20:01:25 <wilcal> #startmeeting 20:01:25 <Inigo_Montoya`> Meeting started Thu Feb 4 20:01:25 2016 UTC. The chair is wilcal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:01:25 <Inigo_Montoya`> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 20:01:25 <DavidWHodgins> I haven't used it, so don't know 20:02:45 <lewyssmith> tjandrews: Hexchat is good. 20:02:50 <wilcal> #chair DavidWHodgins 20:02:50 <Inigo_Montoya`> Current chairs: DavidWHodgins wilcal 20:03:28 <tjandrews> There has to be a way with Chatzilla. I need to study the manual. 20:04:35 <tjandrews> So, is anything happening? 20:05:08 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Who's new 20:05:15 <lewyssmith> I hope so. Let's have "Anyone new?" 20:05:36 <DavidWHodgins> Anyone here who hasn't been to a qa team irc meeting before? 20:06:11 <DavidWHodgins> Skimming the list, it doesn't look like it 20:06:16 <wilcal> no one is raising their hand 20:06:24 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Mageia 6 - status 20:06:32 <DavidWHodgins> Opinions? 20:06:50 <wilcal> OooooOoo 20:06:59 <lewyssmith> I refrain from comment. Others have said enough. 20:07:00 <wilcal> it's in pretty tough shape I think 20:07:17 <tjandrews> I haven't looked at it in a week. Been immersed in more "taxing" stuff. 20:07:18 <wilcal> I really can't get it installed 20:07:41 <DavidWHodgins> Not unusual for a first version, as there is still a lot of development going on 20:08:29 <DavidWHodgins> ennael: Any comments? 20:08:31 <wilcal> have we made much progress 20:09:49 <DavidWHodgins> Anyone have anything to add about Mageia 6, that hasn't been discussed in the pad or qa-discuss already? 20:10:17 <DavidWHodgins> Might be a short meeting this week. :-) 20:10:22 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Testing updates 20:10:41 <wilcal> there are a lot of OK's on the list can we move some of them 20:11:11 <lewyssmith> They are a really demanding lot at present. 20:11:16 <DavidWHodgins> There are a bunch marked ok. They are waiting for me to add the advisories to svn. I have to sit down for an hour or two and get them added. Very tedious process 20:11:29 <DavidWHodgins> I'll do that right after this meeting 20:11:58 <wilcal> I think if it's ok'd in one version we can move it along 20:12:19 <lewyssmith> Yes, this is agreed when we are pressed. 20:12:22 <DavidWHodgins> Yes, for anything other than things like the kernel 20:12:50 <wilcal> brb 20:12:52 <hviaene> I have an issue with the fglrx update: the update package is not there??? 20:14:40 <Guest45009> \nick Brian____ 20:15:09 <DavidWHodgins> hviaene: Which package? Do you have nonfree updates testing enabled? 20:15:37 <hviaene> No, not the nonfree 20:16:20 <lewyssmith> Necessary, always. I have just checked it *is* there, 3 pkgs. 20:16:48 <hviaene> I should have noticed in the package name!!!! 20:16:56 <DavidWHodgins> :-) 20:17:18 <MrsB> Morning QA 20:17:18 <DavidWHodgins> Easy mistake to make. I've done it several times, especially when adding the advisories to svn 20:17:26 <DavidWHodgins> HiYa Claire 20:17:27 <lewyssmith> Welcome, Claire. 20:17:29 <tjandrews> Morning, Claire. 20:17:31 <wilcal> back 20:17:42 <MrsB> Just got in, sorry to miss the start 20:18:03 <DavidWHodgins> We're just on testing updates. No new users 20:18:04 <tjandrews> Even if it IS in the middle of the afternoon here. 20:18:23 <MrsB> Carry on Dave dude :) 20:18:44 <MrsB> Should be a few we can push now 20:18:55 <wilcal> we kinda passed over M6 :-( 20:19:06 <lewyssmith> MrsB: Quite a lot, fortunately. 20:19:08 <DavidWHodgins> I'll confirm with tmb, and if ok will validate the xen update even though I couldn't get it to work properly 20:19:17 <lewyssmith> ! 20:19:32 <rindolf> Hi! Sorry I'm late. 20:19:40 <MrsB> lewis thanks for your email before, apologies for not sending a thankyou before 20:19:44 <lewyssmith> DavidWHodgins: BTW tmb is here. 20:19:49 <DavidWHodgins> HiYa rindolf 20:20:12 <tjandrews> Hi, rindolf. 20:20:12 <DavidWHodgins> ping tmb ^^ 20:20:53 <rindolf> tjandrews: sup? 20:21:26 <MrsB> I think we need to be pragmatic with things like that. Nobody responded to help with testing so the occasional issue may encourage more people to get involved 20:21:41 <tjandrews> Not much. Trying to avoid paying as many taxes as I can legally get away with. 20:21:56 <DavidWHodgins> Yeah. I'll go ahead and validate it after the meeting 20:22:21 <tmb> ah, sorry ... was reading iso build logs... 20:22:37 <MrsB> it either means 1. nobody cares 2. nobody cares enough to help or 3. nobody uses it 20:22:50 <DavidWHodgins> For the fglrx and nvidia kernel modules, those should be tested on both i586 and x86_64 20:23:08 <DavidWHodgins> On real hardware 20:23:25 <lewyssmith> polarssl requires heavy applications; radicale is not playing ball yet; nor libvirt. 20:23:36 <DavidWHodgins> I can ok the fglrx one on x86_64 20:23:37 <wilcal> is radicale broke? 20:23:50 <hviaene> With someluck I could have a go at those tomorrow afternoon 20:24:00 <DavidWHodgins> for polarssl, just test pdns 20:24:06 <lewyssmith> No, but get it to work... 20:24:08 <tmb> please wait a day with the xen package... I'll try to get it tested here tomorrow... I hade hoped alien as official maintainer would help out but.. 20:24:20 <DavidWHodgins> tmb: Ok. Thanks 20:24:35 <tjandrews> I can try the nvidia 340 package on both. 20:24:45 <lewyssmith> DavidWHodgins: Is pdns easy to test? 20:24:45 <MrsB> polarssl has a self test facility iirc, best to check with mcc that it updates properly rather than installing the packages on cli as the names changed - it'll ensure they are properly replacing the originals 20:25:02 <DavidWHodgins> lewyssmith: I've never tested it before, so am not sure 20:25:11 <MrsB> pdns is very easy yes, check past updates 20:25:53 <tjandrews> I could try the 304 package on my brother's computer, but if it breaks it I'll never hear the end of it. 20:25:58 <DavidWHodgins> I'll test fglrx on i586 later today 20:26:14 <lewyssmith> And I will tomorrow. x86. 20:27:04 <DavidWHodgins> tjandrews: Just be sure you know how to go back to the prior version if needed 20:27:37 <lewyssmith> wilcal: I notice you did not have any joy with radical. 20:28:01 <wilcal> I put some considerable time into understanding that thing 20:28:11 <lewyssmith> Me too... 20:28:16 <wilcal> no joy 20:28:29 <lewyssmith> No. Yet to note results. 20:28:51 <MrsB> I'll try and get some time tmrw afternoon 20:29:33 <ennael> grumbl back with a crapy 1G (at least) 20:29:48 <MrsB> hi ennael 20:29:50 <wilcal> i always struggle with either it's really broke or I don't understand it 20:29:51 <DavidWHodgins> Good you have you back 20:30:01 <lewyssmith> Is openssl easy to test? 20:30:11 <DavidWHodgins> Yes 20:30:44 <MrsB> even have a wiki page for that one 20:31:08 <wilcal> i'll get through ffmpg today or tomorrow 20:32:57 <DavidWHodgins> Any other updates to discuss? 20:33:14 <lewyssmith> I feel more hopeful now. 20:33:22 <MrsB> tmb: we have a few backports atm 20:33:30 <ennael> DavidWHodgins: I will rebuild 64bits isos tonight or tomorrow morning 20:33:48 <MrsB> how do you want us to go about getting them pushed - just ask on sysadmin ml? 20:33:51 <hviaene> Just a suggestion: put the windows manager in the subject of the bug where applicable please 20:34:01 <tmb> ennael, I resynced frozen repo for some fixes... last package in: gitg-3.19.6-1.mga6 20:34:11 <DavidWHodgins> #info Expect new classical iso images tonight or tomorrow 20:34:13 <hviaene> like 17456: its a LXDE issue 20:34:32 <wilcal> crossing fingers for an M6 install 20:34:37 <tmb> MrsB, yeah, post them on sysadm for now 20:34:43 <MrsB> ok tah 20:35:09 <MrsB> #info Just ask on sysadmin ML to push backports for now 20:35:17 <MrsB> herman good idea 20:35:26 <ennael> tmb: ok 20:35:47 <Akien> For backports the idea is to both sysadmins by asking them to push them manually. After a while they'll get bored and write the proper tools that they need to simply it :p 20:35:56 <lewyssmith> hviaene: You could post that idea on the mailList. 20:36:04 <Akien> s/both/bother/ 20:36:09 <DavidWHodgins> For menu-cache, it should be tested on other de's too, even if only the lxde part is expected to change 20:36:20 <DavidWHodgins> :-) 20:36:21 <MrsB> lol Akien, never know. Still no bugzilla integration with mgaadv 20:36:39 <Akien> MrsB: That's because we're the one uploading advisories manually :p 20:36:50 <hviaene> lewissmith: QA discuss??? 20:37:08 <lewyssmith> Yes. 20:37:39 <DavidWHodgins> Keep in mind we can edit the titles in bugzilla quite easily 20:37:50 <lewyssmith> hviaene: But not many of us know which window manager we are using - just the desktop. 20:38:40 <DavidWHodgins> In this case, it's the desktop environment (lxde). Desktop managers are things like gdm, lxdm, etc 20:38:58 <hviaene> Heh???? KDE and Xfce are vastly different, so is LXDE of Icewm, you could be mistaken??? 20:39:27 <tmb> btw, seems live isos builds ok and atleast gnome test iso now boots ... oh, and sorry for pushing older isos on official test tree before I've tested them :/ 20:39:55 <lewyssmith> DavidWHodgins: Dave, I know that much! But some offer a choice of Window Managers. 20:39:57 <ennael> it may be my fault... 20:40:11 <MrsB> The Desktop Manager is the login bit Herman, before you get to the Desktop Environment 20:40:37 <hviaene> OK, bad wording, but I think you got the message 20:40:50 <MrsB> yep 20:40:50 <DavidWHodgins> urpmf /etc/X11/wmsession.d/|sort -u will give a list of all of the desktop environments available 20:41:14 <DavidWHodgins> Ready to move on? 20:41:39 <wilcal> i'm ready 20:41:39 <lewyssmith> Let us. 20:41:45 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Luigi's roundup 20:41:53 <DavidWHodgins> ping Luigi12_lappy 20:43:16 <DavidWHodgins> Looks like he's busy 20:44:07 <DavidWHodgins> That only leaves us with ... 20:44:13 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Anything else? 20:44:24 <lewyssmith> Not here. 20:44:26 <MrsB> OpenQA 20:44:36 <rindolf> Not here. 20:44:44 <DavidWHodgins> vlad isn't here today 20:44:47 <MrsB> ennael: could you say a few words about where we are with OpenQA please 20:44:50 <wilcal> so new M6 ISOS is 24/48 or so 20:45:08 <MrsB> didi I see server it now ready? 20:45:37 <DavidWHodgins> wilcal: hours, yes. 20:45:45 <wilcal> thks 20:46:03 <MrsB> Vlad is ready for it to be pushed to infra now, doktor5000 emailed sysadmin about it yesterday IIRC 20:46:09 <DavidWHodgins> #chair MrsB 20:46:09 <Inigo_Montoya`> Current chairs: DavidWHodgins MrsB wilcal 20:46:38 <MrsB> let me re-read council meeting a sec 20:46:55 <DavidWHodgins> #info Just ask on sysadmin ML to push backports for now 20:48:12 <MrsB> #info New server should be set up this weekend - This paves the way for OpenQA, Reviewboard & more 20:49:19 <lewyssmith> To precipitate the mass exit, I'm off: goodbye everyone, thanks for comings, thanks to the chairs. 20:49:19 <MrsB> How was FOSDEM? 20:49:43 <MrsB> Nite lewis 20:50:03 <hviaene> I had a great time there on saturday 20:50:14 <wilcal> good crowd i see 20:50:20 <MrsB> did you find it alright? 20:50:36 <hviaene> It was nice to meet people I knew only by name 20:51:25 <hviaene> I asked Thomas Backlund whether he knew Mageia, I hadn't seen him ever! 20:51:36 <wilcal> Brussels has a nice metro system 20:51:40 <MrsB> lol funny but understandable 20:51:56 <MrsB> did he say yes? 20:52:12 <hviaene> Yes, he was very kind 20:52:42 <MrsB> Ready for the countdown then folks? 20:53:03 <wilcal> i'm ready 20:53:10 <MrsB> T - 5 then 20:53:10 <wilcal> for dem iso's 20:53:15 <MrsB> :) 20:53:18 <MrsB> 4 20:53:20 <MrsB> 3 20:53:25 <MrsB> Thanks for being here everybody 20:53:27 <MrsB> 2 20:53:29 <MrsB> 1 20:53:33 <MrsB> #endmeeting