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19:05:35 <MrsB> Morning everybody, welcome to another metting
19:05:36 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Who's new?
19:05:38 <MrsB> meeting
19:05:46 <MrsB> it's typo day again
19:05:56 <MrsB> #chair DavidWHodgins wilcal
19:05:56 <Inigo_Montoya> Current chairs: DavidWHodgins MrsB wilcal
19:06:04 <DavidWHodgins> ☺
19:06:11 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Who's new?
19:06:26 <MrsB> Is there anybody new here today?
19:06:54 <MrsB> nope
19:07:17 <MrsB> #topic Mentoring update
19:07:38 <MrsB> We finished ISO testing \o/
19:07:44 <wilcal> We have some working mentored people :-)
19:07:58 <lewyssmith> MrsB: (For the moment)
19:08:16 <MrsB> morning hviaene
19:08:27 <hviaene> Morning all
19:08:38 <hviaene> had trouble with KVirc
19:08:38 <DavidWHodgins> I've been too tired to help Vlad. It might be better for someone else to mentor him for regular updates testing.
19:08:43 <wilcal> iso testing is never finished it "It ain't over till it's over" Yogi Berra - American Baseball PLayer
19:08:50 <MrsB> So we have a few precious weeks/days to get into mentoring again
19:09:26 <lewyssmith> DavidWHodgins: I cannot imagine Vlad *needing* mentoring.
19:09:50 <MrsB> vlad is opposite timezone to me
19:10:15 <MrsB> there is a nice little group developing down under now though
19:10:26 <DavidWHodgins> As far as I know, he's only been involved in iso testing, so far, not updates testing.
19:10:33 <lewyssmith> I would do it if I thought it might be useful; but don't see how.
19:10:35 * MrsB waves to everybody upside down
19:11:02 <DavidWHodgins> Timezone doesn't really matter if the mentoring is done via email.
19:11:13 <lewyssmith> Very true.
19:11:35 <MrsB> #info Dave is having difficulty mentoring due to being tired alot.
19:11:55 <MrsB> do you have anybody at the moment lewis?
19:12:03 <lewyssmith> Not active.
19:12:07 <MrsB> would you mind?
19:12:26 <lewyssmith> No, if Vlad thought it might help him.
19:12:50 <MrsB> It'll be the processes and stuff more than technical stuff i would think
19:13:07 <lewyssmith> I manage *that* OK.
19:13:19 <MrsB> you're our top teacher
19:13:49 <MrsB> #info Lewis will take over mentoring Vlad by email
19:14:07 <MrsB> cool, thanks for that
19:14:11 <DavidWHodgins> He's not here today. His email is vzawalin1 at gmail.com
19:14:35 <lewyssmith> Thanks.
19:15:01 <MrsB> #info if anybody else needs a mentor to begin testing updates, please say so and we'll find one for you
19:15:27 <MrsB> ok, let's move on then
19:15:52 <DavidWHodgins> #topic RC is out!
19:16:01 <MrsB> ahh yes
19:16:10 <lewyssmith> Not before time.
19:16:24 <DavidWHodgins> Thanks everyone for all the hard work testing it.
19:16:30 <MrsB> #info Well done all. RC was a real marathon!
19:16:41 <wilcal> finally out there
19:16:54 <wilcal> lots of moving parts
19:17:05 <MrsB> So i brought this up to discuss what we can move on to doing now
19:17:16 <lewyssmith> Updates, perhaps?
19:17:28 <MrsB> #info we need to test updates for mga4 and also various upgrades from 4 to 5
19:17:51 <DavidWHodgins> Testing updates, and making sure test environments are set up for the final release.
19:17:58 <MrsB> and follow up on any development on bugs you're involved with
19:18:16 <wilcal> I've registered two significant upgrade bugs for M4.1 -> M5
19:18:33 <lewyssmith> ?
19:18:43 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15684
19:18:44 <[mbot> Bug 15684: normal, Normal, bugsquad, NEW , M4.1 -> M5 ( x86_64 ) upgrade fails to start x after upgrade
19:19:03 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15686
19:19:04 <MrsB> #info I'd like us to really reduce the updates list before we begin testing final release so we're not swamped after release and can have a few days to rest
19:19:05 <[mbot> Bug 15686: normal, Normal, bugsquad, NEW , no nfs share mount after upgrade M4.1 -> M5RC i586, nfs-utils
19:19:40 <lewyssmith> wilcal: That last one is a good find.
19:19:49 <MrsB> is nfs caused by a version change wilcal?
19:19:55 <wilcal> 15868 is probably not a release blocker
19:20:03 <DavidWHodgins> Hmm. Isn't bug 15684 an errata item? It sounds very familiar.
19:20:04 <[mbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15684 normal, Normal, bugsquad, NEW , M4.1 -> M5 ( x86_64 ) upgrade fails to start x after upgrade
19:20:09 <wilcal> it only occurs on the i586 upgrade
19:20:19 <wilcal> x86_64 is fine
19:20:43 <wilcal> Also I think this has been around since the M3 -> M4 upgrade
19:20:52 <lewyssmith> So why is the bug marked x64?
19:21:49 <DavidWHodgins> Probably a default that wasn't changed during the bug report.
19:21:52 <wilcal> 686 is marked as the i586 platform
19:22:19 <DavidWHodgins> linux doesn't work anymore on a real i586.
19:22:40 <wilcal> 15684 is truly a show stopper
19:23:19 <MrsB> i've raised priority
19:23:24 <DavidWHodgins> That depends on how many people are affected.
19:23:50 <wilcal> 15684 anyone executing an upgrade would be effected
19:24:11 <MrsB> was that with online medias added or not wilcal?
19:24:32 <wilcal> Now I only tested this with the i586 CI not the Live media
19:24:42 <wilcal> no just the CI iso
19:24:54 <DavidWHodgins> If we know they can use xdriver=vesa, then that's an ok workaround, as long is it only affects a few graphic cards.
19:25:32 <MrsB> no idea currently
19:25:33 <DavidWHodgins> At least, that's my opinion.
19:25:56 <wilcal> FWIW I also do a full install about 1x/wk using the boot.iso's and that all seems to be fine
19:26:25 <MrsB> Let's move on then
19:26:40 <tmb> 15684 needs to be reproduced on real hw too, not only vboc
19:26:57 <MrsB> oh it was vbox
19:26:59 <wilcal> i can do that tmb
19:27:05 <DavidWHodgins> wilcal: It's hardware dependant, which is why we really need feedback from the rc release.
19:27:18 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Testing Updates
19:27:39 <wilcal> ppp is good to go I think
19:27:47 <MrsB> So this is where we need to concentrate now
19:27:56 <MrsB> get the list down to 4 or 5 again
19:28:16 <wilcal> I'll work on the gstreamer thing today/tomorrow
19:28:29 <lewyssmith> I thought of you for that...
19:28:38 <Luigi12_work> does anyone know of a video player that uses gstreamer0.10?
19:28:41 <DavidWHodgins> Clear everything that isn't waiting for feedback from the packager.
19:28:51 <Luigi12_work> I could find plenty of music players but not one that said it was a video player
19:29:26 <DavidWHodgins> Don't most web browsers play video?
19:29:28 <Luigi12_work> or does Firefox indeed play an H.264 video internally if you click on it in the browser?
19:29:39 <Luigi12_work> it didn't appear to be using a plugin but I wasn't 100% sure
19:30:28 <wilcal> Lots of bits and pieces in that gstreamer update
19:30:32 <MrsB> shortly after release we are always inundated with updates and it means we don't get a break if we allow it to grow
19:30:52 <Luigi12_work> wilcal: yeah you don't really need to worry about all the bits and pieces though
19:31:08 <wilcal> I do a LOT of multimedia stuff so I need to test this update throughly
19:31:28 <Luigi12_work> wilcal: as I already said in the bug, literally only one file is affected by the update, and it's in the main package
19:31:34 <hviaene> Cherokee
19:31:35 <wilcal> I'll make sure it works for me first then look for other stuff
19:31:37 <Luigi12_work> it's just the H.264 decoder
19:31:42 <wilcal> k
19:31:47 <hviaene> Could I have seen that th epatch was not applied??
19:32:03 <Luigi12_work> not sure how MrsB caught that, maybe she did an rpmdiff
19:33:00 <lewyssmith> At what point do we OK LibreOffice?
19:33:11 <Luigi12_work> lewyssmith: you can OK it.  I'm testing 32-bit now.
19:33:26 <lewyssmith> But that was just me.
19:33:42 <Luigi12_work> yeah but your test looked fine
19:33:48 <lewyssmith> OK.
19:33:49 <DavidWHodgins> Are we still ok with one arch test?
19:33:52 <Luigi12_work> LO isn't hardware dependent, so it doesn't need multiple testers
19:33:53 <tmb> you mean the 4.3.7.2 that landed today ?
19:34:00 <Luigi12_work> yes that one
19:34:14 <lewyssmith> DavidWHodgins: Hopefully not.
19:34:23 <Luigi12_work> not that multiple testers are bad, anyone is free to test it
19:34:55 <wilcal> is there a task-libreoffice?
19:35:13 <Luigi12_work> no
19:36:01 <tmb> Luigi12_work, ah, ok...
19:36:10 <Luigi12_work> LO update looks really good from the testing I just did
19:36:46 <wilcal> so just urpmi libreoffice should kick it off?
19:37:03 <Luigi12_work> wilcal: you don't have it installed already?
19:37:19 <lewyssmith> !
19:37:19 <DavidWHodgins> It's big. :-)
19:37:30 <lewyssmith> But very useful.
19:37:31 <Luigi12_work> yes the libreoffice-core subpackage is a large download
19:37:38 <wilcal> yes it is. So enable the update repo and then in an su terminal of the MCC urpmi libreoffice
19:37:45 <wilcal> or the
19:38:02 <Luigi12_work> wilcal: if you enable updates_testing, easiest way to install updates to test is to use MageiaUpdate, that way you can use the checkboxes to pick the right packages
19:38:21 <Luigi12_work> using urpmi will just mess up your orphans tracking anyway, and for things with multiple subpackages won't always work right
19:38:49 <lewyssmith> But if he has not got LO, it will not show in Updates.
19:38:52 <wilcal> Ya I remember getting really confused that last time I tried this
19:39:11 <Luigi12_work> lewyssmith: yes that's true, in that case urpmi would be fine if he didn't already have it installed
19:39:19 <wilcal> MCC libreoffice-core?
19:39:30 <Luigi12_work> wilcal: there's a "libreoffice" package, I'd go with that one
19:39:46 <wilcal> that should pick up all the packages to update?
19:39:58 <Luigi12_work> wilcal: if you already have it installed, use MageiaUpdate
19:40:01 <DavidWHodgins> wilcal: Note that MCC is not a command/program.
19:40:03 <lewyssmith> wilcal Bill: + Writer, Calc, Draw etc.
19:40:08 <Luigi12_work> if you don't already have it installed, urpmi libreoffice should be fine
19:40:20 <Luigi12_work> libreoffice should pull in writer, calc, draw, etc
19:40:35 <Luigi12_work> it's just a metapackage
19:40:39 <notMrsB> grr stupid t'internet
19:40:44 <Luigi12_work> basically like a "task-" without the stupid "task-" prefix
19:41:15 <DavidWHodgins> notMrsB: Welcome back!
19:41:37 <Luigi12_work> ooh, MrsB got kicked for "Excess Flood"  o_O
19:41:37 <DavidWHodgins> Oops! Too slow.
19:41:42 <MrsB> ahaa
19:41:50 <MrsB> sorry about that, it went very quiet all of a sudden and i was talking to myself :D
19:42:14 <Luigi12_work> that's no fun
19:42:20 <DavidWHodgins> What did you wan't to say?
19:42:30 <Luigi12_work> we were just talking about testing LO while you were gone; it looks to be in really good shape
19:42:39 <MrsB> I explained to hviane how to find the patch wasn't applied
19:42:57 <MrsB> did any of it get through?
19:43:08 <Luigi12_work> nope
19:43:14 <MrsB> d'oh!
19:43:23 <Luigi12_work> I was wondering about that too
19:43:35 <MrsB> <MrsB> hviaene: Using madb (or rpmdiff manually), click the RPMs link on the updates page. There is a diff link next to the src.rpm
19:43:37 <MrsB> [20:34] <MrsB> it shows the patch was added as Patch2 at the top but further down it wasn't applied, %patch2
19:43:38 <MrsB> [20:34] <MrsB> it's always worth checking when we know that something has been patched and not upgraded
19:43:40 <MrsB> [20:35] <MrsB> it's happened a few times with different things
19:43:56 <MrsB> you can check svnweb too
19:43:58 <Luigi12_work> ahh, nice
19:44:13 <MrsB> did radiotray/arista make it through?
19:44:22 <Luigi12_work> nope
19:44:25 <Luigi12_work> arista is broken
19:44:30 <MrsB> for gstreamer
19:44:45 <MrsB> oh herman lost connection now, i bet he missed it then
19:44:56 <Luigi12_work> radiotray says it's an online streaming player for online radios.  I don't think it would be playing any H.264 videos.
19:44:57 <wilcal> gotta find something else other then arista
19:45:15 <MrsB> $ urpmq --whatrequires gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad
19:45:17 <DavidWHodgins> Haven't most packages moved from svn to git now?
19:45:19 <Luigi12_work> is anyone sure that clicking the video file is just played by Firefox directly (via gstreamer)?
19:45:30 <Luigi12_work> MrsB: yeah I did that urpmq but it's not very helpful
19:45:42 <Luigi12_work> anything linked to gstreamer0.10 can use those plugins without explicitly requiring them :o(
19:45:46 <MrsB> most are gstreamer1.0 now i suppose
19:45:54 <Luigi12_work> not in mga4
19:46:01 <Luigi12_work> in mga5 we have done that, yes
19:46:11 <MrsB> oh ok. I guess we can check with strace but that'll be no fun playing videos
19:46:12 <Luigi12_work> DavidWHodgins: no, packages are still in SVN
19:46:33 <Luigi12_work> MrsB: you can reduce the amount of strace output by just selecting the open() system calls
19:46:36 <Luigi12_work> lemme look that up real quick
19:46:53 <MrsB> theres ltrace too but i've never got that to work
19:47:31 <Luigi12_work> ltrace is different, it tracks library calls
19:47:40 <Luigi12_work> although I think it can do system calls to with an option
19:47:59 <MrsB> hviaene: welcome back, we both pinged off then
19:48:01 <Luigi12_work> strace -e trace=open -o firefox.out -f firefox
19:48:13 <Luigi12_work> so the -e trace=open will give you just the open system calls and not all the other ones
19:48:21 <MrsB> I've explained how to find the patch wasn't applied ^^ up there, so it should be in the log
19:48:45 <hviaene> Tx
19:48:52 <DavidWHodgins> Luigi12_work: That helps to explain why I ran into problems trying to learn git, rpm packages, and the procedures associated with them for the simple copyiso2usb script.
19:49:19 <Luigi12_work> DavidWHodgins: yeah it's cumbersome packaging stuff from our software git right now
19:49:52 <lewyssmith> MrsB: Claire, when you did 'subversion', could you have done x32 rather than x64? Yes, it saved me; but x32 remains & I don't have it.
19:50:15 <MrsB> it's on the other computer or vbox so i could technically
19:50:20 <DavidWHodgins> Also, we use svn for the advisories. I kept mixing up which commands worked with witch.
19:50:29 <wilcal> FWIW MageiaUpdate libreoffice-core picks up 20 packages seems to be all of them
19:50:39 <MrsB> you need a 32bit VM lewis :)
19:50:50 <lewyssmith> I can live witout one...
19:50:57 <MrsB> nah
19:51:28 <DavidWHodgins> lewyssmith: You can install a 32 bit system even with a 64 bit cpu. Just need the disk space.
19:51:47 <Luigi12_work> wilcal: I don't think that will give you the actual applications
19:52:14 <Luigi12_work> "libreoffice" actually pulls in base, calc, draw, impress, math, and writer
19:52:24 <MrsB> experment with urpmq -ya and if it seems to pick up all you need then use it with urpmi -ya
19:52:56 <MrsB> it's not always helpful on 64bit as it picks up 32bit packages too
19:53:16 <lewyssmith> That can be a nuisance.
19:53:22 <Luigi12_work> libreoffice-core only pulls in opensymbol-fonts, ure, and langpack
19:53:35 <MrsB> yes, it's just one to remember, use judiciously
19:53:57 <DavidWHodgins> Experiment with it.
19:54:30 <MrsB> well done for bacula lewis btw
19:54:45 <lewyssmith> It still needs x32.
19:54:50 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Luigi's roundup
19:54:52 <MrsB> I'll validate that one unless there's anybody desperately wanting to test it 32bit?
19:55:13 <DavidWHodgins> MrsB: Go ahead
19:55:17 <MrsB> \o/
19:55:26 <MrsB> Luigi12_work: ping :)
19:55:38 <Luigi12_work> ooh
19:55:43 <MrsB> yep, your bit
19:55:56 * Luigi12_work filed 7 bugs today alone
19:55:59 <wilcal> note to luigi: took everything I use to 4.3.7.2.1
19:56:06 * MrsB noticed
19:56:08 <Luigi12_work> ok cool
19:56:59 <Luigi12_work> asked dimitrios to take a look at postgis since he last updated qgis which requires it
19:57:03 <Luigi12_work> no response from oden about pdns yet
19:57:35 <Luigi12_work> sqlite3 is packaged, havne't decided whether to push it now or wait for the next FF ESR update.  Oden pushed it now for MBS, so I might too.
19:58:03 <Luigi12_work> wordpress forgot the release the 3.9.6 tarball even though they were supposed to 3 days ago.  Not sure when they'll fix that.
19:58:11 <DavidWHodgins> What's MBS?
19:58:17 <Luigi12_work> Mandriva Business Server
19:58:19 <Luigi12_work> based on Mageia
19:59:05 <MrsB> I think we nee4d to move wordpress to the newer version
19:59:08 <MrsB> -4
19:59:18 <Luigi12_work> new security issue in curl, but we might not fix it for mga4.  Backporting past 7.37.0 looks to be too hard and too invasive, so Debian and Ubuntu have already punted on that one.  We still have an existing curl update to test and release.
19:59:27 <MrsB> it'll need the auto updater handling though if we do
19:59:32 <Luigi12_work> MrsB: well I totally agree about wordpress.  Question is who will do it.
19:59:52 <Luigi12_work> MrsB: the auto updater disabling can be done by syncing the patches from Fedora, which is what we already did for 3.9.x
20:00:16 <MrsB> worth a test package maybe
20:00:44 <Luigi12_work> yeah if someone decides to update it.  I'll have to bring it up on dev I guess.
20:00:55 <MrsB> yeah, best to i think
20:01:02 <Luigi12_work> there's yet another chrome update out, so as usual as soon as we push one update another is needed
20:01:15 <MrsB> one for wrw
20:01:23 <wilcal> almost as bad as shockwave/flas
20:01:25 <DavidWHodgins> If no reponses, drop the package
20:01:26 <wilcal> flash
20:01:32 <Luigi12_work> 389-ds-base update is coming (already built in mga4 updates_testing), just waiting for a freeze push in Cauldron
20:01:45 <Luigi12_work> tmb: I assigned bug 15800 to you for glibc
20:01:46 <[mbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15800 major, Normal, tmb, NEW , glibc new security issues CVE-2013-7423 and CVE-2015-1781, glibc-2.20-18.mga5.src.rpm
20:01:54 <Luigi12_work> so hopefully he'll assign that back to us soon (glibc)
20:02:22 <Luigi12_work> perl-XML-LibXML had an issue fixed upstream.  rindolf is the upstream maintainer, jq and sander85 take care of the Mageia package
20:02:42 <MrsB> #info wordpress tarballs are slow to appear, 3.9.6 still not available to fix critical issue. We really need to move it on to current releases.
20:02:54 <Luigi12_work> waiting on a freeze push for libtasn1, patched it for a heap overflow
20:03:22 <Luigi12_work> some issues in FlightGear's internal scripting language, not sure if mga4 is affected yet
20:03:26 <MrsB> #info chromium-browser-stable is coming again and libtasn1
20:03:42 <Luigi12_work> oh and new squid update from upstream should be available tomorrow
20:03:59 <Luigi12_work> fixing an SSL-certificate related issue
20:04:04 <MrsB> #info also 389-ds-base and squid. Possibly flightgear at some point.
20:04:48 <Luigi12_work> I also requested a freeze push for net-snmp, waited 2 weeks for the CVE assignment and no response, so I'm trying to get that one moving now
20:05:15 <MrsB> send a reminder if it's missed, people are just worn out and having a rest
20:05:56 <Luigi12_work> I pinged some people for some older waiting packages (ruby, glpi, dpkg, tcl-tcllib, erlang) today
20:06:12 <tmb> I'll go through the freeze push requests today
20:06:18 <MrsB> thanks tmb
20:06:30 <Luigi12_work> joequant said he'd update nodejs, I think it has a pending freeze push request
20:06:36 <Luigi12_work> so that could be coming soon for mga4
20:06:50 <Luigi12_work> also clamav has an update built for mga4, pending freeze push in Cauldron
20:07:06 <wilcal> I'm the clamav test king :-)
20:07:16 <Luigi12_work> I still need to bug ffmpeg upstream for a 2.0.x update, haven't gotten around to that
20:07:39 <Luigi12_work> ooh and I have a freeze push request pending for directfb, so that'll be coming to mga4 too
20:07:50 <Luigi12_work> year old bug finally got some fixes from opensuse (upstream was unresponsive)
20:07:52 <MrsB> #info coming soon too are clamav, nodejs & directfb
20:08:02 <MrsB> directfb is a new one i think
20:08:52 <Luigi12_work> phew, I think that's all
20:08:58 <MrsB> just those few
20:09:07 <lewyssmith> [Fingers crossed]
20:09:22 <Luigi12_work> yeah, just a drop in the bucket
20:09:31 <Luigi12_work> followed by a full bucket dumped on your head
20:09:33 <DavidWHodgins> Have to go back to sleep. Bye for now everyone.
20:09:35 <MrsB> So we really need a bit of a push now to clear the updates please everybody
20:09:43 <MrsB> nite Dave, thanks
20:09:52 <tmb> well, unfortunately there will be new sets of kernels after currrent ones are pushed
20:10:00 <Luigi12_work> crikey
20:10:03 <MrsB> hmmm
20:10:08 <tmb> more cves popped up
20:10:26 <MrsB> need those advisories then please
20:10:39 <MrsB> i'll check dkms stuff for the remaing ones tmrw
20:10:55 <tmb> either that or I respin all now, especially for those 3 not tested yet
20:11:04 <tmb> your call
20:11:32 <MrsB> they've only been done in vbox so far so you could do for those
20:11:50 <Luigi12_work> current main one has been sufficiently tested to push
20:11:59 <MrsB> yes, and linus
20:12:11 <lewyssmith> I agree about those 3: roll the two updates into one.
20:12:22 <Luigi12_work> I guess we can do the glibc update with the next round of kernels
20:12:35 <MrsB> so let's push main and linus and hold the rest back
20:12:48 <lewyssmith> Has glibc not just been done?
20:12:49 <tmb> yep, I still need to add the 3 more fixes for glibc
20:12:53 <Luigi12_work> mga4 has enough kernels for a full bag of popcorn
20:13:10 <Luigi12_work> tmb: Oden patched two issues in glibc already
20:13:16 <Luigi12_work> figured there might be more needed
20:13:28 <Luigi12_work> he just did mga4 obviously
20:13:53 <hviaene> Good night all
20:13:54 <tmb> Luigi12_work, yeah the 2013 one I had missed, the 2015 one I knew of, but its still 2  more
20:13:59 <MrsB> nite hviaene thanks
20:14:01 <Luigi12_work> wow, ok
20:14:29 <MrsB> Lets wrap the meeting up then
20:14:33 <Luigi12_work> indeed
20:14:44 <MrsB> thanks Luigi12_work for another wonderful roundup
20:14:53 <Luigi12_work> yes, quite round this time
20:15:06 * MrsB looks for Dave 8(
20:15:12 <lewyssmith> Thanks also for all your hard work.
20:15:16 <Luigi12_work> ahh mr. sleepy
20:15:27 <MrsB> #topic Anything else?
20:15:34 <MrsB> Is there anything else?
20:15:39 * MrsB has something
20:15:44 <Luigi12_work> me too
20:15:49 <MrsB> you go first
20:16:22 <Luigi12_work> if there's any packages that you've seen have unresponsive or no maintainers or are perpetually broken, please speak up (here or on QA-discuss list) so we can propose dropping before final mga5
20:16:40 <MrsB> we should check drupal
20:17:03 <Luigi12_work> drupal used to be maintained by Funda, I've been the de-facto maintainer in the interim
20:17:23 <MrsB> we've not updated it in 4 for a good while but that doesn't necessarily mean it's lacking maintenance of course
20:17:28 <Luigi12_work> it's not so hard to deal with as long as it's still drupal7 and it's just version updates, but it'd be easier for me not to have to deal with it at all :o)
20:17:40 <lewyssmith> Isn't that rather major to drop?
20:17:48 <Luigi12_work> yeah there's a new drupal upstream available, but it's just a bugfix release
20:17:56 <MrsB> yeah, well it's one of the easier ones to test so not bad to keep up to date
20:18:04 <marja> did anyone try to contact funda?
20:18:11 <Luigi12_work> marja: good question
20:18:34 <MrsB> #info has anyboyd tried to contact funda?
20:19:12 <MrsB> last i heard the great firewall was hampering him
20:19:21 <marja> :-/
20:19:36 <MrsB> on dev iinm. that was ages ago though
20:20:02 <marja> he did one or more freeze push requests in December 2014
20:20:10 <MrsB> #info if there's any packages that you've seen have unresponsive or no maintainers or are perpetually broken, please speak up (here or on QA-discuss list) so we can propose dropping before final mga5
20:20:46 <MrsB> So my news..
20:20:56 <MrsB> dorsync is now on mageia git
20:21:05 <marja> \o/
20:21:09 * Luigi12_work was bracing for much more dramatic newx
20:21:11 <Luigi12_work> news
20:21:26 <marja> Luigi12_work: a baby?
20:21:29 <MrsB> it previously lived on github and it's taken me since January to work out how to get it there (and find time/energy to do it)
20:21:36 <Luigi12_work> mga5 is our next baby
20:21:44 <marja> :-)
20:21:58 <MrsB> Sooo
20:22:04 <MrsB> Is there anythign else else?
20:22:11 <lewyssmith> Not here.
20:22:12 <wilcal> not from me
20:22:16 <tmb> just a fyi
20:23:00 <tmb> I will probably build a first set of final iso this weekend to get a headstart on working on some annoying bugs
20:23:22 <tmb> so dont panic when you see the announcement :)
20:23:26 <MrsB> info <tmb> I will probably build a first set of final iso this weekend to get a headstart on working on some annoying bugs
20:23:28 <marja> :-)
20:23:29 <MrsB> oops
20:23:32 <wilcal> CI Live Dual or just some?
20:23:35 <MrsB> #info <tmb> I will probably build a first set of final iso this weekend to get a headstart on working on some annoying bugs
20:23:45 <MrsB> that's a bit more than an fyi :P
20:24:00 <tmb> I build the live ones... ennael the CI ones
20:24:15 <tmb> I dont know if she will build anything yet
20:24:21 <MrsB> #info <tmb> so dont panic when you see the announcement :)
20:24:43 <lewyssmith> Do you expect us to *do* anything with them?
20:24:54 <MrsB> valid question :)
20:24:59 <tmb> MrsB, so you mean it was not "fyi", it was "FYI" :)
20:25:06 <MrsB> more a WTF
20:25:15 <MrsB> or PMG
20:25:17 <MrsB> OMG
20:25:18 <Luigi12_work> lol
20:25:26 <ennael> I'm around reading this :)
20:25:26 <Luigi12_work> Pwnies, My Goodness?
20:25:55 <Luigi12_work> http://mandrivachronicles.blogspot.com/2015/04/time-for-gratitude-big-thanks-mageia.html
20:25:56 <[mbot> [ Mandriva Linux Chronicles: Time for gratitude-- BIG THANKS, MAGEIA DEVELOPERS! ]
20:26:04 <tmb> Well, those that can reproduce the gnome crasher would be nice to test if you have time
20:26:11 <MrsB> just fyi omg lol
20:26:19 <Luigi12_work> :D
20:26:56 <lewyssmith> tmb: Is that not with Lives?
20:27:24 <MrsB> do you have the bug number
20:27:40 <tmb> and if you see one of your reported bugs listed as fixed you can verify them if you want...
20:28:23 <tmb> bug 15653
20:28:24 <[mbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15653 critical, release_blocker, tmb, REOPENED , Gnome LiveDVD 64 fails in live mode "Oh No. Something has gone wrong"
20:29:25 <MrsB> #info If you're affected by Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15653 Gnome LiveDVD 64 fails in live mode "Oh No. Something has gone wrong" - please help to test these early ISOs
20:29:26 <[mbot> Bug 15653: critical, release_blocker, tmb, REOPENED , Gnome LiveDVD 64 fails in live mode "Oh No. Something has gone wrong"
20:29:53 <tmb> anyway I will try to be specific of fixes that could use testing when I post announcements
20:30:14 <MrsB> yes please, that makes it much easier for people
20:30:34 <MrsB> let's wrap up then
20:30:41 <MrsB> Thanks for coming everybody
20:30:47 <MrsB> T - 5
20:30:54 <lewyssmith> Bonne nuit.
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20:31:02 <MrsB> #endmeeting