20:03:24 <wilcal> #startmeeting 20:03:24 <Inigo_Montoya`> Meeting started Thu Dec 29 20:03:24 2016 UTC. The chair is wilcal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:03:24 <Inigo_Montoya`> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 20:03:39 <wilcal> #topic Who's new? 20:04:20 <brian_> anybody new? 20:04:24 <lewyssmith> If there is anyone new here, please speak up. 20:04:52 <lewyssmith> Looks not, Bill. 20:05:31 <lewyssmith> -> 20:05:41 <wilcal> #topic M6 How's it looking? 20:06:08 <wilcal> A question cam up should there be another round of sta1 20:06:09 <Son_Goku> it's been pretty solid from my point of view, ever since we knocked out those bugs with sddm 20:06:40 <lewyssmith> We only have the Lives to seriously play with; I found loads of glitches just brushing Gnome, but nothing serious. 20:06:48 <wilcal> I've got a brand new this morning from a blank drive boot.iso install of plasma cooking right now 20:06:56 <wilcal> should be finished in e minute 20:06:56 <Son_Goku> my only major beef right now is that I keep hitting an auto-partitioning bug 20:07:31 <wilcal> It's pretty solid 20:07:40 <lewyssmith> I think we are waiting for a couple of important bug fixes for the Classic. One to do with boot partition on MBR discs. Dangerous. 20:07:49 <Son_Goku> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19888 20:07:52 <[mbot> Bug 19888: major, release_blocker, mageiatools, NEW , Autopartitioner doesn't account for required BIOS boot partition for GPT MBR disks 20:07:54 <wilcal> hopefully it'll get finished off by end of Jan 20:08:25 <lewyssmith> Son_Goku: That's the one. 20:08:40 <Son_Goku> this bug has straight up driven me insane, because I also can't create BIOS boot partitions by hand, as it throws an error about being unable to delete or create partitions 20:08:55 <Son_Goku> and if the partitions exist, it can't format them, and so on 20:09:00 <lewyssmith> I need to raise several shamefully trivial bugs for GnomeLive; needs must? 20:09:30 <wilcal> Son would partitioning work if you were installing to a blank drive? 20:09:44 <lewyssmith> Son_Goku: There has been a huge discussion of this on qa-discuss. Do yoy see that? 20:09:51 <Son_Goku> if it's less than 2TB so that it doesn't decide to GPT, yes 20:10:01 <wilcal> Hmmmm 20:10:17 <wilcal> Biggest drive I have here is 2TB 20:10:19 <Son_Goku> and I can't do any manual partitioning to GPT without it being completely broken 20:10:35 <Son_Goku> actually, is it 2TB or 4TB for the automatic GPT usage? 20:10:53 <Son_Goku> ah, yep, 2TB 20:11:00 <wilcal> That's gotta be fixed then 20:11:02 <Son_Goku> MBR maxes out at 2TB per disk 20:11:24 <lewyssmith> It is a known and well aired problem. 20:11:52 <Son_Goku> lewyssmith: I didn't see the qa-discuss thread, what's the subject name? 20:11:56 <wilcal> I haven't see the "Good Luck" error for quite some time now 20:12:13 <Son_Goku> (I had been sick for the last two weeks, so I had been staying away...) 20:13:02 <brian_> :-) 20:13:16 <brian_> glad you're better 20:13:19 <Son_Goku> wilcal: the good luck bugs are basically gone now :) 20:13:34 <lewyssmith> Son_Goku: I will look. **Mga6 custom partitioning** 20:14:28 <wilcal> I've seen some Plasma freezes that required ctrl-backspace to get out of 20:14:56 <lewyssmith> Bill, am I right to think that current pre-test Classic is still in quarantine? 20:15:33 <lewyssmith> BTW You owe me a view on the revised document. 20:16:07 <wilcal> Yes 20:16:31 <wilcal> Note: i'm still having problems with bandwidth to European servers 20:16:41 <wilcal> ok 20:16:52 <lewyssmith> The outside world is getting restless, losing patience. 20:17:19 <wilcal> I didn't really see anything with that I would object to 20:17:25 <wilcal> leave as is then 20:17:43 <lewyssmith> Thanks. 20:17:50 <Son_Goku> really, I'd say the massively broken partitioning for GPT is the remaining issue for a smooth experience 20:18:17 <lewyssmith> wilcal: I will circulate to all the group aftezr the New Year. 20:18:23 <brian_> once the next round is built, I'll bang on them again. The instances I have up seem stable. 20:18:38 <lewyssmith> Son_Goku: There is also a packaging problem that matters. 20:18:51 <Son_Goku> what packaging problem? 20:19:21 <wilcal> ok here is where I'm at as of right now 20:19:33 <wilcal> repo updated here about 6hrs ago 20:19:38 <lewyssmith> Son_Goku! It falls over near the end for some people; a dependancy thing I think. 20:19:44 <wilcal> blank zeroed out drive 20:20:02 <wilcal> boot.iso x86_64 install from local repo 20:20:17 <Son_Goku> lewyssmith: I know we still have some issues to sort out with Plasma, but that's because KDE decided to split things up some more 20:20:18 <wilcal> installed clean no reported problems 20:20:26 <Son_Goku> I think neoclust already handled those issues? 20:20:33 <wilcal> reboot to a working Plasma desk top 20:20:36 <brian_> are we still sta2? 20:20:36 <wilcal> outstanding 20:20:40 <wilcal> yes 20:22:56 <wilcal> I think once we get into next week things should pick up some 20:23:26 <lewyssmith> Martin is ready to update the Live ISOs, but the Classic is slow. 20:23:56 <wilcal> so we should see those next week then 20:24:10 <lewyssmith> He asked whether we wanted them yet. 20:24:33 <wilcal> I wouldn't release them till Monday 20:24:52 <lewyssmith> The new nVidia driver is a key issue. 20:25:06 <wilcal> The 340 problem 20:25:18 <wilcal> I think that was the nvidia number 20:25:21 <wilcal> driver number 20:25:31 <lewyssmith> wilcal: Bill, have you lost at last your auto-login blues? 20:25:53 <wilcal> Yes, auto-login thing is long past 20:26:03 <lewyssmith> Bugs closed? 20:26:09 <wilcal> I went through all my old bugs and set them to resolved 20:26:18 <wilcal> i had like 30 outstanding bugs 20:26:20 <lewyssmith> Good of you. 20:26:37 <wilcal> there are still a few but not like it was 20:27:04 <lewyssmith> Let's move on. 20:27:05 <wilcal> I'll go through that process again starting on Monday 20:27:11 <wilcal> lets do 20:27:29 <wilcal> #topic Testing Updates 20:27:51 <wilcal> I'll look at the two kernels today or tomorrow 20:28:29 <wilcal> I'm familiar with flightgear but confused about what that bug is all about 20:28:33 <lewyssmith> Herman & Len have done heroic things on the huge-as-was list. Every time I take a look to do an update, I have to instead do oads of advisories! 20:28:37 <brian_> I think Samba is ready, would love somebody else to look at it 20:29:11 <lewyssmith> If it is a network thing, I cannot. 20:29:45 <brian_> np - seems to work 20:30:06 <wilcal> That nvidia thing has to work on a system running Vbox 20:30:21 <lewyssmith> You will see. 20:30:34 <wilcal> yup 20:31:48 <lewyssmith> The list is long, but now with many cleared and several OKs already. 20:32:53 <wilcal> OK just checked this and it's a pain in the you know what 20:33:07 <lewyssmith> I am better placed to attack now, starting with the 32-bit Herman OKs. 20:33:12 <wilcal> we are running an outdated Flash lots of sites are complaining 20:33:28 <wilcal> the bug was on the list now it's gone 20:33:42 <wilcal> any idea what's going on here? 20:33:48 <lewyssmith> I saw it in Updates Testing, but it is not in the list. 20:34:01 <wilcal> it was now it's off 20:34:14 <wilcal> I'm sure lots of our users are grumbling 20:34:36 <wilcal> It's easily fixed manually 20:35:24 <wilcal> fwiw I use Firefox 50.1.0 and manually install the latest flash plugin 20:35:48 <wilcal> anyway why is the bug off the list? 20:35:57 <lewyssmith> Do not know. 20:36:25 <lewyssmith> Ask akien? 20:36:39 <wilcal> We've been running about one flash update a month this year 20:37:01 <wilcal> fwiw these updates contain many fixes the latest is 15 fixes 20:37:53 <wilcal> anyway back to updates 20:38:20 <lewyssmith> Not a lot to say, except that there *are* alot. 20:39:08 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19993 20:39:10 <[mbot> Bug 19993: normal, Normal, qa-bugs, NEW , Update request: nvidia3xx, nvidia3xx 20:39:37 <wilcal> is hardware specific and can't be tested unless you have a specific nvidia board 20:40:00 <lewyssmith> I think TJ has. 20:40:34 <lewyssmith> Anyway, -> ? 20:40:50 <wilcal> lets move on 20:41:28 <lewyssmith> OK 20:41:50 <wilcal> # topic luigi 20:42:02 <lewyssmith> ping Luigi12 20:42:22 <wilcal> #topic Luigi 20:43:04 <wilcal> Rats not here but functioning I guess 20:43:15 <lewyssmith> Too well! 20:43:26 <wilcal> :-) 20:43:42 <lewyssmith> quick, in case he pops up... 20:43:50 <wilcal> #topic Anything Else? 20:43:58 <lewyssmith> Not here. 20:44:05 <wilcal> I've not anything else 20:44:25 <wilcal> will get some updates testing today or tomorrow 20:44:32 <lewyssmith> Have an inebriate New Year. It does not come often. 20:44:53 <wilcal> How many here are now running M6 as a usable system? 20:45:18 <Son_Goku> I am 20:45:23 <wilcal> Me too 20:45:27 <Son_Goku> I only have one M5 system, all the rest of them are M6 ones 20:45:31 <lewyssmith> I have it, usable; but M5 is my mainstay. 20:45:32 <wilcal> I try to use it as much as possible 20:45:44 <wilcal> My many server is M5 20:45:49 <wilcal> main serve 20:45:51 <wilcal> server 20:46:03 <Son_Goku> I stopped using M5 for almost everything 20:46:12 <Son_Goku> I only have one M5 system for backporting stuff to M5 20:46:13 <wilcal> using it is the best way to test it 20:46:17 <lewyssmith> Testing updates? 20:46:41 <wilcal> I have Vbox installed on my M6 system and try to use that as much as possible 20:46:45 <brian_> I'm mostly on M5, with one machine on M6. But not daily living yet 20:47:51 <wilcal> ok i think we've kinda exhausted everything for now 20:47:58 <wilcal> count down 20:48:02 <wilcal> T-5 20:48:15 <wilcal> T-4 20:48:18 <lewyssmith> Thanks for your work, Bill; and to those who came. 20:48:22 <wilcal> thanks all 20:48:25 <wilcal> T-3 20:48:27 <ca-on-adam> T-2.5 20:48:31 <wilcal> T-2 20:48:34 <wilcal> T-1 20:48:44 <lewyssmith> Goodbye everyone. 20:48:52 <wilcal> bye 20:48:55 <King_InuYasha> bye 20:48:55 <wilcal> #endmeeting