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19:03:58 <wilcal> kick this thing off
19:04:15 <wilcal> #chair lewyssmith
19:04:15 <Inigo_Montoya`> Current chairs: lewyssmith wilcal
19:04:26 <wilcal> as always i may go off line at anytime
19:04:37 <wilcal> #topic Who's new?
19:04:43 <wilcal> Anyone new today?
19:05:16 <wilcal> I don't think so. We're still in Holiday Season
19:05:19 <tarazed> Doubt it
19:05:30 <lewyssmith> Fewer people than normal.
19:05:49 <wilcal> #topic CUPS
19:06:07 <wilcal> I wanted this as a seperate subject as a heads up
19:06:07 <tarazed> Five people testing regularly maybe.
19:06:23 <lewyssmith> I think this is your private problem, Bill. Everybody else reported things OK.
19:06:35 <wilcal> There was an update to CUPS a couple weeks ago that changed I think the way maybe it works
19:06:48 <wilcal> Only one other person seeing the problem if it is one
19:07:04 <tarazed> Yeah.  I think we should check it out.
19:07:17 <wilcal> Simply making the printer the system wide default corrected the issue
19:07:34 <wilcal> Probably not something that needs a bug filed for it now
19:07:40 <wilcal> just be aware it's there
19:07:48 <tarazed> If that was the main issue then I don't think it is new.
19:08:02 <wilcal> Onward then
19:08:04 <wilcal> #topic Testing Updates
19:08:21 <wilcal> So I'm kinda back to touching one bug 6-days a week
19:08:23 <[mbot> Bug: ['test Field', 'RESOLVED', 'Ahmad Samir'] https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6
19:08:41 <tarazed> Thanks wilcal for getting augeas off the list - it gave me the hump
19:09:12 <wilcal> Ya I'll go through all three of the remaining ones there just to make sure it updates ok
19:09:22 <lewyssmith> augeas: That impressed me too.
19:09:22 <tarazed> All the easy ones have gone so it will be slow.
19:09:51 <lewyssmith> We are doing better than one might suppose, whittling them down - with a lot of hard work.
19:09:58 <tarazed> Hi TJ. Howzitgoan?
19:09:59 <wilcal> Also if 64-bit is ok and 32 updates ok then it should be a candidate for pushing on
19:10:19 <tjandrews> Doing OK.
19:10:26 <wilcal> No career building bugs
19:10:31 <lewyssmith> We only need one OK for most updates. Provisionally. I will post about that.
19:10:43 <wilcal> Sounds like a plan
19:11:09 <lewyssmith> tjandrews, Welcome back.
19:11:13 <wilcal> there's one remaining kernel bug that I had a problem with and I'll circle around and try that one again
19:11:26 <lewyssmith> It should be real H/W.
19:11:38 <lewyssmith> hviaene, Welcome Herman.
19:11:44 <hviaene> Hi all
19:11:45 <tarazed> Evening herman.  You must have calluses
19:11:52 <wilcal> Ya I think your right lewys i'll test in on real hw
19:12:44 <hviaene> tarazed: I have e good keyboard
19:13:15 <tarazed> :-)
19:13:29 <lewyssmith> Can I let Thunderbird out with 1 OK per release, different architectures? I think so.
19:13:42 <wilcal> Rather then going through the whole list just do what you can do and note that in the bug
19:13:49 <wilcal> Y
19:14:05 <tjandrews> In case I missed the CUPS discussion, no problems here. I just did some image printing with Gimp a couple of days ago, and it was fine.
19:14:30 <wilcal> I'm not sure what's going on there tj just be aware of it
19:14:32 <hviaene> CUPS is fine here as well
19:14:42 <tarazed> The problem seems to be the default
19:14:42 <lewyssmith> Will do. It is encouraging how much time I have to give to offloading tested updates.
19:14:53 <tjandrews> Two printers here. Maybe that makes a difference.
19:15:00 <wilcal> The default may not work for you
19:15:17 <tjandrews> It's the one I used.
19:15:23 <wilcal> I tend to move the same printer from one system to another and maybe that confused it
19:15:39 <hviaene> I have only one, but have not seen the problem of the default
19:16:15 <tarazed> wilcal: even though yours is wireless?
19:16:24 <lewyssmith> My printer is out of action, so I cannot comment here.
19:16:31 <wilcal> Mine is a USB connection
19:16:55 <tarazed> That model should have wifi
19:16:55 <wilcal> This was not an issue in M5
19:17:21 <br_ian> Hellow
19:17:27 <hviaene> I can imagine that if you start the PC and the printer is not connecrted at all, the default gets reset.
19:17:35 <tarazed> morning Brian - your underscore has slipped
19:17:44 <br_ian> LOL - at coffee shop
19:18:30 <wilcal> People look at you weird when they see your not using Windows or Mac
19:19:01 <wilcal> So anything specific on that list that we need to talk about?
19:19:22 <tarazed> Can't think of anything.
19:19:27 <br_ian> RC - that looks like a career
19:19:33 <br_ian> anybody done that one before
19:19:41 <wilcal> Just tinker with what you can
19:19:56 <br_ian> ok - I'll see what I can make happen
19:20:24 <tarazed> brian: where is RC?
19:20:27 <wilcal> maria db is in there and I can do that one too
19:20:59 <lewyssmith> Ah! I have a question about MariaDB.
19:21:06 <br_ian> my apologies - RT
19:21:07 <wilcal> go for it
19:21:08 <br_ian> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16665
19:21:10 <[mbot> [ 16665 – rt new security issue CVE-2015-5475, missing update for several older issues ]
19:21:15 <hviaene> What do you mean RC????
19:21:34 <br_ian> sorry my old memory substituted C for t
19:21:50 <lewyssmith> I need to get mariaDB working for Cacti. I cannot configure it.
19:22:27 <lewyssmith> Bill once suggested $ mysqladmin root password but that is baulking. Perhaps a post?
19:22:50 <wilcal> i used to be good at DB's but now I can only just test to make sure mariadb is running
19:23:10 <lewyssmith> They are OK once set up.
19:23:33 <hviaene> it is something like mysql_secure??????
19:23:34 <wilcal> ya setting up maria db is a step for step process
19:23:44 <wilcal> I'll post what I do in the bug
19:24:07 <hviaene> mysqladmin does not get it anymore
19:24:42 <hviaene> I have it in one of the recent updates I OK'd
19:24:42 <tarazed> brian: you could be right.  Cannot see any PoC either.
19:25:20 <hviaene> and I've done cacati before
19:25:26 <hviaene> cacti
19:25:53 <br_ian> I'll bang around on it.
19:26:04 <br_ian> looks like I'll hit postgresql later 21505
19:26:25 <lewyssmith> hviaene, I will do cacti 64-bit; have done it before also.
19:26:49 <tarazed> I think we all have.
19:26:51 <lewyssmith> Postgress is complicated by the several versions invloved.
19:27:29 <br_ian> ugh 9.3, 9.4, 9.6
19:27:43 <lewyssmith> Exactly.
19:28:00 <br_ian> I guess I'll be building VM's for 64-bit
19:28:47 <wilcal_> I'm back
19:28:48 <lewyssmith> I hope not with 32-bit host; otherwise forget.
19:29:22 <lewyssmith> (to br_ian )
19:29:25 <br_ian> I've got both thankfully
19:29:48 <br_ian> so I'll do it on my 64 host.  32-bit is on my laptop when traveling
19:29:59 <br_ian> or out and about like ow
19:30:04 <br_ian> now
19:30:41 <tarazed> On a positive note we seem to have made a slight dent in the List.
19:30:59 <lewyssmith> Doing brilliantly, Len.
19:31:19 <lewyssmith> BTW augeas needs 1 Mageia 6 test.
19:31:21 <tarazed> Yeah - positive thinking
19:31:35 <wilcal_> gotta move to the other computer brb
19:33:05 <wilcal> Back again
19:33:26 <tjandrews> I really should try to do more updates testing, but this time of year is very difficult for me. Little free time.
19:33:40 <br_ian> <wilcal> best not to irc while surfing.  ;-)
19:33:40 <tarazed> How do you keep your cool wilcal?
19:33:54 <wilcal> Too many computers around here
19:33:58 <br_ian> surving pacific
19:34:01 <br_ian> surfing
19:34:04 <wilcal> I've got a finiky laptop
19:34:21 <br_ian> he's probably out on a long board typing
19:34:29 <wilcal> :-)
19:34:37 <wilcal> Surf is not up today
19:34:53 <tarazed> TJ: we know your situation and are grateful for your sage advice on so may occasions.
19:35:10 <lewyssmith> Yes; keep it for winter.
19:35:31 <tarazed> tj: retirement is not an option for a farmer.
19:35:31 <br_ian> same here, pretty busy.  But, I'll bang on some things as I get soem time
19:35:40 <wilcal> So anything else on the list of updates to test other then there's lots to test
19:35:50 <wilcal> Sounds like a plan
19:36:12 <wilcal> So we can move on too
19:36:15 <wilcal> #topic Anything Else?
19:36:23 <br_ian> nope
19:36:38 <wilcal> I don't have anything
19:36:39 <tarazed> forgotten it whatever it was
19:37:10 <wilcal> Anything else lewys?
19:37:24 <lewyssmith> Just a repeat of the fabulous work the team is doing in the current updates flood.
19:37:37 <wilcal> We continue to poke along
19:37:38 <hviaene> Question
19:37:54 <wilcal> go for it
19:38:04 <lewyssmith> [bated breath]
19:38:12 <hviaene> I can boot my 32-bit laptop either in M5 or M6
19:38:21 <wilcal> ok
19:38:25 <hviaene> Priority for updates?
19:38:33 <wilcal> boy that's an old laptop
19:38:41 <hviaene> It is
19:38:49 <lewyssmith> Equal in my view. I do both as & when.
19:38:55 <br_ian> I think folks have said m7 hviaene
19:39:01 <br_ian> lol m6
19:39:11 <tarazed> Good question.  maybe err on the side of mga5 because iit is approaching EOL
19:39:28 <hviaene> Pardon??
19:39:30 <wilcal> M6 MATE or Xfce should run ok
19:39:46 <hviaene> English is not my mother tongue
19:40:04 <lewyssmith> If one does an update for one release that is also in the other, it should be simpler to do the other release as well.
19:40:44 <lewyssmith> hviaene, End of life?
19:40:47 <tarazed> Yes, it usually is
19:41:06 <hviaene> tarazed : err on the side ?????
19:41:16 <lewyssmith> Prefer.
19:41:20 <tarazed> Sorry herman   Yes less than three months to go.
19:41:21 <wilcal> We're about 70 days from M5 EOL
19:41:30 <wilcal> End Oct
19:41:32 <tjandrews> Gotta go, guys. Break time is over.
19:41:38 <wilcal> bye tj
19:41:41 <br_ian> so focus on Mageia 6
19:42:17 <wilcal> Anything else
19:42:26 <lewyssmith> Not here.
19:42:30 <wilcal> I'm done
19:42:31 <tarazed> Sorry again herman.  err = make an error or prefer.
19:42:45 <wilcal> Count down time
19:42:46 <hviaene> Tx
19:42:46 <tarazed> onthe side = towards
19:42:49 <wilcal> T-5
19:42:58 <wilcal> T-4
19:43:06 <tarazed> Bya all
19:43:08 <wilcal> T-3
19:43:10 <wilcal> bye all
19:43:11 <lewyssmith> Thanks to Bill for IRC chairing; goodbye everyone.
19:43:15 <wilcal> T-2
19:43:17 <hviaene> G'night
19:43:19 <wilcal> T-1
19:43:24 <wilcal> #endmeeting