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19:02:29 <wilcal> OOooo it worked
19:02:41 <wilcal> #topic Who's new?
19:02:56 <wilcal> #chair lewyssmith
19:02:56 <Inigo_Montoya> Current chairs: lewyssmith wilcal
19:03:24 <lewyssmith> tarazed: Good evening Len.
19:03:31 <wilcal> Anyone in here that's new?
19:03:38 <tarazed> Hi Lewis and everyone
19:03:51 <wilcal> hello tarazed
19:03:57 <brian____> Greetings tarazed
19:03:59 <zvonimir> hi there :)
19:04:10 <wilcal> nobody new i think
19:04:11 <tarazed> somebody new?
19:04:17 <zvonimir> I'm new-ish
19:04:20 <lewyssmith> zvonimir: Are *you* new?
19:04:37 <wilcal> hello zvon
19:04:39 <lewyssmith> Sorry - already admitted!
19:04:51 <zvonimir> I did some testing a while ago, but it may be a couple of years since
19:04:54 <tarazed> Welcome zvon
19:05:13 <lewyssmith> zvonimir: Say a brief word about yourself.
19:05:15 <wilcal> you are very welcome here any testing and contribution is very appreciated
19:05:33 <zvonimir> MrsB and rindolf sound familiar :)
19:05:47 <zvonimir> it's nice to meet all of you too :)
19:05:54 <rindolf> zvonimir: welcome aboard
19:05:59 <brian____> zvon:  welcome
19:06:59 <zvonimir> I'm originally from Croatia, living in Canada atm, finished computer science a couple of years ago, have been using Mageia since it came out, before that Mandriva, before that Mandrake :)
19:07:16 <lewyssmith> Like many of us!
19:07:24 <wilcal> Mandrake veterans are very welcome here
19:07:25 <zvonimir> if there's anything else you'd like to know, please feel free to ask :)
19:07:31 <brian____> Mandriva was my first first Linux
19:07:32 <wilcal> "wilcal" for (Wil)liam in (Cal)ifornia, live near San Diego ( Surf City USA )
19:07:34 <wilcal> First official College computer class in Sept 1964, Computer Engineer 1968
19:07:52 <rindolf> brian____: my first Linux was an early Slackware.
19:09:08 <lewyssmith> zvonimir: We have a system of mentors for new people, to help them find their way. Would you like one?
19:09:09 <brian____> :-)
19:09:43 <wilcal> David ususally here also is a Canadian
19:09:44 <zvonimir> lewyssmith: that'd be great :)
19:09:57 <wilcal> Easter Canada
19:10:00 <wilcal> eastern
19:10:15 <zvonimir> wilcal: me too, I'm in Ottawa
19:10:34 <lewyssmith> Dave would be ideal, but is often under the weather. I can do it for starters.
19:10:35 <wilcal> We should try to hook you up with a fellow kanuk
19:11:00 <zvonimir> :D
19:11:10 <zvonimir> lewyssmith: works for me :)
19:11:39 <lewyssmith> I will need an e-mail address, unless you can find mine from a bug ets.
19:11:47 <lewyssmith> etc
19:12:28 <wilcal> ok folks on to a spirited debate/discussion
19:12:29 <zvonimir> I've sent it to you, I also added it to the wiki
19:12:33 <wilcal> #topic Mageia 6
19:12:49 <lewyssmith> zvonimir: Thanks, & speedy with it!
19:12:55 <wilcal> I'd like to post where I'm at with M6 and we'll go from there
19:13:04 <lewyssmith> Off you go.
19:13:11 <wilcal> M6 all four Live-DVD media, Plasma & Gnome, i586 & x86_64, as Vbox clients boot to working desktops
19:13:13 <wilcal> M6 i586 Vbox clients, Plasma & Gnome, installed cleanly with the latest CI's and are updating with no problems
19:13:14 <wilcal> M6 x86_64 Vbox clients, Plasma & Gnome, installed cleanly with the latest CI's but neither boot to a working desktop for a variety of reasons
19:13:16 <wilcal> Do we have a common problem here and what should we call the bug(s)? I've raised this nebulous bug:
19:13:17 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18755
19:13:18 <[mbot> Bug 18755: normal, Normal, bugsquad, NEW , Gnome Live-DVD  fails to boot after installation, ?
19:13:19 <wilcal> M6 x86_64 Plasma on real ( nvidia ) hardware installed cleanly with the latest CI, I've installed lots of apps, and it's updating nicely
19:13:20 <wilcal> M6 all Plasma, I have raised a bug out of concern as it is my experience that Plasma desktop configuration is nearly impossible to do:
19:13:22 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18764
19:13:23 <[mbot> Bug 18764: normal, Normal, mageia, NEW , Plasma desktop icons and placement are very difficult to deal with, plasma-desktop?
19:13:23 <wilcal> All take a look at all that
19:14:45 <wilcal> The Plasma x86_64 install on real hardware is pretty stable except for 18764
19:14:51 <tarazed> Hoping that I have better luck with the new live isos.  bug 18517 stops classic working.
19:14:52 <[mbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18517 major, Normal, tmb, NEW , 6sta1 monitor access failure in stage 1 install of Live iso
19:15:21 <wilcal> If I could go back to the Classic KDE 4 I would be a happy guy
19:15:38 <lewyssmith> I have only tried the Classic so far, so need to attack the Lives now that they basically work.
19:16:14 <tarazed> Does nobody else have trouble with graphics driver on classic iso (nvidia)?
19:16:16 <wilcal> back to tmb is there a common problem here
19:16:37 <wilcal> I have to tease the nvidia install
19:17:01 <tarazed> Me too but I always lose the monitor.
19:17:06 <wilcal> install then go to the MCC and do the grahical install
19:17:11 <lewyssmith> We cannot have that for final release.
19:17:40 <wilcal> there are some really major issues with M6 right now but the latest isos got me some working installs
19:17:43 <tarazed> Once I lose the monitor I cannot even boot to a desktop.
19:17:54 <tmb> well, we need to get a -sta1 out first before thinking of final :)
19:18:15 <wilcal> is there a common issue to all these problems?
19:18:39 <tarazed> dkms sometimes throws error 10
19:19:48 <tmb> well the plasma vs kde4 is not a bug, its a simple fact of life that kde4 is dead and plasma is the replacement... just like the gnome2 -> gnome3 change way back...
19:21:14 <wilcal> so we have big issues with it
19:21:27 <wilcal> especially during install?
19:21:46 <wilcal> i586 seems to be fine. x86_64 in Vbox is DOA
19:22:11 <tmb> anyway, for live medias... I uploaded new isos ~30 minutes ago, but seems my isp mailserver has broken down as no mail goes out for now...
19:22:34 <wilcal> super I have an open weekend
19:22:50 <rindolf> tmb: you can try using a webmail provider.
19:22:58 <tmb> the live medias now have new kernel, mesa, and all needed drakx fixes to complete a full install including grub2
19:23:25 <wilcal> will this get the x86_64 installs in Vbox working?
19:23:27 <tmb> rindolf, I dont use webmai as such ... I want smtp access
19:24:02 <tmb> wilcal, all 4 isos tested here with boot, install, reboot into working desktop
19:24:12 <wilcal> in Vbox?
19:25:12 <tmb> but they still boot in english as I havent find a nice way to get it done... what works in Gnome does not work on plasma and so on... I have some ideas but they will take some time for me to try
19:25:20 <tmb> wilcal, in vbox yes
19:25:34 <wilcal> many thanks tmb that will be a big help
19:26:12 <rindolf> tmb: thanks!
19:26:31 <wilcal> interesting Gnome seems more mature here then KDE/Plasma
19:27:16 <tmb> one thing that will get some people with live medias is that since they dont contain prebuilt non-free drivers anymoe there can be some issues with new hw... but that we just have to live with
19:27:44 <wilcal> do note:
19:27:46 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18764
19:27:47 <[mbot> Bug 18764: normal, Normal, mageia, NEW , Plasma desktop icons and placement are very difficult to deal with, plasma-desktop?
19:27:48 <brian____> not good from a user experience.
19:27:54 <brian____> but - legal is legal
19:28:16 <wilcal> hard to position and size icons on Plasma desktop. Very frustratiing
19:28:28 <tmb> brian____, yeah, and we still provide the drivers and the installer knows how to install  configure when needed
19:28:41 <wilcal> If it went the way it is now IMO it would be bad for Mageia
19:28:53 <wilcal> it does not play well at all
19:29:09 <wilcal> at least it works now
19:29:22 <wilcal> any other thoughts on M6?
19:29:25 <brian____> so time for me to do a dorsync and try m6 again?
19:29:34 <tmb> wilcal, yeah, but that is an upstream plasma issue / design decision, not out bug ... nothing we can do..
19:30:01 <brian____> wilcal:  did you try messing with that in OpenSuse?
19:30:01 <wilcal> resizing and placing an icon is horrible
19:30:12 <lewyssmith> wilcal: Bill: can you delete an icon & re-instate it as you want?
19:30:24 <tarazed> tmb: Are the  driver modules built on the fly substantially different from the earlier prebuilt nvidia modules?
19:30:46 <wilcal> I've dabbled a little with other Plasma distros but up until now ours had major issues
19:31:14 <brian____> I'm thinking just a confirm it is definitely an upstream limit and not "our" choices
19:31:17 <wilcal> the drag resize is really difficult
19:31:22 <tmb> tarazed, no, it's the exactly same procedure ... before it built on the buildsystem, now it builds on end-user system
19:32:04 <tarazed> So it is the different hardware that could cause problems.  Thanks.
19:32:58 <brian____> the nvidia stuff would make a good article discussion in the general blog.  Very confusing
19:33:39 <tmb> wilcal, I know neoclust is working on a plasma update, but we didnt want to hold -sta1 just for that... since we cant guarantee it helps or break more....
19:34:11 <Bequimao> resizising and placing an icon work in openSUSE.
19:34:11 <wilcal> i agree. the big news here is i have something(s) up and running now
19:34:46 <wilcal> thks Beq. Do compare it to how ours work and comment that in:
19:35:00 <brian____> I'll dorsync tonight
19:35:00 <tmb> yep, we really need -sta1 to go out to get wider coverage and hopefully more ideas of fixes
19:35:09 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18764
19:35:10 <[mbot> Bug 18764: normal, Normal, mageia, NEW , Plasma desktop icons and placement are very difficult to deal with, plasma-desktop?
19:35:33 <Bequimao> just click on the icon with left mouse and hold it for a second. Should work in Mag 6 also.
19:35:42 <wilcal> if these new live isos work as you say I say release -sta1
19:36:37 <lewyssmith> wilcal: Have you noted what Bequimao said?
19:37:14 <wilcal> it's not so much that it works like that it's just more sensitive then what we have in KDE 4
19:37:38 <wilcal> you have to experience it ffor yourself. Place resize and move icons on Plasma desktop
19:37:59 <lewyssmith> It is not to us to define how Plasma could/should behave, alas.
19:38:05 <wilcal> you cannot rename them like you can in 4
19:38:35 <tmb> btw, can any of you mail to qa-discuss about new live medias... seems I cant even tunnel smtp over ssh... I really need to get my isp to fix the routing firewall they have...
19:38:55 <wilcal> will do
19:39:04 <tarazed> Sure thing.
19:39:41 <Bequimao> It is is also possible to configure as is was in KDE 4.
19:40:03 <lewyssmith> Can we move on to Bugs now?
19:40:25 <wilcal> yup
19:40:39 <lewyssmith> #topic Updates
19:41:02 <wilcal> I have another post here on a serious issue. thank you for being here tmb
19:41:20 <wilcal> David and I ( many thanks David ) have been working a pretty serious bug with M5:
19:41:21 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18724
19:41:23 <[mbot> Bug 18724: normal, Normal, tmb, NEW , After today's update M5 x86_64 KDE Vbox client would not boot, virtualbox
19:41:23 <wilcal> I think David may have had a better experience with a work around but IMO this one's a show stopper.
19:41:24 <wilcal> I'm suprised we haven't heard a blizzard of complaints from the field over this. We need to find a work around
19:41:26 <wilcal> ASAP then a fix. At this time I am unable to do any Vbox testing with M5 because of this bug. M6 does not
19:41:27 <wilcal> seem to be effected.
19:41:44 <Bequimao> Bug 18764. I will comment how to deal with it.
19:41:45 <[mbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18764 normal, Normal, mageia, NEW , Plasma desktop icons and placement are very difficult to deal with, plasma-desktop?
19:41:45 <wilcal> so I/we cannot run an updated M5 Client in Vbox anymore
19:42:00 <wilcal> really not a good thing
19:42:08 <wilcal> any thoughts tmb?
19:42:20 <wilcal> what happened heree
19:42:32 <tmb> Well I cant reproduce the vbox issue... it all works for me on all vms :/
19:42:33 <wilcal> opps sorry
19:42:57 <Luigi12_work> with 4.4.13 and 5.0.22 on guest and host?
19:43:02 <wilcal> Vbox seems ok as it runs M6 just fine
19:43:05 <tmb> yep
19:43:09 <Luigi12_work> ::facepalm::
19:43:18 <Luigi12_work> and it worked fine for me too when I tried it the first time
19:43:21 <Luigi12_work> ever since then, no good
19:43:28 <wilcal> 4.4.13
19:43:39 <tmb> are you using 3d acceleration or not ? how much display memory ?
19:43:48 <wilcal> so you see the same thing luigi?
19:44:00 <wilcal> yes accel on the Host
19:44:06 <wilcal> 128MB
19:44:14 <wilcal> i wish dave was here
19:44:15 <Luigi12_work> VM at work has 3d accel unchecked, 2d accel unchecked, 64MB video RAM
19:44:33 <Luigi12_work> can check the VM at home late tomorrow
19:44:58 <wilcal> I'm suprised some company using Mageia hasn't really complained
19:45:09 <wilcal> Your M5 Vbox client(s) are toast
19:45:18 <tmb> what gpu driver on host ? free / proprietary / nvidia / fglrx / ...
19:45:25 <wilcal> nvidia
19:45:28 <Luigi12_work> both hosts are radeon (free)
19:45:51 <wilcal> why would M6 be fine and M5 not?
19:46:06 <Luigi12_work> I can't speak to that, I don't have any mga6 vbox guests yet
19:46:18 <Luigi12_work> and it could be random luck of the draw that it works on yours
19:46:37 <tmb> does it change anything if you use kernel 4.4.13-2 on guest and host ?
19:46:52 <Luigi12_work> haven't tried that
19:47:10 <wilcal> my test Client that broke I'm pretty sure was 4.4.13
19:47:27 <Luigi12_work> 4.4.13-2 is a new build in updates_testing as of today
19:47:31 <wilcal> anyway most important here is others are seeing the same thing
19:47:33 <tmb> I just wonder if the core drm fix is affecting more than the commit message points out...
19:47:47 <wilcal> really curbs my M5 testing
19:48:30 <brian____> I'm still up so far on VM's but with Radeon hardware.  Very cautious about upgrading VBox
19:48:44 <tmb> also try to remove any "vga=" "splash" "silent" ... stuff to see if the bug comes from the that
19:48:47 <brian____> did have to disable 2d/3d hardware acceleration a long time ago
19:48:55 <wilcal> ya i lost all of my M5 clients :-((
19:50:28 <tmb> wilcal, so you are using nvidia-current on the host ?
19:50:29 <brian____> I assume a restore from an old export doesn't work either  :-(
19:50:36 <Luigi12_work> tmb: yeah I thought of removing vga, I should try that
19:51:00 <wilcal> i'll leave it to you guys to work on this
19:51:11 <lewyssmith> The updates list has mushroomed again, but the real stoppers are Bugs 18433 and 18540.
19:51:18 <tmb> it could be plymouth silenly messing up hw too... it wouldnt be the first time
19:51:44 <Benmc> qa- good morning
19:51:46 <Luigi12_work> tmb: no dice, removing vga= doesn't help
19:52:00 <wilcal> yes I see that during the failed M5 Vbox boots
19:52:35 <brian____> benmc:  good morning
19:52:47 <tmb> Luigi12_work, have you tested removing xorg.conf ? if it works then, what driver took over ?
19:52:48 <lewyssmith> Benmc: Hello Ben.
19:52:54 <wilcal> yes tmb nvidia on the host
19:53:06 <Luigi12_work> tmb: yes it works if you remove it if you have x11-driver-video-modesetting installed
19:53:39 <Luigi12_work> at least on my VM at work
19:53:40 <wilcal> ya David and I played a lot around with the xorg.conf thingy to no avail
19:53:43 <tmb> also are you guys using the last 5.0.22-1.1 virtualbox build ?
19:53:53 <Luigi12_work> tmb: yes (at work)
19:53:58 <MrsB> Morning :)
19:54:10 <lewyssmith> Hello Claire.
19:54:13 <rindolf> MrsB: morning!
19:54:13 <wilcal> Hello MrsB you came in here at the right tiime
19:54:28 <MrsB> uh ohh !
19:54:38 <wilcal> we are discussing:
19:54:40 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18724
19:54:41 <[mbot> Bug 18724: normal, Normal, tmb, NEW , After today's update M5 x86_64 KDE Vbox client would not boot, virtualbox
19:54:41 <MrsB> sorry to miss so much :(
19:54:58 <wilcal> a very serious problem
19:54:59 <tmb> damn... what happends if you boot with forced "xdriver=vboxvideo"... does it change anything ?
19:55:28 <wilcal> please put all those thoughts into the bug so Dave and I can tinker around
19:56:00 <Luigi12_work> tmb: xdriver=vboxvideo, no dice either
19:56:12 <wilcal> back to why M6 works and M5 don't???????
19:56:24 <Luigi12_work> wilcal: could just be random luck, even M5 has worked sometimes
19:56:51 <wilcal> so you think M6 is also effected by this?
19:56:53 <tmb> wilcal, and m6 has new kernel, new mesa, new xorg, new just about everything...
19:56:57 <Luigi12_work> or could be a vbox regression w.r.t. the 4.4 kernel, who knows
19:57:00 <wilcal> Ahhhhhh
19:57:01 <Luigi12_work> wilcal: can't say until I try it
19:57:35 <wilcal> I fear someone using Mageia with a Corporate important Vbox client then updates it then it's bricked
19:57:36 <tmb> if you drop back to 4.1.15 kernel and install dkms-virtualbox on the host ... does it work then ?
19:58:03 <tarazed> Good morning Claire
19:58:12 <MrsB> o/
19:58:18 <rindolf> An M5 VM boots fine here after the latest updates, but has no stretchable screen - only the small one.
19:58:22 <Luigi12_work> tmb: that's too much to try right now :o)
19:58:39 <tmb> that should point out kernel side problem or not
19:58:41 <Luigi12_work> rindolf: you're probably using modesetting then
19:59:20 <wilcal> i deleted the modesetting from the x11 config file and that didn't help
20:00:42 <Luigi12_work> no you didn't
20:00:46 <Luigi12_work> you deleted the modelines
20:00:54 <wilcal> For me Vbox is an important tool for testing bugs and updates and right now I can't use it for M5
20:01:02 <wilcal> yes
20:01:14 <MrsB> different thing
20:01:20 <Luigi12_work> you can use it, but you'd have to revert the guest to 5.0.16
20:01:21 <wilcal> ahhh
20:02:17 <wilcal> i don't mind a complete install of the host system i just need to get back my Vbox M5
20:03:44 <tmb> wilcal, you dont need a re-install... just downgrade virtualbox
20:03:54 <wilcal> I think I've raised enough stress over this
20:04:45 <wilcal> I'll let you folks tinker with this over the next few day. Please comment in the bug. I will concentrate on the new M6 isos
20:04:49 <MrsB> I haven't followed this bug. Is it the guest or both guest and host which need downgrading?
20:04:59 <Luigi12_work> probably just the guest
20:05:14 <Luigi12_work> other distros work fine
20:05:35 <wilcal> ya my Win7 & XP and M6 work just fine
20:05:43 <wilcal> clents
20:05:48 <MrsB> other distros use packaged version of additions?
20:05:49 <wilcal> with the new Vbix
20:05:55 <Luigi12_work> Ubuntu 14 LTS, OpenSuSE 13.2, and PC-BSD also work
20:06:06 <Luigi12_work> MrsB: the three I just mentioned have older additions packaged
20:06:38 <Luigi12_work> Fedora and Solaris 10 I had to manually install the additions, but I haven't tested X in those recently
20:06:58 <MrsB> Might be interesting to do so
20:07:03 <Luigi12_work> yeah
20:07:12 <Luigi12_work> I can try that after the meeting
20:07:21 <MrsB> I'll try and tinker with this tmrw. Struggling atm :\
20:07:27 <lewyssmith> Back to other bugs? Reminder: bug 18433 is proving beyond our ken.
20:07:28 <[mbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18433 major, Normal, qa-bugs, NEW , Missing AskPass prevents SSH cloning, tortoisehg-3.2.1-1.mga5
20:08:01 <lewyssmith> Bug 18540 has also been too much for us, but Philippe has mercifully tested it OK.
20:08:02 <[mbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18540 normal, Normal, qa-bugs, NEW , [PATCH] gitpython fails on gpg signed commits, python-gitpython-0.3.1-9.mga5.src.rpm
20:08:20 <MrsB> Philippe added a simple procedure for tortoisehg
20:08:31 <wilcal> ya other bugs please :-(
20:08:45 <MrsB> or was it gitpython he did thta for
20:09:24 <tarazed> I'll try to get around to bug 18598
20:09:26 <[mbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18598 normal, Normal, qa-bugs, ASSIGNED , imagemagick new security issue CVE-2016-5118, imagemagick-6.9.4.5-1.mga6.src.rpm
20:09:56 <lewyssmith> The list has mushroomed again.
20:10:00 <MrsB> tortoisehg has been confirmed fixed by the reporter so just a simple test will do
20:10:28 <wilcal> ya and with M5 clients broken that ain't good
20:10:29 <MrsB> gitpython has a nice procedure now
20:10:45 <MrsB> can be tested on hardware too wilcal
20:10:57 <wilcal> just takes a lot more time here
20:11:30 <wilcal> i don't wanna talk about that one anymore :-(
20:11:34 <wilcal> "graphicsmagick new security issues" - Has this been resolved?
20:11:35 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17714
20:11:36 <[mbot> Bug 17714: normal, Normal, qa-bugs, NEW , graphicsmagick new security issues CVE-2015-8808, CVE-2016-2317, CVE-2016-2318, CVE-2016-5118, CVE-2016-524[01], graphicsmagick-1.3.20-4.mga5.src.rpm
20:11:42 <MrsB> imagemagick we'll have to test each application listed works ok, but it shouldn't be too difficult
20:12:32 <MrsB> tarazed: you use vdr?
20:13:01 <lewyssmith> VDR?
20:13:16 <tarazed> Not even sure what it is!
20:13:18 <MrsB> for the imagemagick bug, there are a couple of skins
20:13:34 <MrsB> it's a tv card thing
20:14:00 <tarazed> OK, will check it out.
20:14:23 * treegazer noticed this evening during installing Mageia-6-sta1-x86_64-DVD.iso  that firewall is still disabled at the post-install phase (after installing packages)
20:14:26 <MrsB> I've used it in the past but no card now to play with
20:15:32 <MrsB> that needs a bug please treegazer and adding to the mga6 blockers tracker. It may even be reported already, it's been that way a while
20:15:39 <tarazed> MrsB: I have a PCTV namostick DVB-T2
20:15:39 <tmb> treegazer, that is fixed in drax git ... itäs just not listing services correctly
20:15:42 <wilcal> wow TV cards are really passé
20:15:52 <tarazed> nanostick
20:16:08 <MrsB> great, that can be for you two to test between you then please :)
20:16:19 <MrsB> it's only a couple of skins so nothing major
20:17:31 <Luigi12_work> yes imagemagick and graphicsmagick are ready to test, all needed rebuilds have been done
20:18:45 <wilcal> anything else?
20:19:14 <wilcal> A lot of discussion on qa-discuss concerning grub2 issues. Is there an official bug and how serious is this?
20:19:47 <MrsB> discussion != bug but Ben reported UEFI issues which should be fixed before sta1 release IMHO
20:20:06 <lewyssmith> That is M6.
20:20:13 <MrsB> yeah
20:20:28 <wilcal> ya i think so so new isos available now
20:21:04 <MrsB> Benmc: did you create a bug for that?
20:21:48 <MrsB> maybe not around yet
20:22:41 <MrsB> Let's move on then guys shall we?
20:22:47 <wilcal> please
20:23:00 <wilcal> #topic Luigi's Roundup
20:23:08 <brian____> hot dog
20:23:33 <MrsB> is it just me or is you ___ longer today Brian?
20:24:07 <MrsB> Luigi12_work: ping :)
20:24:10 <Benmc> MrsB: yes, https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18770
20:24:11 <Luigi12_work> oof
20:24:11 <[mbot> Bug 18770: normal, release_blocker, thierry.vignaud, ASSIGNED , [6sta1] grub2-install fails on GPT HDD when OS & BIOS boot part are another GPT disk (!UEFI case)
20:24:18 <MrsB> ahh cool thanks
20:24:32 <Luigi12_work> really need a lot of packager involvement with security updates
20:25:00 <Benmc> (sorry, just got back from an outcall)
20:25:20 <Luigi12_work> uglify-js was stalled after someone gave up on working on it
20:25:29 <Luigi12_work> Thunderbird is stalled
20:25:38 <Luigi12_work> ocaml hasn't been addressed yet
20:25:41 <MrsB> let's add some infos then :)
20:25:55 <Luigi12_work> nodejs needs updates in Cauldron and Mageia 5
20:25:59 <MrsB> #info Packager input badly needed for sec updates!
20:26:08 <Luigi12_work> libxml2 has a ton of security issues, need packager work there
20:26:20 <Luigi12_work> qemu of course has a new long list of CVEs as usual
20:26:21 <tmb> yeah, I will look into thunderbird issues this weekend
20:26:38 <MrsB> #info uglify-js, thunderbird, ocaml, nodejs, libxml2, qemu
20:26:48 <Luigi12_work> got some java crap like jenkins, tika, pdfbox, jetty that needs addressed
20:26:48 <brian____> my ____ is longer MrsB: sorry looked away
20:26:59 <Luigi12_work> I need to update webkit2 again
20:27:13 <MrsB> #info various java packages too
20:27:15 <Luigi12_work> libtorrent-rasterbar needs a patch
20:27:15 <brian____> running an antique today for fun
20:27:19 <Luigi12_work> puppet needs an update
20:27:24 <Luigi12_work> spice needs a patch
20:27:29 <Luigi12_work> libtirpc needs a patch
20:27:33 <Luigi12_work> wget needs a patch
20:27:38 <Luigi12_work> sogo needs a patch or update (Cauldron only)
20:27:43 <Luigi12_work> bzip2 needs a patch
20:27:46 <Luigi12_work> iperf needs a patch
20:27:51 <MrsB> #info libtorrent-rasterbar, puppet, spice, libtipc, wget, sogo, bzip2, iperf
20:27:52 <Luigi12_work> ctdb needs some patches
20:28:10 <brian____> my eyes hurt
20:28:14 <Luigi12_work> I'll have a PHP update coming hopefully within the next week (waiting for libgd upstream update)
20:28:25 <MrsB> #info ctdb too
20:28:35 <Luigi12_work> struts has a security update that hasn't been assigned to QA (needs an advisory I guess)
20:29:06 <Luigi12_work> I can't keep doing everything.  I'm out of this job in 5 weeks and then won't have much time anymore.
20:29:14 <MrsB> #info Updates coming to QA soon.. php, struts
20:29:31 <Luigi12_work> guess that's it for now
20:29:32 <MrsB> yeah, what's happening with philippem ?
20:29:44 <Luigi12_work> dunno
20:30:00 <MrsB> he volunteered to help out, needs apprenticizing
20:30:13 <Luigi12_work> a few packagers seem to have the process figured out
20:30:27 <Luigi12_work> most need help, be it with patches, advisories, package lists, procedures, something
20:30:38 <MrsB> you'll have to train him up
20:30:45 <Luigi12_work> most important thing is to at least try
20:31:27 <MrsB> Akien: ennael ^^^
20:32:19 <MrsB> not in tonight
20:32:36 <wilcal> anything else?
20:32:39 <MrsB> thanks then Luigi12_work
20:32:57 <MrsB> could be a few updates coming our way soon ..
20:33:04 <lewyssmith> What a lot he forsees.
20:33:05 <wilcal> that brings us to:
20:33:09 <wilcal> #topic Anything Else?
20:33:18 <lewyssmith> Not here.
20:33:27 <wilcal> do try the new isos
20:33:30 <brian____> nothing here
20:33:59 <wilcal> do comment in the Vbox/M5 bug anything/thoughts help
20:34:48 <MrsB> thanks for being here then guys and sorry to not be around much lately :\
20:34:55 <MrsB> ready wilcal?
20:35:00 <wilcal> you did super MrsB
20:35:02 <MrsB> T - 5
20:35:06 <MrsB> 4
20:35:08 <MrsB> 3
20:35:08 <lewyssmith> Goodbye everyone.
20:35:09 <MrsB> 2
20:35:11 <MrsB> 1
20:35:18 <tarazed> Bye y'all
20:35:20 <wilcal> #endmeeting