19:07:49 <DavidWHodgins> #startmeeting 19:07:49 <Inigo_Montoya> Meeting started Thu Jul 21 19:07:49 2016 UTC. The chair is DavidWHodgins. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:07:49 <Inigo_Montoya> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 19:08:04 <DavidWHodgins> #chair wilcal lewyssmith 19:08:04 <Inigo_Montoya> Current chairs: DavidWHodgins lewyssmith wilcal 19:08:17 <tjandrews> Yes, I see the line on my tablet, stretching across lower Michigan. Looks nasty. 19:08:47 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Who's new? - If you are then come and say hello. 19:09:16 <DavidWHodgins> Looking through the list, I don't think there's anyone new 19:09:30 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Mageia 6 - How's it looking? 19:09:47 <wilcal> Ah yes much more usable now 19:10:07 <lewyssmith> Curiously, Bill is largely happy; other people less so. 19:10:08 <wilcal> I can start looking at apps rather then if it installs 19:10:09 <DavidWHodgins> I've only done a small amout of testing under vb so far. Looks ok from what I've seen 19:10:11 <tjandrews> I can't say much, because I still haven't done much with it. 19:10:12 <tarazed> All except live isos on real hardware 19:10:26 <wilcal> ya things are really looking a lot better 19:10:31 <rindolf> I'm using Cauldron here on my Core i3 desktop machine. 19:10:32 <wilcal> still some way to go 19:10:38 <tarazed> Live isos are OK on vbox I think. 19:10:52 <wilcal> I've filed a couple critical bugs in the last couple days 19:10:56 <lewyssmith> Nvidia is still causing some people grief. 19:10:58 <tony_> My quite specific problem is the installer doesn't handle RAID properly 19:11:01 <wilcal> something wrong with the printing thing 19:11:12 <tjandrews> But, just to emphasize what I said on the mailing list, the no auto login thing is a deal breaker for me. 19:11:14 <wilcal> ya the nvidia thing is a hastle 19:11:29 <wilcal> tj it's a release blocker 19:11:42 <tarazed> wilcal: printing problem? 19:11:45 <lewyssmith> tony_: I really thought that Raid thing had been fixed last time. 19:11:48 <brian> mga6 plasma has issues 19:11:54 <tony_> I believe as a consequence it might permanently damage hardware; discarding disk sectors and smaller disk on reboot? 19:11:55 <wilcal> lemme get the URL 19:12:15 <tjandrews> (looking for a way to make a thumbs-up emoji...) 19:12:26 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18992 19:12:27 <[mbot> Bug 18992: normal, Normal, pkg-bugs, NEW , M6 does not connect to my USB HP Envy 4502 printer/scanner, hplip 19:12:34 <tony_> lesyssmith: no , problem is identical to this poitn in M5 and its not been fixed 19:12:38 <DavidWHodgins> At this point, we are looking at whether the RC images are ready to go out for wider testing. Not looking at Mageia 6 final release yet 19:13:09 <lewyssmith> RC should mean just that, in my view. 19:13:11 <brian> mine gets into a permanent get to grub2 - reboot cycle. 19:13:12 <tony_> bug 15791 19:13:14 <[mbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15791 major, High, pterjan, REOPENED , RAID 0 can't add 5th partition 19:13:27 <brian> only if I do debug mode does it actually get to login 19:13:38 <wilcal> the auto log-in should work too 19:14:05 <wilcal> Plasma 5 is actually looking quite nice thank you 19:14:05 <lewyssmith> Is that specific to the display manager, oir for all of them? 19:14:14 <tarazed> wilcal: will have a look at my HP Envy and see if I can back that up. 19:14:37 <tmb> there are still some things to fix in installer... like selecting gnome or plasma on initial screen does not install all needed pacgages, but selecting the same DEs in custom view does 19:14:39 <lewyssmith> -4 i.e. auto-login 19:14:40 <tjandrews> Maybe it's just me, but it just seems like we still have a LOT of nagging bugs and niggles for the RC phase. 19:14:55 <wilcal> already someone sees the same thing. I don't think its printer specific 19:15:00 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19013 19:15:01 <[mbot> Bug 19013: normal, Normal, bugsquad, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, kontact & knotes update errors prevent M6 from updating., kontact-2:16.04.3-1.mga6.i586 knotes-2:16.04.3-1.mga6.i586 19:15:07 <tony_> Other than the RAID problems, its looking much cleaner than before, after a lot of work 19:15:09 <wilcal> filed this one today 19:15:41 <tmb> the autologin is a plasma thing... I'm working on fixing drakx to write proper autologin for sddm 19:16:21 <wilcal> btw I ran a complete scan with clamav and all the files look fine on x86_64 Plasma Live-DVD install 19:16:27 <tmb> then there is the password (shadow.lock) issue that needs fixing 19:17:02 <DavidWHodgins> I thought that was fixed already. Haven't checked though 19:17:12 <lewyssmith> How does that show? 19:17:16 <wilcal> so imo we are really starting to get into testing M6 not trying to get it to work/install at all 19:17:40 <tony_> :-) 19:18:13 <tmb> so next week tv comes back from vacation to hopefully review some of my fixes :) 19:18:15 <DavidWHodgins> We do need more upgrade testing, in my opinion 19:18:20 <tarazed> Up to a point. Live isos on nvidia are dead. 19:18:25 <wilcal> is the latest version of Plasma gonna be that Oct release? 19:18:32 <Bequimao> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17233 19:18:33 <[mbot> Bug 17233: normal, Normal, tmb, NEW , MGA6 plasma5 Live: No go with Plasma for older Radeon graphics 19:19:02 <Bequimao> I think it is valid for all Radeon graphic, not older ones 19:20:04 <lewyssmith> I need to try it, then. When I get time. 19:20:11 <brian> <shrug> - I'm running MGA6 on AMD APU now 19:20:12 <DavidWHodgins> Can we agree then, that Mageia 6 needs more testing and fixing before RC release? 19:20:19 <tmb> yeah, I have some fixups for sddm and prefdm queued 19:20:22 <lewyssmith> Certainly. 19:20:23 <brian> oh yes!!!!! 19:20:32 <tony_> Yes 19:20:32 <tmb> Yeah, RC is 1-2 weeks out 19:20:38 <LpSolit> no -sta2 meanwhile? 19:20:48 <DavidWHodgins> #info Mageia 6 needs more testing and fixing before RC release 19:20:51 <brian> I hate having to through debug grub2 option to get in 19:21:16 <DavidWHodgins> LpSolit: No. We skipped sta2 and went directly to RC. RC will be in qa testing for longer though. 19:21:31 <brian> what do you need to get an idea of why it goes to perpetual rebooting 19:21:58 <DavidWHodgins> brian: Which bug report is that? 19:22:14 <brian> not sure it is one yet. Wanted to find out if anyone is experiencing this? 19:22:37 <brian> both on i586 and 64 classic ISO installs 19:22:57 <tony_> brian: Not seen it 19:23:17 <tarazed> Hi RindolfA bug report would clarify things for us. 19:23:24 <brian> okay will post a bug. need dmesg dump? 19:24:07 <tarazed> brian: whatever you can get 19:24:28 <brian> k so journal and dmesg 19:24:29 <wilcal> back 19:24:37 <tjandrews> Sorry. We have zucchini on the stand and I had to go take care of a customer. I agree that the RC isn't ready yet. 19:24:51 <DavidWHodgins> brian: See if alt+ctrl+f2 will get to a text login to get the log files 19:25:20 <wilcal> or right ctrl+f2 for a vbox client 19:25:21 <brian> what I can do is go to debug mode for login and then Control-D and get in. Something weird since it works in text mode 19:25:29 <wilcal> kinda works most of the time 19:26:43 <DavidWHodgins> Make sure bug reports are opened for all issues found 19:27:05 <brian> will do - but I habit duplicates so wanted to check. Just got into that error today 19:27:39 <DavidWHodgins> Better to have a duplicate (that will be found) then not to report an issue 19:27:55 <DavidWHodgins> Do try to find existing bug reports first though 19:27:57 <brian> oh trust me, I'm a squeaky wheel 19:28:09 <brian> I do, just never use the right word to find it 19:28:14 <DavidWHodgins> :-) 19:28:18 <tjandrews> I gotta get back to work. Those weeds won't pull themselves, no matter how much I threaten them. 19:28:28 <wilcal> sell"em tj 19:28:30 <DavidWHodgins> tjandrews: Ok. Thanks 19:28:47 <lewyssmith> tjandrews: Yes, thanks for coming. 19:28:50 <rindolf> tjandrews: bye 19:28:51 <tony_> We'd be lost without farms to keep us alive 19:28:54 <tarazed> Bye tj 19:29:05 <DavidWHodgins> Let's move on then 19:29:06 <tjandrews> Bye... 19:29:08 <brian> yes I operonsally like eating 19:29:12 <wilcal> so bottom line here are we due some new m6 isos? 19:29:13 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Testing updates - Any difficulties, problems, issues? 19:29:25 <DavidWHodgins> wilcal: Yes, once more fixes are done 19:29:34 <wilcal> k thks 19:29:58 <DavidWHodgins> http://madb.mageiaorg/tools/updates 19:30:06 <lewyssmith> Bugs: alas, again the list is long... 19:30:08 <DavidWHodgins> http://madb.mageia.org/tools/updates 19:30:10 <[mbot> [ Mageia App Db - Current Update candidates ] 19:30:13 <brian> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18803 - did my best 19:30:15 <[mbot> Bug 18803: major, Normal, qa-bugs, NEW , apache-commons-fileupload, tomcat new security issue CVE-2016-3092, tomcat-8.0.32-1.mga6.src.rpm, apache-commons-fileupload-1.3.1-9.mga6.src.rpm 19:30:20 <brian> okay to pass that one to distrib 19:30:32 <brian> ?\ 19:30:35 <DavidWHodgins> Most are fairly new 19:31:12 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18991 19:31:13 <[mbot> Bug 18991: critical, Normal, qa-bugs, NEW , apache new security issue CVE-2016-5387, apache-2.4.10-16.3.mga5.src.rpm 19:31:28 <wilcal> looks to be just make sure it updates and works properly 19:32:29 <wilcal> i should get back to testing updates with the wait for isos now on 19:32:43 <DavidWHodgins> Yes. brian go ahead and add the MGA5-64-OK (or 32 if appropriate) to the whiteboard field 19:33:32 <brian> ok 19:33:35 <tarazed> I keep hitting problems with testing PoCs - framework for running them not obvious 19:33:49 <lewyssmith> The 2 VNC bugs await approval by the same expert: Christain. 19:34:02 <DavidWHodgins> For the vnc bugfix updates, that require apple/mac for proper testing, just ensure vnc update installs cleanly and wors 19:34:13 <DavidWHodgins> s /wors/works/ 19:34:21 <lewyssmith> No, Christian has done better. 19:34:47 <lewyssmith> Bug 18766 19:34:49 <[mbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18766 normal, Normal, qa-bugs, NEW , vnc plugin ignores keymap setting due to a simple typo in the source (needed when connecting to Mac, to have option key), remmina-1.0.0-14.mga5.src.rpm 19:34:57 <lewyssmith> Bug 18895 19:34:58 <[mbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18895 normal, Normal, qa-bugs, NEW , libvncserver without gcrypt support, required e.g. to connect to apple vnc (used by remmina), libvncserver-0.9.10-1.mga5.src.rpm 19:36:27 <DavidWHodgins> Ah. Ok. Hadn't read all of the comments, just that Christian had not responded to the last comment 19:37:25 <tarazed> bug 17536 is difficult/impossible 19:37:26 <[mbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17536 normal, Normal, qa-bugs, NEW , openjpeg2 new security issues CVE-2016-192[34], CVE-2016-318[1-3], and CVE-2016-479[67], openjpeg2-2.1.0-3.2.mga5.src.rpm 19:38:11 <lewyssmith> I still have a non-working Apache. I guess I should unintsall it --nodeps, tehn re-install it from issued repos & hope it works againNN. 19:38:35 <DavidWHodgins> brb 19:41:13 <tarazed> Morning Ben 19:41:14 <wilcal> in a wait right now for David 19:41:15 <lewyssmith> Hello Ben. We are on updates. 19:41:17 <Benmc> QA- good morning all 19:41:38 <wilcal> Morn'n Ben 19:41:46 <brian> HI Ben 19:42:34 <DavidWHodgins> back 19:42:34 <brian> DavidW stepped away - we're waiting for him 19:42:42 <Benmc> missed anyting juicy? 19:42:50 <lewyssmith> M6... 19:43:02 <Benmc> ill check the logs later 19:43:08 <DavidWHodgins> M6 needs more testing and fixing basically 19:43:09 <wilcal> always juicy new isos come'n 19:45:00 <DavidWHodgins> for bug 17536, add the feedback whiteboard entry. The file conflicts have to be fixed before the update can be accepted 19:45:02 <[mbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17536 normal, Normal, qa-bugs, NEW , openjpeg2 new security issues CVE-2016-192[34], CVE-2016-318[1-3], and CVE-2016-479[67], openjpeg2-2.1.0-3.2.mga5.src.rpm 19:45:27 <DavidWHodgins> Any other bugs that look scary? 19:45:41 <wilcal> looks managable 19:46:05 <DavidWHodgins> Ok. Moving on ... 19:46:09 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Luigi's roundup - Security news & expected updates 19:46:11 <rindolf> Benmc: hi. 19:46:23 <DavidWHodgins> ping Luigi12_work 19:46:28 <DavidWHodgins> ping Luigi12_lappy 19:46:39 <Benmc> rindolf: hiya 19:47:21 <Luigi12_work> DavidWHodgins: no, no feedback marker for openjpeg2. You shouldn't try to install openjpeg-devel and openjpeg2-devel at the same time. 19:47:39 <DavidWHodgins> Ah. Ok. I missed that 19:48:16 <lewyssmith> Luigi12_work: Hello David. 19:48:25 <Luigi12_work> ok, quite a busy week unfortunately 19:48:59 <Luigi12_work> libtiff has some security fixes upstream. I'd like for them to release a new version, but I've pulled current CVS and issued updates before. I might do that again if I feel like it. 19:49:44 <Luigi12_work> libxml2 released a new version, but I don't know if they fixed any of the outstanding security issues. RHEL does have patches for them though, but I don't know when I'll have time to try to rediff all of them. It'd really be nice if someone else could deal with it. 19:50:12 <Luigi12_work> I'm hoping to get to the glibc/libtirpc issue since that shouldn't be too difficult from what I saw when I first looked at it. 19:50:38 <Luigi12_work> really need someone to deal with nodejs (as well as several other packages of course) 19:50:42 <Luigi12_work> tmb is working on a kernel update 19:50:49 <tmb> ah, I forgot about glibc update :/ 19:51:04 <Luigi12_work> ahh, indeed 19:51:14 <Luigi12_work> tmb: bzip2 issue is assigned to you too 19:51:23 <Luigi12_work> tmb: oh and binutils 19:51:55 <DavidWHodgins> #info Updates needed for libtiff, libxml2, glibc/libtirpc, nodejs. kernel, bzip2, binutils updates too 19:51:57 <Luigi12_work> I got a freeze push request pending for python-django, php, and libidn, so those updates will go to mga5 after they're pushed 19:52:01 <rindolf> Luigi12_work: I can try helping. 19:52:07 <Luigi12_work> rindolf: cool, thanks 19:52:27 <Luigi12_work> shadow-utils had some security issues reported, patches are still being reviewd 19:52:42 <Luigi12_work> I'm thinking I might try to get a patch for the newest bind issue rather than updating it, we'll see 19:52:56 <Luigi12_work> ruby-eventmachine has a new security issue 19:53:01 <tmb> ok, I'll try to fix those security updates this week(end) 19:53:04 <tarazed> rindolf: good on you mate 19:53:15 <DavidWHodgins> #info Updates expected for python-django, php, libidn, shadow-utils, bind, ruby-eventmachine 19:53:22 <Luigi12_work> sudo has a new security issue, I know it's fixed in a newer version but I'd like to patch that too if possible. If not I'll have to update it at some point. 19:53:30 <DavidWHodgins> Wow. Going to be a busy week for testing updates 19:53:44 <lewyssmith> [Already is] 19:53:53 <Luigi12_work> java-1.8.0-openjdk needs an update again. RHEL released it already but when I checked yesterday, the update hadn't been checked into Fedora yet. 19:53:55 <brian> yes - will warm up my VM's 19:54:05 <Luigi12_work> chromium-browser-stable needs an update, filed that bug today 19:54:15 <Luigi12_work> mupdf has a security issue, but there's no fix for it yet AFAIK 19:54:25 <Luigi12_work> openssh has a security issue that I think only affects Cauldron 19:55:04 <Luigi12_work> tmb: there's a puppet security issue too (bug 18640) if you want to take a look at that one 19:55:05 <[mbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18640 normal, Normal, thierry.vignaud, NEW , puppet new security issue CVE-2016-2785, puppet-4.2.1-1.mga6.src.rpm 19:55:22 <Luigi12_work> still need another round of CVE fixes for qemu, as usual 19:55:38 <tmb> and I see virtualbox got 5.1.2 release that should hopefully fix current reported issues (sound and usb) according to changelog 19:55:40 <Luigi12_work> there's some java packages with security issues like tika, jetty, and qpid-proton-java 19:55:49 <Luigi12_work> tmb: ahh, that's great news 19:56:12 <DavidWHodgins> More updates for java-1.8.0-openjdk, chromium-browser-stable, mupdf, puppet, qemu, virtualbox, various java packages 19:56:18 <DavidWHodgins> #info More updates for java-1.8.0-openjdk, chromium-browser-stable, mupdf, puppet, qemu, virtualbox, various java packages 19:56:52 <Luigi12_work> so I'm trying to get $dayjob work done in time for my job to end (very soon), so I can't just spend all day on security updates right now, and I'd have to to keep up with all this myself 19:56:59 <Luigi12_work> I'm kind of drowning right now 19:57:04 <Luigi12_work> going on vacation first week of August 19:57:08 <Luigi12_work> then hopefully will find a job 19:57:11 <DavidWHodgins> Sounds like it. 19:57:34 <wilcal> job have'nt had one since 10 :-)) 19:57:34 <DavidWHodgins> We really need to have a security team rather then relying almost entirely on you 19:57:48 <lewyssmith> Totally agreed. 19:58:02 <wilcal> yup 19:58:14 <Luigi12_work> yeah because I probably won't be able to spend much time on Mageia after next week 19:58:28 <Luigi12_work> anyway, the up is round. I'm done. 19:58:35 <brian> need bodies with knowledge. Too bad couldn't get a college CS group to help 19:58:39 <marja> is it possible to let philippem get added to security team? He really wants to help 19:58:44 <DavidWHodgins> Thanks Luigi12_work 19:58:52 <marja> and it is hard to remember to CC him 19:59:09 <Luigi12_work> marja: we'll have to see with a sysadmin, we still need to get oden's e-mail out of the group too 19:59:24 <DavidWHodgins> Is there a security team ldap group? 19:59:28 <marja> Luigi12_work: there's a sysadmin present :-) 19:59:33 <marja> tmb: ? 19:59:34 <tmb> that should be a quick fix 19:59:42 <marja> tmb: thx 20:00:34 <DavidWHodgins> Ah. security@group.mageia.org 20:01:31 <tmb> oden dropped from and philippem added to security 20:01:38 <Luigi12_work> cool, thanks 20:01:39 <marja> tmb: great 20:02:20 <marja> tmb: how long does it take to show here? http://people.mageia.org/g/mga-security.html 20:02:22 <[mbot> [ people.mageia.org: g/mga-security ] 20:02:37 <DavidWHodgins> marja: Normally about 10 minutes 20:02:44 <marja> DavidWHodgins: thx 20:04:05 <wilcal> time for anything else i think 20:04:08 <DavidWHodgins> That only leaves ... 20:04:11 <DavidWHodgins> #topic * Anything else? 20:04:15 <lewyssmith> Only that I must apologise for currently doing very little. I have more outdooor things to do than I can cope with, but am slowly catching up. TJ would understand. 20:04:40 <tarazed> Me too. Submerged sometimes. 20:04:43 <DavidWHodgins> Thanks for the time you do put in. Every bit helps 20:04:49 <wilcal> any help is great help 20:05:19 <brian> ditto. I'll do another reboot series and then post a bug with the journal 20:05:31 <wilcal> nothing else from me 20:05:33 <LpSolit> shouldn't https://blog.mageia.org/fr/ mention that sta1 is available, to get more testers? 20:05:34 <tarazed> We should give a big thank-you to DavidW for his outstanding contributions. 20:05:34 <[mbot> [ Mageia Blog (Français) | La distribution Linux communautaire ] 20:05:50 <LpSolit> it's available in the english blog 20:06:04 <brian> definitely - thanks to all 20:07:04 <marja> I thought the blog usually gets translated fast into French 20:07:09 <lewyssmith> tarazed: More than justified, Len. I think he is *just* still with us. 20:07:15 <DavidWHodgins> Yes, the blog entries should be translated. I forget whether that should be atellier or i18n that handles it 20:07:44 <marja> papoteur_: you know more about the French blog than me ... see LpSolit's question, 2 minutes ago 20:08:57 <DavidWHodgins> marja: Can you follow up on getting the french blog entry added? 20:10:13 <DavidWHodgins> Anything else before closing the meeting 20:10:23 <marja> DavidWHodgins: LpSolit: I see translation is in progress https://mensuel.framapad.org/p/mga-blog-fr-6sta1 20:10:24 <[mbot> [ Framapad mensuel ] 20:10:39 <lewyssmith> Not here. 20:10:39 <DavidWHodgins> Great. Thanks 20:11:00 <marja> or it's ready, but just needs to be posted? 20:11:16 <marja> Akien: do you know whether https://mensuel.framapad.org/p/mga-blog-fr-6sta1 is ready to be posted? 20:11:17 <[mbot> [ Framapad mensuel ] 20:11:57 <Akien> marja: yeah, was finished yesterday I think 20:12:10 <marja> Akien: do you mind posting it? :-) 20:12:45 <Akien> When I have some time I will, probably tomorrow morning 20:12:56 <DavidWHodgins> Akien: Thanks 20:13:14 <DavidWHodgins> Countdown time then unless anyone has anything else 20:13:18 <lewyssmith> DavidWHodgins: Thanks Dave for chairing; and to all others who showed up. Goodbye to all. 20:13:19 <DavidWHodgins> t - 5 20:13:20 <wilcal> bye all 20:13:25 <DavidWHodgins> 4 20:13:29 <DavidWHodgins> 3 20:13:32 <DavidWHodgins> 2 20:13:34 <marja> bye all who are leaving 20:13:36 <DavidWHodgins> 1 20:13:39 <tarazed> Bon soir 20:13:52 <DavidWHodgins> Thanks everyone for attending 20:13:57 <DavidWHodgins> #endmeeting