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20:09:36 <MrsB> Welcome everybody to another one
20:09:50 <olivier_cc> Morning sorry I'm late
20:09:55 <MrsB> #chair DavidWHodgins wilcal
20:09:55 <Inigo_Montoya`> Current chairs: DavidWHodgins MrsB wilcal
20:09:59 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Who's new? If you are new, come and introduce yourself
20:10:02 <MrsB> we just started, o/
20:10:17 <olivier_cc> Good :)
20:10:18 <MrsB> Is there anybody new here tonight?
20:10:47 <MrsB> doesn't look like it
20:10:50 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Mentoring update - poking mentors and "students"!
20:10:57 <MrsB> so mentors :)
20:11:03 <MrsB> how is it going?
20:11:16 <wilcal> Pete Larson is do'n great
20:11:26 <DavidWHodgins> I've been working with vlad on setting up test environments. Still a work in progress.
20:11:45 <MrsB> students, how is it going?
20:11:56 <MrsB> did we come up with a better word than students?
20:12:03 <Kernewes> victims?
20:12:11 <MrsB> maybe :)
20:12:17 <lewyssmith> I thought I had one, but if so he has not been in touch, & I have been away anyway.
20:12:28 <MrsB> still wet in wales?
20:12:28 <hviaene> In what category do I fall by now?
20:12:35 <lewyssmith> Expert.
20:12:45 <wilcal> aspirants?
20:12:48 <MrsB> you're a graduate now herman
20:13:04 <MrsB> in fact we have one or two new mentors ;)
20:13:08 <wilcal> Ya herman is definitely graduated
20:13:12 <hviaene> Tx for the honor
20:13:24 <wilcal> into nfs
20:13:47 <MrsB> so no major issues and things are progressing, that's the important thing
20:13:48 <DavidWHodgins> lewyssmith:  See https://wiki.mageia.org/en/QA_mentoring_page#Why_this_page_is_here - Stephane, for you.
20:13:50 <hviaene> wilcal: wait for my next e-mail!!!
20:13:58 <wilcal> :->
20:14:12 <wilcal> it's a very complex function and vital
20:14:12 <ennael> (hi there)
20:14:16 <MrsB> hi anne
20:14:49 <MrsB> let's move on then. I don't want to labour this, just helps to keep things moving
20:14:59 <DavidWHodgins> #topic RC - erm, yeah..
20:15:13 <wilcal> Is it really an RC?
20:15:21 <MrsB> it will be
20:15:22 <olivier_cc> I'm gonna give sad news
20:15:27 <wilcal> How much time we got?
20:15:32 <DavidWHodgins> We should have updated the development schedule during last monday's council meeting.
20:15:36 <MrsB> sad news?
20:15:45 <olivier_cc> I triggered the wrong disk partitioning bug
20:15:50 <olivier_cc> just now
20:15:54 <DavidWHodgins> Ouch!
20:15:59 <Kernewes> oooooh
20:16:02 <MrsB> hmmm
20:16:05 <tjandrews> Using an i586 RC install right now. So far, so good.
20:16:09 <lewyssmith> After getting the Classic DVD installed for the first time, there are still 3 bugs for me.
20:16:13 <DavidWHodgins> olivier_cc: Any raid involved?
20:16:19 <olivier_cc> sadly no
20:16:22 <olivier_cc> 2 hdd
20:16:35 <Kernewes> Using RC now, OK so far but haven't checked the printing again yet
20:16:43 <MrsB> Can you grab logs olivier_cc
20:16:49 <olivier_cc> just asked to use free space on the 2nd disk but it used the first
20:16:52 <wilcal> Would someone please explain the partitioning thingy
20:17:08 <olivier_cc> Mrs B: I should be able to do it
20:17:08 <lewyssmith> Which thingy?
20:17:23 <MrsB> you know how olivier_cc?
20:17:27 <wilcal> The problems encountered in install partitioning
20:17:36 <wilcal> I'm not see'n it here
20:18:07 <wilcal> maybe I'm look'n in the wrong place
20:18:13 <olivier_cc> Mrs B : I think if you try to install on second disk appearing in partioning tool that triggers it
20:18:31 <DavidWHodgins> The use free space is supposed to use free space from all disks, as I understand it. As long as it doesn't damage existing partitions, it's ok.
20:18:36 <MrsB> plug in a usb stick and switch to tty2 then type bug. It should copy report.bug onto the usb stick
20:18:45 <wilcal> So if you start with a clean disk ( killdisk.com ) you'll never see it
20:19:13 <MrsB> does it touch any existing partitions olivier_cc, or just use the free space?
20:19:16 <olivier_cc> david : it does not do it if you use free space on 1st disk
20:19:17 <DavidWHodgins> wilcal: If you have multiple disks, and only erase one of them, you may see it.
20:19:34 <olivier_cc> Mrs B : it does not, just reformatted previous swap
20:19:44 <wilcal> I always start with a blank drive
20:19:54 <MrsB> so it's using free space only, just using it on both hdd's?
20:20:06 <lewyssmith> wilcal: too safe, Bill.
20:20:09 <olivier_cc> if you choose the 2nd disk yes
20:20:26 <olivier_cc> but I haven't tried erase whole disk yet
20:20:46 <lewyssmith> That would not be typical.
20:20:48 <MrsB> Create a bug for it please, if we don't have one and add logs. It sounds like that it how it's designed to work, but it seems counter intuitive to me
20:21:03 <olivier_cc> thats vlads'bug, I'll add on it
20:21:05 <wilcal> what if i create using gparted a fat32 partition then run the install
20:21:23 <DavidWHodgins> olivier_cc: It depends on how much free space is on the first drive.
20:21:35 <olivier_cc> that's possible david
20:21:36 <wilcal> gimme a percentage
20:21:55 <wilcal> on say a 200gb drive I create a 100gb fat32 partition
20:22:04 <wilcal> then run the install
20:22:13 <lewyssmith> Bill, 300Mb for the ESP; that should not be a problem.
20:22:29 <wilcal> is this also a UEFI thing
20:22:40 <olivier_cc> Thierry made me try next stage2 yesterday
20:22:47 <olivier_cc> same problem with it
20:22:56 <lewyssmith> wilcal: You only need the ESP for EFI.
20:23:01 <olivier_cc> Thierry Vignaud*
20:23:29 <MrsB> It may be designed to work that way, but it's not how anybody would expect it to work imho.
20:23:42 <DavidWHodgins> wilcal: It isn't just fat32. The filesystem id has to be ef, not the normal vfat 1c.
20:23:58 <lewyssmith> Good point Dave.
20:24:01 <MrsB> As long as it's not causing corruption, or touching other partitions then it's just counterintuitive and not damaging
20:24:14 <DavidWHodgins> Agreed
20:24:29 <wilcal> ok how do i create, using gparted, a partition with an ef id?
20:24:41 <olivier_cc> Partitioning tool asking you to choose disk and using another one is really conterintuitive
20:24:43 <wilcal> or can i
20:25:08 <MrsB> yes I agree, and it's right that we have a bug report for it.
20:25:47 <MrsB> I don't expect it'll be fixed for mga5 unless it's causing corruption or touching existing partitions, instead of just using free space though
20:26:04 <DavidWHodgins> wilcal: I don't think gparted can do that (yet).
20:26:15 <olivier_cc> But I'm afraid option "use the whole disk" triggers the same response
20:26:22 <wilcal> hmmmm how can i simulate this
20:26:27 <MrsB> that will need to be confirmed
20:26:32 <lewyssmith> DavidWHodgins: What about gdisk?
20:26:44 <olivier_cc> that will be soon confirmed Claire :)
20:26:51 <MrsB> cool :)
20:26:54 <olivier_cc> or infirmed I hope
20:27:01 <MrsB> if that is the case then that is a nasty one
20:27:28 <wilcal> this is also something new that did not exist in M4.1?
20:27:45 <DavidWHodgins> lewyssmith: Looks like gdisk can do it.
20:27:45 <MrsB> maybe just never discovered until now
20:28:12 <wilcal> imo if this exists in M4.1 then it should not be a release blocker
20:28:12 <lewyssmith> wilcal: You are welcome to e-mail me privately about EFI/GPT stuff.
20:28:28 <wilcal> ok
20:28:37 <olivier_cc> do we have the same thing on non-EFI ?
20:28:55 <lewyssmith> More strictly, non-GPT.
20:28:55 <MrsB> no idea, but we can confirm that in vbox if necessary
20:29:14 <MrsB> could you look into that olivier_cc please, make it your bug
20:29:15 <olivier_cc> you are right Lewis
20:29:27 <lewyssmith> [Bow]
20:29:29 <MrsB> investigate it i mean
20:29:40 <wilcal> by this time next week i'd like to know if this existed in previous releases
20:29:41 <olivier_cc> Claire : I'll share this bug with Vlad who really discovered it
20:30:01 <MrsB> The 'use whole disk' one?
20:30:04 <olivier_cc> OK, i'll take it on me (Mageia4 +Mageia5)
20:30:17 <olivier_cc> no the use free space
20:30:22 <MrsB> One is counterintuitive, the other destructive, so they are separate issues
20:30:28 <olivier_cc> OK
20:30:37 <olivier_cc> so I'm going destructive then
20:30:43 <Kernewes> brave
20:31:02 <MrsB> I mean the 'use whole disk'. If that is real then it's a bug we need to fix.
20:31:22 <olivier_cc> understood Mrs B, you can count on me
20:31:28 <MrsB> thanks very much
20:31:40 <MrsB> CC me on any bugs you create for it please
20:31:50 <olivier_cc> will do
20:31:52 <DavidWHodgins> I suspect the use whole disk problem that vlad reported only affects systems with firmware raid, but can't confirm that yet.
20:32:18 <wilcal> we need to decide by next week if this is a release blocker or not
20:32:27 <MrsB> if what wilcal?
20:32:47 <wilcal> if it existed in the past live with it and fix it on M6
20:32:56 <DavidWHodgins> MrsB: The possible partitioning bugs.
20:33:07 <Luigi12_work> olivier_cc: the partitioning tool does *not* ask you to select a disk
20:33:14 <MrsB> we need to establish if it exists first
20:33:49 <olivier_cc> Luigi, it does, doesn't it ?
20:33:55 <Luigi12_work> olivier_cc: no it does not
20:34:02 <MrsB> #info olivier_cc will work to establish if selecting 'use whole disk' with 2nd hdd selected formats both drives
20:34:16 <olivier_cc> Luigi, can you explain ?
20:34:32 <Luigi12_work> olivier_cc: it does not ask you to select.  Look at it again (or look at the documetnation with the screenshots)
20:34:45 <MrsB> I disagree with your stand on this Luigi12_work
20:34:56 <Luigi12_work> then you're imagining things that aren't there
20:35:02 <olivier_cc> at least it makes you think you choose
20:35:06 <lewyssmith> It is easy enough to test without doing any damage.
20:35:10 <MrsB> in your opinion
20:35:19 <Luigi12_work> it's not opinion, it's fact
20:35:24 <MrsB> whatever
20:35:32 <Luigi12_work> and furthermore the whole discussion about it on the mailing list is moot, because it was based on an incorrect assumption
20:35:39 <Luigi12_work> Vlad wasn't even choosing the erase disk option
20:35:45 <MrsB> We're not talking about that
20:35:49 <Luigi12_work> I know
20:35:53 <Luigi12_work> but you're bring it back to that discussion
20:36:05 <MrsB> We've established two different things
20:36:19 <Luigi12_work> that the UI is confusing people
20:36:37 <MrsB> one, the 'use free space' using free space on two disks is counter intuitive
20:36:46 <Luigi12_work> no it's not
20:37:05 <MrsB> two, the 'use whole disk' *if* it wipes both disks then it's destrucive
20:37:08 <MrsB> yes it is
20:37:15 <Luigi12_work> it doesn't wipe multiple disks as it turns out
20:37:26 <Luigi12_work> barjac and pterjan have verified that
20:37:26 <MrsB> that's what we're testing
20:37:33 <Luigi12_work> feel free
20:37:41 <MrsB> I don't understand why you're so anti about this
20:37:46 <MrsB> you're not helping
20:37:53 <Luigi12_work> as far as using available free space, it makes no sense to limit it to one disk
20:37:59 <Luigi12_work> I'm not anti anything
20:38:03 <lewyssmith> Change subject: I have re-opened a bug on the disc partitioning UI about off-screen buttons.
20:38:03 <MrsB> no sense to you maybe
20:38:26 <Luigi12_work> if you want it to use available free space, why wouldn't you want it to use any available free space?  how does that make sense?
20:38:29 <olivier_cc> I think that the fact you choose a disk on top of the screen makes it confusing then Luigi
20:38:34 <MrsB> enough Luigi12_work please
20:38:36 <Luigi12_work> and I'm not anti anything
20:38:45 <MrsB> yes olivier_cc
20:38:59 <MrsB> What other issues do we have?
20:39:06 <Luigi12_work> I wish people would stop imagining things that aren't there, but anyway, obviously the UI needs some work
20:39:09 <wilcal> uefi
20:39:13 <MrsB> lewis what were your bugs?
20:39:13 <wilcal> where are we at
20:39:17 <Kernewes> doc team is discussing efi installing as well
20:39:18 <Luigi12_work> lewyssmith: that hasn't been fixed yet?
20:39:24 <Luigi12_work> I thought tv fiinally fixed it
20:39:41 <lewyssmith> There were 2bits, the main one *was* fixed.
20:39:56 <Luigi12_work> olivier_cc: yes that is confusing people
20:40:08 <wilcal> how's it look'n lewys?
20:40:15 <lewyssmith> My other bugs were: QWERTY keyboard when you do not have one...
20:40:30 <lewyssmith> and no vitual consoles in the installed system.
20:40:31 <marja> docteam is only discussing what to document
20:40:39 <marja> about efi-installs
20:40:56 <MrsB> Is the qwerty bug the old mixed locales one?
20:41:09 <lewyssmith> Probably.
20:41:17 <marja> but I'm starting to wonder whether it is end-user ready :-/
20:41:35 <MrsB> Is there a bug report for the missing tty's?
20:41:59 <lewyssmith> Anyway, I added to 3 bugs after installing at last M5 Classic.
20:42:03 <lewyssmith> Yes.
20:42:07 <MrsB> ok thanks
20:42:36 <lewyssmith> It makes it unuseable...
20:43:02 <MrsB> is it noted on the pad too?
20:43:06 <MrsB> havent looked today
20:43:07 <lewyssmith> All.
20:44:05 <MrsB> Anne any updates for RC before we move on?
20:44:10 <MrsB> ennael^^
20:44:27 <ennael> I'm about to build new isos with last updates
20:44:38 <ennael> but seeing list of bugs growing again :)
20:44:51 <Luigi12_work> flash-player-plugin needs pushed in Cauldron
20:44:59 <Luigi12_work> I think it's on the Live ISOs at least?
20:45:02 <MrsB> #info new classical isos are coming soon
20:45:11 <wilcal> good ole flash again
20:45:15 <Luigi12_work> yeah geez
20:45:22 <MrsB> no flash on isos afaik
20:45:31 <Luigi12_work> that's good
20:45:37 <wilcal> always in crisis mode
20:46:17 <MrsB> Any news from tmb ennael?
20:46:22 <DavidWHodgins> Luigi12_work: in the partitioning step, if a blank drive is selected, is does not show the erase and use entire disk. If a non blank drive is selected, it is shown, and in my test it does then show a message stating that the selected drive is about to be erased. In my test, only that drive was erased.
20:46:43 <Luigi12_work> DavidWHodgins: that confirms what barjac and pterjan said
20:47:14 <DavidWHodgins> I think vlad's problem was likey from selecting use free space, in combination with having firmware raid.
20:47:32 <Luigi12_work> I thought it was software raid
20:47:43 <DavidWHodgins> No. He's using intel firmware raid.
20:47:53 <Luigi12_work> ahh
20:47:57 <MrsB> can we move on from that
20:47:58 <DavidWHodgins> At least that's what he posted before.
20:48:10 <Luigi12_work> shouldn't hardware raid not have any problems?
20:48:17 <Luigi12_work> shouldn't the system only see what the RAID controller shows to it?
20:48:48 <DavidWHodgins> That's the problem. Apparently it's showing the raw disks too,.
20:48:57 <MrsB> #topic Testing updates
20:48:58 <Luigi12_work> sounds like a hardware bug
20:49:03 <wilcal> hardware raid what drives are behind it should be invisible
20:49:09 <Luigi12_work> exactly
20:49:14 <olivier_cc> proposition : can we investigate it further and maybe have a special meeting about that ?
20:49:21 <MrsB> Guys please
20:49:23 <Luigi12_work> don't think that's needed
20:49:26 <Luigi12_work> it's a corner case issue
20:49:33 <MrsB> http://mageia.madb.org/tools/updates
20:49:35 <[mbot> [ Mageia App Db - Current Update candidates ]
20:50:15 <MrsB> We've done quite well keeping on top of updates
20:50:36 <wilcal> Lucky unless Luigi is hold'n back
20:50:43 <MrsB> Are there any there to cause concern for anybody?
20:50:43 <Luigi12_work> nope
20:51:01 <hviaene> Yes
20:51:34 <hviaene> I disagree  with the way the virtualbox update is handled
20:51:47 <MrsB> ok, in what way?
20:52:20 <wilcal> how comfortable are we with the vbox update
20:52:37 <hviaene> VBox should be OK'd if it iruns any client system on an M4 host
20:52:57 <MrsB> partly
20:53:16 <MrsB> we also package the vbox additions as part of the update
20:53:18 <wilcal> yes but it should also be able to run an M5 client
20:53:19 <hviaene> If M4 is having problems as a client system, then is is an  M4  issue
20:53:26 <Luigi12_work> there's two sets of subpackages, one set is for the host, the other set is for the guest, we have to test both
20:53:33 <Luigi12_work> this is the second time we've run into problems on the guest side
20:53:53 <MrsB> the vbox additions are used in the client for mouse integration and a couple of other things
20:53:58 <Luigi12_work> hviaene: yes it is an M4 issue and it's an M4 update we're testing, and the issue is in the virtualbox code itself
20:54:03 <hviaene> If i can run on that box Mint or PClinux OS, then it is OK!
20:54:17 <MrsB> that shows the host is OK but not the additions
20:54:20 <Luigi12_work> that means the host part is OK, not the guest part
20:54:29 <Luigi12_work> as MrsB said
20:54:36 <hviaene> That's your guess
20:54:45 <Luigi12_work> the virtualbox SRPM contains not just the hypervisor, but the guest additions stuff too
20:54:49 <MrsB> we need to boot an mga4 client and install the updated additions packages in the client too
20:54:58 <hviaene> But that's no proof
20:55:05 <Luigi12_work> proof of what?
20:55:17 <hviaene> That VBox is at fault
20:55:20 <Luigi12_work> yes it is
20:55:35 <hviaene> You simply don't know
20:55:39 <Luigi12_work> if it works with 4.3.20 guest additions and not 4.3.24 guest additions, clearly that's where the regression lies
20:55:40 <Luigi12_work> we do know
20:55:49 <Luigi12_work> tmb even verified the changes that caused it
20:55:56 <Luigi12_work> unfortunately it still hasn't been fixed
20:56:08 <Luigi12_work> but there's a workaround for it (explicitly setting the resolution in xorg.conf)
20:56:24 <Luigi12_work> so he'll have to decide whether to push the packages and document the workaround or to try to get a proper fix
20:56:24 <hviaene> Do as you like, but I'm not convinced
20:56:50 <Luigi12_work> it's a pretty simple deal, the vboxvideo driver broke its resolution handling
20:57:05 <wilcal> I'll run a complete Vbox M4 install on M5 hardware this weekend
20:57:08 <Luigi12_work> it's not quite as serioius as the issue we ran into with 4.2.16 on mga3 where it broke vboxvideo completely and X wouldn't run
20:57:17 <Luigi12_work> it is annoying though
20:57:22 <MrsB> vbox has two halfs, half is the bit on the host, that's a kernel module and the virtualbox UI. The vbox additions add functionality to the client, such as being able to use the mouse in and out of the VM without having to free it with the host key, the vrdp (remote desktop)
20:57:32 <Luigi12_work> anyway it seems everything else is fine but that, so tmb will have to decide what to do about it
20:58:08 <lewyssmith> I think Bill will clarify it.
20:58:09 <MrsB> If both those two are fine then we can validate it. It's the current version in cauldron.
20:58:21 <Luigi12_work> the vboxadditions also add the ability for the guest to detect the VM window and screen size being used in the host and set the resolution based on that, that's the part that has the regression right now
20:58:38 <hviaene> Do you need new bugs on M4 flash plugin???shy
20:58:39 <wilcal> only on x86-64 though
20:58:55 <Luigi12_work> hviaene: Anssi filed a bug (already assigned to QA) for the Flash update
20:59:06 <Luigi12_work> wilcal: what's only on x86_64?
20:59:25 <DavidWHodgins> hviaene: bug 15480
20:59:26 <[mbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15480 normal, Normal, qa-bugs, ASSIGNED , Security update request for flash-player-plugin, to 11.2.202.451, flash-player-plugin
20:59:30 <wilcal> my vbox test platform
20:59:39 <Luigi12_work> oh, yeah mine's only i586
20:59:48 <Luigi12_work> that's why we have all of us :o)
20:59:49 <wilcal> my 32-bit platform is very Vbox impared
21:00:02 <DavidWHodgins> wilcal: See bug 44
21:00:03 <[mbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44 critical, High, erwanaliasr1, NEW , slow OS under VirtualBox, due to HZ=1000 (was mkinitrd fails in VB), syslinux, mageia-gfxboot-theme, drakx-installer-images
21:00:09 <hviaene> Mine is not a security issue, it's a functioan issue
21:00:21 <hviaene> functional
21:00:24 <MrsB> which issue hviaene?
21:00:26 <DavidWHodgins> Add divider=10 to the kernel options, in the guest, unless it's using the server kernel.
21:01:24 <lewyssmith> Please excuse that I must go: it is late & I have several things to do. So goodbye everyone.
21:01:29 <hviaene> movie play OK on the "original" site that published them, but not on onter sites that refer to the fisrst one
21:01:30 <MrsB> nite lewis
21:01:35 <wilcal> later lewys
21:01:36 <olivier_cc> bye lewis
21:01:53 <MrsB> I've seen that too hviaene, black window with only parts showing?
21:02:02 <hviaene> Yes
21:02:12 <MrsB> i've seen it reported elsewhere too, it's an upstream flash issue though
21:02:28 <hviaene> I guessed so
21:02:35 <MrsB> i guess it's to do with it being an older version
21:03:04 <DavidWHodgins> Adobe doesn't care about linux.
21:03:08 <MrsB> there's nothing really we can do with flash other than make sure it works
21:03:33 <MrsB> Are there any other problems in the list?
21:03:51 <DavidWHodgins> By works, that means the package installs cleanly, then downloads and installs the latest update from Adobe.
21:03:56 <MrsB> yes
21:04:13 <MrsB> you can check on abode site it is the latest version being used
21:04:20 <DavidWHodgins> Problems within flash itself have to be reported to Adobe, though they are unlikely to do anything.
21:04:54 <MrsB> Let's move on then and do the roundup
21:05:09 <wilcal> It's luigi time
21:05:12 <hviaene> I gave up on the python-rope affair, way too cpomplicated for me
21:05:15 <MrsB> #topic Luigi's Roundup
21:05:29 <MrsB> i'll have a look at that then hviaene
21:06:08 <MrsB> Luigi12_work: ping
21:06:09 <Luigi12_work> oh hello
21:06:19 <Luigi12_work> sorry, doing too many things at once :o)
21:06:22 <MrsB> hello :)
21:06:40 <Luigi12_work> so here's what I have since last time
21:07:18 <Luigi12_work> hiawatha bundled its own copy of the polarssl library, which has had security issues, so that will need to be built against the system polarssl in mga4 (already fixed in Cauldron)
21:07:35 <Luigi12_work> it requires some different compile time options in polarssl itself, so we'll have to rebuild both for the mga4 update
21:07:42 <MrsB> don't recall seeing that before
21:07:52 <Luigi12_work> yeah I don't remember hiawatha either
21:08:13 <MrsB> #info hiawatha bundled its own copy of the polarssl library, which has had security issues, so that will need to be built against the system polarssl in mga4 (already fixed in Cauldron)
21:08:27 <Luigi12_work> I probably mentioned nodejs last time, not sure when joequant will update that
21:08:55 <MrsB> #info nodejs still waiting on joequant
21:08:57 <Luigi12_work> chromium-browser-stable had some regression that the maintainer (cjw/spturtle) found, so last I heard he was checking the newer upstream bugfix release to see if they fixed it
21:09:11 <MrsB> cool, well done them
21:09:36 <wilcal> wow many thanks luigi
21:09:37 <Luigi12_work> mono should be coming soon, it was assigned to QA but I assigned it back to the maintainer, the update required three patches and he only had added one, so he said he's working on fixing it
21:09:44 <MrsB> #info chromium-browser-stable had some regression that the maintainer (cjw/spturtle) found so they're looking into it
21:10:11 <MrsB> saw that yes
21:10:37 <MrsB> #info mono is coming, can be tested with banshee media player
21:10:45 <Luigi12_work> autofs has a security issue related to executable automounter maps written in Python.  The patches failed to apply on autofs 5.0.7 in Mageia 4, so that'll take some time
21:10:52 <Luigi12_work> indeed, banshee is a really good test case for Mono
21:11:13 <Luigi12_work> hopefully it has some music service that it can connect to via SSL/TLS that you can use for testing this update, since it affects the TLS implementation
21:11:53 <Luigi12_work> also a new security issue in glusterfs, spuhler said he'll update it after the Mageia 5 release, so we'll get to test it on two releases
21:12:13 <Luigi12_work> think he's leaving for a trip, so he's busy currently
21:12:28 <Luigi12_work> that's all I have that's new
21:12:48 <DavidWHodgins> Thanks Luigi12_work. We'd have a lot of problems without you.
21:13:10 <MrsB> #info autofs coming but some difficulty patching, glusterfs after mga5 release
21:14:21 <MrsB> so it looks like nothing major is imminent, which probably means there will be 4 or 5 new ones by morning ;)
21:14:32 <DavidWHodgins> lol
21:14:37 <Luigi12_work> LOL
21:14:39 <Luigi12_work> I sure hope not
21:14:52 <Luigi12_work> I'm hoping to not have many more that I'm dying to get into mga5
21:14:58 <Luigi12_work> of course who knows how soon mga5 will finally be ready
21:15:00 <wilcal> we need time to look at the new isos
21:15:11 <MrsB> thanks Luigi12_work
21:15:17 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Anything else?
21:15:23 <wilcal> not from me
21:15:24 <MrsB> Is there anything else?
21:15:29 <Kernewes> not here
21:15:30 <hviaene> Yes
21:15:32 <DavidWHodgins> Nothing else here.
21:15:35 <olivier_cc> i'm good
21:15:41 <DavidWHodgins> herman, go ahead.
21:15:59 <hviaene> While looking around for info how to test things
21:16:24 <hviaene> I stumbled upon soma Mageia "Test C&ase Wiki"
21:16:44 <MrsB> there are some there, not many but some
21:16:59 <hviaene> Which is not referenced in  the QA-process document
21:17:15 <DavidWHodgins> The wiki entries are usually only created for packages that are very difficult to test.
21:17:16 <hviaene> Is that wiki still being maintained?
21:17:24 <MrsB> yes it is, if you click the 'Wiki' link on the madb list page it searches the testcases on the wiki
21:17:43 <MrsB> we're better at testing than creating wiki pages :(
21:17:52 <hviaene> I'v never found itt that way
21:18:01 <hviaene> I found them via Google
21:18:06 <Kernewes> hviaene: a lot of packages don't have entries yet
21:18:08 <MrsB> Try it with libtiff
21:18:20 <hviaene> Pardon?
21:18:28 <MrsB> on the madb list page
21:18:33 <DavidWHodgins> Click on the wiki link in http://mageia.madb.org/tools/updates  and, if there is a wiki entry for that package (rare), it'll be shown.
21:18:36 <[mbot> [ Mageia App Db - Current Update candidates ]
21:18:39 <MrsB> click the Wiki link on the right hand side against libtiff
21:18:41 <hviaene> Oh
21:18:49 <hviaene> Tomorrow
21:19:10 <Luigi12_work> olivier_cc did a great job testing the PoC's
21:19:22 <Luigi12_work> I added all the patches OpenSuSE did from upstream, but I don't know how they got those patches
21:19:32 <Luigi12_work> seems upstream just has a CVS server, but no web interface or anything
21:19:41 <Luigi12_work> if anyone could help figuring that out, I'd appreciate it
21:19:56 <olivier_cc> thanks but I've seen I forgot 2 CVEs on libtiff
21:20:20 <Luigi12_work> yeah those were in the follow-up message on oss-security
21:20:28 <olivier_cc> those ones yes
21:21:05 <olivier_cc> I'll downgrade libtiff and look at that
21:21:13 <tjandrews> FWIW, I'm liking what I see so far in the i586 Mageia 5. Eager for the official release so I can put it on my brother's desktop.
21:21:31 <DavidWHodgins> hviaene: Also, see qa testing procedures on https://wiki.mageia.org/en/QA_Team_portal
21:21:55 <MrsB> yeah me too tjandrews, I'm planning to set up a new server
21:22:10 <MrsB> Is there anything else else?
21:22:11 <wilcal> Looks pretty good except for the two biggies
21:22:20 <wilcal> not  from me
21:22:23 <Luigi12_work> yeah Mageia 5 seems to work great
21:22:26 <Kernewes> not from me
21:22:26 <olivier_cc> nothing else else
21:22:32 <MrsB> T - 5 then
21:22:39 <MrsB> Thanks for comign everybody
21:22:42 <wilcal> bye all
21:22:46 <MrsB> keep testing!
21:22:47 <hviaene> bye all
21:22:50 <MrsB> 4
21:22:52 <MrsB> 3
21:22:53 <MrsB> 2
21:22:55 <MrsB> 1
21:22:56 <MrsB> #endmeeting