19:02:07 <wilcal> #startmeeting
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19:02:20 <wilcal> #chair lewyssmith
19:02:20 <Inigo_Montoya> Current chairs: lewyssmith wilcal
19:02:37 <lewyssmith> #topic Anybody new here? If so, introduce yourself.
19:03:37 <wilcal> Bequimao you new here? I don't remember
19:03:51 <wilcal> hello tmb
19:03:57 <lewyssmith> [Welcome tmb]
19:04:16 <neoclust> tmb: \o/
19:04:18 <neoclust> tmb: hello
19:04:33 <lewyssmith> Move on?
19:04:37 <rindolf> tmb: hi.
19:05:03 <tmb> hi all
19:05:22 <wilcal> the room is fill'n up :-))
19:05:35 <lewyssmith> #topic Mageia 6
19:05:57 <wilcal> I poke at that at least 1x per day. Just posted another bug
19:06:16 <lewyssmith> It is greatly improved lately.
19:06:17 <wilcal> how's everyone do'n?
19:06:36 <wilcal> at the least I can easily get to a working desktop
19:06:51 <wilcal> updating Vbox clients too
19:06:56 <wilcal> that's pretty nice
19:07:07 <lewyssmith> I have only installed Classic. Too many updates to play with that.
19:07:38 <wilcal> boot.iso still won't install in a Vbox client :-(
19:07:41 <rindolf> wilcal: well, my long standing bug with firefox not playing some .webm/YouTube videos still happens.
19:08:31 <wilcal> I wish we could figure out what this is:
19:08:33 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18207
19:08:34 <[mbot> Bug 18207: normal, Normal, mageia, REOPENED , Opening a .txt document shifts the desktop left and off the table
19:09:09 <wilcal> A CI install is fine. It exists on all of the Plasma live media. Any idea tmb?
19:09:51 <lewyssmith> Even after re-boot into the installed system?
19:10:13 <wilcal> Ya it's very unerving
19:10:48 <wilcal> ya can't set your desktop up the way you want. Open a txt file  and it all get swept away
19:11:26 <lewyssmith> Wierd!
19:11:26 <wilcal> never to return
19:11:52 <wilcal> easy to see using either the i586 or x86_64 Plasma Live media
19:12:31 <wilcal> simply open it to the desktop, create or put a .txt file in Documents and click open that text file
19:13:02 <wilcal> everything shifts left and off the table
19:13:18 <wilcal> never to return
19:13:43 <lewyssmith> Individual oddities apart, the ISOs have yielded mostly good feedback. Even the latest Lives.
19:13:53 <wilcal> the auto reboot to a working desktop still does not work
19:14:26 <wilcal> I suggest just keep look'n at things your interested/familiar with and file bugs as you find them
19:15:27 <lewyssmith> At what point do you let sta1 out of the door? So many bugs...
19:15:38 <wilcal> Are new isos soon tmb?
19:16:20 <lewyssmith> Hello Herman.
19:16:32 <hviaene> Hi all
19:16:38 <tmb> I haven't had time/energy to work on the known issues yet :/
19:16:54 <wikigazer> (sry / l8)
19:18:06 <lewyssmith> Next topic, Bill? Not much more to say on M6.
19:18:17 <wilcal> I really think we're headed to a Sept/Oct release on M6
19:18:44 <wilcal> At least at this point we have a working M6 to toy with
19:18:54 <wilcal> lets move on
19:19:00 <lewyssmith> #Updates testing
19:19:24 <wilcal> I've a question for tmb on updates testing kernel
19:19:45 <tmb> lewyssmith, you forgot t o p i c
19:20:01 <lewyssmith> #topic Updates testing
19:20:11 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18031
19:20:12 <[mbot> Bug 18031: normal, Normal, qa-bugs, NEW , Update request: kernel 4.4.11, kernel
19:20:41 <wilcal> comment 132 by Charles Edwards'
19:21:03 <wilcal> have we dropped nvidia driver and is my testing valid?
19:21:47 <wilcal> i can't get the nvidia driver to work
19:22:22 <tmb> wilcal, you are mixing updates... and forgot to install the x11-driver-nvidia-current
19:22:41 <lewyssmith> I want to ask about this bug too. It seems to have got out of hand. I wondered whether we could have a new bug for 4.4.11 starting at Comments 119 & 120 of the old one.
19:22:44 <wilcal> ok I'll try that
19:23:09 <wilcal> ya soooooo many issues in this bug it makes your head spin
19:23:20 <lewyssmith> Most of the bug comments are for 4.4.9 & 4.4.10.
19:23:30 <lewyssmith> Both now redundant.
19:24:21 <lewyssmith> The changes in Comment 119 are fundamental.
19:24:38 <tmb> focus on the updates listed in https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18031#c119 first, and when they are tested/validated... then try the new kernel
19:24:40 <[mbot> Bug 18031: normal, Normal, qa-bugs, NEW , Update request: kernel 4.4.11, kernel
19:24:43 <wilcal> you almost have to start with a clean empty HD and install using boot.iso and go from there. That's what I do
19:25:01 <wilcal> takes a long time
19:25:37 <lewyssmith> I am poised to install the pre-required updates, then kernel 4.4.11.
19:25:54 <wilcal> i do the install make sure it all works ( without Vbox installed )
19:25:55 <tmb> that way the kernel update is way easier to test
19:26:17 <wilcal> then update the kernel and nvidia then install Vbox on the updated install
19:26:29 <wilcal> at least I know I have a path to success
19:27:10 <lewyssmith> I wanted to thank Shlomi for doing bug 18356, deep - but he has gone!
19:27:11 <[mbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18356 normal, Normal, qa-bugs, NEW , botan new security issues CVE-2015-7827 and CVE-2016-2849, botan-1.10.12-1.mga5.src.rpm
19:28:06 <wilcal> long list of bugs to work on
19:28:33 <wilcal> slow moving M6 so I try to touch one every day
19:28:54 <lewyssmith> Bug 18433 is a real killer. I can understand it being by-passed.
19:28:55 <[mbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18433 major, Normal, qa-bugs, NEW , Missing AskPass prevents SSH cloning, tortoisehg-3.2.1-1.mga5
19:29:23 <lewyssmith> I looked at it, but the background reading baffled me.
19:29:45 <wilcal> looks confusing
19:30:21 <lewyssmith> tmb: Do you understand advisories?
19:31:04 <tmb> lewyssmith, yep
19:31:13 <lewyssmith> Quick question...
19:32:58 <lewyssmith> I have a bad situation where a new advisory NOT YET COMMITED has got mixed up with an existing commited one, which I do not want to messup. Can I delete both from my *local* repo, so that svn up will bring back the correct existing one, & I can re-start the new one? svn rm ?
19:34:09 <lewyssmith> This is stopping me adding new advisories.
19:35:43 <tmb> lewyssmith, yep, removing the changed uncommitted files and doing svn up will restore the proper files
19:36:41 <lewyssmith> With svn rm, or just delete them in the local repo? The new advisory has several files for it now due to conflicts. Need to delete them all.
19:37:29 <tmb> lewyssmith, just delete them in local repo, no svn rm
19:37:51 <lewyssmith> What does svn rm do?
19:38:56 <tmb> svn rm will queue the changes in the local "transation "TODO" log"
19:39:28 <lewyssmith> Thanks. Let's move on - OK with you Bill?
19:40:07 <wilcal> oooo one more
19:40:13 <lewyssmith> Fine.
19:40:15 <wilcal> the two strange nvidia updates
19:40:49 <wilcal> 304 & 340 can we even test those? without the real hardware
19:41:09 <lewyssmith> bug 18526
19:41:11 <[mbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18526 normal, Normal, qa-bugs, NEW , Update Request: nvidia304 GPL fix, nvidia304
19:41:14 <lewyssmith> bug 18527
19:41:15 <[mbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18527 normal, Normal, qa-bugs, NEW , Update Request: nvidia340 GPL fix, nvidia340
19:41:16 <wilcal> ya
19:41:42 <wilcal> don't you need the actual hardware ( old )?
19:42:34 <tmb> thats preferred yes
19:42:34 <wilcal> maybe we should just check that it updates without error?
19:42:51 <wilcal> that's old stuff I think
19:43:01 <lewyssmith> Hello Ben.
19:43:40 <wilcal> i'll update them in Vbox and if that works let it hang for a couple days then push them on
19:44:00 <lewyssmith> Re those bugs - there is nothing we can do without the specific hardware.
19:44:07 <Benmc> Lewys, Qa. Good morning
19:44:08 <wilcal> yup
19:44:43 <wilcal> I can also tinker with the other two kernels in vbox
19:44:51 <wilcal> anything else there
19:45:19 <lewyssmith> #topic Luigi's roundup: security matters
19:45:31 <wilcal> I've not heard from luigi
19:45:41 <lewyssmith> He has sent an e-mail with his roundup.
19:45:54 <lewyssmith> Running again today.
19:45:58 <wilcal> ok then on to anything else
19:46:12 <lewyssmith> #topic Anything else?
19:46:26 <wilcal> i really don't have anything else
19:46:51 <lewyssmith> I had a surprise in store, but think it would be better to hold it for next time.
19:46:58 <wilcal> k
19:47:07 <wikigazer> missed luigi's email, was it sent to the qa list?
19:48:00 <wilcal> i have'nt seen it either
19:48:24 <lewyssmith> To QA discuss. timed 18.18.
19:48:39 <wilcal> k
19:48:56 <wilcal> anyway we got lots o bugs to test already :-))
19:49:05 <lewyssmith> In reply to Claire's absence message.
19:49:14 <wikigazer> hmm, not seeing it, wonder if gmail has done it's odd spam classification of his email?
19:49:19 <wilcal> anything else else
19:49:49 <lewyssmith> Not here. Except thanks again for chairing, and to those (esp tmb) for coming.
19:49:57 <wikigazer> yep, it's in the spam folder... sigh
19:50:11 <lewyssmith> If you will use gmail...
19:50:16 <wilcal> no prob everyone. We'll see you next time
19:50:19 <wilcal> count down
19:50:22 <wilcal> t5
19:50:29 <wilcal> t4
19:50:29 <lewyssmith> Goodbye everyone.
19:50:34 <wilcal> t3
19:50:37 <wilcal> t2
19:50:40 <wilcal> t1
19:50:44 <wilcal> #endmeeting