it was you who cleared GIT I think. 20:21:26 <wilcal> so pc lx really tested it on x86_64 m5 and I've tested it for basic fuction on all 20:21:34 <DavidWHodgins> wilcal: A question about it? 20:21:40 <hviaene> I leave out the devel packages, because of the tiny disk I have 20:21:46 <wilcal> this is one of those really complex apps that few of us are good at 20:22:07 <wilcal> so based on what's been done there i vote it should be pushed 20:22:23 <lewyssmith_> It has been. 20:22:35 <DavidWHodgins> hviaene: In this case, one of the srpms being updated only contains the one devel package, so that's the only way to test that srpm 20:22:39 <wilcal> ok we run into these from time to time 20:23:22 <DavidWHodgins> I'll sort that one out later today. 20:23:41 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Anything else? 20:23:54 <DavidWHodgins> As I said, short meeting today. :-) 20:24:08 <DavidWHodgins> So does anyone have anything else they'd like to discuss? 20:24:13 <tarazed_> A relief for you after yesterday. 20:24:28 <wilcal> Note: I'm not going to be available on Dec 14 20:24:34 <hviaene> Not really now 20:24:35 <DavidWHodgins> Two days ago, though it does seem like yesterday. :-) 20:24:51 <wilcal> Late into the evening in Europe for some 20:24:53 <DavidWHodgins> Looks like countdown time then 20:24:57 <DavidWHodgins> t - 5 20:24:58 <lewyssmith_> Oh yes: I shall be away next week, but may be able to join in [from Austria]. 20:25:02 <wilcal> bye all 20:25:04 <DavidWHodgins> Ok. Thanks 20:25:07 <DavidWHodgins> 4 20:25:10 <DavidWHodgins> 3 20:25:12 <hviaene> g'night all 20:25:13 <DavidWHodgins> 2 20:25:15 <DavidWHodgins> 1 20:25:17 <tarazed_> Ciao tutti. 20:25:19 <lewyssmith_> Goodbye everyone. 20:25:23 <DavidWHodgins> Thanks for coming everyone! 20:25:28 <DavidWHodgins> #endmeeting