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20:03:20 <DavidWHodgins> #chair wilcal MrsB
20:03:20 <Inigo_Montoya`> Current chairs: DavidWHodgins MrsB wilcal
20:03:28 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Who's new? If you are then come and say hello
20:03:54 <DavidWHodgins> Anyone here who has not been in a qa team irc meeting before?
20:03:54 <brian_> I guess I'm new - definitely don't know what I'm doing
20:05:06 <brian_> anything you want to know?
20:05:19 <DavidWHodgins> brian_: Welcome. Introduce yourself, including things like where you are, and your background.
20:05:27 <wilcal> Well we all don't know what were doing from time to time :-))
20:05:48 <brian_> sure - I'm based in the Central U.S.A, Illinois and a small town outside of St. Louis
20:05:55 <DavidWHodgins> It is a constant learning experience on the qa team.
20:05:59 <brian_> we call those fly over states
20:06:05 <Kernewes> :)
20:06:18 <brian_> yes our governors in Illinois normally go to jail.  They don't really make our license plates
20:06:21 <brian_> though
20:06:42 <wilcal> Yep, Illinois/Chicago has a checkered background
20:06:47 <olivier_cc> intersting place :)
20:06:55 <brian_> I've been a consumer of Linux since 2007.  Started on Mandriva, went to Ubuntu, tried all kinds of flavors
20:06:57 <olivier_cc> interesting*
20:07:00 <wilcal> Think Al Capone
20:07:43 <brian_> I tried Mageia 3 and was impressesd and recently decided I should contribute something back.
20:07:58 <DavidWHodgins> I'm in London, Ontario Canada. Been using linux for about 10 years now. My background prior to that was in IBM mainframe software development.
20:08:03 <brian_> I'll try not to waste to much of your time in the process.
20:08:19 <Kernewes> don't worry, I waste lots of their time
20:08:43 <brian_> yup - did CICS, AS400, PC Development, Java, C, C++ but those got erased with my mgmt training
20:08:51 <DavidWHodgins> Don't be afraid to ask questions. The only bad questions are those that are not asked.
20:09:03 <olivier_cc> welcome Brian. I'm Olivier in France (Alps), linux user for 12 years
20:09:29 <wilcal> Skiing  season nice
20:09:37 <brian_> <envious>
20:09:43 <olivier_cc> when there is snow ...
20:09:44 <Kernewes> Carolyn in Cornwall, UK, occasional helper
20:09:52 <dvg_i> dick gevers from central netherlands. 12 years mdv & mga. old man
20:10:00 <wilcal> "wilcal" for (Wil)liam in (Cal)ifornia, live near San Diego ( Surf City USA )
20:10:01 <wilcal> First official College computer class in Sept 1964, Computer Engineer 1968
20:10:25 <tarazed> Len from Edinburgh - UNIX since 1990, Linux 1996.
20:11:44 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Beta 2
20:12:21 <wilcal> Todays M5B2 i586 Classic Installer looks pretty good here
20:12:33 <DavidWHodgins> How are people making out? I've been having trouble syncing. It keeps stalling at around 40% of the first iso.
20:12:37 <wilcal> I got a full Vbox install with many apps working
20:12:52 <tarazed> Major probllem with USB3.0 - not supported in the installer.
20:12:55 <Tonyb_> x86_64 downsized yet?
20:12:57 <brian_> installed gnome-586-dvd seems fine
20:13:00 <Kernewes> Haven't managed to do a thing with B2 yet unfortunately
20:13:01 <MrsB> Morning QA
20:13:05 <dvg_i> sync is great. 3rd build is best yet
20:13:07 <Kernewes> she's back :)
20:13:12 <wilcal> M5B2 x86-64 CI still is broken with no KDE
20:13:13 <MrsB> sorry about that
20:13:20 <DavidWHodgins> HiYa Claire
20:13:21 <olivier_cc> Morning Claire !
20:13:31 <dvg_i> 64 bit is still 2nd build
20:13:37 <dvg_i> 3rd expected soon
20:13:43 <tarazed> From USB2.0 no problem, USB3.0 is dead
20:13:46 <dvg_i> per ennaels mail
20:14:01 <olivier_cc> same problem as tarazed with dual iso
20:14:41 <wilcal> k that explains that
20:14:42 <MrsB> The ones to test at the moment are classic DVD i586 and the dual dvd
20:15:00 <wilcal> That one works pretty good for me MrsB
20:15:06 <wilcal> In Vbox anyway
20:15:17 <MrsB> Ought to be testing on real HW now really
20:15:20 <wilcal> spent a couple hours with it this morning ( here )
20:15:48 <tarazed> Sorry, on USB2.0 system USB3.0 stick works fine, not on USB3.0 system
20:16:16 <tarazed> I ahve no USB2.0 devices to test isos
20:16:19 <wilcal> I'll run it up on real hardware this afternoon
20:16:21 <brian_> mine was a hardware install - just one unusual item
20:16:24 <MrsB> is there a bug for the USB 3 issue?
20:16:38 * MrsB didn't see it on the pad
20:17:14 <tarazed> Yes but nobody seems to have noticed yet
20:17:23 <MrsB> do you know the bug number?
20:17:34 <tarazed> #14799
20:17:42 <olivier_cc> what unusual item brian_ ?
20:17:44 <DavidWHodgins> bug 14799
20:17:44 <MrsB> bug 14799
20:17:45 <[mbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14799 major, Normal, sysadmin-bugs, NEW , Regression in USB3 support in mga5 beta2 ISOs
20:18:38 <DavidWHodgins> While that would block release of a rc or final release, I don't think it should block a beta.
20:19:08 <brian_> @oliver - when I first opened liveDVD-Gnome-586 it kept saying <something went wrong>  I had to choose protected mode Kernel to get it to open
20:19:15 <brian_> afterwards it all worked fine
20:19:15 <tarazed> It just means that I cannot test half my machines
20:19:24 <DavidWHodgins> Note that there has been some discussion on the dev mailing list about delaying release for another month, and adding a beta 3.
20:19:37 <Kernewes> sounds sensible
20:20:18 <MrsB> there we go, that'll get noticed len :)
20:20:25 <brian_> I'm slowly working through the icons and confirming they work (gnome - yuck)
20:21:06 <olivier_cc> there is indeed a few issues on gnome live isos
20:21:11 <MrsB> well done brian_
20:21:21 <tarazed> KDE4 DVD 64bit looks good
20:21:26 <MrsB> the live isos need some love still don't they
20:21:27 <DavidWHodgins> I just started my sync script again. It's showing about an hour to finish the first iso.
20:21:46 <wilcal> IMO if we can get the M5B2 x86-64 CI to go I'd turn it loose
20:21:51 <MrsB> kde livecd is about 50Mb too big
20:21:58 <dvg_i> incredible. we are in the space age?
20:22:15 <wilcal> And how old is the CD?
20:22:30 <dvg_i> less than half an hour for all isos here
20:22:43 <dvg_i> from scratch
20:24:17 <MrsB> #info Classic DVD 32 is looking OK. Plenty of bugs but no showstoppers
20:24:35 <DavidWHodgins> I'm only getting about 250 kB/s on the download. Normally it would be around 555 kB/s. My dsl connection keeps dropping every once in a while for 10 to 30 seconds. rsync doesn't like that!
20:24:43 <MrsB> #info There's an issue with usb 3.0 support in the installer
20:24:51 <MrsB> #info live isos still need some love
20:25:23 <dvg_i> DavidWHodgins: Maybe look for a better ISP
20:25:44 <MrsB> is there anything else we should note in the meeting logs
20:26:23 <DavidWHodgins> dvg_i: I think it's probably a problem with the telephone line, not the isp.
20:26:37 <olivier_cc> that seems to sum it up well Claire
20:27:00 <dvg_i> DavidWHodgins: ask for a new cable then?
20:27:15 <MrsB> pad appears to be down atm
20:27:28 <DavidWHodgins> dvg_i: That will likely have to wait until spring
20:27:41 <olivier_cc> no pad here either
20:27:45 <MrsB> #info https://pad.riseup.net/p/mageia5beta2 Please remember to make good use of the pad
20:28:12 <MrsB> Anybody anything to add at this stage?
20:28:25 <olivier_cc> when will it be decided to have a Beta 3?
20:28:31 <wilcal> I really wanna see the next x86-64 CI
20:28:43 <wilcal> will I see that today or tomorrow
20:28:44 <MrsB> after beta2 olivier_cc
20:28:59 <DavidWHodgins> wilcal: Likely tomorrow.
20:29:04 <wilcal> Thanks David
20:29:14 <wilcal> I've a pretty empty weekend
20:30:05 <MrsB> we need to see bugs being fixed now, but it's Christmas and alot of people are taking time away so it's difficult. We need the RC to be a real rlease candidate though as there is not long between the RC and the final, so if there is not much activity we may need to consider beta 3
20:30:43 <DavidWHodgins> The pad is not connecting from here.
20:30:49 <MrsB> dead pad
20:30:52 <brian_> <my thought> - I concur.  Otherwise you might get a hard review on Distrowatch
20:30:54 <dvg_i> same here
20:31:12 <Kernewes> or in the mags
20:31:15 <DavidWHodgins> Better to be late, then bad.
20:31:34 <Kernewes> although Linux Format arrived today stating that the final M5 should be out by now :)
20:31:38 <MrsB> Is there anything else to add about beta 2, or shall we move on?
20:32:32 <MrsB> #topic Testing updates
20:32:58 <MrsB> We're not doing badly with keeping on top of the updates
20:33:03 <wilcal> Lots of "OK"'s there
20:33:13 <wilcal> look'n pretty good MrsB
20:33:25 <wilcal> I still touch at least 1/day
20:33:36 <MrsB> if you do get some spare time and no ISOs to test though please have a look at them
20:33:38 <MrsB> yeah
20:33:52 <wilcal> Try to pick on the red Security updates first
20:34:09 <MrsB> that's the way to do it, start at the top and work down
20:34:11 <wilcal> Many thanks to olivier too nice job
20:34:13 <olivier_cc> I saw jasper went to critical
20:34:29 <MrsB> http://mageia.madb.org/tools/updates for the list
20:34:31 <[mbot> [ Mageia App Db - Current Update candidates ]
20:34:52 <MrsB> Herman and Olivier are both doing really well, congratulations both of you
20:35:09 <olivier_cc> I like the green light on madb, :)
20:35:09 <wilcal> Either one of you guys in school?
20:35:34 <olivier_cc> too old for that wilcal
20:35:53 <MrsB> there are lots there waiting to be validated by the looks of it, so we're well on top of things at the moment
20:35:55 <wilcal> I wanna go back to the 6th Grade
20:36:08 <DavidWHodgins> :-)
20:36:20 <DavidWHodgins> Not me. :-)
20:36:44 <MrsB> there is a procedure for jasper, we've done that one before
20:37:27 <MrsB> i think you can add the OK's for nail
20:37:33 <olivier_cc> brian_ : are you OK with qa-testing ?
20:37:56 <olivier_cc> OK, I'll do it Claire, thanks
20:38:32 <MrsB> i'll sort the advisories out after the meeting and get them validated
20:39:51 <brian_> sorry - had to look down - yes
20:40:06 <MrsB> brian_: do you have a mentor yet?
20:40:18 <brian_> no - just a psychologist  ;-)
20:40:21 <MrsB> lol
20:40:35 <MrsB> wilcal: you're similar timezone
20:40:48 <MrsB> would you be mentor for brian?
20:41:04 <olivier_cc> And a good psychologist too wilcal
20:41:09 <DavidWHodgins> Cat woke up. Be back shortly
20:41:28 <MrsB> hungry kitty
20:42:33 <MrsB> wilcal went to sleep
20:42:51 <brian_> wilcal - how do you want to talk?
20:43:20 <MrsB> I'd send him an email brian_
20:43:22 <olivier_cc> psychologists listen more than they talk apparently
20:43:44 <brian_> I never was a good psychologist
20:43:52 <olivier_cc> lol
20:43:55 <DavidWHodgins> Back
20:43:58 <MrsB> is there such a thing?
20:44:03 <wilcal> I'm back multitasking here
20:44:07 <DavidWHodgins> Nope. :-)
20:44:15 <MrsB> pack it in then :P
20:44:17 <brian_> ditto
20:44:18 <wilcal> I can help brian
20:44:22 <MrsB> \o/
20:44:33 <Kernewes> wilcal: you've become a mentor while you were away
20:44:35 <wilcal> wilcal.int@gmail.com
20:45:00 <MrsB> we can have mentoring updates then in the meeting again :)
20:45:05 <DavidWHodgins> #info wilcal will mentor brian.
20:45:18 <brian_> I'll Email wilcal - you'll see brtians1
20:45:24 <MrsB> thanks wilcal
20:46:12 <MrsB> Are there any questions or issues with testing updates, everbody ok?
20:46:43 <olivier_cc> OK here
20:47:25 <MrsB> ok let's move on then, keep up the great work :)
20:47:27 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Luigi's roundup
20:47:41 <MrsB> Luigi12_work: ping!
20:47:45 <DavidWHodgins> ping Luigi12
20:47:50 <DavidWHodgins> ping Luigi12_lappy
20:48:11 <Luigi12_work> hold on
20:49:16 <Luigi12_work> ok
20:49:30 <MrsB> hi Luigi12_work
20:49:48 <Luigi12_work> python update is packaged, not assigned to QA yet, but it can be tested.  Not sure the ETA for the python3 update, we're waiting on upstream.
20:50:05 <Luigi12_work> tmb is preparing an update for the proprietary nvidia module(s)
20:50:18 <Luigi12_work> couchdb update is sort of packaged but isn't building
20:50:48 <Luigi12_work> gnustep-base and plasma-nm are assigned to packagers to update for issues with those
20:50:50 <wilcal> nvidia stuff has to be tested on real hardware
20:51:02 <Luigi12_work> subversion update is packaged, just waiting for a freeze push in Cauldron before pushing the mga4 update
20:51:07 <Luigi12_work> working on a php update now
20:51:16 <MrsB> #info python/python3 update is almost ready, should be with us soon. There will be new nvidia driver soon.
20:51:16 <Luigi12_work> das ist alles
20:51:44 <MrsB> #info couchdb when it builds, gnustep & plasma-nm waiting on maintainer
20:52:05 <MrsB> #undo
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20:52:10 <MrsB> #info couchdb when it builds, gnustep-base & plasma-nm waiting on maintainer
20:52:26 <MrsB> #info subversion is coming soon too
20:52:35 <MrsB> #info and php
20:52:46 <MrsB> thankyou Luigi12_work
20:53:00 <olivier_cc> what about glibc ?
20:53:12 <Luigi12_work> dunno, tmb's not here
20:53:25 <MrsB> he's still on mobile internets isn't he
20:53:28 <Luigi12_work> did see a new CVE for glibc, so maybe there will be an update
20:54:04 <olivier_cc> ok
20:54:54 <MrsB> anybody want to add anything?
20:55:04 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Anything else?
20:55:09 <MrsB> cool
20:55:14 <MrsB> Is there anything else?
20:55:23 <DavidWHodgins> Not here
20:55:43 <MrsB> all asleep
20:55:47 <olivier_cc> I'm good
20:56:13 <wilcal> not from me are we gonna meet on Christmas Day
20:56:19 <DavidWHodgins> ☺
20:56:25 <MrsB> Thanks for coming then everyone, we're doign well so let's keep it going :)
20:56:30 <MrsB> no not xmas day
20:56:35 <MrsB> take a day off ;)
20:56:41 <MrsB> or an afternoon maybe
20:56:51 <wilcal> How about New Years DAy
20:57:11 <MrsB> hmm not decided, let's see how many are sobre
20:57:12 <DavidWHodgins> Should we skip it for a week or hold it on a different day?
20:57:31 <wilcal> ok a maybe in 2-weeks
20:57:46 <MrsB> we' can sort it out by email later anyway
20:58:26 <MrsB> #info There won't be a meeting on December 25th. Let's see who is sober for new years day
20:58:49 <MrsB> Is there anythign else else?
20:59:09 <tarazed> Wishing everybody a very happy Christmas
20:59:18 <wilcal> always here to ask questions
20:59:26 <MrsB> yes well said tarazed
20:59:39 <wilcal> Merry Holidays!!!!
20:59:42 <brian_> thank you - everyone as well
20:59:46 <MrsB> #info May you all have a magical Christmas!
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21:00:16 <MrsB> #endmeeting