20:06:39 <MrsB> #startmeeting 20:06:39 <Inigo_Montoya> Meeting started Thu Jan 8 20:06:39 2015 UTC. The chair is MrsB. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:06:39 <Inigo_Montoya> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 20:06:42 <caskyline10> OK 20:06:58 <MrsB> #chair DavidWHodgins wilcal 20:06:58 <Inigo_Montoya> Current chairs: DavidWHodgins MrsB wilcal 20:06:59 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Who's new? - If you are new then come and say hello 20:07:05 <MrsB> tah 20:07:07 <Kernewes> Dave's going to be Dave today :) 20:07:12 <MrsB> Is there anybody new here today? 20:07:15 <MrsB> yes :) 20:07:17 <caskyline10> Yes 20:07:24 <MrsB> hi caskyline10 20:07:30 <caskyline10> I am joining for first time 20:07:38 <MrsB> welcome to the qa team 20:07:51 <MrsB> as you've seen we're quite relaxed and friendly 20:07:52 <caskyline10> Thanks 20:07:58 <caskyline10> yep 20:08:15 <MrsB> Say a few words to introduce yourself and everybody else will do the same 20:08:43 <DavidWHodgins> I'm Dave Hodgins, from London, Ontario, Canada. Background in IBM mainframe software design and devlelopment. Been a deputy leader of the Mageia qa team since the team formed. 20:09:05 <caskyline10> OK I am Mike, I live in San Francisco Bay area. Used Mageia since release 1 20:09:06 <MrsB> I'm Claire, current team leader, 21(ish) from the deepest darkest Black Country, Uk. 20:09:17 <Kernewes> very ish 20:09:22 <MrsB> shoosh 20:09:35 <DavidWHodgins> ☺ 20:09:37 <wilcal> "wilcal" for (Wil)liam in (Cal)ifornia, live near San Diego ( Surf City USA ) 20:09:37 <wilcal> First official College computer class in Sept 1964, Computer Engineer 1968 20:09:53 <hviaene> Herman Viaene Belgium, age does not matter anymore 20:09:57 <Kernewes> I'm Carolyn fron Cornwall, UK, 21-even-more-ish, can only help occasionally unfortunately 20:09:59 <MrsB> lol 20:10:17 <caskyline10> I went to Ohio State Mechanical Engineer 1996 20:10:17 <wilcal> All help is great help 20:10:25 <lewyssmith> I am Lewis, a Celtic expat living in France, in computers since they were huge. 20:10:28 <wilcal> Great school 20:10:48 <wilcal> Hugs to French people here today 20:10:48 <MrsB> Akien is a mechanical engineer now too I believe 20:10:48 <remyservices> Hello, David Remy, Colorado Springs, Colorado, USA. Work as a Windows server admin in a 10k client base, also maintain 600 security cameras and access systems. Use linux heavily and am starting to do pentesting. Do what I can to test, but just linger around as much as I can. 20:10:49 <brian_> I'm Brian from the USA - fly over state known as Illinois. 20:10:54 <DavidWHodgins> I started programming in high school in 1975. 20:11:10 <brian_> I'm new to this group also 20:11:22 <brian_> TRS80? 20:11:39 <Akien> Yes I'm an energy engineer for hire :-) 20:11:43 * mga5b2gazer is Paul from UK working in computer security, long time user of unix/aix/linux using Mageia since when it was Mandrake... ;-) 20:11:51 <DavidWHodgins> I started with a Honeywell 100/5. 20:12:07 <MrsB> no Olivier today? 20:12:14 <hviaene> Someone sooner than 1971 on computers ? <brag> 20:12:16 <Kernewes> haven't seen Len either 20:12:17 <caskyline10> My first system was a Texas Instrument TI994A 20:12:30 <DavidWHodgins> 16KB of ram, two disk drives, a printer, card reader, and a card punch. 20:12:31 <MrsB> Len emailed me earlier, he has some personal things going on 20:12:55 <lewyssmith> hviaene: 1969? 20:12:58 <wilcal> Anybody here besides me work on computers with core memory 20:13:05 <lewyssmith> Me. 20:13:05 <hviaene> Beaten 20:13:17 <hviaene> Core, yes 20:13:25 <hviaene> 16K blocks 20:13:25 <wilcal> 4k was a LOT of memory 20:13:33 <MrsB> it's like an old folks home :D 20:13:41 <DavidWHodgins> Yes. the 100/5 used core memory. You could see the individual rings if you took the cover off. 20:14:08 * mga5b2gazer first computer was a KDF9 20:14:22 <hviaene> Block, literrally, one 19 ich rack 20:14:23 <MrsB> mine was a bbc model b 20:14:58 <MrsB> Welcome to the team caskyline10 20:15:04 <Kernewes> and brian 20:15:24 <MrsB> brian it's not your first time is it? 20:15:30 <caskyline10> Thanks I hope I can help well 20:15:31 <brian_> second I think 20:15:38 <brian_> usually I show up after everyone left ;-) 20:15:43 <MrsB> lol 20:15:44 <Kernewes> ah, first time was when I wasn't here then 20:15:50 <MrsB> did we find you a mentor yet? 20:16:09 <brian_> yes - WilCal - 20:16:13 <MrsB> ok cool 20:16:23 <wilcal> doing well 20:16:24 <brian_> I've been meaning to drive over and get a tan 20:16:29 <MrsB> we need to find you a mentor then caskyline10 20:16:37 <caskyline10> OK 20:16:44 <MrsB> wilcal/Dave ? 20:16:53 <MrsB> your sort of timezone I think 20:17:02 <caskyline10> Yes Pacific time 20:17:14 <DavidWHodgins> If email only support is ok, I can do it. My address is davidwhodgins@gmail.com 20:17:43 <DavidWHodgins> I'm normally only on IRC during meetings. 20:18:09 * mga5b2gazer would like to offer 1 minute silence for the Charlie Hebdo journalists 20:18:18 <MrsB> is that Ok for you caskyline10? 20:18:25 <MrsB> in a minute mga5b2gazer 20:18:26 <caskyline10> yes agree 20:18:57 <MrsB> if you send Dave an email he'll get you started 20:20:05 <caskyline10> I have noted his email 20:20:38 <MrsB> Welcome again then. We don't believe in stupid questions so please never be afraid to ask if there is anything you don't understand 20:20:48 <hviaene> What is a "gazer", there are so many around? 20:20:56 <MrsB> you can either ask Dave or here on IRC or qa-discuss ML 20:21:12 <caskyline10> OK 20:21:47 <MrsB> gazers stare at things 20:22:12 <MrsB> Let's move on then 20:22:20 <caskyline10> what is the link to the page that we can show what hardware and equipment we have at home to test 20:22:30 <DavidWHodgins> It's also a program used in game packages like edgar. 20:22:47 <MrsB> https://wiki.mageia.org/en/QA_iso_hardware_list 20:22:56 <MrsB> I'm not usre how up to date it is though 20:23:10 <caskyline10> thanks 20:23:33 <mga5b2gazer> so, the story is I had an old friend whose name was stirzaker and nicknamed stargazer. I liked that as a nick but it is usually already used so i modified it for other variants) 20:24:26 <DavidWHodgins> To update the list, you have to use the identity.mageia.org to create an account, then log in to the wiki and edit it. 20:25:05 <MrsB> #topic Beta 2 20:25:21 <MrsB> we'll have a mentoring update next week 20:25:46 <wilcal> Are we going to have another round of iso's? 20:26:03 <MrsB> So ennael can't be here today and tmb is not very well, so I'm not sure how much use we'll be here 20:26:17 <DavidWHodgins> wilcal: Likely. 20:26:23 <MrsB> I think at least live isos will need another round 20:26:37 <wilcal> I'm pretty happy with them right now and wait for next round to do full installs on hardware 20:26:49 <MrsB> we're considering whether we'll need a beta 3 too 20:26:58 <Luigi12_work> any reason we would? 20:27:02 <tmb> yep, atleast live medias will be rebuilt, and maybe classical too to pick up the uefi support 20:27:03 <MrsB> not least, to give more time for EFI integration. 20:27:13 <Luigi12_work> things seem to be in good shape for the most part. Just minor glitches here and there. 20:27:18 <Kernewes> I had one quick look at b2 live kde 64-bit and it wouldn't reboot after installation, is that what others have found? 20:27:18 <MrsB> woah, tmb IS here! 20:27:21 <wilcal> Ya the EFI thing is put'n a drag on everything 20:27:24 <MrsB> hi tmb :D 20:27:53 <MrsB> I didn't see you join 20:27:57 <tmb> t:) 20:28:03 <hviaene> I have an issue with nfs, that is a pain since some time (MGA I think) 20:28:23 <hviaene> MGA3 I mean 20:28:30 <wilcal> nfs is working here and I really check that all the time 20:28:47 <hviaene> nfs client? 20:28:59 <wilcal> well both server and client 20:29:15 <Luigi12_work> hviaene: have you tried running an older kernel to see if that helps? One other user reported as such in bugzilla 20:29:18 <hviaene> It workedd OK in Alpha's 5 20:29:22 <MrsB> #info At least Live ISOs will be rebuilt, maybe Classical too to pick up EFI support 20:29:32 <wilcal> Next round I will do a complete install on hardware and that will include nfs server and client 20:30:02 <hviaene> OK, wait and see 20:30:17 <wilcal> also FWIW last M5 cups update took out the printing capability oh well 20:30:26 <hviaene> Luigi, no I never went that way 20:30:54 <Luigi12_work> wilcal: I can still print 20:30:59 <Kernewes> wilcal: ouch 20:31:31 <wilcal> I'm gonna wait for the next round when I do a complete hardware install before cry'n wolf 20:31:41 <hviaene> Printing gets OK via Cups web 20:32:11 <hviaene> And thren I can manipulate in MCC 20:32:45 <MrsB> test everything you can think of :) 20:32:48 <wilcal> Kobi works and really well :-)) 20:32:58 <MrsB> Has anybody experimented with upgrades from mga4 yet? 20:33:12 <remyservices> no 20:33:12 <MrsB> i think Luigi12 did 20:33:16 <caskyline10> no not myself 20:33:17 <DavidWHodgins> Not yet here. 20:33:26 <brian_> not yet 20:33:27 <hviaene> Neither 20:33:28 <MrsB> We need to begin that really 20:33:40 <brian_> sure - okay to try by VM first? 20:33:54 <wilcal> I'm having a big problem with one M5 package 20:33:59 <caskyline10> I will try it 20:34:05 <MrsB> It's easiest at this stage to use a VM yes and take a snapshot, install a load of random stuff and then upgrade 20:34:19 <remyservices> i will try yo do a HyperV MGA4 VM to MGA5 some time this week 20:34:19 <Kernewes> did anyone else find the B2 live KDE wouldn't reboot after installation? 20:34:22 <MrsB> you can then roll it back to the snapshot and install some different random stuff 20:34:29 <Luigi12_work> MrsB: yes I've run three mga4 upgrade tests, no upgrade packaging issues 20:34:34 <MrsB> great, thanks remyservices 20:34:40 <Luigi12_work> also just done general testing of a lot of stuff in mga5 and it's working pretty well 20:34:40 <wilcal> Flightgear 3.2 = addiction 20:34:50 <Luigi12_work> I have one more upgrade test planned 20:35:02 <DavidWHodgins> wilcal: :-) 20:35:11 <MrsB> One thing we need to check is E17 as the task meta package was renamed to task-enlightenment 20:35:53 <MrsB> and xmbc which is now kodi 20:36:19 <wilcal> Ya and it works very well on M5 even on my old i586 machine 20:36:31 <MrsB> upgrades i mean though 20:36:43 <hviaene> E17??? Motorway??? 20:37:26 <MrsB> #info Luigi12 has done some upgrade testing and so far so good. Please all run some of your own. 20:37:45 <MrsB> it's enlightnment desktop, task-e17 20:37:58 <brian_> I'll make a copy and give it a try 20:38:07 <brian_> Then maybe do ancient hardware test. 20:38:23 <MrsB> just try with random packages too, go through MCC and randomly click on stuff 20:38:26 <brian_> of course at my pace <<snail> 20:39:01 <hviaene> Priority to B2 or updates? 20:39:22 <MrsB> both ideally hviaene. You're doing wonders with updates at the moment 20:39:25 <DavidWHodgins> hviaene: We have to do both. :-) 20:39:42 <MrsB> if you want to concentrate on those for now it's fine 20:39:59 <hviaene> MrsB Ok 20:40:12 <MrsB> it really helps to keep them ticking over while we're ISo testing. Prevents us having a huge list when the ISOs are released 20:40:21 <DavidWHodgins> As there will be new iso images, probably best to concentrate on updates for now. 20:40:28 <MrsB> yes 20:40:35 <MrsB> We're in good shape though really 20:40:45 <caskyline10> I will do some update testing also 20:40:54 <wilcal> embedded rpmdrake in MCC is rendering black with some non-english locales 20:40:54 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11969 20:40:54 <wilcal> Is still a serious problem and really can't get fully vetted without a 20:40:54 <wilcal> wide release of M5B2. It's a release blocker. 20:40:56 <[mbot> Bug 11969: critical, release_blocker, olav, ASSIGNED , embedded rpmdrake in MCC is rendering black with some non-english locales, gtk+3.0 20:41:19 <wilcal> gotta find out how many machines are effected 20:41:20 <MrsB> yes, there are a few blockers. It's still beta though and there is time for fixes 20:42:03 <lewyssmith> "When it is ready" was the maxim. 20:42:04 <MrsB> #info when we hit release freeze packagers will need to target the bugs 20:42:17 <MrsB> or before :) 20:42:20 <hviaene> Up to now I installe dmy test instances in English, would it be preferable that I do it in Dutch? 20:42:34 <lewyssmith> Yes, definitely. 20:42:37 <MrsB> perhaps hviaene 20:42:39 <MrsB> yeah 20:42:58 <wilcal> Cauldron is not for the faint of heart! 20:42:59 <wilcal> Caution: Hot, bubbling magic inside. May explode or cook your kittens! 20:43:25 <MrsB> tmb: Is there anything you'd like to say about ISOs before we move on? 20:43:40 <tmb> nope... 20:43:55 <MrsB> Anybody else? 20:44:21 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Testing updates - http://mageia.madb.org/tools/updates 20:44:23 <[mbot> [ Mageia App Db - Current Update candidates ] 20:44:26 <MrsB> thanks :) 20:44:46 <MrsB> You can see the list of updates waiting for us in the link there 20:45:06 <hviaene> On languages: is anyone doing tests in French? 20:45:17 <wilcal> http://mageia.madb.org/tools/updates 20:45:19 <[mbot> [ Mageia App Db - Current Update candidates ] 20:45:21 <MrsB> pip is easy, curl has a procedure 20:45:50 <MrsB> i'll add some links to the bugs after the meeting 20:46:01 <lewyssmith> hviaene: I imagine so, there are several French testers. 20:46:05 <MrsB> I would imagine so hviaene but do if you want to 20:46:14 <wilcal> Nice job to everyone for the last round of updates that went out 20:46:31 <wilcal> some critical stuff there 20:46:43 <MrsB> yes alot of potential breakage 20:47:17 <wilcal> kernel + nvidia + Vbox always makes me nervious 20:47:29 <MrsB> there were a few reports of nvidia problems but i tend to think it's largely mirror or perhaps orphan related 20:47:48 <wilcal> no prob here 20:48:28 <lewyssmith> The drakgw bug 14775 needs clarification. It looks simple, but is already at 31 comments! 20:48:30 <[mbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14775 normal, Normal, qa-bugs, NEW , drakgw: web-browser can only access outside world through https, drakx-net 20:48:52 <wilcal> I see more then me testing kernel + nvidia + Vbox and that's really nice 20:49:04 <DavidWHodgins> "urpmf --whatrequires libmpfr4" shows it's required by many packages. For that one, I think just testing that the packages that require it will run is enough testing. 20:49:59 <MrsB> yes, with strace to show it loading the library 20:50:41 <MrsB> libopencv need the right hardware really, I have it i think but it's testing beta2 recently 20:52:25 <MrsB> drakgw is the connection sharing isn't it. We might be limited in the testing we can do for that, but you can configure vbox with multiple network adapters 20:52:38 <DavidWHodgins> /proc/cpuinfo does have ssse3 on my x86_64 system. 20:54:15 <MrsB> soem info here https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14775#c23 20:54:16 <[mbot> Bug 14775: normal, Normal, qa-bugs, NEW , drakgw: web-browser can only access outside world through https, drakx-net 20:55:18 <MrsB> apart from that one, are there any that look scary? 20:55:53 <MrsB> anybody have a TV card? 20:56:08 <wilcal> Any movment to get those backport bugs off of there 20:56:30 <MrsB> still need sysadminy stuff doing wilcal 20:56:38 <hviaene> Not really a card, a USB Genius TV Go 20:56:53 <MrsB> that might work hviaene, for vdr 20:57:04 <MrsB> bug 14948 20:57:05 <[mbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14948 normal, Normal, qa-bugs, ASSIGNED , Update request: vdr-2.0.3-3.1.mga4, vdr-plugin-live-0.3.0-2.1.mga4, vdr, vdr-plugin-live 20:57:08 <DavidWHodgins> wilcal: I think they just need the advisories uploaded, and the sysadmins to finish the procedure for handling backports. 20:57:19 <hviaene> OK, I'll have a look at it 20:57:25 <MrsB> great :) 20:58:00 <MrsB> there are not that many there at the moment are there, things are going very well \o/ 20:58:03 <DavidWHodgins> hviaene: See the urpmq -i vdr output for a link to info. 20:58:58 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Luigi's Roundup 20:59:02 <Luigi12_work> boo 20:59:03 <DavidWHodgins> ping Luigi12_work 20:59:10 <MrsB> WooOoOooo 20:59:10 <hviaene> Noted, my mentor 20:59:15 <DavidWHodgins> :-) 20:59:58 <wilcal> wow no critical security bugs on the list 21:00:08 <lewyssmith> Shhhh 21:00:26 <MrsB> For those new to the team, Luigi12_work is David Walser, you'll see alot of him. He builds most of our security updates 21:01:22 <caskyline10> Hi David 21:01:34 <hviaene> @@### the nicknames 21:02:34 <MrsB> think we scared him off 21:03:03 <DavidWHodgins> Or he's composing a really long list of updates expected. :-) 21:03:12 <MrsB> nahhh he wouldn't do that 21:03:48 <Luigi12_work> oops sorry 21:03:56 <Luigi12_work> someone was talking to me here at work 21:04:07 <MrsB> don't they know we're having a meeting 21:04:12 <Luigi12_work> only one on the expected list currently is openssl, they released an advisory upstream today 21:04:15 <DavidWHodgins> There have been a lot of cve requests on the oss-security.lists.openwall.com mailing list. 21:04:15 <Luigi12_work> MrsB: lol, seriously 21:04:24 <Luigi12_work> DavidWHodgins: yes there have been 21:04:47 <DavidWHodgins> php, privoxy, cpio, etc. 21:04:50 <Luigi12_work> I've checked patches for elfutils and coreutils into mga4 SVN, but waiting to see if any other distro actually issues an update for those before I do, they didn't sound like serious issues 21:04:58 <Luigi12_work> php will be handled in the next php update from upstream 21:05:02 <Luigi12_work> privoxy we already updated 21:05:18 <MrsB> php update that's not file related? 21:05:29 <Luigi12_work> cpio, along with some others (arj and gcab come to mind) are about archive extraction software that allows extraction to overwrite files outside of the target directory 21:05:34 <Luigi12_work> wilcal already validated gcab 21:05:50 <wilcal> yup went well and a nice little proceedure there 21:05:53 <Luigi12_work> I haven't patched arj yet, there was only a "proposed" patch, so I was waiting for another distro to issue an update or upstream to accept the patch 21:06:08 <Luigi12_work> not sure what other ones there along those lines off the top of my head 21:06:16 <MrsB> #info may be updates for elfutile and coreutils coming, but php and cpio coming soon 21:06:43 <Luigi12_work> undo that 21:06:48 <MrsB> #undo 21:06:48 <Inigo_Montoya> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.items.Info object at 0x85a070c> 21:06:58 <wilcal> next kernels for 4.1? 21:07:05 <Luigi12_work> so I don't know for elfutils and coreutils, the patches are in SVN, but I have no immediately plans to push an update. Waiting to see what other distros do. 21:07:19 <Luigi12_work> PHP won't happen until upstream releases the next version, dunno the ETA for that 21:07:29 <MrsB> #Updates for php and cpio coming sometime soon-ish 21:07:37 <MrsB> oops 21:07:41 <Luigi12_work> cpio was only mentioned maybe yesterday as possibly having some extraction issues, but there's no patches yet, so we'll see on that 21:07:44 <MrsB> #info Updates for php and cpio coming sometime soon-ish 21:07:57 <Luigi12_work> so possibly not soon-ish in either case 21:08:04 <Luigi12_work> not worth an info item just yet 21:08:06 <MrsB> #info possibly 21:08:25 <Luigi12_work> arj may be sooner since there's already a proposed patch, but again, no need for an info item just yet 21:08:34 <Luigi12_work> only need one for openssl as that'll hopefully actually be soon 21:08:37 <MrsB> nothing really loowing then? 21:08:40 <MrsB> looming 21:08:42 <Luigi12_work> hoping to get some backported patches from fedora or rhel 21:09:23 <brian_> ?? is arj the old archiver tool from the 90's? 21:09:27 <Luigi12_work> yeah 21:09:51 <DavidWHodgins> It still just works mostly. 21:10:04 <brian_> :-) I think I quit using it in the 90's 21:10:19 <brian_> wow - let me know if you need someone to play on that 21:10:27 <DavidWHodgins> I mostly use xz now. 21:10:43 <MrsB> me too when i can remember how to use it 21:10:50 <DavidWHodgins> :-) 21:11:13 <MrsB> a short list this week Luigi12_work 21:11:30 <Luigi12_work> yeah, it's a pretty dead time of year with holidays 21:11:33 <DavidWHodgins> Thanks Luigi12_work 21:11:34 <Luigi12_work> things might pick up soon 21:11:39 <MrsB> no worries ;) 21:11:47 <DavidWHodgins> Hopefully not too much. :-) 21:11:50 <Luigi12_work> especially with all the fuzzing going on (and the continued investigation of archive extraction issues) 21:12:07 <Luigi12_work> yeah hope not too, I like when it's relatively dead out on the internets 21:12:20 <lewyssmith> Let sleeping dogs lie... 21:12:25 <MrsB> yep 21:12:39 <MrsB> Thanks then Luigi12_work 21:12:42 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Anything else? 21:12:50 <MrsB> Is there anything else? 21:12:54 <DavidWHodgins> Nothing else here. 21:12:55 * MrsB looks at wilcal 21:13:01 <lewyssmith> mga5b2gazer: Thanks for your Charlie Hebdo gesture 21:13:03 <wilcal> Nothing from here 21:13:14 <caskyline10> This meeting is at 12PM noon in my time 21:13:16 <wilcal> wants to go back to Flightgear 3.2 :-)) 21:13:17 <lewyssmith> mga5b2gazer: KDF9! Puts you up there with Bill (wilcal). I started on System 4s. 21:13:24 <caskyline10> I may not be able to make it every week 21:13:45 <Kernewes> nothing here 21:13:46 <MrsB> FYI - Mageia is posting a charlie tribute to our social media accounts 21:13:51 <wilcal> Usually always somebody on this channel 21:13:52 <Kernewes> caskyline10: I don't either 21:14:00 <DavidWHodgins> caskyline10: That's fine. The links to the logs are posted to the mageia-discuss mailing list after each meeting. 21:14:13 <caskyline10> OK good thanks 21:14:29 <hviaene> Soon going to sleep, good night everyone 21:14:36 <marja> hviaene: good night 21:14:37 <MrsB> T - 5 21:14:39 <Kernewes> me too, good night everyone 21:14:40 <DavidWHodgins> hviaene: Have a good night. 21:14:42 <wilcal> nite 21:14:44 <caskyline10> bye 21:14:46 <MrsB> Thanks for coming guys 21:14:46 <brian_> bye 21:14:48 <lewyssmith> Bon fin de soirée. 21:14:49 <marja> Kernewes: good night 21:14:51 <MrsB> 4 21:14:52 <DavidWHodgins> Same for everyone else. 21:14:52 <MrsB> 3 21:14:54 <MrsB> 2 21:14:55 <MrsB> 1 21:14:58 <MrsB> Same time next week! 21:15:03 <MrsB> #endmeeting