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20:03:39 <wilcal> #topic Who's new?
20:04:20 <brian_> anybody new?
20:04:24 <lewyssmith> If there is anyone new here, please speak up.
20:04:52 <lewyssmith> Looks not, Bill.
20:05:31 <lewyssmith> ->
20:05:41 <wilcal> #topic M6 How's it looking?
20:06:08 <wilcal> A question cam up should there be another round of sta1
20:06:09 <Son_Goku> it's been pretty solid from my point of view, ever since we knocked out those bugs with sddm
20:06:40 <lewyssmith> We only have the Lives to seriously play with; I found loads of glitches just brushing Gnome, but nothing serious.
20:06:48 <wilcal> I've got a brand new this morning from a blank drive boot.iso install of plasma cooking right now
20:06:56 <wilcal> should be finished in e minute
20:06:56 <Son_Goku> my only major beef right now is that I keep hitting an auto-partitioning bug
20:07:31 <wilcal> It's pretty solid
20:07:40 <lewyssmith> I think we are waiting for a couple of important bug fixes for the Classic. One to do with boot partition on MBR discs. Dangerous.
20:07:49 <Son_Goku> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19888
20:07:52 <[mbot> Bug 19888: major, release_blocker, mageiatools, NEW , Autopartitioner doesn't account for required BIOS boot partition for GPT MBR disks
20:07:54 <wilcal> hopefully it'll get finished off by end of Jan
20:08:25 <lewyssmith> Son_Goku: That's the one.
20:08:40 <Son_Goku> this bug has straight up driven me insane, because I also can't create BIOS boot partitions by hand, as it throws an error about being unable to delete or create partitions
20:08:55 <Son_Goku> and if the partitions exist, it can't format them, and so on
20:09:00 <lewyssmith> I need to raise several shamefully trivial bugs for GnomeLive; needs must?
20:09:30 <wilcal> Son would partitioning work if you were installing to a blank drive?
20:09:44 <lewyssmith> Son_Goku: There has been a huge discussion of this on qa-discuss. Do yoy see that?
20:09:51 <Son_Goku> if it's less than 2TB so that it doesn't decide to GPT, yes
20:10:01 <wilcal> Hmmmm
20:10:17 <wilcal> Biggest drive I have here is 2TB
20:10:19 <Son_Goku> and I can't do any manual partitioning to GPT without it being completely broken
20:10:35 <Son_Goku> actually, is it 2TB or 4TB for the automatic GPT usage?
20:10:53 <Son_Goku> ah, yep, 2TB
20:11:00 <wilcal> That's gotta be fixed then
20:11:02 <Son_Goku> MBR maxes out at 2TB per disk
20:11:24 <lewyssmith> It is a known and well aired problem.
20:11:52 <Son_Goku> lewyssmith: I didn't see the qa-discuss thread, what's the subject name?
20:11:56 <wilcal> I haven't see the "Good Luck" error for quite some time now
20:12:13 <Son_Goku> (I had been sick for the last two weeks, so I had been staying away...)
20:13:02 <brian_> :-)
20:13:16 <brian_> glad you're better
20:13:19 <Son_Goku> wilcal: the good luck bugs are basically gone now :)
20:13:34 <lewyssmith> Son_Goku: I will look. **Mga6 custom partitioning**
20:14:28 <wilcal> I've seen some Plasma freezes that required ctrl-backspace to get out of
20:14:56 <lewyssmith> Bill, am I right to think that current pre-test Classic is still in quarantine?
20:15:33 <lewyssmith> BTW You owe me a view on the revised document.
20:16:07 <wilcal> Yes
20:16:31 <wilcal> Note: i'm still having problems with bandwidth to European servers
20:16:41 <wilcal> ok
20:16:52 <lewyssmith> The outside world is getting restless, losing patience.
20:17:19 <wilcal> I didn't really see anything with that I would object to
20:17:25 <wilcal> leave as is then
20:17:43 <lewyssmith> Thanks.
20:17:50 <Son_Goku> really, I'd say the massively broken partitioning for GPT is the remaining issue for a smooth experience
20:18:17 <lewyssmith> wilcal: I will circulate to all the group aftezr the New Year.
20:18:23 <brian_> once the next round is built, I'll bang on them again.  The instances I have up seem stable.
20:18:38 <lewyssmith> Son_Goku: There is also a packaging problem that matters.
20:18:51 <Son_Goku> what packaging problem?
20:19:21 <wilcal> ok here is where I'm at as of right now
20:19:33 <wilcal> repo updated here about 6hrs ago
20:19:38 <lewyssmith> Son_Goku! It falls over near the end for some people; a dependancy thing I think.
20:19:44 <wilcal> blank zeroed out drive
20:20:02 <wilcal> boot.iso x86_64 install from local repo
20:20:17 <Son_Goku> lewyssmith: I know we still have some issues to sort out with Plasma, but that's because KDE decided to split things up some more
20:20:18 <wilcal> installed clean no reported problems
20:20:26 <Son_Goku> I think neoclust already handled those issues?
20:20:33 <wilcal> reboot to a working Plasma desk top
20:20:36 <brian_> are we still sta2?
20:20:36 <wilcal> outstanding
20:20:40 <wilcal> yes
20:22:56 <wilcal> I think once we get into next week things should pick up some
20:23:26 <lewyssmith> Martin is ready to update the Live ISOs, but the Classic is slow.
20:23:56 <wilcal> so we should see those next week then
20:24:10 <lewyssmith> He asked whether we wanted them yet.
20:24:33 <wilcal> I wouldn't release them till Monday
20:24:52 <lewyssmith> The new nVidia driver is a key issue.
20:25:06 <wilcal> The 340 problem
20:25:18 <wilcal> I think that was the nvidia number
20:25:21 <wilcal> driver number
20:25:31 <lewyssmith> wilcal: Bill, have you lost at last your auto-login blues?
20:25:53 <wilcal> Yes, auto-login thing is long past
20:26:03 <lewyssmith> Bugs closed?
20:26:09 <wilcal> I went through all my old bugs and set them to resolved
20:26:18 <wilcal> i had like 30 outstanding bugs
20:26:20 <lewyssmith> Good of you.
20:26:37 <wilcal> there are still a few but not like it was
20:27:04 <lewyssmith> Let's move on.
20:27:05 <wilcal> I'll go through that process again starting on Monday
20:27:11 <wilcal> lets do
20:27:29 <wilcal> #topic Testing Updates
20:27:51 <wilcal> I'll look at the two kernels today or tomorrow
20:28:29 <wilcal> I'm familiar with flightgear but confused about what that bug is all about
20:28:33 <lewyssmith> Herman & Len have done heroic things on the huge-as-was list. Every time I take a look to do an update, I have to instead do oads of advisories!
20:28:37 <brian_> I think Samba is ready, would love somebody else to look at it
20:29:11 <lewyssmith> If it is a network thing, I cannot.
20:29:45 <brian_> np - seems to work
20:30:06 <wilcal> That nvidia thing has to work on a system running Vbox
20:30:21 <lewyssmith> You will see.
20:30:34 <wilcal> yup
20:31:48 <lewyssmith> The list is long, but now with many cleared and several OKs already.
20:32:53 <wilcal> OK just checked this and it's a pain in the you know what
20:33:07 <lewyssmith> I am better placed to attack now, starting with the 32-bit Herman OKs.
20:33:12 <wilcal> we are running an outdated Flash lots of sites are complaining
20:33:28 <wilcal> the bug was on the list now it's gone
20:33:42 <wilcal> any idea what's going on here?
20:33:48 <lewyssmith> I saw it in Updates Testing, but it is not in the list.
20:34:01 <wilcal> it was now it's off
20:34:14 <wilcal> I'm sure lots of our users are grumbling
20:34:36 <wilcal> It's easily fixed manually
20:35:24 <wilcal> fwiw I use Firefox 50.1.0 and manually install the latest flash plugin
20:35:48 <wilcal> anyway why is the bug off the list?
20:35:57 <lewyssmith> Do not know.
20:36:25 <lewyssmith> Ask akien?
20:36:39 <wilcal> We've been running about one flash update a month this year
20:37:01 <wilcal> fwiw these updates contain many fixes the latest is 15 fixes
20:37:53 <wilcal> anyway back to updates
20:38:20 <lewyssmith> Not a lot to say, except that there *are* alot.
20:39:08 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19993
20:39:10 <[mbot> Bug 19993: normal, Normal, qa-bugs, NEW , Update request: nvidia3xx, nvidia3xx
20:39:37 <wilcal> is hardware specific and can't be tested unless you have a specific nvidia board
20:40:00 <lewyssmith> I think TJ has.
20:40:34 <lewyssmith> Anyway, -> ?
20:40:50 <wilcal> lets move on
20:41:28 <lewyssmith> OK
20:41:50 <wilcal> # topic luigi
20:42:02 <lewyssmith> ping Luigi12
20:42:22 <wilcal> #topic Luigi
20:43:04 <wilcal> Rats not here but functioning I guess
20:43:15 <lewyssmith> Too well!
20:43:26 <wilcal> :-)
20:43:42 <lewyssmith> quick, in case he pops up...
20:43:50 <wilcal> #topic Anything Else?
20:43:58 <lewyssmith> Not here.
20:44:05 <wilcal> I've not anything else
20:44:25 <wilcal> will get some updates testing today or tomorrow
20:44:32 <lewyssmith> Have an inebriate New Year. It does not come often.
20:44:53 <wilcal> How many here are now running M6 as a usable system?
20:45:18 <Son_Goku> I am
20:45:23 <wilcal> Me too
20:45:27 <Son_Goku> I only have one M5 system, all the rest of them are M6 ones
20:45:31 <lewyssmith> I have it, usable; but M5 is my mainstay.
20:45:32 <wilcal> I try to use it as much as possible
20:45:44 <wilcal> My many server is M5
20:45:49 <wilcal> main serve
20:45:51 <wilcal> server
20:46:03 <Son_Goku> I stopped using M5 for almost everything
20:46:12 <Son_Goku> I only have one M5 system for backporting stuff to M5
20:46:13 <wilcal> using it is the best way to test it
20:46:17 <lewyssmith> Testing updates?
20:46:41 <wilcal> I have Vbox installed on my M6 system and try to use that as much as possible
20:46:45 <brian_> I'm mostly on M5, with one machine on M6.  But not daily living yet
20:47:51 <wilcal> ok i think we've kinda exhausted everything for now
20:47:58 <wilcal> count down
20:48:02 <wilcal> T-5
20:48:15 <wilcal> T-4
20:48:18 <lewyssmith> Thanks for your work, Bill; and to those who came.
20:48:22 <wilcal> thanks all
20:48:25 <wilcal> T-3
20:48:27 <ca-on-adam> T-2.5
20:48:31 <wilcal> T-2
20:48:34 <wilcal> T-1
20:48:44 <lewyssmith> Goodbye everyone.
20:48:52 <wilcal> bye
20:48:55 <King_InuYasha> bye
20:48:55 <wilcal> #endmeeting