19:03:14 <wilcal> #startmeeting 19:03:14 <Inigo_Montoya> Meeting started Thu Sep 28 19:03:14 2017 UTC. The chair is wilcal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:03:14 <Inigo_Montoya> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 19:03:20 <lewyssmith> In NZ? I found it cold even in summer. 19:03:31 <wilcal> #topic Who's new? 19:04:10 <wilcal> Anyone new? 19:04:15 <lewyssmith> If you are new to this QA IRC session, please announce yourself. 19:04:52 <wilcal> Nobody 19:04:56 <wilcal> move on 19:05:06 <lewyssmith> Yes. 19:05:08 <wilcal> #topic Restriction of users rights in our bugzilla 19:05:16 <lewyssmith> Please explain. 19:05:28 <wilcal> Lots of discussion on this yes I need someone to explain 19:05:38 <lewyssmith> Discussion where? 19:05:51 <wilcal> on the council mailing list 19:06:12 <lewyssmith> Not my scene. 19:06:23 <wikigazer> jkerr82508: thanks! will have a look 19:06:31 <lewyssmith> Is there a problem? 19:06:31 <wilcal> Just wanted to make sure everyone is aware of potential changes to Bugzilla 19:06:48 <wilcal> No problem more feature changes/improvements 19:07:12 <lewyssmith> I like Bugzilla. It is really good. 19:07:17 <wilcal> Just be aware this is all going on 19:07:50 <Benmc> I understand that longtime users wont be affected (much), just new users. 19:07:57 <wilcal> ok 19:08:04 <lewyssmith> We have already seen a few changes since M6. 19:09:15 <wilcal> Lets move on then probably short meeting today 19:09:17 <wilcal> #topic 32 days to M5 EOL 19:09:47 <jkerr82508> IIUC the restrictions apply to the wiki not to bugzilla 19:09:47 <wilcal> I speak for David he feels very strongly that all bugs be cleared before we EOL a version 19:10:09 <wilcal> That's why I wanted to bring this up 19:10:28 <wilcal> There's some kernels in updates_testing 19:10:51 <lewyssmith> We all do M5 updates.No kernels yet. 19:11:08 <wilcal> We should be thinking about what's important or not 19:11:35 <lewyssmith> ghostscript & rawtherapee are the only 2 new updates. 19:12:02 <lewyssmith> Probably not problematic. The other 2 are months old. 19:12:03 <wilcal> ghostscript is a career builder 19:12:23 <lewyssmith> I thought it was easy to test, basically. 19:12:24 <Benmc> "nobody" probably should be fixed before EOL. 19:12:41 <lewyssmith> Agree. If somebody does it. 19:12:53 <wilcal> I agree. What is the official bug on that one 19:13:15 <lewyssmith> It does exist, with recent comments. 19:13:36 <Benmc> bug 21624 ? 19:13:38 <[mbot> Bug: ['Users nobody (and sometimes root) is displayed in KDM connection screen', 'NEW', 'KDE maintainers'] https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21624 19:14:21 <wilcal> I'll carry the word at the next Council meeting that that has to be fixed before M5 EOL 19:15:20 <lewyssmith> Decent of you. 19:16:05 <wilcal> Lets keep this subject alive until EOL because some people have very strong feelings on this. Not just David 19:16:38 <wilcal> Move on 19:16:40 <wilcal> #topic Testing Updates & Backports 19:16:47 <wilcal> so the list is really short 19:16:59 <wilcal> but there's a couple in there that are persistant 19:17:15 <lewyssmith> Not the M6 one - it regrows all the time! 19:17:41 <wilcal> where are we at on pjproject and db? 19:17:50 <wilcal> both are tough 19:18:34 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21203 19:18:36 <[mbot> [ 21203 – db new security issue (reads DB_CONFIG from cwd) - CVE-2017-10140 ] 19:18:40 <lewyssmith> pjproject is *not* tough if you can get the application to work. 19:18:58 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21505 19:19:00 <[mbot> [ 21505 – pjproject new security issues CVE-2017-9359 and CVE-2017-9372 ] 19:19:21 <wilcal> so these have been hang'n around for awhile 19:19:30 <lewyssmith> Months. 19:19:47 <wilcal> David said he'd make a run at them but for whatever reason he hasn't gotten to them 19:20:06 <lewyssmith> I reminded him about that. 19:20:44 <wilcal> so for now I'd leave them for David but next meeting we have to make a decision 19:21:34 <lewyssmith> The power management update wants a portable PC on mains, with IDE disc. 19:22:12 <lewyssmith> I guess Herman has done it. We can ask the two complainants also. 19:22:19 <wilcal> Does that permanitely change the settings on the HD or is it all in the OS? 19:23:02 <lewyssmith> udev rules. 19:23:08 <wilcal> #chair lewyssmith 19:23:08 <Inigo_Montoya> Current chairs: lewyssmith wilcal 19:23:13 <lewyssmith> BTW How can 'anybody' get an update from updates_testing? 19:23:34 <wilcal> I kinda do that a lot 19:23:56 <wilcal> I turn on and off updates_testing 19:24:10 <lewyssmith> urpmi just citinf --repository 'updates testing' or similar? 19:24:20 <wilcal> I'm using the unreleased youtube-dl gui already 19:25:01 <hviaene> I have it on all the time, but I don't get notifications from it, if that is what you're after 19:25:15 <wilcal> Ahhh interesting 19:25:18 <lewyssmith> The acme bug needs a spezcial setup, otherwisde asy to test. 19:26:48 <wilcal> I think there's some kernels on the way. tmb's not here 19:27:17 <lewyssmith> There are so many. 19:27:37 <wilcal> just seeing if there close 19:27:48 <wilcal> they are in the updates_testing repo 19:28:09 <lewyssmith> All 12? 19:28:18 <wilcal> brb lemme look 19:29:28 <wilcal> desktop and server got put in on the 21st 19:30:05 <wilcal> 4.9.51-1 19:30:16 <lewyssmith> It would not be a bad idea to phase them, make testing easier. 19:30:20 <wilcal> that's it for now 19:30:52 <wilcal> anyway those have been there for a few days but tmb has not raised the bug(s) yet 19:31:09 <wilcal> anything else on updates? 19:31:38 <wilcal> anything else on updates? 19:31:44 <lewyssmith> Only that we are clearing them rapidly at presnt (mostly). 19:31:56 <wilcal> ghostscript I'm not worthy 19:32:01 <tarazed> ghostscript will take a while. 19:32:15 <lewyssmith> I will have a look, if Len does not get there first. 19:32:16 <wilcal> is that a popular platform 19:32:35 <tarazed> T am already looking at it - string of PoCs. 19:32:40 <lewyssmith> It is *basic* to Unix systems. 19:33:00 <lewyssmith> tarazed, Hello Len? when did you arrive? 19:33:19 <tarazed> A few minutes ago - still trying to wake up. 19:33:24 <wilcal> as always I encourage some kind of simplistic test proceedure so that others can test it in the future 19:33:41 <lewyssmith> PoCs can make life easy. 19:34:08 <tarazed> Some of the gs ones need gxps - ?? 19:34:25 <hviaene> Simplistic, that's my avenue;) 19:34:55 <tarazed> herman: not so - you do some pretty complicated things. 19:34:57 <lewyssmith> tarazed, We shall sort it. Ghostscriot is at least comprehensible. 19:35:07 <wilcal> go for it guys 19:35:18 <wilcal> anything else? 19:35:24 <wilcal> pjproject and db need to be cleared 19:35:28 <lewyssmith> Changing topic? 19:35:45 <wilcal> #topic Anything else? 19:35:57 <lewyssmith> -4 Agree. 19:36:04 <tarazed> How far to mga5 eol? 19:36:13 <lewyssmith> 32d. 19:36:25 <wilcal> i did a net install of M6 x86_64 Plasma today and that went flawlessly 19:36:54 <tarazed> So next month we start to look at Cauldron. 19:37:07 <lewyssmith> Meaning? 19:37:12 <wilcal> Mmm i think a little early on M7 19:37:33 <Benmc> but not looking very hard at it 19:37:34 <lewyssmith> Most certainly. 19:37:46 <tarazed> hi ben 19:37:55 <Benmc> Tarazed, hi 19:38:35 <wilcal> I wouldn't think of M7 till maybe after the Holidays 19:38:54 <lewyssmith> And whatever is to be new is *done*. 19:38:56 <tarazed> Good 19:39:20 <wilcal> So I think that is about it for today. Anything else? 19:39:34 <Benmc> yep. 19:39:43 <lewyssmith> Not here. Thanks for your usual work on this meeting. 19:39:47 <wilcal> Count down time 19:39:54 <hviaene> I just can confirm the "nobody" problem 19:39:56 <lewyssmith> (that was to Bill). 19:39:58 <Benmc> upgrades from M5 to 6 19:40:06 <wilcal> T-5 19:40:11 <lewyssmith> Stil causing grief. 19:40:16 <wilcal> T-4 19:40:20 <Benmc> just checking 19:40:21 <wilcal> thanks all for being here 19:40:24 <lewyssmith> Goodbye everyone. 19:40:25 <wilcal> T-3 19:40:30 <hviaene> G'night all 19:40:31 <wilcal> T-2 19:40:37 <wilcal> T-1 19:40:39 <wilcal> #endmeeting