20:03:34 <wilcal> #startmeeting 20:03:34 <Inigo_Montoya`> Meeting started Thu Nov 9 20:03:34 2017 UTC. The chair is wilcal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:03:34 <Inigo_Montoya`> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 20:03:44 <wilcal> I think it's the three of us 20:03:48 <wilcal> anyone else? 20:04:20 <wilcal> Hello tmb 20:04:26 <wilcal> light meeting today I think 20:04:35 <wilcal> #topic M5.1 EOL 20:04:57 <wilcal> So we selectively continue support for M5.1 with a brick wall on 31 Dec 20:05:27 <wilcal> Some upgrade research M5.1 -> M6 but IMO that won't go far 20:05:37 <hviaene> Meaning accepting new updates to the last minute? 20:05:59 <wilcal> It'll get frantic in mid dec maybe 20:06:16 <wilcal> got to put an end to it and move on to M7 20:06:28 <wilcal> Mageia community is resource limite 20:06:36 <wilcal> limited 20:07:00 <rindolf> Hi all 20:07:14 <wilcal> Hi rin we're moving along quickly today 20:07:25 <hviaene> We'll get a crowd!! 20:07:37 <wilcal> anything you want to and on M5.1 EOL 20:08:01 <wilcal> Maybe still some confusion on the time change 20:08:19 <wilcal> Is UTC 20:00 ok 20:08:23 <hviaene> @@@@##### 20:08:40 <hviaene> time change that is 20:08:57 <hviaene> OK with me 20:09:00 <Benmc> works for me (yawn) 20:09:00 <wilcal> I always use UTC because the time change is so confusing 20:09:08 <wilcal> so we'll keep it 20:09:19 <wilcal> lets move on 20:09:20 <wilcal> #topic Testing Updates & Backports 20:09:31 <wilcal> The M5 list is very short 20:10:16 <wilcal> I've a couple I wanted to get some feedback on 20:10:29 <hviaene> I am a bit short o, time with this quagga 20:11:15 <wilcal> feel free to just check to make sure it installs and upgrades succesfully 20:11:42 <wilcal> I'll let that one to you for now 20:11:51 <hviaene> It's getting me to unknown territory 20:12:03 <wilcal> Sometimes that's a good thing 20:12:17 <wilcal> Summary: jackson-databind new security issue 20:12:18 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21978 20:12:20 <wilcal> All packages installed without a problem. Push? 20:12:20 <[mbot> [ 21978 – jackson-databind new security issue CVE-2017-15095 ] 20:12:40 <wilcal> I'm gonna validate this one unless someone wants to put some time in it 20:12:42 <hviaene> If it is OK with simple install, I'll have a go at it tomorrow afternoon 20:12:59 <hviaene> quagga 20:13:00 <wilcal> Go for it 20:13:18 <wilcal> My big issue is this one: 20:13:19 <wilcal> Summary: openssl new security issues 20:13:21 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21977 20:13:22 <wilcal> how to set up password. Don't understand or bug? 20:13:22 <[mbot> [ 21977 – openssl new security issues CVE-2017-3735 and CVE-2017-3736 ] 20:13:37 <wilcal> I've successfully tested this for years then something changed 20:13:50 <wilcal> and no one can tell me how to set up the password 20:13:53 <wilcal> that changed 20:14:44 <wilcal> sorry wrong one 20:15:16 <wilcal> this one: 20:15:18 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21991 20:15:20 <[mbot> [ 21991 – PHP 5.6.32 ] 20:16:16 <wilcal> PC LX did a fine job testing it but he's using a rolling test system not a new install 20:16:35 <wilcal> No one can tell me how to apply a password to this 20:16:57 <wilcal> So I don't know if it's a bug or something i don't understand 20:17:05 <wilcal> Something has changed though 20:17:12 <hviaene> You mean for mysql??? 20:17:33 <wilcal> Yes 20:18:04 <wilcal> Please someone put a very simple procedure in that bug on how to set up a password for mysql 20:18:14 <hviaene> I don't know from heart, but it is a command with "secure" in it. 20:18:24 <hviaene> Or "security" 20:18:45 <hviaene> Not admin 20:18:54 <wilcal> If you can think of it please note it in there. 20:19:05 <wilcal> That'll get me back on track testing this 20:19:10 <wilcal> is it a bug? 20:19:41 <hviaene> At your orders , Sir !!!thumbup 20:20:29 <hviaene> AFAICS, it's not a bug, it's a change in mysal 20:20:36 <wilcal> Otherwise I'll open a bug for maridb that you can't set the password anymore that that ain't right 20:20:38 <hviaene> mysql 20:20:52 <wilcal> I agree and it happened a few months ago 20:21:06 <hviaene> That's right 20:21:20 <hviaene> I found out by googling around 20:21:33 <wilcal> So think about it. Any help here is great 20:21:59 <hviaene> I think I noted it in the latest mysql update 20:22:52 <hviaene> It's mysql_secure_installation 20:22:57 <wilcal> so if we can get quagga, php and jackson-bind that pretty much knocks out M5 20:23:13 <tmb> it's not a bug in mariadb and you can set password for it... the easiest way is to run the mysql_secure_installation command 20:23:32 <wilcal> Please put that in the bug for future reference. I'll give it a try 20:23:35 <hviaene> Héhé, I was first! 20:23:42 <tmb> :) 20:24:13 <wilcal> I'm not an expert at Webkit 20:24:40 <hviaene> Don't look at me 20:24:40 <wilcal> I can run wine but I need to test that on real HW 20:25:29 <flunch> hi 20:25:36 <wilcal> wine's an interesting app. It'll run 90% of the windows apps 20:25:44 <flunch> lot of talk here 20:25:52 <wilcal> the other 10% are garbage anyway 20:26:04 <wilcal> hello fluch 20:26:14 <wilcal> new here? 20:26:30 <flunch> yes 20:26:49 <wilcal> Welcome to the Mageia QA channel 20:26:57 <flunch> thank you 20:27:01 <wilcal> this meeting occurs 1x per week 20:27:14 <flunch> ok 20:27:17 <wilcal> 20:00 UTC with the new time change 20:27:47 <flunch> I will read the backlog 20:28:02 <wilcal> We are discussing testing Testing Updates & Backports 20:28:19 <wilcal> that list can be found here: 20:28:21 <wilcal> http://madb.mageia.org/tools/updates 20:28:23 <[mbot> [ Mageia App Db - Current Update candidates ] 20:28:32 <flunch> ok 20:28:41 <wilcal> something there for everyone to tinker with 20:29:33 <wilcal> Where are you from flunch? 20:29:44 <flunch> france 20:30:02 <wilcal> Mageia is popular in France 20:30:18 <wilcal> It's a French listed group 20:30:29 <flunch> (chartres) 20:30:38 <wilcal> Have you used Mageia 20:30:58 <flunch> not yet 20:31:16 <flunch> my computer is too slow 20:31:22 <wilcal> We should move on to: 20:31:25 <wilcal> #topic Anything else? 20:31:27 <flunch> first I need to get a new computer 20:31:32 <wilcal> kool 20:31:39 <wilcal> you a student? 20:31:48 <flunch> no 20:32:06 <wilcal> Anything else here group? 20:32:19 <rindolf> wilcal: no 20:32:37 <wilcal> Hello tara 20:32:40 <hviaene> Old machines are goor to test 32-bit, but don't use plasma as desktop, take MATE or Xfce 20:32:52 <hviaene> goor- good 20:33:00 <tarazed_> Hi Bill. Fell asleep don't you know. 20:33:12 <wilcal> Well no problem. Short meeting today 20:33:15 <flunch> this machine has 32MB of ram, it cannot run Mageia I've been told 20:33:23 <wilcal> Bugs to test is short. 20:33:30 <wilcal> M5 is almost empty 20:33:31 <flunch> it's an old computer I found this weekend 20:33:46 <wilcal> What are you using now? 20:33:53 <hviaene> 32Mb, must be very old 20:33:56 <flunch> debian 20:34:47 <wilcal> I don't think you can buy a new 32-bit machine anymore 20:35:05 <hviaene> flunch: you just run at CLI?? 20:35:29 <flunch> I used to be running linux years ago, then I lost interest in computers and haven't had a computer at home for years until this weekend 20:35:33 <flunch> hviaene: yes 20:35:45 <wilcal> Anything else group otherwise we should bring this to an end 20:35:50 <flunch> there is problem with XF86 driver 20:36:17 <hviaene> Try mageia, you might be surrprised 20:36:35 <flunch> people told me it doesn't work with 32MB 20:36:43 <wilcal> Xfce or Mate user interface 20:36:56 <hviaene> not with a graphic desktop 20:37:15 <wilcal> M6 Plasma on 32-bit works but older platforms my struggle 20:37:16 <flunch> I'm considering getting a new computer 20:37:24 <hviaene> but you caan install mageia without such one 20:37:25 <wilcal> Install with either Xfce or Mate 20:37:59 <Benmc> 32mb would put it at about 15 years older if laptop / desktop 20:38:12 <flunch> yep 20:38:35 <wilcal> My favorite light weight Linux Distro is: 20:38:37 <wilcal> http://puppylinux.com/ 20:38:37 <hviaene> Much older I guess 20:38:57 <wilcal> Works great on the old XP machines 20:39:06 <wilcal> Better then Win98 20:39:24 <tarazed_> Makw sure you have plenty od swap. 20:39:29 <wilcal> anyway anything else 20:39:36 <Benmc> Can I bring up cauldron? 20:39:38 <hviaene> Not from me 20:39:59 <wilcal> you've got the platform Ben 20:40:15 <Benmc> basic system upgrades seem to be do-able. 20:40:18 <wilcal> I haven't look at M7 yet 20:40:38 <Benmc> I havent tried with extra rpms installed. 20:41:05 <tarazed_> Yes, it upgraded fine here. 20:41:11 <Benmc> end results seem to be stable 20:41:36 <Benmc> just a few things, had to manually upgrade the kernel 20:42:15 <Benmc> Plasma windows have no close/ min/ maximize buttons 20:42:37 <hviaene> Have to go, g'night all 20:42:44 <wilcal> Nite 20:42:45 <tarazed_> Bye Herman 20:42:56 <wilcal> Time to close this meeting anything else? 20:43:13 <wilcal> not from me 20:43:18 <Benmc> gnot here 20:43:31 <tarazed_> Thanks for chairing wilcal 20:43:31 <wilcal> Count down time 20:43:41 <wilcal> thanks for joining us flunch 20:43:46 <wilcal> t-5 20:43:54 <wilcal> t-4 20:43:57 <wilcal> t-3 20:44:02 <wilcal> t-2 20:44:02 <tarazed_> See you, 20:44:06 <wilcal> t-1 20:44:09 <wilcal> bye all 20:44:11 <Bequimao> Good bye! 20:44:13 <wilcal> #endmeeting