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20:05:46 <DavidWHodgins> #chair wilcal
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20:05:51 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Who's new? - If you are then come and say hello.
20:06:11 <DavidWHodgins> So, anyone here who hasn't been to a qa team irc meeting before?
20:06:35 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Mageia 6 - Testing the new sta2 isos
20:07:16 <wilcal> Ahhh yes. Created all three x86_64 Vbox clients this morning and have a Plasma real hardware cook'n as we speak
20:07:23 <DavidWHodgins> Everyone sync ok?
20:07:35 <tjandrews> All good here.
20:08:28 <DavidWHodgins> I did question changing the file names from sta2 to rc, and moving then from pretesting to regular directory, but decision was made to go as it is now
20:08:29 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20368
20:08:30 <[mbot> Bug 20368: normal, High, mageiatools, NEW , Net installation of Mageia 6 sta2 finished with a very small and double screen.
20:08:42 <DavidWHodgins> Yeah. I saw that too.
20:08:53 <wilcal> I'll know in a minute if it applies to a real hardware install
20:09:10 <DavidWHodgins> It's during package installation. Very hard to see which package is triggering it due to the speed of the scrolling
20:09:16 <tjandrews> Does it with an upgrade install in vbox, too.
20:09:32 <DavidWHodgins> It's x86_64 vb guests only as far as I know
20:10:08 <DavidWHodgins> Doesn't stop the install, just makes it very hard to read during the add user or summary parts
20:10:44 <wilcal> Ok it's only a Vbox problem
20:11:08 <DavidWHodgins> These iso images will not be released to the public, there only to help testing fixes in preparation for the eventual creation of the rc iso images
20:11:20 <wilcal> So for the most part for me the latest CI isos are pretty good
20:11:43 <DavidWHodgins> Same here. Not rc level yet, but getting close
20:12:02 <wilcal> When it's in the Plasma UI is really nice for me
20:12:29 <Bequimao> But there will be pretesting of rc isos, too?
20:12:32 <DavidWHodgins> I dislike change, for changes sake, but that's me. :-)
20:12:36 <tjandrews> Waiting for the next round. Martin may have the nvidia install thing licked.
20:12:58 <DavidWHodgins> Bequimao: Yes. Instructions for renaming the current iso image files will be included in the annoucment
20:13:00 <wilcal> the repo has gone through some big changes in the last week but my test installs have handled it
20:13:23 <DavidWHodgins> the announcement to the iso testers, that is.
20:13:31 <tjandrews> And nice... The three question marks disappeared after today's updates. If I had to guess, sddm.
20:13:45 <wilcal> should the little green boxes bug hold it up?
20:13:54 <brian__> I had a problem sync'ing fyi
20:13:54 <DavidWHodgins> For rc, yes
20:14:38 <wilcal> Ya you saw my message on the qa mailing list is there a way to mirror these on something else? ( out of Europe )
20:14:45 <wilcal> like mirrors.kernel.org
20:15:04 <DavidWHodgins> Not without making them public, I'm afraid
20:15:09 <hviaene> For my HW boxes, there si very little cahnge with previous sta2
20:15:19 <hviaene> change
20:15:25 <brian__> I might be able to let you try an option, once I get synch'd up this time
20:15:36 <wilcal> took over 48-hours to rsync these 2 isos
20:15:43 <brian__> I've got a server out in G-Cloud that I rsync to from MGA
20:16:02 <brian__> so you'd sync in the US-Central
20:16:04 <wilcal> is it your own server
20:16:10 <brian__> yup
20:16:12 <brian__> VM
20:16:34 <wilcal> that would be nice to try as best I can get in speed is about 56Kbaud kinda like dial up
20:16:50 <brian__> I'll ping you off-line
20:16:58 <DavidWHodgins> brian__: If you can, please keep it password protected, or the url only privately shared
20:17:13 <brian__> you gotta have an ssh key
20:17:27 <DavidWHodgins> We don't want non released iso images used in any reviews by journalists
20:17:35 <brian__> oh trust me it is very locked down
20:17:38 <tjandrews> Odd. I don't have that problem. Started the sync before going to bed, and it was all done by morning.
20:17:58 <DavidWHodgins> That's why we keep the iso images on rabbit, password protected, until they pass qa testing
20:18:12 <wilcal> when I rsync to mirrors.kernel.org it rarely takes more then 5-min
20:18:18 <Benmc> Hiya all
20:18:23 <wilcal> Hi Ben
20:18:36 <DavidWHodgins> Hi ben
20:18:39 <brian__> it's a single user, no sharing outside of SSH.  But if you are concerned I can remove it
20:18:49 <hviaene> I got the two ISO's synced in a little ove rtwo hours
20:19:04 <Benmc> same here
20:19:06 <hviaene> stupid fingers
20:19:14 <wilcal> message me to wilcal.int@gmail.com and we can take this off-line
20:19:15 <DavidWHodgins> brian__: That sounds fine. Just please only share the key with people on the qa iso testers list
20:19:49 <tjandrews> Mine might have been four, but then my speed is slow by today's broadband standards.
20:20:01 <wilcal> a secure states side version of this would be a good thing
20:20:25 <brian__> yeah - not a very gifted script, I had to write my own to sync as it requires Rsync ssh
20:20:33 <DavidWHodgins> wilcal: I'm wondering if the problems shown by http://internetplulse.keynote.com/ are the problem
20:20:34 <[mbot> [ freeshell.de | Free Shell Provider on Debian/GNU Linux ]
20:20:38 <wilcal> sometimes we need to test isos tested quickly
20:21:05 <DavidWHodgins> Seems cognet and verizon don't like each other. :-)
20:21:27 <wilcal> this problem surfaced in like oct/nov and has been on and off since then
20:21:57 <wilcal> I can get really really fast xfers from Japan but not some European servers
20:22:05 <wilcal> even China
20:22:18 <DavidWHodgins> If you change the Matric to packet loss, those two are losing about 7% of packets between each other
20:22:30 <DavidWHodgins> s /Matric/Metric/
20:22:48 <Benmc> only installer issues I have noted are discrepancies in default keyboard selection i586 and x86_64 (english)
20:23:04 <DavidWHodgins> What type of problems?
20:24:07 <Benmc> i586 lists 6 keyboards. x86 lists 7
20:24:34 <Benmc> adds us keyboard (macintosh)
20:24:49 <DavidWHodgins> I always use the default en_us, so never noticed
20:25:18 <wilcal> same here
20:25:53 <hviaene> I have to use BE, so I never looked at the other options
20:25:57 <Benmc> another is during an USB install, the installer USB may (or maynotbe) shown in custom disk partitioning
20:26:02 <DavidWHodgins> While strange, that would be a rather low priority bug
20:26:09 <Benmc> I us NZ english
20:26:21 <DavidWHodgins> Is that on real hardware or under vb?
20:26:31 <Benmc> borth under real h/w
20:27:19 <DavidWHodgins> That may be a timing issue of some sort. I'm not sure if it should be shown or not
20:27:55 <Benmc> not sure diskdrake should be tinkered with
20:28:05 <DavidWHodgins> Repartitioning the usb drive while in use would be rather dangerous
20:28:20 <DavidWHodgins> Or at least I expect it would be
20:28:41 <wilcal> Oh!!! lets talk about nvidia in sta2 it's status
20:28:59 <Benmc> the USB is shown as atab , with 0 bytes available
20:29:37 <DavidWHodgins> I think Martin said the latest nvidia fixes were done just after the mirror was synced for these iso images
20:29:55 <wilcal> The hardware install I just did ignored nvidia
20:29:58 <DavidWHodgins> So hopefully fixed in next ones
20:30:26 <wilcal> I bet if I force install the nvidia driver it's take a dive
20:30:30 <tjandrews> I believe that is the fix to allow nvidia to boot if installed from the iso, but I'm not sure on that.
20:30:50 <wilcal> maybe that's the last big show stopper
20:30:57 <DavidWHodgins> Yes. It was a fix to correct the building of the nvidia drivers
20:31:01 <hviaene> wilcal: no it does not
20:31:40 <DavidWHodgins> Not the last rc blocker. :-)
20:31:55 <wilcal> we can't release this thing without nvidia support or can we
20:32:05 <DavidWHodgins> No way for rc
20:32:28 <tjandrews> We CAN, if we are willing to accept the consequences... I'm not.
20:32:31 <DavidWHodgins> The release candidate should not have any release blocker bugs
20:32:36 <wilcal> what are the other stoppers hviaene?
20:32:59 <DavidWHodgins> bug 20368 for one
20:33:00 <[mbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20368 normal, release_blocker, mageiatools, NEW , Net installation of Mageia 6 sta2 finished with a very small and double screen.
20:33:12 <wilcal> ya that's for sure
20:33:19 <hviaene> I meant: forcing the nividia to install has no ill effects
20:33:22 <wilcal> but it's only Vbox
20:33:44 <wilcal> I can try that on the install I just did. Want to?
20:33:44 <DavidWHodgins> Still a blocker, as some people only run Mageia as vb guests
20:34:01 <DavidWHodgins> wilcal: Please do
20:34:20 <wilcal> brb
20:34:22 <Benmc> not just a net install, from local hdd as wel, been remarked on the fruml
20:34:31 <Benmc> forum
20:34:51 <DavidWHodgins> IIRC, it's only when bulding the driver at the end of t he install, not a problem if installed after first boot
20:34:51 <tjandrews> I will try with my nvidia340 machine after the meeting. I'd do it now, but I'm using it.
20:34:59 <DavidWHodgins> Thanks
20:35:45 <DavidWHodgins> Let's move on
20:35:49 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Testing updates - Any difficulties, problems, issues?
20:36:17 <DavidWHodgins> I'm just getting the adivories added to svn. Will finish after the meeting
20:36:36 <tjandrews> David: That's the way it has worked with nvidia 340 from the start. Add the driver after the first boot, and add "nokmsboot" manually, and it works.
20:36:44 <tarazed> python-paramiko  is being tested with duplicity and I ran into trouble with that.
20:36:55 <DavidWHodgins> tjandrews: Is that in the errata?
20:37:09 <wilcal> so we've got a new Virtualbox to test
20:37:15 <tjandrews> "nokmsboot" SHOULD be added by the MCC installer, but isn't. At least, not for me.
20:37:51 <tjandrews> David: I don't know.
20:39:03 <tjandrews> Moving on now... ;)
20:39:39 <tarazed> Could somebody try dokuwiki - it fails for me after the update.
20:40:17 <DavidWHodgins> tarazed: I'll take a look at it
20:40:28 <tarazed> Thanks.
20:40:39 <wilcal> I'll start on Virtual Box after this meeting. I'm pretty busy this weekend
20:40:49 <DavidWHodgins> For bug 20403, it still needs the kio srpm updated
20:40:50 <[mbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20403 normal, Normal, qa-bugs, NEW , kio, kdelibs4 new security issue CVE-2017-6410, kio-5.29.0-1.mga6.src.rpm, kdelibs4-4.14.27-2.mga6.src.rpm
20:41:12 <DavidWHodgins> kdelibs4 has an update to test, but not kio yet
20:41:14 <tmb> wilcal, wait until I list the 5.1.18 based virtualbox packages
20:41:45 <tmb> wilcal, they are currently building
20:42:19 <wilcal> Ahhh really next chance I'll get will be Monday then. Will they be ready by then?
20:42:19 <DavidWHodgins> anyone here familiar with using German localisation for bug 16187
20:42:20 <[mbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16187 normal, Normal, qa-bugs, NEW , German localisation issue in drakrpm-editmedia (Unable to parse accelerator '<Strg>-U' for action 'Update'), rpmdrake-6.20-1.mga5
20:42:39 <tmb> wilcal, they will be ready in about ~1 hour
20:42:48 <DavidWHodgins> Pluse mirror sync time
20:43:16 <brian__> will we go back to regular directory.  When I went to the prestate directory, my rsync didn't find any changes
20:43:57 <tjandrews> tmb: Will you be using the same bug for the announcement?
20:44:15 <DavidWHodgins> brian__: When we actually build the rc iso images, I expect the directories will be renamed and the regular directories used
20:44:37 <tmb> tjandrews, yes, I'll update it when its ready
20:44:50 <hviaene> German, I am willing to give it a try.
20:44:55 <wilcal> The M6 force nvidia driver install on my test system here ended up in an endless reboot loop. It wants to install the driver it says over and over.
20:44:58 <tjandrews> Good. I just added myself to the mailing list.
20:45:03 <DavidWHodgins> brian__: Make sure the directory is /isos/mageia6-pretesting/
20:45:20 <DavidWHodgins> wilcal: Ouch
20:45:34 <DavidWHodgins> tjandrews: Which list?
20:45:43 <wilcal> killdisk that disk :-(....
20:45:56 <tjandrews> David: The list for the Virtualbox update.
20:46:04 <DavidWHodgins> Ah. Ok
20:46:04 <brian__> is it still at home/isos/magiea6-pretesting or it down a level?
20:46:45 <DavidWHodgins> rsync://isoqa@bcd.mageia.org/isos/mageia6-pretesting/
20:46:52 <brian__> ok
20:47:19 <DavidWHodgins> Just don't share the password here. :-)
20:47:27 <brian__> nope
20:48:34 <DavidWHodgins> Any questions, comments, or problems with any of the other updates? They all look like ones we've had before.
20:49:20 <DavidWHodgins> Moving on ...
20:49:24 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Security roundup - Security news & expected updates
20:49:32 <DavidWHodgins> ping Luigi12_work
20:49:42 <DavidWHodgins> Available?
20:49:51 <wilcal> I really borked that test system :-0....
20:49:57 <DavidWHodgins> lol
20:49:59 <Luigi12_work> not really, I don't expect I'll be doing any more roundups
20:50:19 <DavidWHodgins> Ok. Thanks
20:50:25 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Anything else?
20:50:39 <wilcal> http://www.killdisk.com is my friend
20:50:40 <[mbot> [ How to erase hard drive by Active@ KillDisk? Low Level Disk Format & Disk Sanitizer. ]
20:50:43 <DavidWHodgins> So anyone have anything else they'd like to add?
20:50:45 <tmb> atleast a kernel update is on the way and a xen one...
20:50:50 <wilcal> I've nothing else
20:51:02 <hviaene> Not me
20:51:04 <brian__> ugh xen
20:51:09 <brian__> nothing from me
20:51:22 <Benmc> nothing more here
20:51:40 <tjandrews> My Probook 6550b still LOVES M6 Plasma...
20:51:42 <DavidWHodgins> wilcal: From a live iso boot, as root, "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdx bs=1M count=1" should do it.
20:51:54 <DavidWHodgins> tjandrews: Nice
20:51:56 <wilcal> :-))) thanks
20:52:01 <hviaene> Ben: is NZ english different from OZ english???
20:52:35 <Benmc> that is a whole topic in itself :-)
20:53:02 <DavidWHodgins> Probably similar to the differences between en_US and en_CA. Canada uses a mix of en_GB and en_US
20:53:03 <brian__> we need a "texting english"
20:53:09 <DavidWHodgins> :-)
20:53:23 <DavidWHodgins> Looks like countdown time then
20:53:27 <DavidWHodgins> t - 5
20:53:29 <Benmc> never checked the installer to see if different, something for tonight
20:53:30 <hviaene> For non-native OZ it sounds quite similar
20:53:30 <DavidWHodgins> 4
20:53:33 <wilcal> bye all
20:53:35 <DavidWHodgins> 3
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20:53:48 <DavidWHodgins> Thanks for coming everyone!
20:53:53 <DavidWHodgins> #endmeeting