19:01:26 <DavidWHodgins> #startmeeting 19:01:26 <Inigo_Montoya`> Meeting started Thu Apr 13 19:01:26 2017 UTC. The chair is DavidWHodgins. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:01:26 <Inigo_Montoya`> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 19:01:43 <DavidWHodgins> #chair wilcal lewyssmith tarazed 19:01:43 <Inigo_Montoya`> Current chairs: DavidWHodgins lewyssmith tarazed wilcal 19:01:49 <tarazed> Evening folks 19:01:59 <DavidWHodgins> Welcome to another qa team irc meeting everyone 19:02:00 <krisNL> hi tarazed 19:02:04 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Who's new? - If you are then come and say hello. 19:02:23 <DavidWHodgins> So, anyone here who hasn't been to a qa team irc meeting before? 19:02:58 <DavidWHodgins> Doesn't look like it. 19:03:01 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Mageia 6 - Testing M6 19:03:34 <wilcal> Again just before this meeting I executed, successfully a net install of M6, x86_64, Plasma Vbox Client 19:03:38 <krisNL> i am still testing the live xfce 19:03:41 <lewyssmith> From here it looks good, just trivial belemishes. 19:03:47 <DavidWHodgins> Other then the nvme problem and problems getting to a terminal, reported on the ml, any other severe probelems found? 19:04:12 <wilcal> Still the little green windows during a Vbox install 19:04:13 <tarazed> Nothing really severe - just annoyances 19:04:18 <krisNL> no severe bug, just s small one, will let martin know] 19:04:39 <wilcal> nothing that prevents the install of a working desktop 19:04:42 <lewyssmith> krisNL, Is it for him, or a bug? 19:04:47 <wilcal> all the lives install just fine Vbox 19:04:56 <krisNL> the netinstall bug is really annoying 19:04:56 <DavidWHodgins> I've done an rc x86_64 install on my system, that I will be using as my primary system shortly. Just have to set up customized dns etc., first 19:05:18 <DavidWHodgins> krisNL: Remind me. Which netinstall bug? 19:05:22 <tarazed> Hi Brian 19:05:22 <brian_> hi All 19:05:33 <lewyssmith> brian_, Welcome. 19:05:38 <hviaene> classics OK, but discovered (non-blocking bug in MCC) 19:05:47 <wilcal> My primary Vbox host has been M6, x86_64, Plasma for quite some time now 19:05:53 <krisNL> lewyssmith: just a small glitch, comes from the special mount/not mount dbus blah in xfce 19:06:52 <krisNL> DavidWHodgins: bugzilla down, yhe install doesn;t complete, a evere graphical distortion 19:06:54 <DavidWHodgins> With bugzilla down, it's hard for anyone to report any problems they are finding 19:06:59 <tarazed> Is it just Plasma that is affected by the missing glibc problem during install? 19:07:03 <wilcal> Do we now start thinking about things that can be fixed after release? 19:07:42 <DavidWHodgins> Once bugs is back up, yes, we have to id bugs that can be fixed after release, and those that must be fixed before release 19:07:44 <lewyssmith> tarazed, Len, I see this as a stopper (for upgrades) 19:07:46 <brian_> sounds like we are so close. But if missing glibc for plasma. That would mean another group 19:07:57 <wilcal> we are pretty close I think 19:08:27 <tarazed> Yes - it is upgrades. Fell off the planet for a couple of days. 19:08:43 <DavidWHodgins> That was due to the mirrors problem, I think 19:09:16 <DavidWHodgins> i.e. the mirrors.mageia.org not responding, which has been fixed now. 19:09:28 <wilcal> I have never been really successful with ver to ver upgrades Mandrake ver -> Mandriva ver -> Mageia ver 19:09:30 <tarazed> OK. 19:10:07 <wilcal> tried an M5 -> M6 Vbos upgrade this week and that didn't go very well 19:10:15 <DavidWHodgins> My current primary host started as Mageia 3 (which was current when I bought the system), and has been upgraded since then. 19:10:50 <wilcal> Do you have a fairly busy system David? Lots of apps? 19:10:58 <DavidWHodgins> Yes. 19:11:27 <DavidWHodgins> rpm -qa|wc -l reports 5251 packages currently 19:11:36 <krisNL> DavidWHodgins: which DE? 19:11:51 <DavidWHodgins> All of them, with kde as primary use 19:12:04 <wilcal> M5 -> M6 upgrade here involved over 2200 packages 19:12:26 <lewyssmith> wilcal, -8 Bill, what was the problem? 19:12:46 <brian_> I prior classic release I did a couple of upgrades on phsycial hardware with luck 19:12:54 <wilcal> I get to a working Plasma desktop but that is all screwed up 19:13:05 <brian_> vbox - had to set nomodeset to work 19:13:17 <DavidWHodgins> #info Everyone please try to test upgrading, as much as possible. For any problems found, we need to identify which ones can be fixed after release, and which must be fixed before release. 19:13:31 <brian_> k 19:13:33 <krisNL> I've tested M5 to M6 upgrade with changing sources, with a heavy load of 3rd party packages ... 19:13:39 <wilcal> I tried deleting the config directories and reboot but that only made things worse 19:13:53 <brian_> acts like it is looping out wilcal? 19:13:58 <wilcal> yup 19:14:09 <brian_> same thing. nomodeset 19:14:27 <DavidWHodgins> Try creating a new user. There is little that an upgrade can do about modifying config files in /home. Those we have to id and document in the wiki, when it's back. 19:14:27 <wilcal> I've always started from a blank drive when I go from version to next version 19:14:29 <brian_> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20455 19:15:21 <brian_> try booting with that setting, you might get surprised 19:15:59 <DavidWHodgins> Ah. That ones about removing nomodeset from the kernel options 19:17:20 <DavidWHodgins> Ok, moving on 19:17:24 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Testing updates - Bugzilla is still down. 19:17:57 <DavidWHodgins> With bugzilla down, even if we do manage to test any updates, they can not be pushed from updates testing to updates 19:18:35 <wilcal> any idea on a completion time? 19:18:43 <DavidWHodgins> We have to be patient, and give the sysadmins time to fix things properly. Adding new procedures to work around the current problems rather than fixing them would be a bad idea 19:18:57 <lewyssmith> Agree. 19:19:00 <DavidWHodgins> wilcal: Not really. It's like Mageia releases. When it's ready. 19:19:04 <wilcal> Let'em make it right 19:19:44 <wilcal> about how many sysadmin's are working on this? 19:19:52 <DavidWHodgins> So, looks like it's going to be a record short meeting. :-) 19:19:54 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Anything else? 19:20:03 <lewyssmith> Not here. 19:20:04 <DavidWHodgins> I have nothing else here 19:20:08 <krisNL> It feels like M is a rolling release now, and pretty stable 19:20:13 <tarazed> No, nothing 19:20:17 <wilcal> not from me. I'm pretty comfortable with my M6 installs here 19:20:20 <DavidWHodgins> krisNL: :-) 19:20:27 <DavidWHodgins> Ok, countdown time then. 19:20:30 <DavidWHodgins> t - 5 19:20:32 <DavidWHodgins> 4 19:20:35 <wilcal> bye all 19:20:36 <DavidWHodgins> 3 19:20:38 <DavidWHodgins> 2 19:20:41 <DavidWHodgins> 1 19:20:45 <tarazed> Bye, folks 19:20:47 <DavidWHodgins> Thanks for coming everyone 19:20:50 <lewyssmith> Thanks for chairing, Dave; and to others who came. 19:20:57 <DavidWHodgins> #endmeeting