19:01:26 <DavidWHodgins> #startmeeting
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19:01:43 <DavidWHodgins> #chair wilcal lewyssmith tarazed
19:01:43 <Inigo_Montoya`> Current chairs: DavidWHodgins lewyssmith tarazed wilcal
19:01:49 <tarazed> Evening folks
19:01:59 <DavidWHodgins> Welcome to another qa team irc meeting everyone
19:02:00 <krisNL> hi tarazed
19:02:04 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Who's new? - If you are then come and say hello.
19:02:23 <DavidWHodgins> So, anyone here who hasn't been to a qa team irc meeting before?
19:02:58 <DavidWHodgins> Doesn't look like it.
19:03:01 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Mageia 6 - Testing M6
19:03:34 <wilcal> Again just before this meeting I executed, successfully a net install of M6, x86_64, Plasma Vbox Client
19:03:38 <krisNL> i am still testing the live xfce
19:03:41 <lewyssmith> From here it looks good, just trivial belemishes.
19:03:47 <DavidWHodgins> Other then the nvme problem and problems getting to a terminal, reported on the ml, any other severe probelems found?
19:04:12 <wilcal> Still the little green windows during a Vbox install
19:04:13 <tarazed> Nothing really severe - just annoyances
19:04:18 <krisNL> no severe bug, just s small one, will let martin know]
19:04:39 <wilcal> nothing that prevents the install of a working desktop
19:04:42 <lewyssmith> krisNL, Is it for him, or a bug?
19:04:47 <wilcal> all the lives install just fine Vbox
19:04:56 <krisNL> the netinstall bug is really annoying
19:04:56 <DavidWHodgins> I've done an rc x86_64 install on my system, that I will be using as my primary system shortly. Just have to set up customized dns etc., first
19:05:18 <DavidWHodgins> krisNL: Remind me. Which netinstall bug?
19:05:22 <tarazed> Hi Brian
19:05:22 <brian_> hi All
19:05:33 <lewyssmith> brian_, Welcome.
19:05:38 <hviaene> classics OK, but discovered (non-blocking bug in MCC)
19:05:47 <wilcal> My primary Vbox host has been M6, x86_64, Plasma for quite some time now
19:05:53 <krisNL> lewyssmith: just a small glitch, comes from the special mount/not mount dbus blah in xfce
19:06:52 <krisNL> DavidWHodgins: bugzilla down, yhe install doesn;t complete, a evere graphical distortion
19:06:54 <DavidWHodgins> With bugzilla down, it's hard for anyone to report any problems they are finding
19:06:59 <tarazed> Is it just Plasma that is affected by the missing glibc problem during install?
19:07:03 <wilcal> Do we now start thinking about things that can be fixed after release?
19:07:42 <DavidWHodgins> Once bugs is back up, yes, we have to id bugs that can be fixed after release, and those that must be fixed before release
19:07:44 <lewyssmith> tarazed, Len, I see this as a stopper (for upgrades)
19:07:46 <brian_> sounds like we are so close.  But if missing glibc for plasma.  That would mean another group
19:07:57 <wilcal> we are pretty close I think
19:08:27 <tarazed> Yes - it is upgrades.  Fell off the planet for a couple of days.
19:08:43 <DavidWHodgins> That was due to the mirrors problem, I think
19:09:16 <DavidWHodgins> i.e. the mirrors.mageia.org not responding, which has been fixed now.
19:09:28 <wilcal> I have never been really successful with ver to ver upgrades Mandrake ver -> Mandriva ver -> Mageia ver
19:09:30 <tarazed> OK.
19:10:07 <wilcal> tried an M5 -> M6 Vbos upgrade this week and that didn't go very well
19:10:15 <DavidWHodgins> My current primary host started as Mageia 3 (which was current when I bought the system), and has been upgraded since then.
19:10:50 <wilcal> Do you have a fairly busy system David? Lots of apps?
19:10:58 <DavidWHodgins> Yes.
19:11:27 <DavidWHodgins> rpm -qa|wc -l reports 5251 packages currently
19:11:36 <krisNL> DavidWHodgins: which DE?
19:11:51 <DavidWHodgins> All of them, with kde as primary use
19:12:04 <wilcal> M5 -> M6 upgrade here involved over 2200 packages
19:12:26 <lewyssmith> wilcal, -8 Bill, what was the problem?
19:12:46 <brian_> I prior classic release I did a couple of upgrades on phsycial hardware with luck
19:12:54 <wilcal> I get to a working Plasma desktop but that is all screwed up
19:13:05 <brian_> vbox - had to set nomodeset to work
19:13:17 <DavidWHodgins> #info Everyone please try to test upgrading, as much as possible. For any problems found, we need to identify which ones can be fixed after release, and which must be fixed before release.
19:13:31 <brian_> k
19:13:33 <krisNL> I've tested M5 to M6 upgrade with changing sources, with a heavy load of 3rd party packages ...
19:13:39 <wilcal> I tried deleting the config directories and reboot but that only made things worse
19:13:53 <brian_> acts like it is looping out wilcal?
19:13:58 <wilcal> yup
19:14:09 <brian_> same thing.  nomodeset
19:14:27 <DavidWHodgins> Try creating a new user. There is little that an upgrade can do about modifying config files in /home. Those we have to id and document in the wiki, when it's back.
19:14:27 <wilcal> I've always started from a blank drive when I go from version to next version
19:14:29 <brian_> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20455
19:15:21 <brian_> try booting with that setting, you might get surprised
19:15:59 <DavidWHodgins> Ah. That ones about removing nomodeset from the kernel options
19:17:20 <DavidWHodgins> Ok, moving on
19:17:24 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Testing updates - Bugzilla is still down.
19:17:57 <DavidWHodgins> With bugzilla down, even if we do manage to test any updates, they can not be pushed from updates testing to updates
19:18:35 <wilcal> any idea on a completion time?
19:18:43 <DavidWHodgins> We have to be patient, and give the sysadmins time to fix things properly. Adding new procedures to work around the current problems rather than fixing them would be a bad idea
19:18:57 <lewyssmith> Agree.
19:19:00 <DavidWHodgins> wilcal: Not really. It's like Mageia releases. When it's ready.
19:19:04 <wilcal> Let'em make it right
19:19:44 <wilcal> about how many sysadmin's are working on this?
19:19:52 <DavidWHodgins> So, looks like it's going to be a record short meeting. :-)
19:19:54 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Anything else?
19:20:03 <lewyssmith> Not here.
19:20:04 <DavidWHodgins> I have nothing else here
19:20:08 <krisNL> It feels like M is a rolling release now, and pretty stable
19:20:13 <tarazed> No, nothing
19:20:17 <wilcal> not from me. I'm pretty comfortable with my M6 installs here
19:20:20 <DavidWHodgins> krisNL: :-)
19:20:27 <DavidWHodgins> Ok, countdown time then.
19:20:30 <DavidWHodgins> t - 5
19:20:32 <DavidWHodgins> 4
19:20:35 <wilcal> bye all
19:20:36 <DavidWHodgins> 3
19:20:38 <DavidWHodgins> 2
19:20:41 <DavidWHodgins> 1
19:20:45 <tarazed> Bye, folks
19:20:47 <DavidWHodgins> Thanks for coming everyone
19:20:50 <lewyssmith> Thanks for chairing, Dave; and to others who came.
19:20:57 <DavidWHodgins> #endmeeting