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19:02:28 <wilcal> Thanks for sending out the notice David
19:02:52 <DavidWHodgins> #chair wilcal mrsb
19:02:52 <Inigo_Montoya`> Current chairs: DavidWHodgins mrsb wilcal
19:03:03 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Who's new? If you're just joining QA come and introduce yourself
19:03:25 <DavidWHodgins> Anyone here who has not been to a qa team irc meeting before?
19:04:23 <DavidWHodgins> Doesn't look like it.
19:04:28 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Testing updates - Anyone need help?
19:05:30 <hviaene> Hi all
19:06:01 <brian> of course - working on trying something
19:06:04 <DavidWHodgins> As expected, now that cauldron has reopened there are a bunch of updates now ready for Mageia 4 and 5. Most of them have to be tested in both releases. That can be done under Virtualbox, for most of them.
19:06:45 <wilcal> Building my new Vbox drive as we speak
19:07:47 <wilcal> I should be back into full swing in a couple days. Rebuilding my working systems with M5
19:08:35 <DavidWHodgins> The only things that can't be just be tested under virtualbox are things like new kernels, and new versions of virtualbox. The kerenels should be tested on real hardware and in virtualbox. New versions of virtualbox of course only need testing on real hardware.
19:09:09 <brian> ok
19:09:32 <DavidWHodgins> Anyone have any questions about how to test each of the outstanding updates from http://mageia.madb.org/tools/updates
19:09:57 <brian> well - hmm.  Maybe, but let me try some things first
19:10:06 <wilcal> You do'n ok brian
19:10:37 <brian> can't find the p7zip-9.20.1-6.1.mga5.  It keeps only giving me the one from the main not testing
19:10:52 <brian> so I mistaking somewhere
19:11:26 <brian> added repository using root, so fascinated.
19:11:28 <DavidWHodgins> brian: Double check in drakrpm-edit-media to ensure the testing repo has been enabled.
19:11:30 <brian> Maybe a reboot to fix
19:11:53 <wilcal> sometimes you need to reboot to get the repo to "take"
19:12:02 <DavidWHodgins> This is linux. Only need to reboot for kernel or glibc updates.
19:12:25 <hviaene> In general some - many doe not have clear test cases. Hunting around I find some, but i sometimes spend more time and that than the actual teste
19:12:47 <hviaene> and that = at that
19:12:51 <brian> makes sense - sorry still wet behind the ear on that
19:13:15 <DavidWHodgins> That's not unusual. You learn a lot in qa, but it does require a lot of research.
19:13:19 <brian> what' the command to force the reload?
19:13:49 <DavidWHodgins> Reload of repos? urpmi.update a
19:13:57 <brian> thanks  -
19:13:59 <DavidWHodgins> Then urpmi --auto-select
19:14:32 <hviaene> Oh , I thought "shutdown -r"
19:14:34 <brian> found something
19:14:54 <brian> 10
19:14:54 <brian> unable to access medium "Core Release"
19:15:18 <brian> so will look at that
19:15:24 <DavidWHodgins> My cat just woke up. He want's to be fed NOW. I'll be back shortly.
19:15:50 <wilcal> You using on line repo of a local repo
19:15:51 <brian> no worries
19:16:08 <brian> online - CDROM disabled
19:16:22 <DavidWHodgins> Back
19:17:27 <DavidWHodgins> brian: Try "urpmi.removemedia -a", then use drakrpm to add the repos again.
19:18:16 <brian> will do
19:18:51 <DavidWHodgins> Any other questions about how to test the updates?
19:19:19 <rindolf> Hi all. Sorry that I missed the beginning of the meeting.
19:19:28 <brian> reloading now
19:19:34 <wilcal> hi rindolf
19:19:36 <DavidWHodgins> rindolf: Thanks for joining.
19:20:32 <DavidWHodgins> Everyone please make an effort to test the updates both for Mageia 4 and 5.
19:21:17 <hviaene> And for both architectures?
19:21:26 <DavidWHodgins> Again, See http://mageia.madb.org/tools/updates for a list of updates waiting for testing.
19:21:48 <DavidWHodgins> Yes for most packages. No for the noarch packages.
19:22:14 <DavidWHodgins> The noarch packages are usually just scripts.
19:23:19 <DavidWHodgins> I have 6 Mageia installs under virtualbox for testing Mageia 4, 5, and cauldron in i586 mode and x86_64.
19:23:50 <wilcal> Have you switched your Vbox hosting system to M5 yet David
19:24:32 <DavidWHodgins> I have 7 on real hardware. The same as in vb all using default values except the one I normally use for email etc which is highly customized.
19:25:07 <wilcal> I'm building my M5 Vbox hosting drive as we speak. Seems ok so far
19:25:09 <DavidWHodgins> wilcal: Not yet. Waiting for bug 16173 to get fixed first.
19:26:00 <brian> fyi drop and reload worked
19:26:23 <DavidWHodgins> Argh. Looks like mbot is down. https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16173
19:26:36 <wilcal> i start from a blank drive so 16173 should not effect me
19:27:13 <wilcal> blank drive and start with x86_64 boot.iso
19:27:18 <DavidWHodgins> wilcal: A clean install works. It's the upgrade from Mageia 4 to 5 using mgaapplet that ising.
19:27:41 <DavidWHodgins> s /ising/isn't/
19:27:49 <DavidWHodgins> Typo day today. :-)
19:28:06 <wilcal> we should probably discuss any issues that have cropped up with M5
19:28:27 <DavidWHodgins> I'm not aware of any, to discuss.
19:29:24 <wilcal> Every once in awhile for me M5 x86_64 KDE x crashes out then back
19:29:32 <wilcal> Very rare though
19:30:04 <DavidWHodgins> That could be hardware, as I haven't heard reports of that from anyone else.
19:30:16 <wilcal> two completely different systems
19:30:37 <wilcal> what log file would be good to capture
19:30:44 <brian> should I have received an updates on my new MG5 systems yet?
19:31:04 <wilcal> flash got updated that's all i've seen
19:31:06 <hviaene> I had a complete freeze of my PC two weeks ago KDE
19:32:21 <DavidWHodgins> Everyone should check out http://fossforce.com/2015/06/a-look-at-mageia-5s-magic/ and be proud of the work we've done.
19:32:35 <brian> will do
19:32:53 <DavidWHodgins> Ok. Let's move on.
19:33:04 <DavidWHodgins> #topic http://fossforce.com/2015/06/a-look-at-mageia-5s-magic/
19:33:11 <DavidWHodgins> Oops
19:33:37 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Luigi's Roundup - Weekly security news from our David Walser
19:33:52 <DavidWHodgins> Luigi12_work: ping
19:33:58 <DavidWHodgins> Luigi12_lappy: ping
19:35:37 <DavidWHodgins> Looks like he's busy, so we may have to wait for him to emal the qa-discuss mailing list to find out what's likely to come soon.
19:35:45 <wilcal> I think Luigi said something about teaching school this week
19:36:05 <Luigi12_work> hello
19:36:13 <wilcal> ooooo there he is
19:36:15 <Luigi12_work> finished teaching Monday actually
19:36:19 <DavidWHodgins> Hey you made it.
19:36:38 <DavidWHodgins> Time for the roundup of what's likely coming.
19:37:14 <Luigi12_work> still waiting on upstream for owncloud-client 1.8.3
19:37:24 <DavidWHodgins> Luigi12_work: Did you see http://fossforce.com/2015/06/a-look-at-mageia-5s-magic/
19:37:33 <Luigi12_work> new polkit security issue, hoping upstream cuts a new release soon
19:37:38 <Luigi12_work> DavidWHodgins: I did see the article, yes
19:37:56 <DavidWHodgins> Ouch. polkit is very important.
19:38:19 <Luigi12_work> libwmf is assigned to QA with some severe security issues.  There are a couple more less severe issues outstanding, so we might do 2 updates for that unless the current update candidate lags in QA too long.
19:38:38 <DavidWHodgins> #info Still waiting for owncloud update, and polkit too.
19:38:38 <Luigi12_work> yep, hate to see issues in polkit, those generally lead to local privledge escalation
19:39:07 <Luigi12_work> freeradius, also waiting for upstream to issue the next release that's supposed to fix the issue
19:39:26 <Luigi12_work> cgit contains an old bundled git, so I've asked coling to update that, maybe he will
19:39:47 <DavidWHodgins> #info Also still waiting for a freeradius update, and cgit too.
19:39:50 <Luigi12_work> x11-server has a minor issue in XWayland, so probably not very important for us, but we may issue an update
19:40:05 <Luigi12_work> philippem is working on an update for an issue in ipython
19:40:25 <DavidWHodgins> #info There may be an X11-server update too.
19:40:25 <Luigi12_work> cjw/spturtle is working on a chromium-browser update (I guess I could say that every week)
19:40:44 <DavidWHodgins> #info an update for ipython is being worked on.
19:40:48 <Luigi12_work> webmin is waiting on me to update it (XSS issue)
19:40:49 <wilcal> almost as many as flash
19:41:18 <Luigi12_work> that's all I have
19:41:22 <DavidWHodgins> Not as bad as the wordpress plugins, which thankfully we don't package.
19:41:33 <DavidWHodgins> Thanks David
19:41:40 <rindolf> Thanks Luigi12_work
19:41:40 <wilcal> only pushed m5 update is flash right now?
19:41:53 <Luigi12_work> so far
19:41:56 <DavidWHodgins> Feels weird typing that, as I'm also David.
19:42:03 <Luigi12_work> :o)
19:42:17 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Anything else?
19:42:33 <wilcal> lots of good vibes over M5
19:42:37 <DavidWHodgins> Does anyone have anything else they would like to discuss?
19:43:07 <DavidWHodgins> Yes, the article from fossforce.com was very nice.
19:43:07 <wilcal> not from me
19:43:29 <DavidWHodgins> I guess it's countdown time.
19:43:31 <DavidWHodgins> 5
19:43:33 <brian> wilcal - I'll be pinging you as needed
19:43:35 <brian> 4
19:43:38 <DavidWHodgins> 4
19:43:41 <wilcal> sounds good
19:43:44 <DavidWHodgins> 3
19:43:48 <DavidWHodgins> 2
19:43:51 <DavidWHodgins> 1
19:44:04 <DavidWHodgins> Thanks for coming everyone.
19:44:08 <wilcal> bye all
19:44:13 <DavidWHodgins> #endmeeting