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20:06:52 <MrsB> Morning all, welcome to another one
20:07:03 <MrsB> #chair DavidWHodgins wilcal
20:07:03 <Inigo_Montoya> Current chairs: DavidWHodgins MrsB wilcal
20:07:04 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Who's new? If you are new then come and say hello!
20:07:17 <MrsB> Is there anybody new here today?
20:07:22 <olivier_cc> Good morning qa
20:07:30 <MrsB> morning olivier_cc
20:07:32 <lewyssmith> Bonsoir Olivier.
20:07:38 <MrsB> doesn't look like it Dave
20:07:45 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Mentoring update
20:07:50 <MrsB> thanks
20:07:58 <DavidWHodgins> https://wiki.mageia.org/en/QA_mentoring_page#Why_this_page_is_here
20:08:09 <wilcal> Update my guys on the mentoring page
20:08:20 <MrsB> morning hviaene
20:08:20 <wilcal> One is out Peter is active
20:08:25 <DavidWHodgins> wilcal: Should include the irc nick, in brackets.
20:08:43 <MrsB> Ahh cool, well done wilcal. He's confident testing updates?
20:08:55 <hviaene> Hi all
20:09:07 <DavidWHodgins> Hi Herman
20:09:30 <MrsB> Akien things ok with admel?
20:09:40 <DavidWHodgins> vladz: has been busy testing iso images. Haven't gone over updates testing with him yet.
20:09:48 <Akien> We just got started, he tested isodumper in the afternoon and then went on with virtualbox
20:10:00 <MrsB> yes, it's difficult still isn't it with so much time spent on isos
20:10:30 <Akien> He's not afraid of jumping in, so he should progress quickly if I'm available enough ;)
20:10:49 <MrsB> Let's go on then and keep revisiting this. Its more practical when we have more time on updates.
20:10:50 <Akien> Yeah currently I'm really focusing on release blockers triaging/dev motivating :)
20:11:04 <MrsB> keep doing it Akien
20:11:08 <DavidWHodgins> #topic RC - we're making progress
20:11:27 <MrsB> The big one :)
20:11:46 <lewyssmith> I agree with 'progress'.
20:11:48 <Brian_> my experience - much improved from beta
20:11:51 <wilcal> We need to really look at what are release blockers and what can be pushed into M6
20:11:51 <DavidWHodgins> Luigi12: posted a message about the release blockers to the dev mailing list.
20:11:58 <MrsB> We're starting to see some bugs being worked on and some fixes finding their way through
20:12:14 <lewyssmith> Even right to the ISOs !
20:12:30 <MrsB> ennael Akien what plans for the future?
20:12:45 <MrsB> and tmb :)
20:13:21 <Akien> IMO we should have another build for the RC, there are some recent fixes/new kernels that we want in
20:13:53 <wilcal> At least one, mabe two, more RC's
20:13:55 <DavidWHodgins> Also the latest openssl fix.
20:14:15 <Akien> ennael and I have a spreadsheet where we track the progress on the release blockers, and it's looking good
20:14:17 <tmb> there will be another round of isos yes, as soon as some of the efi fixes are tested
20:14:37 <lewyssmith> What remains there?
20:14:40 <Akien> We should soon be down to ~10 blockers
20:14:41 <wilcal> how's the uefi thing look'n lewys
20:14:53 <Akien> + some bad bugs that are not necessarily blockers, but still high priority
20:14:56 <MrsB> #info waiting on some tests for EFI fixes then there will be new ISOs
20:15:19 <lewyssmith> I have no rsidual problems other than missing virtual consoles, which may be due to video hardware.
20:15:33 <MrsB> your other two fixed now lewis?
20:15:44 <lewyssmith> Yes. And for Marja.
20:15:49 <wilcal> is uefi properly installled to a blank drive?
20:15:50 <MrsB> great!
20:16:06 <olivier_cc> and there are still bugs with the partitioning tool in EFI mode with live isos
20:16:07 <Akien> Basically we still have several bugs about GNOME not working on the first boot, etc.
20:16:09 <tmb> I'm currently going through a patchset from tv, and I have some other fixes for live medias I will try to squash
20:16:20 <lewyssmith> wilcal: Cannot say - I always use a pre-formatted drive.
20:16:33 <wilcal> killdisk a drive then try it
20:16:43 <Akien> We have an unknown (? at least to me) dev who proposed some patches for a couple blockers, so that's great
20:16:43 <DavidWHodgins> wilcal: Worked ok here, though that test was a few iso images ago.
20:16:49 <Akien> (patches to perl stuff... /me shivers)
20:16:57 <DavidWHodgins> :-)
20:17:02 <lewyssmith> wilcal: No thanks, I only have one.
20:17:12 <wilcal> killdisk.com
20:17:12 <MrsB> Akien: yes, looks like he knos his way around perl
20:17:16 <MrsB> knows
20:17:20 <Akien> It looks like UEFI should be great in the next RC build
20:17:39 <wilcal> will it work in a Vbox client
20:17:43 <tmb> Akien, patches for wich bugs ?
20:17:45 <DavidWHodgins> wilcal: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX bs=1M count=2
20:18:02 <Akien> bug 13894
20:18:03 <[mbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13894 normal, release_blocker, thierry.vignaud, NEW , When installing, showing package details, scrollbar does not work as expected, drakx-installer-stage2-16.47-1.mga5, gtk+3.0
20:18:07 <Akien> bug 13679
20:18:09 <[mbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13679 normal, release_blocker, thierry.vignaud, NEW , Diskdrake shows no partitions for sda (initially) when custom partitioning in 5alpha1 i586 live installer
20:18:09 <lewyssmith> wilcal: I think that is a red herring.
20:18:44 <wilcal> I'm still at least a month away here from real uefi hardware
20:18:54 <Akien> Both are assigned to tv so it would be nice to have his feedback on the proposed patches
20:19:41 <lewyssmith> wilcal: Bill, this time there are plenty of us with it.
20:20:13 <MrsB> #info Some patches from Martin Whitaker for possible inclusion
20:20:25 <Akien> We have a couple bugs about raid support, I don't know about those ones, that's mostly something for tmb :)
20:20:41 <tmb> the first one is somewhat a hack, the second one seems like a valid fix
20:20:43 <MrsB> hardware raid
20:21:21 <tmb> of course a hack can be accepted too if we cant fix it in any better way
20:21:47 <Akien> tmb: Yes, it looks like it's better than the current status, but not perfect either
20:22:07 <MrsB> pretty sure that's how t worked before anyway
20:22:16 <ennael> we have no other proposal for now and it did not move since a long time
20:22:30 <Akien> I also opened a "release blocker" tracker for Mageia 6 (yes, 6!): https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15527
20:22:32 <[mbot> Bug 15527: normal, Normal, bugsquad, NEW , [Tracker] Mageia 6 release critical
20:22:52 <Akien> Basically it's meant to keep track of nasty bugs that we sadly won't get fixed in time for Mageia 5
20:22:55 <tmb> yeah, I wll probably commmit them along with the other fixes from tv as soon as I have tested them
20:23:14 <Akien> So at least we can put them there so that we don't forget about them when we start working on Mageia 6
20:23:28 <MrsB> #info bugs which can't be fixed for this release will be added to a Mageia 6 release_blocker tracking bug so they won't be lost and can be tackled during early development in the next cycle
20:23:30 <Akien> It might prevent a hellish release cycle like this one if we can work on the bad guys from the start :)
20:23:46 <MrsB> \o/
20:23:50 <lewyssmith> It should always be thus.
20:24:05 <tmb> MrsB what hardware raid issues ?
20:24:10 <ennael> (should is not real life :) )
20:24:38 <MrsB> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15446
20:24:39 <[mbot> Bug 15446: normal, release_blocker, pterjan, NEW , MGA5 Installer targets wrong disk at partitioning step
20:25:08 <MrsB> see the later comments
20:25:12 <Akien> MrsB: A mention to "raid" should be added in the summary of this bug btw
20:25:31 <Akien> It has been well established that for non-exotic setup the installer works fine
20:25:31 <MrsB> yeah, feel free
20:25:39 <tmb> ah, that's not hardware raid, thats bios fakeraid / software raid
20:25:50 <MrsB> oh ok, that then :)
20:26:06 * MrsB never played with it
20:26:16 <tmb> but yes that's a nasty one, I will try to setup a testrig this WE
20:26:36 <MrsB> the reporter is vladz who is here and on qa-discuss
20:26:51 <vladz> I'm here!
20:26:57 <MrsB> there he is
20:27:10 <vladz> There are two parts to this
20:28:04 <lewyssmith> I think TonyB also has (or had) exotic raid.
20:28:04 <vladz> The first is a problem where erase and use entire disk erases the right disk but partitions a different one
20:28:25 <Akien> For the progress on release_blockers you can check: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12HmbcsHsX5Pb1xokqkde6kmgcW6beD2ClfyJtiMIEoQ/edit?usp=sharing
20:28:26 <[mbot> [ bugs-2015-03-16 - Google Sheets ]
20:28:39 <vladz> and secondly, the one that is  (incorrectly partitioned is a fake raid member
20:28:39 <Akien> I don't know if you'll have editing rights, so if you do, please don't wreak havoc :-p
20:30:50 <MrsB> tmb could you comment on board ML please btw
20:31:05 <Akien> The bugs in green are fixed or going to be fixed in the next round, orange is for bugs that are potentially not release_blockers, and blue ones are the ones making good progress
20:31:21 <Akien> The white ones are the ones ennael and I do not follow closely yet
20:31:33 <Akien> Or for which we have no clue :p
20:31:51 <MrsB> no colours for me
20:31:55 <DavidWHodgins> Too many white ones. :-)
20:32:20 <tmb> MrsB, what about board ?
20:32:22 <Akien> MrsB: In column H, maybe it's off-screen
20:32:23 <MrsB> oh, sorry. colours are on the right
20:32:47 <MrsB> board ML tmb, about stickers
20:33:14 * tmb goes reading a huge mail backlog
20:33:51 <MrsB> So we're making progress with ISOs and can expect more before RC is done
20:33:53 <DavidWHodgins> https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Commercial_vendors needs to be updated too.
20:34:15 <Akien> Yeah, and I think we'll have a RC which is a real release candidate :)
20:34:19 <MrsB> Is there anything else to add while we're talking about ISOs?
20:35:01 <Brian_> I am concerned about the printer issue I submitted this morning
20:35:27 <wilcal> I'm finished testing Vbox so next will be M5 printing
20:35:34 <wilcal> again
20:35:42 <DavidWHodgins> Brian_: That's something that should be able to be fixed with an update later.
20:35:49 <MrsB> system-config-printer is not on the ISOs themselves
20:36:24 <MrsB> What was the bug number Brian_ Akien might add it to his list
20:37:21 <Brian_> let me look
20:37:31 <DavidWHodgins> bug 15529
20:37:32 <[mbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15529 normal, Normal, bugsquad, NEW , Get error message when I run printer setup from Mageia Control Center, mageia-5-rc-i586-dvd (XFCE)
20:37:41 <MrsB> #info Please be sure to respond as quickly as you can to queries from devs on bugs you're a part of
20:37:59 <Brian_> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15529
20:38:00 <[mbot> Bug 15529: normal, Normal, bugsquad, NEW , Get error message when I run printer setup from Mageia Control Center, mageia-5-rc-i586-dvd (XFCE)
20:38:11 <MrsB> Dave beat you to it
20:38:15 <Brian_> lol good
20:38:16 <DavidWHodgins> :-)
20:38:19 <Akien> Brian_: Can you run system-config-printer from a terminal?
20:38:29 <MrsB> not during a meeting
20:38:30 <Brian_> I could
20:38:35 <Akien> This might be a red herring as per comment 5
20:38:53 <Brian_> well - I didn't install anything, so that means the iso is broken.  true?
20:39:02 <Akien> Wrong :)
20:39:17 <Akien> It means that we pushed a wrong package to cauldron, and you might have updated to the faulty version
20:39:39 <Brian_> hmm - don't think so.
20:39:41 <Akien> Can you give me the output of "rpm -qa | grep python3-requests" if you are on the affected machine?
20:39:53 <ennael> MrsB: is Dick Gevers  around these days ?
20:39:53 <Brian_> sure - did take updates after that
20:39:59 <Luigi12_work> rpm -q python3-requests would be much faster
20:39:59 <MrsB> The next ISOs will contain the fixed python3-requests Brian_
20:40:12 <Akien> Luigi12_work: True :)
20:40:32 <Luigi12_work> rpm -qa | grep something is almost never what you want to do
20:40:38 <MrsB> dvg has been around but not very active recently ennael,
20:40:44 <Luigi12_work> rpm -qa '*something*' is even faster than that
20:41:00 <ennael> MrsB: because we need some feedback for hdt bug
20:41:03 <Akien> Good to know, I always use the grep version :)
20:41:04 <DavidWHodgins> ennael: His latest bugzilla comment was one week ago.
20:41:05 <MrsB> ennael: I'll email him
20:41:11 <ennael> thanks
20:41:22 <ennael> I cannot reproduce this bug so we need him :)
20:41:30 <MrsB> he's had a bit of a hard time afk and was getting frustrated with testing
20:41:38 <ennael> ok
20:41:55 <ennael> erwan is a bit better and did some work this afternoon
20:41:58 <Brian_> [root@localhost brian]# rpm -qa | grep python3-requests
20:41:58 <Brian_> python3-requests-2.6.0-1.mga5
20:41:59 <Brian_> [root@localhost brian]#
20:42:04 <Brian_> yup
20:42:12 <wilcal> is the printer thing only in xfce?
20:42:14 <MrsB> I saw the comment, I'll drop him a line and see if he can test it
20:42:18 <Akien> Brian_: Ok, so you need to downgrade with "urpmi --downgrade python3-requests"
20:42:19 <ennael> ok
20:42:23 <MrsB> thank erwan
20:42:50 <ennael> also I just tested the patch proposed for scrollbar
20:43:03 <ennael> seems to me to be much more usable as it
20:43:20 <ennael> at least working locally here in vbox
20:43:29 <MrsB> better with the patch?
20:43:32 <ennael> yep
20:43:35 <MrsB> cool \o/
20:43:56 <ennael> so I can submit stage2 with this patch for next build
20:44:14 <MrsB> tv is waiting for new upgrades with new stage2 also i think
20:44:17 <ennael> at least we have something better
20:44:24 <ennael> yep
20:45:09 <MrsB> IIRC the scrollbar always stuck to the bottom, you could never scroll it up. AT least you could but it scrolled back down when the next package was installed
20:45:46 <ennael> you can  but it's not that easy
20:46:28 <MrsB> Does anybody want to add anything before we move on?
20:46:35 <olivier_cc> shall we expect grub being able to boot a MSWindows installation in EFI mode right after installation ?
20:46:40 <DavidWHodgins> Any eta for the efi testing/new iso images?
20:46:56 <DavidWHodgins> olivier_cc: Yes. os-prober has been fixed.
20:46:59 <Brian_> also - anyone test with AMD APU yet
20:46:59 <MrsB> there was a fix for that to os-prober olivier_cc
20:47:00 <Brian_> ?
20:47:03 <olivier_cc> nice !
20:47:16 <lewyssmith> olivier_cc: It ought to, even if it does not at present.
20:47:35 <Benmc> wilcal: 3 x DE i have tested in X86 classsic are affected by printer issue
20:48:03 <hviaene> I presumed there was a bu logged, for HP network printer not being recognized, but I cann't find it (anylmoer??)
20:48:11 <Benmc> rc dul is ok though
20:48:11 <hviaene> bug logged
20:48:16 <MrsB> have a go with AMD Brian_
20:48:32 <wilcal> I'll have a look at M5RC print in the next couple days
20:48:33 <tmb> for those testing in vbox on mga4, please use the vbox 4.3.26 from updates_testing (tracked in bug 15323), that way you can help test/validate that one too
20:48:35 <[mbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15323 normal, Normal, qa-bugs, NEW , Update request: virtualbox-4.3.26-1.mga4, virtualbox-4.3.26-1.mga4.src.rpm
20:48:35 <Brian_> ha - my poor daughter, her machine is going to disappear for a day!
20:48:48 <MrsB> tell her it's my fault
20:49:07 <DavidWHodgins> :-)
20:49:16 <Brian_> :-)  will do
20:49:27 <MrsB> #info <tmb> for those testing in vbox on mga4, please use the vbox 4.3.26 from updates_testing (tracked in bug 15323), that way you can help test/validate that one too
20:50:01 <MrsB> Shall we move one then?
20:50:08 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Testing updates - lots of updates :\
20:50:11 <MrsB> well done everybody :)
20:50:21 <wilcal> I just posted my todays testing of Vbox to bug 15323
20:50:31 <wilcal> looks pretty good
20:50:31 <Luigi12_work> still a confusing report
20:50:34 <MrsB> http://mageia.madb.org/tools/updates
20:50:37 <[mbot> [ Mageia App Db - Current Update candidates ]
20:50:39 <Luigi12_work> looks like you're installing host and guest packages on the same machine
20:50:51 <Luigi12_work> not sure if that's the case though, just confusing the way the report is written
20:52:19 <Luigi12_work> I'll test it probably Sunday
20:52:25 <MrsB> python-django is messing the list up a bit but in mageia 4, is there anything scary there?
20:52:46 <Luigi12_work> yeah probably premature to assign to QA since it's not pushed in Cauldron yet and there's no request written
20:52:56 <Luigi12_work> he built it in updates_testing in Cauldron so it actually needs to be moved by a sysadmin
20:52:58 <MrsB> yeah, could you hold it for now please david
20:53:02 <Luigi12_work> sure
20:53:05 <MrsB> tnx
20:53:44 <MrsB> isodumper is also ideal to test while we are dumping isos onto usb sticks
20:54:07 <Luigi12_work> all of the update candidates should have test procedures now, more or less.  I worked on that this morning.
20:54:13 <MrsB> thanks for that
20:54:24 <MrsB> Is there anything scary there guys?
20:54:32 <DavidWHodgins> I don't remember seeing python-rope before.
20:54:39 <Akien> Yes please test isodumper, especially the UEFI since we will advertise it for upgrades
20:54:42 <MrsB> i was going to look at that last week :\
20:54:50 <DavidWHodgins> The rest we've had before.
20:55:35 <MrsB> #info https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15422 EFI guys please test isodumper works as expected
20:55:37 <[mbot> Bug 15422: normal, Normal, qa-bugs, NEW , Update Isodumper to v0.41, isodumper
20:56:19 <DavidWHodgins> #info For isodumper, also ensure it doesn't suggest removing the stick, before the image has finished being written, for non-efi usb sticks.
20:56:29 <MrsB> So I'm guessing from the quiet that everybody can handle the updates there?
20:56:36 <MrsB> no worries?
20:56:52 <olivier_cc> Not yet :)
20:57:00 <MrsB> good :) let's do the roundup!
20:57:06 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Luigi's Roundup - another quiet week please David
20:57:09 <MrsB> thanks dude
20:57:09 <Luigi12_work> boo
20:57:21 <MrsB> Morning Luigi12_work
20:57:27 <Luigi12_work> greetz
20:57:41 <MrsB> so as per topic: another quiet week please
20:57:46 <Luigi12_work> hehe
20:57:53 <Luigi12_work> well we have django updates coming as you just saw
20:58:13 <MrsB> #info django updates coming - easy to test
20:58:25 <Luigi12_work> some php CVEs have started to trickle out, but we'll stick to upstream's release schedule, so that'll be when it'll be
20:58:37 <Luigi12_work> possibly after mga5 at this point
20:58:43 <MrsB> #info php update likely before long
20:59:03 <Luigi12_work> found an imagemagick bug myself while testing libtiff, so I'll have to find time to diagnose that one
20:59:13 <MrsB> nice work :)
20:59:55 <Luigi12_work> very minor gnutls CVE that I won't push out an update for, but the testsuite part of the patch is failing so it'd be nice to get some brains directed at that.  The fix will be included in whatever the next future gnutls update is, hopefully not soon :o)
21:00:18 <Luigi12_work> got a security issue for tcl-tcllib, which is an unmaintained package...
21:00:38 <Luigi12_work> more CVEs have been announced for ffmpeg, so I need to ask upstream to spin another 2.0.x release again
21:00:49 <MrsB> #info gnutls brains required by Luigi12
21:01:28 <Luigi12_work> also got patches for minor issues in gnupg/gnupg2 checked into SVN, but won't issue an update just for those.  It'll also be included in a future update, so nothing imminient hopefully.
21:01:44 <Luigi12_work> have a CVE for glusterfs, Spuhler was gonna work on that when he got back from skiing
21:01:56 <Luigi12_work> we should be able to borrow patches from OpenSuSE, so it shouldn't take long
21:02:21 <philippem> move asked for python-django
21:02:26 <Luigi12_work> have an issue in autofs, but the upstream patches don't apply to the older version we have in mga4, so that's a bit of a holdup
21:02:32 <Luigi12_work> philippem: thank you kindly!
21:02:35 <MrsB> #info updates coming for ffmpeg, tcl-tclib (unmaintained), gnupg/gnupg2, glusterfs
21:03:16 <Luigi12_work> still waiting on some older ones too.  chromium-browser-stable update is planned for after mga5 release.  Nodejs will have to get done after too.
21:03:17 <MrsB> #info autofs patches don't apply - packager help appreciated by Luigi12
21:03:34 <Luigi12_work> still waiting on a packager to fix hiawatha in mga4, wrongly bundled polarssl lib
21:03:42 <DavidWHodgins> gusterfs-server looks like it'll be fun to test.
21:03:47 <Luigi12_work> still waiting on upstream for socat
21:03:56 <MrsB> please don't pile things up for after if it can be helped, we'll be buried and will need a rest
21:04:02 <Luigi12_work> of course we'll have an update for setup (insecure permissions on /etc/shadow) hopefully SOON
21:04:24 <Luigi12_work> indeed, I've tried to get as many through before the release, some are up to other packagers though
21:04:36 <Akien> Luigi12_work: I don't understand what's taking so long for the setup update...
21:04:37 <MrsB> #info packager help also needed for hiawatha, wrongly bundles polarssl
21:05:08 <Luigi12_work> Akien: lack of interest mainly I guess, plus figuring out the exact correct fix was a bit more complicated than one might think
21:05:35 <Luigi12_work> there will also be a big update after mga5 for qt5/KF5/Plasma5
21:05:48 <MrsB> :(
21:05:51 <Luigi12_work> I would have liked to get that in before the release, but it didn't happen :o(
21:06:17 <MrsB> #info there will also be a big update after mga5 for qt5/KF5/Plasma5 - be much nicer if we can get this in before
21:06:48 <MrsB> not much for the coming week then at least
21:06:49 <Luigi12_work> whatever happened to RemyServices?
21:06:57 <MrsB> = Ages
21:07:06 <Luigi12_work> well, we'll see for next week.  A lot more landed this week than I expected unfortunately.
21:07:18 <MrsB> he gets busy as a windows admin, as you might guess ;)
21:07:33 <Brian_> \\
21:07:50 <Luigi12_work> anyway there was another upstream usermin release, so I was gonna see if Remy was willing to test it if I updated again.  Doubt it'd help, but could be worth a shot.  Really needs some love from a packager, but I guess there's a reason it hasn't been touched since it was imported into Mageia
21:07:55 <Luigi12_work> MrsB: indeed!
21:07:58 <Luigi12_work> well that's all I have
21:08:17 <DavidWHodgins> Thanks Luigi12_work
21:08:26 <lewyssmith> Seconded.
21:08:32 <MrsB> I'll get in touch with him when you're ready if he's not seen this David
21:08:39 <Luigi12_work> cool thankws
21:08:43 <Luigi12_work> -w
21:08:55 <MrsB> Thanks then Luigi12_work
21:09:01 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Anything else?
21:09:08 <wilcal> Not from me
21:09:09 <MrsB> Is there anything else?
21:09:12 <olivier_cc> Yes
21:09:17 <MrsB> I have something too
21:09:23 <lewyssmith> And me.
21:09:28 <olivier_cc> I saw we have ownCloud version 6 in mageia 4
21:09:46 <olivier_cc> It has some big security issues
21:10:23 <MrsB> We used to update it regularly, any word on that Luigi12_work? neoclust I think.
21:10:35 <Luigi12_work> we were hoping to get it updated to owncloud 8 before mga5, but no packager help there either
21:10:45 <Luigi12_work> it shouldn't have security issues in mga4, we've kept that up to date AFAIK
21:11:01 <Luigi12_work> yeah that's a blino/neoclust package
21:11:12 <MrsB> #info packager help needed for Owncloud in mga5
21:11:29 <MrsB> #info and possibly mga4 (security)
21:11:38 <DavidWHodgins> olivier_cc: Note that the version number is not what's important. What's important, is whether or not the security fixes have been backported.
21:11:53 <olivier_cc> Owncloud site advises not to use it anymore
21:12:18 <Luigi12_work> ahh I see a 6.0.7 is available upstream since March 11th with some security fixes
21:12:20 <Luigi12_work> I'll update it
21:12:30 <MrsB> now look what you did
21:12:35 <Luigi12_work> well mga4 will stay on Owncloud 6
21:12:41 <olivier_cc> Sorry for extra work :(
21:12:52 <MrsB> #info Owncloud mga4 update coming
21:12:52 <Luigi12_work> but like I said, mga5 currently has 7, but I'd like to get it to 8, but it's up to someone to package it, like...yesterday
21:13:45 <MrsB> Who's next then?
21:13:48 <MrsB> lewis
21:13:53 <lewyssmith> I was not happy to see the stopper bugs spreadsheet chez Google. I am clamming up on them. Is there no reasonable alternative? Like Framasoft? http://www.framasoft.org/ and https://framacalc.org/_start
21:13:54 <[mbot> [ Framasoft - Logiciels Libres ]
21:14:23 <MrsB> it's likely what was handy at the time
21:14:31 <MrsB> not designed to be used by us anyway
21:15:02 <MrsB> Please view it and admire and thank people as bugs get fixed but don't fiddle with it
21:15:12 <Luigi12_work> I've heard ZOHO is good for online office suite stuff
21:15:16 <Akien> lewyssmith: framacalc had been put down last month
21:15:27 <lewyssmith> It is back up. It's just a general thing I want to be no part of i.e. Google.
21:15:28 <Akien> Seems ethercalc is ever more unstable as etherpad
21:15:57 <lewyssmith> I find the PAD fine.
21:16:02 <Akien> lewyssmith: I agree 100%, but in this case ennael set up a spreadsheet and it's exactly what we needed to progress on the bugs
21:16:25 <Luigi12_work> practical considerations were most important here
21:16:28 <Akien> It's not meant as a long term tool, it's a *now or never* solution to get Mageia 5 out
21:16:37 <lewyssmith> OK, once off.
21:16:43 <Akien> Exactly :)
21:17:03 <MrsB> My turn then. My Mum is staying with us this week. Probably until Tuesday, so if I'm slow to respond, that's why.
21:17:04 <wilcal> time to ship M5 and go on to M6
21:17:24 <lewyssmith> One thing at a time, Bill, please!
21:17:28 <Brian_> tell Mum high for me!
21:17:33 <MrsB> lol will do
21:17:51 <MrsB> Is there anything else else else?
21:17:57 <DavidWHodgins> Not here.
21:18:01 <wilcal> not from me
21:18:03 <lewyssmith> No.
21:18:05 <Brian_> done
21:18:12 <olivier_cc> all OK here
21:18:24 <hviaene> OK for now
21:18:27 <MrsB> Keep testing then guys, well done so far. New ISOs coming but please try to keep on top of the updates list too!
21:18:35 <MrsB> T - 5
21:18:42 <MrsB> thanks everybody for being here :)
21:18:46 <wilcal> bye all
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21:18:53 <MrsB> #endmeeting