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20:03:44 <wilcal> I think it's the three of us
20:03:48 <wilcal> anyone else?
20:04:20 <wilcal> Hello tmb
20:04:26 <wilcal> light meeting today I think
20:04:35 <wilcal> #topic M5.1 EOL
20:04:57 <wilcal> So we selectively continue support for M5.1 with a brick wall on 31 Dec
20:05:27 <wilcal> Some upgrade research M5.1 -> M6 but IMO that won't go far
20:05:37 <hviaene> Meaning accepting new updates to the last minute?
20:05:59 <wilcal> It'll get frantic in mid dec maybe
20:06:16 <wilcal> got to put an end to it and move on to M7
20:06:28 <wilcal> Mageia community is resource limite
20:06:36 <wilcal> limited
20:07:00 <rindolf> Hi all
20:07:14 <wilcal> Hi rin we're moving along quickly today
20:07:25 <hviaene> We'll get a crowd!!
20:07:37 <wilcal> anything you want to and on M5.1 EOL
20:08:01 <wilcal> Maybe still some confusion on the time change
20:08:19 <wilcal> Is UTC 20:00 ok
20:08:23 <hviaene> @@@@#####
20:08:40 <hviaene> time change that is
20:08:57 <hviaene> OK with me
20:09:00 <Benmc> works for me (yawn)
20:09:00 <wilcal> I always use UTC because the time change is so confusing
20:09:08 <wilcal> so we'll keep it
20:09:19 <wilcal> lets move on
20:09:20 <wilcal> #topic Testing Updates & Backports
20:09:31 <wilcal> The M5 list is very short
20:10:16 <wilcal> I've a couple I wanted to get some feedback on
20:10:29 <hviaene> I am a bit short o, time with this quagga
20:11:15 <wilcal> feel free to just check to make sure it installs and upgrades succesfully
20:11:42 <wilcal> I'll let that one to you for now
20:11:51 <hviaene> It's getting me to unknown territory
20:12:03 <wilcal> Sometimes that's a good thing
20:12:17 <wilcal> Summary: jackson-databind new security issue
20:12:18 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21978
20:12:20 <wilcal> All packages installed without a problem. Push?
20:12:20 <[mbot> [ 21978 – jackson-databind new security issue CVE-2017-15095 ]
20:12:40 <wilcal> I'm gonna validate this one unless someone wants to put some time in it
20:12:42 <hviaene> If it is OK with simple install, I'll have a go at it tomorrow afternoon
20:12:59 <hviaene> quagga
20:13:00 <wilcal> Go for it
20:13:18 <wilcal> My big issue is this one:
20:13:19 <wilcal> Summary: openssl new security issues
20:13:21 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21977
20:13:22 <wilcal> how to set up password. Don't understand or bug?
20:13:22 <[mbot> [ 21977 – openssl new security issues CVE-2017-3735 and CVE-2017-3736 ]
20:13:37 <wilcal> I've successfully tested this for years then something changed
20:13:50 <wilcal> and no one can tell me how to set up the password
20:13:53 <wilcal> that changed
20:14:44 <wilcal> sorry wrong one
20:15:16 <wilcal> this one:
20:15:18 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21991
20:15:20 <[mbot> [ 21991 – PHP 5.6.32 ]
20:16:16 <wilcal> PC LX did a fine job testing it but he's using a rolling test system not a new install
20:16:35 <wilcal> No one can tell me how to apply a password to this
20:16:57 <wilcal> So I don't know if it's a bug or something i don't understand
20:17:05 <wilcal> Something has changed though
20:17:12 <hviaene> You mean for mysql???
20:17:33 <wilcal> Yes
20:18:04 <wilcal> Please someone put a very simple procedure in that bug on how to set up a password for mysql
20:18:14 <hviaene> I don't know from heart, but it is a command with "secure" in it.
20:18:24 <hviaene> Or "security"
20:18:45 <hviaene> Not admin
20:18:54 <wilcal> If you can think of it please note it in there.
20:19:05 <wilcal> That'll get me back on track testing this
20:19:10 <wilcal> is it a bug?
20:19:41 <hviaene> At your orders , Sir !!!thumbup
20:20:29 <hviaene> AFAICS, it's not a bug, it's a change in mysal
20:20:36 <wilcal> Otherwise I'll open a bug for maridb that you can't set the password anymore that that ain't right
20:20:38 <hviaene> mysql
20:20:52 <wilcal> I agree and it happened a few months ago
20:21:06 <hviaene> That's right
20:21:20 <hviaene> I found out by googling around
20:21:33 <wilcal> So think about it. Any help here is great
20:21:59 <hviaene> I think I noted it in the latest mysql update
20:22:52 <hviaene> It's mysql_secure_installation
20:22:57 <wilcal> so if we can get quagga, php and jackson-bind that pretty much knocks out M5
20:23:13 <tmb> it's not a bug in mariadb and you can set password for it... the easiest way is to run the mysql_secure_installation command
20:23:32 <wilcal> Please put that in the bug for future reference. I'll give it a try
20:23:35 <hviaene> Héhé, I was first!
20:23:42 <tmb> :)
20:24:13 <wilcal> I'm not an expert at Webkit
20:24:40 <hviaene> Don't look at me
20:24:40 <wilcal> I can run wine but I need to test that on real HW
20:25:29 <flunch> hi
20:25:36 <wilcal> wine's an interesting app. It'll run 90% of the windows apps
20:25:44 <flunch> lot of talk here
20:25:52 <wilcal> the other 10% are garbage anyway
20:26:04 <wilcal> hello fluch
20:26:14 <wilcal> new here?
20:26:30 <flunch> yes
20:26:49 <wilcal> Welcome to the Mageia QA channel
20:26:57 <flunch> thank you
20:27:01 <wilcal> this meeting occurs 1x per week
20:27:14 <flunch> ok
20:27:17 <wilcal> 20:00 UTC with the new time change
20:27:47 <flunch> I will read the backlog
20:28:02 <wilcal> We are discussing testing Testing Updates & Backports
20:28:19 <wilcal> that list can be found here:
20:28:21 <wilcal> http://madb.mageia.org/tools/updates
20:28:23 <[mbot> [ Mageia App Db - Current Update candidates ]
20:28:32 <flunch> ok
20:28:41 <wilcal> something there for everyone to tinker with
20:29:33 <wilcal> Where are you from flunch?
20:29:44 <flunch> france
20:30:02 <wilcal> Mageia is popular in France
20:30:18 <wilcal> It's a French listed group
20:30:29 <flunch> (chartres)
20:30:38 <wilcal> Have you used Mageia
20:30:58 <flunch> not yet
20:31:16 <flunch> my computer is too slow
20:31:22 <wilcal> We should move on to:
20:31:25 <wilcal> #topic Anything else?
20:31:27 <flunch> first I need to get a new computer
20:31:32 <wilcal> kool
20:31:39 <wilcal> you a student?
20:31:48 <flunch> no
20:32:06 <wilcal> Anything else here group?
20:32:19 <rindolf> wilcal: no
20:32:37 <wilcal> Hello tara
20:32:40 <hviaene> Old machines are goor to test 32-bit, but don't use plasma as desktop, take MATE or Xfce
20:32:52 <hviaene> goor- good
20:33:00 <tarazed_> Hi Bill.  Fell asleep don't you know.
20:33:12 <wilcal> Well no problem. Short meeting today
20:33:15 <flunch> this machine has 32MB of ram, it cannot run Mageia I've been told
20:33:23 <wilcal> Bugs to test is short.
20:33:30 <wilcal> M5 is almost empty
20:33:31 <flunch> it's an old computer I found this weekend
20:33:46 <wilcal> What are you using now?
20:33:53 <hviaene> 32Mb, must be very old
20:33:56 <flunch> debian
20:34:47 <wilcal> I don't think you can buy a new 32-bit machine anymore
20:35:05 <hviaene> flunch: you just run at CLI??
20:35:29 <flunch> I used to be running linux years ago, then I lost interest in computers and haven't had a computer at home for years until this weekend
20:35:33 <flunch> hviaene: yes
20:35:45 <wilcal> Anything else group otherwise we should bring this to an end
20:35:50 <flunch> there is problem with XF86 driver
20:36:17 <hviaene> Try mageia, you might be surrprised
20:36:35 <flunch> people told me it doesn't work with 32MB
20:36:43 <wilcal> Xfce or Mate user interface
20:36:56 <hviaene> not with a graphic desktop
20:37:15 <wilcal> M6 Plasma on 32-bit works but older platforms my struggle
20:37:16 <flunch> I'm considering getting a new computer
20:37:24 <hviaene> but you caan install mageia without such one
20:37:25 <wilcal> Install with either Xfce or Mate
20:37:59 <Benmc> 32mb would put it at about 15 years older if laptop / desktop
20:38:12 <flunch> yep
20:38:35 <wilcal> My favorite light weight Linux Distro is:
20:38:37 <wilcal> http://puppylinux.com/
20:38:37 <hviaene> Much older I guess
20:38:57 <wilcal> Works great on the old XP machines
20:39:06 <wilcal> Better then Win98
20:39:24 <tarazed_> Makw sure you have plenty od swap.
20:39:29 <wilcal> anyway anything else
20:39:36 <Benmc> Can I bring up cauldron?
20:39:38 <hviaene> Not from me
20:39:59 <wilcal> you've got the platform Ben
20:40:15 <Benmc> basic system upgrades seem to be do-able.
20:40:18 <wilcal> I haven't look at M7 yet
20:40:38 <Benmc> I havent tried with extra rpms installed.
20:41:05 <tarazed_> Yes, it upgraded fine here.
20:41:11 <Benmc> end results seem to be stable
20:41:36 <Benmc> just a few things, had to manually upgrade the kernel
20:42:15 <Benmc> Plasma windows have no close/ min/ maximize buttons
20:42:37 <hviaene> Have to go, g'night all
20:42:44 <wilcal> Nite
20:42:45 <tarazed_> Bye Herman
20:42:56 <wilcal> Time to close this meeting anything else?
20:43:13 <wilcal> not from me
20:43:18 <Benmc> gnot here
20:43:31 <tarazed_> Thanks for chairing wilcal
20:43:31 <wilcal> Count down time
20:43:41 <wilcal> thanks for joining us flunch
20:43:46 <wilcal> t-5
20:43:54 <wilcal> t-4
20:43:57 <wilcal> t-3
20:44:02 <wilcal> t-2
20:44:02 <tarazed_> See you,
20:44:06 <wilcal> t-1
20:44:09 <wilcal> bye all
20:44:11 <Bequimao> Good bye!
20:44:13 <wilcal> #endmeeting