20:04:46 <wilcal> #startmeeting
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20:05:12 <wilcal> #chair lewyssmith
20:05:12 <Inigo_Montoya> Current chairs: lewyssmith wilcal
20:05:27 <wilcal> you get to be David till David shows if
20:05:41 <wilcal> #topic Who's new?
20:05:58 <wilcal> Any newbees?
20:06:31 <wilcal> Does not look like it
20:06:33 <Benmc> looks like only old hands
20:07:00 <wilcal> #topic testing M6
20:07:10 <wilcal> Groan
20:07:10 <tjandrews> We need better bait to catch some new ones.
20:07:40 <wilcal> I think there are two issues with M6
20:07:52 <wilcal> One is getting M6 to install at all anything
20:08:25 <wilcal> The other is that PAD remains unchanged thought there's really nothing to report
20:09:10 <wilcal> Anyone have any success at alll with M6?
20:09:18 <lewyssmith> It looks like 'all quiet on the M6 front'.
20:09:39 <tjandrews> I confess to ignoring M6 this week. I didn't need yet another headache.
20:09:56 <Benmc> some isos will boot from dvd only
20:10:06 <lewyssmith> BTW Is there a list of what it is lined up to introduce - Plasma apart?
20:10:10 <Benmc> some isos from usb only
20:10:18 <wilcal> we're beyond the snapshot 2 date
20:10:24 <Benmc> x86 classic nt install ony
20:10:56 <Benmc> nt=net install
20:11:02 <wilcal> dvd only in that only from a real dvd on real hardware?
20:11:17 <Benmc> yep
20:11:25 <wilcal> gracious
20:11:52 <wilcal> on occasion i'll do a net install with boot.iso but it's been a couple weeks since I've done that
20:12:14 <tarazed> DVDs are slower - could that be significant?
20:12:29 <lewyssmith> Yes.
20:12:50 <tarazed> So, some timing issues maybe.
20:13:26 <wilcal_> my laptop just hickuped
20:14:13 <lewyssmith> Almost an anagram of puked...
20:14:32 <wilcal_> I've moved over to the desktop
20:14:34 <Benmc> there is also still a long wait ~ 8 min looking for new hardware at reboot
20:15:11 <wilcal_> IMO we're looking at Jun/Jul for release at least
20:15:43 <Akien> wilcal: +1
20:15:47 <Benmc> live gnome dvd has a installer wizard launcher, but it wont launch
20:15:59 <tjandrews> I got a 64-bit install from and earlier iso in VirtualBox. There was a long boot time on the first boot, but much shorter on the second.
20:16:29 <tjandrews> Don't remember which iso that was now.
20:16:52 <Benmc> i586 classic forgets network  at first login
20:17:46 <tjandrews> Ben, are your tests on EFI hardware, legacy, or both?
20:17:52 <wilcal_> my isos are dated 2/4 Feb
20:18:02 <wilcal_> I think that's the latest
20:18:23 <lewyssmith> It seems to me pointless to flog this until things boot reliably. Hence my suggestion about a few volunteer testers in direct contact with the ISO builders to help get to that position faster.
20:18:29 <Benmc> TJ: both
20:19:10 <tjandrews> Same symptoms on each?
20:19:17 <tarazed> One per iso maybe.
20:19:41 <tarazed> One tester per iso.
20:19:51 <lewyssmith> Not 9, perhaps three or 4.
20:20:09 <Ages> sorry, just got back, I've had a few shots at m6 on hyperv, not so great :/ bugs are filled
20:20:42 <wilcal_> Anyone here have any idea when next isos will be published
20:21:24 <lewyssmith> tmb is not here,  Anne perhaps.
20:22:09 <wilcal_> lets see if she answers
20:22:23 <wilcal_> Anyway we all wait for the next isos
20:22:42 <Benmc> Tarazed: complex question, but I have put notes on pad
20:22:59 <wilcal_> lets move on then
20:23:24 <wilcal_> #topic Testing updates
20:23:33 <tarazed> @benmc: you probably mean tj
20:23:45 <wilcal_> #topic Testing Updates
20:24:05 <wilcal_> seems not to be doing what I ask it to do :-((
20:24:25 <wilcal_> Anyway the list has been cut down considerably
20:24:29 <Benmc> wrong wilal
20:24:40 <tjandrews> Inigo is sleeping.
20:24:56 <Benmc> sorry, wrong wilcal
20:25:00 <wilcal_> I resolved my issues with nvidia and that looks fin for me
20:25:04 <wilcal_> fine for me
20:25:04 <lewyssmith> #topic Testing Updates
20:25:26 <wilcal_> list is cut down considerably
20:25:31 <lewyssmith> Sob. The list has already grown again.
20:25:37 <Luigi12_work> wilcal_: the bot doesn't listen to you because you changed your nick
20:26:10 <wilcal_> Ahhhhhh
20:26:43 <lewyssmith> Luigi12_work: You deserve a public 'thanks' for putting test links in bugs where you can. That is really helpful.
20:26:54 <wilcal_> I wanted to go over one bug not specifically for it but how to test it
20:27:02 <wilcal_> Yes luigi does a great job
20:27:09 <wilcal_> I wanna talk about
20:27:11 <wilcal_> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17730
20:27:12 <Luigi12_work> doesn't seem to have helped with cacti and libvirt :o(
20:27:14 <[mbot> Bug 17730: normal, Normal, qa-bugs, NEW , cacti new security issue CVE-2016-2313, cacti-0.8.8f-1.2.mga5.src.rpm
20:27:20 <Luigi12_work> I don't understand why, we've handled those fine before
20:27:45 <lewyssmith> libvirt has goen into orbit!
20:27:55 <tarazed> Yes, I got further the last time.
20:28:05 <wilcal_> cacti is one of those complex issues where the proceedure is more general then specific so you end up searching for something that works
20:28:36 <Luigi12_work> wilcal_: have you checked other previous cacti bugs to see if the specifics are there anywhere?
20:28:43 <lewyssmith> Is it not just a question of seeing whether it updates OK and still works OK?
20:28:48 <wilcal_> if you follow the proceedure word for word it does not work out
20:28:59 <Luigi12_work> lewyssmith: that's generally the case for most packages
20:29:11 <wilcal_> Yes luigi this is the 3rd time I've tried to understand this app
20:29:25 <wilcal_> lots of notes from past and still no success
20:29:26 <tarazed> This one depends on seeing the database from a web browser and it fails.
20:29:30 <Luigi12_work> well whoever got it to work the last 10 times we updated can perhaps provide some insight?
20:29:44 <wilcal_> I use phpadmin to set up the db
20:29:51 <tarazed> I got that far before but cannot remember how.
20:30:05 <Ages> i've done it in the past, i'll see what i can do, rather busy though so we will see
20:30:08 <Luigi12_work> probably better to use the mysql command line and then document it in the bug (or make a wiki page)
20:30:09 <wilcal_> i'm sure it works i just don't know enough about db's and set ups
20:30:20 <Luigi12_work> see the moodle procedure for an example
20:30:34 <tarazed> Ah, moodle, yes.
20:30:38 <wilcal_> Ya I kinda use that but I'm still a little lost
20:31:11 <wilcal_> anyone if anyone can help on that and document the proceedures as "cacti for dummies" that would be highly appreciated
20:32:07 <lewyssmith> If I managed to get it working, most people can. I always document how I do it.
20:32:46 <wilcal_> There are two other nvidia bugs that are specific to hardware I think
20:33:24 <wilcal_> nvidia304 & nvidia340
20:33:31 <wilcal_> can anyone test those?
20:34:12 <tarazed> I think I did nvidia340 yesterday - but it needs more than one test.
20:34:26 <tjandrews> I tested 340 on both platforms, and 304 on 32-bit. Looked OK to me.
20:35:06 <tarazed> 340 can be validated then.
20:35:25 <wilcal_> So i think the nvidia things can be moved along
20:35:36 <tjandrews> Running it as we type, actually.
20:35:47 <wilcal_> sound ok to you luigi
20:35:52 <Luigi12_work> yes
20:36:40 <wilcal_> that'll cut the list down considerably.
20:37:05 <lewyssmith> I will look at these tomorrow to see whether they can be validated - unless they are done sooner.
20:37:13 <tarazed> nettle passed the other day but Claire found a bug in it after the OK.
20:37:14 <wilcal_> Which brings us to #topic Luigi's Roundup somebody else is gonna have to type this in
20:37:28 <Luigi12_work> wilcal_: or you could just fix your nick
20:37:39 <Luigi12_work> tarazed: I don't think it's a bug
20:37:57 <Luigi12_work> nothing's really using 3.0 in mga5 and you don't need both
20:38:11 <wilcal_> i don't know how to change my nick :-0
20:38:14 <tarazed> Fair enough.
20:38:18 <Luigi12_work> wilcal_: /nick wilcal
20:38:37 <wilcal_> wilcal_: /nick wilcal
20:38:52 <wilcal_> #topic Luigi's Roundup
20:38:58 <wilcal_> no joy
20:39:01 <lewyssmith> #topic Luigi's roundup
20:39:05 <tjandrews> Start with the "/"
20:39:07 <Luigi12_work> :facepalm:
20:39:41 <lewyssmith> I have never found a list of IRC commands.
20:40:03 <Luigi12_work> there's another new CVE for jasper and opensuse has a patch, so I'll check that out at some point if nobody beats me to it
20:40:25 <Luigi12_work> nginx has some CVEs and the patches either need to be backported (waiting to see if debian does) or we need to update from 1.6.2 to 1.8.1
20:40:47 <Luigi12_work> even more new CVEs in webkit2, not sure what we'll do with that one
20:41:01 <Luigi12_work> python-pillow has a few security issues, fixes pending there
20:41:47 <Luigi12_work> xdelta3 has a security issue, it needs to be updated (and it needs a maintainer...)
20:42:01 <Luigi12_work> graphicsmagick has a handful of security issues, some which still need to be fixed upstream
20:42:04 <rindolf> good night everyone.
20:42:11 <wilcal_> nite rin
20:42:20 <rindolf> wilcal_: thanks, bye.
20:42:22 <Luigi12_work> claws-mail has another CVE, patch I think is already in SVN, just waiting for wally_ to push it to QA
20:42:27 <tjandrews> 'night.
20:42:43 <Luigi12_work> VLC 2.2.2 update for Mageia 5 is blocked by a buggy samba lib in updates_testing, waiting for neoclust to do something about that
20:42:53 <Luigi12_work> chromium-browser-stable needs yet another update (of course)
20:42:58 <lewyssmith> tjandrews: Goodbye TJ.
20:43:04 <Luigi12_work> botan has some security issues, rindolf is looking at that one
20:43:31 <Luigi12_work> and there's an integer overflow that affects eom, gnome-photos, eog, gambas3, thunar, pinpoint, and gtk+2.0 (copy-pasted bad code)
20:43:47 <tjandrews> That was for Rindolf. I'm staying for a while yet.
20:44:11 <Luigi12_work> that's the latest from the last two weeks, there are some older ones too
20:44:27 <wilcal_> So no deluge yet
20:44:43 <Luigi12_work> need packagers to help fix things
20:44:49 <wilcal> lemme see if this works now
20:44:58 <wilcal> #topic Anything Else?
20:45:04 <wilcal> Yipppeeeeeeee
20:45:09 <tjandrews> YAY!
20:45:09 <lewyssmith> Well done.
20:45:34 <wilcal> Except for M6 we're in pretty good shape
20:45:37 <tarazed> Yes.  to Lewis.  I think you address /help to NickServ to list commands.
20:45:59 <tarazed> And, /help <command> for details.
20:46:21 <lewyssmith> Help! Hiawatha has hijacked Apache as my web browser; how do I get the latter back - just un-install H?
20:46:30 <Luigi12_work> yes
20:46:42 <lewyssmith> Thanks.
20:46:54 <tjandrews> Wondering... With the lack of progress on M6, will there be some potential backports of upgraded software?
20:47:10 <Luigi12_work> that's up to packagers
20:49:02 <wilcal> Anything else with a short list of bugs and M6 stuck in the mud maybe a short meeting
20:49:26 <lewyssmith> Clear the bugs!
20:49:43 <wilcal> I saw libvert there and I've done that in the past
20:49:52 <Luigi12_work> yes let's get that pushed please :o)
20:50:01 <wilcal> k
20:50:18 <wilcal> anything else
20:50:38 <lewyssmith> Not here. Thanks Bill for chairing.
20:50:40 <wilcal> time for count down?
20:50:50 <lewyssmith> Looks like it.
20:50:55 <wilcal> T-5
20:51:02 <lewyssmith> -4
20:51:02 <wilcal> T-4
20:51:11 <wilcal> T-3
20:51:16 <lewyssmith> Goodbye everyone.
20:51:18 <wilcal> T-2
20:51:21 <wilcal> bye all
20:51:24 <wilcal> T-1
20:51:28 <wilcal> #endmeeting