19:04:00 <wilcal> #startmeeting 19:04:00 <Inigo_Montoya`> Meeting started Thu Oct 6 19:04:00 2016 UTC. The chair is wilcal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:04:00 <Inigo_Montoya`> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 19:04:13 <wilcal> #chair lewyssmith 19:04:13 <Inigo_Montoya`> Current chairs: lewyssmith wilcal 19:04:37 <lewyssmith> #topic Who's new? - If you are then come and say hello 19:04:49 <wilcal> hello newbees 19:06:13 <lewyssmith> Looks as if there are none, so 19:06:14 <wilcal> hello tmb good to see you 19:06:16 <lewyssmith> #topic Mageia 5.1 - Waiting for new isos 19:06:29 <lewyssmith> Hello tmb. 19:06:34 <wilcal> anne said shortly a couple days ago 19:07:31 <lewyssmith> They are in the pipeline, surely. It was yesterday that she spoke. 19:07:55 <Guest68697> seems I have issues with nickserv :) 19:08:25 <wilcal> your welcome here under any name :-) 19:09:03 <Guest68697> Anyway, for mga 5.1 isos "we" are waiting for kernel 4.4.22 and nonfree firmwares validation, and tv has some drakx fixes he wanted to add 19:09:17 <tarazed> It still complains about my nickname after two years. 19:09:21 <wilcal> by next qa meeting next week? 19:10:27 <lewyssmith> Kernel 4.4.22 looks good, some nonfree firmwares want testing. 19:10:33 <Guest68697> well iso builds should be somewhat fast... I've queued needed drakx fixes for nvme and kernel 4.4 support, so if tv does not have time, I'd suggest we go with that 19:10:49 <wilcal> anyway 5.1 is a work in progress and hopefully we'll be able to speak to that by next week this time 19:11:04 <Guest68697> I mailed him about ETA today so hopefully... 19:11:32 <wilcal> I've an open weekend so I've got some time 19:12:13 <wilcal> anything else on this 19:12:14 <lewyssmith> BTW I ran itno a problem of kernel-nonfree-firmware with 4.4.22. Perhaps just me. 19:12:39 <Guest68697> lewyssmith, do you have nonfree updates testing enabled ? 19:13:04 <Guest68697> lewyssmith, it should be there unless you hit a broken mirror 19:13:07 <lewyssmith> I needed to install it first. That did not work. 19:13:40 <lewyssmith> Not already having it, it was not visible in updates testing for me. 19:13:43 <Guest68697> lewyssmith, do a: urpmi.update "" && urpmi --media Testing kernel-firmware-nonfree 19:15:14 <Guest68697> the reason for the conflict on kernel-firmware-nonfree is so it gets installed before the kernel, and we get newest firmware in initrd. 19:15:22 <lewyssmith> Will try forthwith. It says it cannot see "Core Release". 19:15:59 <Guest68697> lewyssmith, sounds like a mirror in mid-sync (or broken) 19:16:36 <lewyssmith> OK; Move on.. 19:16:55 <lewyssmith> #topic Mageia 6 - What are your experiences? 19:17:19 <wilcal> Today I attempted a 200+ rpm on my x86_64 hw system and it blew up 19:17:38 <wilcal> a complete re-install was successful from boot.iso 19:17:40 <neoclust> wilcal: blew up ? 19:17:56 <wilcal> never came back. I kind of expect that didn't boot 19:18:01 <neoclust> Guest68697: hello :) 19:18:14 <Guest68697> neoclust, hi 19:18:39 <wilcal> I don't hold much in these cauldron updates unless the re-install is not successful for the same thing 19:19:13 <wilcal> so I have a working M6 Plasma system here, and updated 19:19:25 <neoclust> nice :) 19:19:38 <wilcal> Plasma to me is really really nice 19:20:04 <lewyssmith> Are your earlier complaints about icons etc resoved? 19:20:23 <wilcal> BTW I tried a meta-task install of Gnome on a Plasma system ( Vbox client ) and that was not successful 19:20:42 <wilcal> would you expect that to work at this time? 19:20:53 <wilcal> task-gnome 19:22:46 <Guest68697> I think I saw some gnome packages still being fixed/updated for 3.22 19:23:02 <wilcal> well we'll give that a go again soon 19:23:26 <lewyssmith> It is quiet. Shall we move on to the real work in hand? 19:23:27 <wilcal> again installed alone M6-Gnome looks ok 19:23:32 <wilcal> yes 19:23:37 <lewyssmith> #topic Testing updates - Any difficulties, problems, issues? 19:23:56 <lewyssmith> No messing, the list is huge. 19:23:56 <wilcal> Ta Ta I am happy with Virtualbox and the kernel update 19:24:09 <wilcal> Many thanks to tmb 19:24:24 <tarazed> The trouble is some of them take a very long time to sort. 19:24:37 <lewyssmith> As well I know... 19:25:25 <wilcal> move thunderbird along? 19:25:31 <tarazed> I skipped the 32bit rdp test for that reason. 19:25:32 <lewyssmith> Guest68697: tmb, is it worth noting on the 'nonfree frirmware' bug that it should be tried *before* the kernel one. And vice-versa? 19:26:39 <wilcal> I can get to graphicsmagick in the next day or so 19:27:27 <neoclust> wilcal: "move thunderbird along?" ? wdym ? 19:27:28 <lewyssmith> tarazed: I shall poke you on a bug you followed Dave on once in a previous incarnation, but your comments were cryptic. 19:28:10 <Guest68697> lewyssmith, well, I dont expect any problems from the firmware packages, but they need to go out before or at the same time as the kernel, exactly because of the forced conflict 19:28:11 <wilcal> yes's on the testing 19:28:38 <wilcal> should be pushed anyone object 19:29:11 <lewyssmith> No. I can do that unless Dave gets in first. 19:29:23 <wilcal> wireshark on the list and I'll get to that in the ned 19:29:31 <wilcal> next days 19:30:59 <neoclust> wilcal: i think TB can be tagged as validated now 19:31:37 <lewyssmith> I cannot do update tests that require >1 computer (even if VBox), which is limiting. 19:32:06 <wilcal> sounds like a plan neo 19:33:04 <tarazed> lewys: Ok, just noticed your comment 19:33:46 <tarazed> Might look at phpZendFramework - it has a procedure 19:33:51 <lewyssmith> Thunderbird validated; no sooner said than done! 19:34:06 <wilcal> Nice we aim to please 19:34:28 <lewyssmith> Still need to do the advisory though; that takes a bit longer. 19:34:38 <wilcal> No critical Flash updates this week. That's rare 19:34:49 <wilcal> so far 19:35:14 <neoclust> wilcal: i have created TB advisory file, as soon as it is validated, i move it 19:35:23 <wilcal> super 19:36:32 <wilcal> openjpeg2 still stuck? 19:36:44 <wilcal> soooo long on the list 19:36:51 <tarazed> Had little time to study that 19:37:19 <tarazed> The build system is opaque to me 19:38:36 <lewyssmith> tarazed: The thing I referred to was asterisk. I can try if I understood better "Invoked asterisk under root and ran the simple tests. Checked that the -B option worked and accessed the asterix server from another root terminal. After exiting the original session could get back to the server using 'asterisk -r'. 19:39:23 <tarazed> So long ago. Will have a look at it and get back to you. Sometime. 19:40:20 <neoclust> what about : https://bugs.mageia.org/15413 ? 19:40:22 <[mbot> [ Bug 15413 Sane plustek backend does not work with USB 3.0 controllers. ] 19:42:10 <lewyssmith> Do not see it on the list. 19:42:31 <tarazed> But it is still open 19:42:45 <lewyssmith> Oh? 19:42:47 <wilcal> i can try it again 19:43:22 <lewyssmith> Needs specific hardware. 19:45:20 <lewyssmith> BTAIM There is something for everyone. Please keep picking at them. 19:45:59 <lewyssmith> Shall we move on? 19:46:16 <wilcal> yes 19:46:31 <lewyssmith> Your wish is my command... 19:46:34 <lewyssmith> #topic Luigi's roundup - Security news & expected updates 19:46:53 <wilcal> we got lots of updates to work on :-)) 19:47:41 <lewyssmith> I think David manifests his presenc by the non-stop arrival of security updates. Despite no roundup. 19:47:57 * Luigi12 is here 19:48:05 <wilcal> Nice!!!!! 19:48:18 <lewyssmith> Speak of the devil... 19:49:27 <Luigi12> bug filed for the kdesu command (kdebase4-runtime package) which needs patches backported by neoclust or the KDE team 19:49:46 <Luigi12> serious local DoS issue for systemd you may have heard about, waiting for coling to finalize that update 19:50:04 <Luigi12> clamav needs an update for mga5. Unfortunately the maintainer has moved on from this world. 19:50:17 <Luigi12> fix in progress by pterjan for an issue in ruby 19:50:40 <Luigi12> bugs filed for pacemaker and perl-DBD-mysql 19:51:02 <Luigi12> Mozilla security audit for dnsmasq found some issues, need the maintainer (julien) to backport some patches 19:51:33 <Luigi12> a handful of X11 client libraries failed to verify correctness of information returned from the X server, someone needs to backport patches for those 19:51:56 <Luigi12> some kmail (kdepim4 package) patches from upstream need to be backported (KDE team again) 19:52:41 <Luigi12> some recent security fixes for ghostscript (issues are exposed by making thumbnails of PDF files by things like imagemagick) need backported, patches didn't look easy to backport to mga5 19:52:56 <Luigi12> bug filed today for freeimage (Akien is the maintainer) 19:53:08 <Luigi12> that's the latest stuff on my list 19:53:16 <lewyssmith> Nice to see you David, & thanks for your continued toil & for showing up. 19:54:49 <Luigi12> you're welcome 19:54:57 <wilcal> lets move on to anything else 19:55:10 <lewyssmith> #topic Anything else? 19:55:40 <wilcal> with tmb here how close are we to pushing Vbox & kernel for M5? 19:56:39 <wilcal> i'd like to get those behind us 19:59:12 <lewyssmith> How is it decided to OK them? 19:59:36 <wilcal> enough people have tested both of them and are happy 19:59:50 <wilcal> kinda becomes a community thumbs up 20:00:03 <lewyssmith> Rephrase: Who decides? 20:00:11 <wilcal> don't have to make that decision today but for sure next QA meeting 20:00:16 <tarazed> What is the etiquette regarding files downloaded from outside sources during testing? Attach them or record the links? 20:00:31 <wilcal> tmb the Davids me anne ect ect 20:00:46 <wilcal> I do both tar 20:01:04 <tarazed> Just making sure. 20:01:12 <wilcal> there's a 1MB size limit on the Bug 20:01:13 <lewyssmith> tarazed: Len my guess is if they are not too big, attach them; otherwise the link. 20:01:32 <wilcal> I also use ZIP on text files 20:02:09 <tarazed> I guess the link provides the ackknowledgement 20:02:21 <lewyssmith> But they can go dead. 20:02:35 <tarazed> Sure. 20:02:52 <wilcal> I have my own webserver here and use that in a link from time to time 20:04:39 <lewyssmith> Quiet tonight. Countdown? Bill, you do endmeeting. 20:04:56 <lewyssmith> -5 20:05:01 <lewyssmith> -4 20:05:05 <wilcal> bye all 20:05:14 <lewyssmith> Thanks to all for coming, goodbye. 20:05:14 <tarazed> Goodbye folks. 20:05:18 <lewyssmith> -3 20:05:24 <lewyssmith> -2 20:05:28 <lewyssmith> -1 20:05:32 <lewyssmith> 0 20:05:34 <wilcal> #endmeeting