19:03:14 <wilcal> #startmeeting
19:03:14 <Inigo_Montoya> Meeting started Thu Sep 28 19:03:14 2017 UTC.  The chair is wilcal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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19:03:20 <lewyssmith> In NZ? I found it cold even in summer.
19:03:31 <wilcal> #topic Who's new?
19:04:10 <wilcal> Anyone new?
19:04:15 <lewyssmith> If you are new to this QA IRC session, please announce yourself.
19:04:52 <wilcal> Nobody
19:04:56 <wilcal> move on
19:05:06 <lewyssmith> Yes.
19:05:08 <wilcal> #topic Restriction of users rights in our bugzilla
19:05:16 <lewyssmith> Please explain.
19:05:28 <wilcal> Lots of discussion on this yes I need someone to explain
19:05:38 <lewyssmith> Discussion where?
19:05:51 <wilcal> on the council mailing list
19:06:12 <lewyssmith> Not my scene.
19:06:23 <wikigazer> jkerr82508: thanks! will have a look
19:06:31 <lewyssmith> Is there a problem?
19:06:31 <wilcal> Just wanted to make sure everyone is aware of potential changes to Bugzilla
19:06:48 <wilcal> No problem more feature changes/improvements
19:07:12 <lewyssmith> I like Bugzilla. It is really good.
19:07:17 <wilcal> Just be aware this is all going on
19:07:50 <Benmc> I understand that longtime users wont be affected (much), just new users.
19:07:57 <wilcal> ok
19:08:04 <lewyssmith> We have already seen a few changes since M6.
19:09:15 <wilcal> Lets move on then probably short meeting today
19:09:17 <wilcal> #topic 32 days to M5 EOL
19:09:47 <jkerr82508> IIUC the restrictions apply to the wiki not to bugzilla
19:09:47 <wilcal> I speak for David he feels very strongly that all bugs be cleared before we EOL a version
19:10:09 <wilcal> That's why I wanted to bring this up
19:10:28 <wilcal> There's some kernels in updates_testing
19:10:51 <lewyssmith> We all do M5 updates.No kernels yet.
19:11:08 <wilcal> We should be thinking about what's important or not
19:11:35 <lewyssmith> ghostscript & rawtherapee are the only 2 new updates.
19:12:02 <lewyssmith> Probably not problematic. The other 2 are months old.
19:12:03 <wilcal> ghostscript is a career builder
19:12:23 <lewyssmith> I thought it was easy to test, basically.
19:12:24 <Benmc> "nobody" probably should be fixed before EOL.
19:12:41 <lewyssmith> Agree. If somebody does it.
19:12:53 <wilcal> I agree. What is the official bug on that one
19:13:15 <lewyssmith> It does exist, with recent comments.
19:13:36 <Benmc> bug 21624 ?
19:13:38 <[mbot> Bug: ['Users nobody (and sometimes root) is displayed in KDM connection screen', 'NEW', 'KDE maintainers'] https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21624
19:14:21 <wilcal> I'll carry the word at the next Council meeting that that has to be fixed before M5 EOL
19:15:20 <lewyssmith> Decent of you.
19:16:05 <wilcal> Lets keep this subject alive until EOL because some people have very strong feelings on this. Not just David
19:16:38 <wilcal> Move on
19:16:40 <wilcal> #topic Testing Updates & Backports
19:16:47 <wilcal> so the list is really short
19:16:59 <wilcal> but there's a couple in there that are persistant
19:17:15 <lewyssmith> Not the M6 one - it regrows all the time!
19:17:41 <wilcal> where are we at on pjproject and db?
19:17:50 <wilcal> both are tough
19:18:34 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21203
19:18:36 <[mbot> [ 21203 – db new security issue (reads DB_CONFIG from cwd) - CVE-2017-10140 ]
19:18:40 <lewyssmith> pjproject is *not* tough if you can get the application to work.
19:18:58 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21505
19:19:00 <[mbot> [ 21505 – pjproject new security issues CVE-2017-9359 and CVE-2017-9372 ]
19:19:21 <wilcal> so these have been hang'n around for awhile
19:19:30 <lewyssmith> Months.
19:19:47 <wilcal> David said he'd make a run at them but for whatever reason he hasn't gotten to them
19:20:06 <lewyssmith> I reminded him about that.
19:20:44 <wilcal> so for now I'd leave them for David but next meeting we have to make a decision
19:21:34 <lewyssmith> The power management update wants a portable PC on mains, with IDE disc.
19:22:12 <lewyssmith> I guess Herman has done it. We can ask the two complainants also.
19:22:19 <wilcal> Does that permanitely change the settings on the HD or is it all in the OS?
19:23:02 <lewyssmith> udev rules.
19:23:08 <wilcal> #chair lewyssmith
19:23:08 <Inigo_Montoya> Current chairs: lewyssmith wilcal
19:23:13 <lewyssmith> BTW How can 'anybody' get an update from updates_testing?
19:23:34 <wilcal> I kinda do that a lot
19:23:56 <wilcal> I turn on and off updates_testing
19:24:10 <lewyssmith> urpmi just citinf --repository 'updates testing' or similar?
19:24:20 <wilcal> I'm using the unreleased youtube-dl gui already
19:25:01 <hviaene> I have it on all the time, but I don't get notifications from it, if that is what you're after
19:25:15 <wilcal> Ahhh interesting
19:25:18 <lewyssmith> The acme bug needs a spezcial setup, otherwisde asy to test.
19:26:48 <wilcal> I think there's some kernels on the way. tmb's not here
19:27:17 <lewyssmith> There are so many.
19:27:37 <wilcal> just seeing if there close
19:27:48 <wilcal> they are in the updates_testing repo
19:28:09 <lewyssmith> All 12?
19:28:18 <wilcal> brb lemme look
19:29:28 <wilcal> desktop and server got put in on the 21st
19:30:05 <wilcal> 4.9.51-1
19:30:16 <lewyssmith> It would not be a bad idea to phase them, make testing easier.
19:30:20 <wilcal> that's it for now
19:30:52 <wilcal> anyway those have been there for a few days but tmb has not raised the bug(s) yet
19:31:09 <wilcal> anything else on updates?
19:31:38 <wilcal> anything else on updates?
19:31:44 <lewyssmith> Only that we are clearing them rapidly at presnt (mostly).
19:31:56 <wilcal> ghostscript I'm not worthy
19:32:01 <tarazed> ghostscript will take a while.
19:32:15 <lewyssmith> I will have a look, if Len does not get there first.
19:32:16 <wilcal> is that a popular platform
19:32:35 <tarazed> T am already looking at it - string of PoCs.
19:32:40 <lewyssmith> It is *basic* to Unix systems.
19:33:00 <lewyssmith> tarazed, Hello Len? when did you arrive?
19:33:19 <tarazed> A few minutes ago - still trying to wake up.
19:33:24 <wilcal> as always I encourage some kind of simplistic test proceedure so that others can test it in the future
19:33:41 <lewyssmith> PoCs can make life easy.
19:34:08 <tarazed> Some of the gs ones need gxps - ??
19:34:25 <hviaene> Simplistic, that's my avenue;)
19:34:55 <tarazed> herman: not so - you do some pretty complicated things.
19:34:57 <lewyssmith> tarazed, We shall sort it. Ghostscriot is at least comprehensible.
19:35:07 <wilcal> go for it guys
19:35:18 <wilcal> anything else?
19:35:24 <wilcal> pjproject and db need to be cleared
19:35:28 <lewyssmith> Changing topic?
19:35:45 <wilcal> #topic Anything else?
19:35:57 <lewyssmith> -4 Agree.
19:36:04 <tarazed> How far to mga5 eol?
19:36:13 <lewyssmith> 32d.
19:36:25 <wilcal> i did a net install of M6 x86_64 Plasma today and that went flawlessly
19:36:54 <tarazed> So next month we start to look at Cauldron.
19:37:07 <lewyssmith> Meaning?
19:37:12 <wilcal> Mmm i think a little early on M7
19:37:33 <Benmc> but not looking very hard at it
19:37:34 <lewyssmith> Most certainly.
19:37:46 <tarazed> hi ben
19:37:55 <Benmc> Tarazed, hi
19:38:35 <wilcal> I wouldn't think of M7 till maybe after the Holidays
19:38:54 <lewyssmith> And whatever is to be new is *done*.
19:38:56 <tarazed> Good
19:39:20 <wilcal> So I think that is about it for today. Anything else?
19:39:34 <Benmc> yep.
19:39:43 <lewyssmith> Not here. Thanks for your usual work on this meeting.
19:39:47 <wilcal> Count down time
19:39:54 <hviaene> I just can confirm the "nobody" problem
19:39:56 <lewyssmith> (that was to Bill).
19:39:58 <Benmc> upgrades from M5 to 6
19:40:06 <wilcal> T-5
19:40:11 <lewyssmith> Stil causing grief.
19:40:16 <wilcal> T-4
19:40:20 <Benmc> just checking
19:40:21 <wilcal> thanks all for being here
19:40:24 <lewyssmith> Goodbye everyone.
19:40:25 <wilcal> T-3
19:40:30 <hviaene> G'night all
19:40:31 <wilcal> T-2
19:40:37 <wilcal> T-1
19:40:39 <wilcal> #endmeeting