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19:06:13 <lewyssmith> kekePower, Yes, I remeber seeing Stig.
19:06:16 <wilcal> #chair lewyssmith
19:06:16 <Inigo_Montoya> Current chairs: lewyssmith wilcal
19:06:35 <kekePower> lewyssmith: :)
19:06:38 <wilcal> #topic Who's new?
19:06:49 <wilcal> welcome keke
19:06:53 <kekePower> well, I'm on my second run here on IRC
19:07:05 <rindolf> kekePower: hi
19:07:09 <wilcal> your sure welcome here
19:07:10 <kekePower> hi all :-)
19:07:12 <lewyssmith> So not ew! But where are you - Scandinavia?
19:07:18 <kekePower> Yeah, Norway
19:07:30 <rindolf> kekePower: nice to meet you - I am Shlomi from Israel
19:07:33 <wilcal> I've been to Oslo a couple times
19:07:36 <wilcal> :-)
19:07:42 <lewyssmith> Blonds with strong American accents...
19:07:46 <wilcal> It gets cold there in Feb
19:07:50 <kekePower> rindolf: I read a little on your blog. Funny :-)
19:08:18 <kekePower> I live just west of Oslo. 15 mins by car
19:08:37 <rindolf> kekePower: do you mean http://www.shlomifish.org/ ?
19:08:38 <[mbot> [ Shlomi Fish’s Homepage ]
19:08:40 <wilcal> Nice beautiful country
19:08:44 <kekePower> rindolf: yes
19:09:02 <lewyssmith> kekePower, I amLewis, a Celtic expatriot in France.
19:09:04 <rindolf> kekePower: then see http://www.shlomifish.org/meta/FAQ/#homesite_or_blog
19:09:05 <[mbot> [ Shlomi Fish’s Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) List ]
19:09:24 <rindolf> kekePower: I am glad you liked it though
19:09:28 <kekePower> rindolf: :-) Yeahyeah :O
19:09:35 <wilcal> "wilcal" for (Wil)liam in (Cal)ifornia, live near San Diego ( Surf City USA )
19:09:36 <wilcal> First official College computer class in Sept 1964, Computer Engineer 1968
19:09:40 <hviaene> Herman Dutch speaking Belgian
19:10:04 <kekePower> I've seen all of you on dev and qa mailinglists :-)
19:10:08 <kekePower> Nice to chat live
19:10:13 <rindolf> kekePower: yes
19:10:34 <kekePower> Poor familiy having to listen to my IBM Type M keyboard
19:10:50 <wilcal> click click click click
19:11:09 <kekePower> It's so damn loud in the silience of the evening
19:12:00 <kekePower> but I love it. It's the best keyboard I've ever had
19:12:01 <wilcal> You should try an IBM card punch machine
19:12:23 <wilcal> That's a serious input device
19:12:30 <kekePower> wilcal: Yeah, I'll just put it under the table and I'm set :)
19:12:58 <wilcal> you sit in it not next to it
19:13:07 <lewyssmith> Updates now, Bill?
19:13:07 <kekePower> hehe
19:13:30 <wilcal> #topic Testing Updates
19:13:40 <wilcal> So we're get'n back into it
19:13:56 <kekePower> Thanks for the prompt update on Terminology. Also thanks to billybob for fixing the bug once he figured out the problem
19:14:05 <wilcal> I was chug'n along nicely then my network went down hard
19:14:24 <lewyssmith> Things have got *much* better - we are back in the driving seat. So many people have muscled in.
19:14:56 <wilcal> They are much better
19:15:18 <lewyssmith> I ususally manage 1 or more a dya, and have to push several more.
19:15:25 <wilcal> I try something almost every day even though you may not see me on one of the bugs
19:15:43 <lewyssmith> I am knackered - can hardly see straight.
19:15:58 <kekePower> I'll be getting more free time next week. Maybe I can give a hand in packaging and testing
19:16:09 <wilcal> I see M5.1 cacti is back open so that should go through
19:16:16 <rindolf> kekePower: that will be great
19:16:22 <wilcal> many thanks in advance
19:16:41 <tarazed_> lewys: above and beyond...
19:16:47 <lewyssmith> kekePower, Do let us know if you a serious; we really need more hands to spare the small hard core.
19:16:57 <wilcal> sometimes some of those things are career builders and in that case we make sure they update without errors
19:17:18 <lewyssmith> tarazed_, Oh hollo, Len; sorry, did not notice you arrive.
19:17:29 <kekePower> I am serious. My son will start kindergarten next week and my free time will be between 8:00-16:00 CET
19:17:35 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21435
19:17:35 <tarazed_> Hi guys
19:17:36 <[mbot> [ 21435 – apache-commons-email new security issue CVE-2017-9801 ]
19:17:43 <wilcal> I think is a example of that
19:17:44 <rindolf> tarazed_: hi
19:17:54 <wilcal> hi taraz
19:18:03 <lewyssmith> kekePower, Can I send you an e-mail to help you get started?
19:18:50 <wilcal> I can get M5.1 wireshark pretty quickly
19:19:16 <kekePower> I've also translated a few strings on Tx
19:19:24 <wilcal> that thing takes a couple hours because of the large db it has to download from a slow server
19:19:25 <kekePower> into Norwegian Bokmål
19:19:47 <marja> kekePower: thanks for the translations :-) (and for your willingness to help QA, too)
19:19:59 <kekePower> hi marja :-)
19:20:02 <lewyssmith> marja! Welcome back.
19:20:13 <wilcal> hi marja
19:20:14 <marja> thanks
19:20:21 <marja> hi all
19:20:39 <tarazed_> Hi marja
19:20:58 <kekePower> was wondering if anybody could look into https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21594
19:21:00 <[mbot> [ 21594 – Update request: Kodi 17.4 ]
19:21:11 <kekePower> or should I give it a go based on the 17.3 spec?
19:21:31 <tarazed_> And welcome kekePower - I studied norsk 50 years ago but cannot remember more than three words now.
19:21:54 <kekePower> tarazed_: yeah, a lot gets lost over the years
19:21:56 <wilcal> What's in M6 now
19:22:13 <rindolf> marja: hi
19:22:19 <lewyssmith> kekePower, Stig, I do not see kodi in the list of updates to test.
19:22:22 <rindolf> marja: sup?
19:22:23 <marja> kekePower: anssi is the maintainer, he's in #mageia-dev atm (well, probably afk)
19:22:50 <kekePower> marja: I guess he'll look into it when time permits
19:23:01 <lewyssmith> Just so.
19:23:02 <wilcal> I do all my kody OSMC stuff on my Raspberry pi's
19:23:03 <marja> rindolf: luring here
19:23:08 <marja> kekePower: yeah
19:23:21 <kekePower> I just compile Kodi on my own, so I've already updated
19:23:31 <wilcal> nice
19:23:49 <lewyssmith> We haver no offers yet for Samba....
19:24:02 <lewyssmith> Hello Brrian.
19:24:09 <brian__> Hi Lewys
19:24:10 <wilcal> Samba thing I use NFS
19:24:21 <wilcal> never have been interested in Samba
19:24:30 <kekePower> I too use NFS. Used Samba 10+ years ago
19:24:38 <brian__> ah Samba - I mix win and linux in my home/work
19:24:41 <lewyssmith> I imagine it needs a networked Windows box.
19:24:44 <kekePower> login domain and everything :-)
19:25:04 <wilcal> Ya I think that's where best usage is. Windows is not spoken here
19:25:14 <hviaene> No, you can run samba on a pure mageia network
19:25:25 <lewyssmith> brian__, Great! Can you try it? M6/21482.
19:25:30 <brian__> true and other flavors of Lin
19:25:38 <brian__> I did, left a note on Samba.
19:25:42 <wilcal> Can you mix samba and nfs on the same ethernet network?
19:25:48 <hviaene> Yes
19:25:49 <brian__> yes
19:25:51 <kekePower> wilcal: Sure
19:26:13 <wilcal> Maybe that's something to tinker with on a Vbox network
19:26:26 <kekePower> You can share NFS shares over Samba too if you want
19:26:34 <brian__> Samba itself is working, but Samba 4 changed some of the parameters.  Our utilities are still using the old parameters
19:26:37 <hviaene> But I fear trying to put samba server on my 32-bitter will choke it
19:26:55 <wilcal> More overhead on Samba then NFS?
19:27:06 <kekePower> hviaene: No need to fear unless you have very little memory
19:27:14 <brian__> it isn't bad - I tested it/ran it on 1 GB memory machine 32-bit MGA6 with Mate
19:27:22 <hviaene> OOOOOolllllld laptop
19:27:44 <kekePower> wilcal: The SMB protocol is very chatty compared to NFS
19:27:46 <hviaene> Oh, then I could give it a go
19:27:49 <lewyssmith> brian__, Just seen you note; needs head scratching.
19:27:55 <brian__> I haven't assessed the memory footprint, but it ran fine on HP-UX boxes with little memory
19:28:21 <brian__> yes - I think I may approve, this is a security fix for existing Samba 4
19:28:32 <wilcal> please
19:28:38 <kekePower> just don't try to compile a modern kernel on a 486DX unless you have a few hours to spare
19:28:41 <brian__> then file a new issue for our utilities not matching up
19:28:53 <brian__> :keke  ROFL
19:28:55 <lewyssmith> But it did ot work out-of the-box, if I understood things.
19:29:09 <brian__> Not through our front-end utilities
19:29:28 <brian__> it took a tweak to the /etc/samba/smb.conf file
19:29:44 <lewyssmith> I do not know whether we can push it like that.
19:29:54 <kekePower> I've been thinking about looking into updating cgit
19:29:56 <brian__> but that's not the patch, that's Samba 4.  I guess I didn't try it in cauldron
19:30:06 <kekePower> the one in MGS6 is way too old
19:30:11 <kekePower> MGA6
19:30:25 <lewyssmith> WHAT? Samba itself?
19:30:30 <hviaene> Cann't remember if I used MCC or webmin to set it up om my "production" desktop
19:30:58 <kekePower> hviaene: I've always used vim to set up samba :-)
19:31:12 <hviaene> Too lazy for that
19:31:28 <kekePower> yeah, I guess the tools are better these days
19:31:35 <hviaene> I didn't find swat anymore
19:31:37 <brian__> it is Samba 4
19:33:00 <wilcal> Anything on that list needing special attention
19:33:13 <wilcal> http://madb.mageia.org/tools/updates
19:33:16 <[mbot> [ Mageia App Db - Current Update candidates ]
19:33:26 <brian__> I guess we are Samba 4.6 and the samba.org is going to 4.7.  We're clsoe
19:33:34 <lewyssmith> I keep an eye on it, & bore everyone with pleading posts.
19:33:39 <wilcal> Just the time to do them
19:34:14 <brian__> thanks Lewys
19:34:33 <brian__> I'll be filing a new bug for the MGA Samba config issue
19:34:45 <brian__> I'll do another build and confirm the config issue
19:35:01 <lewyssmith> I am still doubtful about pushing the update if it causes a problem.
19:35:24 <brian__> I don't think it does per se.  an Update probably wouldn't blitz the smb.conf
19:35:36 <brian__> I'll give that a try
19:35:48 <lewyssmith> Ah. The problem is from M6 install?
19:36:03 <wilcal> On to Anything Else?
19:36:18 <brian__> yup - has to do with using network sharing util
19:36:22 <wilcal> Hi Ben
19:36:23 <lewyssmith> Welcom Ben.
19:36:28 <brian__> Ben!
19:36:43 <lewyssmith> I have a question...
19:36:45 <Benmc> QA: good morning
19:36:55 <wilcal> go for it lewys
19:37:41 <lewyssmith> I have terrible trouble getting Bugzilla to show any results fro custom searches. I sometimes want to search old bugs which I helped with, and can never find them.
19:38:18 <lewyssmith> I could not even get a result from 'cacti' on FIXED RESOLVED, or no other keywords.
19:38:26 <brian__> hmm - I have to remember to select closed
19:38:50 <wilcal> bugzilla the imperfect tool
19:39:01 <lewyssmith> The 'bugzilla' link in the updates list works fine. Is this just me?
19:39:22 <lewyssmith> I like Bugzilla normally, very much.
19:39:33 <tarazed_> Prpbably not.  I have had trouble occasionally.
19:39:39 <brian__> no probably not you, but I've been able to find stuff, but I do have to mess with it
19:39:40 <hviaene> No, I have the same impression
19:40:00 <lewyssmith> I wil try now...
19:40:13 <brian__> do choose closed
19:40:17 <brian__> for status
19:40:45 <brian__> also - did you already talk about rt?  16665
19:41:29 <lewyssmith> Herman did that, I will try it also.
19:42:00 <brian__> ok - I was going to suggest his was enough.  Thus I didn't pursue further
19:42:18 <wilcal> I've never worked on rt
19:42:46 <brian__> me either, when I saw his test, I went after samba
19:42:47 <lewyssmith> brian__, I may say the same, & push it!
19:43:06 <hviaene> You miss the fun!!!!
19:43:23 <brian__> :hviaene - I'm having enough already
19:43:29 <brian__> ;D
19:44:22 <lewyssmith> tarazed_, Len, can you look at & give your view on the Samba bug?
19:44:37 <lewyssmith> On the bug, not here & now. Please.
19:44:48 <tarazed_> OK boss.
19:44:58 <lewyssmith> That is *you*!
19:45:04 <wilcal> On too.......
19:45:17 <wilcal> #topic Anything else?
19:45:42 <lewyssmith> Sorry - I thought we were already there!
19:45:48 <kekePower> Any thoughts on figuring out how to make MGA boot a little faster?
19:45:50 <wilcal> I'm really get'n back into things will go after wireshark
19:45:56 <wilcal> now we're officially there
19:46:07 <rindolf> kekePower: hi
19:46:14 <wilcal> that's a good question keke
19:46:21 <wilcal> how fast is fast?
19:46:22 <rindolf> kekePower: there is a howto on the systemd site
19:46:24 <wilcal> under a minute
19:46:48 <kekePower> I tried OpenELEC and that was fast
19:46:58 <kekePower> but that's very specialized, I know
19:47:04 <lewyssmith> A bit depends on the display manager: SDDM is slower, I think.
19:47:05 <tarazed_> Depends on your hardware innit?
19:47:14 <wilcal> SSD makes things to quicker
19:47:25 <brian__> :kekePower - are you talking a very long wait (like a minute)?
19:47:44 <lewyssmith> That 'very long'?
19:47:50 <kekePower> I have filed a bug report on LSB hotplugged network taking a lot of time
19:47:53 <wilcal> when I run my i7 system on an fast SSD i can get 1 minute or so boot times
19:48:01 <brian__> the reason I ask is I've run into cases where an install maps another drive
19:48:04 <kekePower> doesn't happen every time, but happens
19:48:22 <brian__> in your permanent storage, then it times out and moves on.  Usually like 90 seconds
19:48:34 <kekePower> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21055
19:48:36 <[mbot> [ 21055 – LSB: "Waiting for hotplugged network to be up" spends over 1 minute during boot ]
19:48:54 <wilcal> network boot, very brave
19:49:15 <kekePower> I've disabled the second network port by putting ON_BOOT=no
19:49:23 <brian__> yeah - check your fixed drives
19:49:26 <brian__> mappings
19:49:32 <tarazed_> Things slow down after kernel install on nvidia
19:49:49 <tarazed_> But you know that
19:50:28 <kekePower> anyway, my hw is kind of old, but fast enough for daily use
19:50:51 <kekePower> Phenom II x4 965, 16GB ram, 10k spinning disk
19:51:03 <brian__> LOL - faster than mine
19:51:34 <kekePower> brian__: :-)
19:51:43 <brian__> I guessing you need to check fdsk mappings
19:52:00 <kekePower> ok. I'll look into it
19:52:13 <kekePower> (once I figure out how to)
19:52:26 <brian__> I bet you'll find it in there.  I had the same issue
19:53:11 <wilcal> Anything else?
19:53:33 <wilcal> Not from me
19:53:35 <hviaene> Not from me
19:53:38 <lewyssmith> Only to thank the faihtful who came.
19:53:40 <kekePower> I'm good
19:53:59 <wilcal> Time for count down
19:54:01 <wilcal> T-5
19:54:06 <lewyssmith> Goodbye everyone. And thanks to Bill as usual.
19:54:07 <kekePower> thanks for a great chat
19:54:08 <wilcal> T-4
19:54:10 <wilcal> bye all
19:54:12 <hviaene> G'night all
19:54:13 <kekePower> have a good day/evening/night
19:54:13 <wilcal> T-3
19:54:18 <wilcal> T-2
19:54:23 <wilcal> T-1
19:54:27 <tarazed_> good night all
19:54:28 <wilcal> #endmeeting