19:02:22 <DavidWHodgins> #startmeeting
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19:02:30 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Who's New? - If you are new to the team come and say hello
19:02:50 <DavidWHodgins> Anyone here who hasn't been to a qa team irc meeting before?
19:02:54 <lewyssmith> [Liv e in hope].
19:03:38 <DavidWHodgins> Doesn't look like it.
19:03:42 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Mageia 5 - Alpha 2
19:04:37 <lewyssmith> Have seen no announcements.
19:04:38 <DavidWHodgins> The classic iso images were built yesterday. I've sent an article to the discuss mailing list with the rename commands.
19:05:08 <DavidWHodgins> I've also just sent a reminder to change the release in the dorsync script.
19:05:39 <lewyssmith> Haven't received either, but doubtless will.
19:06:02 <DavidWHodgins> #info The pad is at https://pad.riseup.net/p/mageia5alpha2 and also has the rename commands thanks to dvg.
19:06:03 <[mbot> [ Riseup Pad ]
19:06:42 <DavidWHodgins> Any questions about iso testing?
19:06:53 <lewyssmith> Not from me.
19:07:31 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Testing Updates
19:07:59 <DavidWHodgins> We have a long list of updates to test. We really need more people to help with the testing.
19:08:30 <DavidWHodgins> marja: Please do add the ok entry to the whiteboard for any updates you've tested.
19:09:17 <lewyssmith> I look at some and find the applications both unkwon & huge e.g. Drupal; or just enigmatic e.g. ansible.
19:09:53 <diogenese> New mediawiki update is out. I'll start getting ready to test that.
19:09:54 <DavidWHodgins> If you check the prior updates for drupal, I know there is a test procedure given.
19:10:43 <DavidWHodgins> ansible I don't remember having ever tested before, so it will likely require some research to figure out how to test it.
19:10:52 <lewyssmith> I did that. But you have to have the thing installed & be able to drive it. The old info I found was not too helpful.
19:11:29 <DavidWHodgins> I guess we need to write updated/better test documentation for that one then.
19:11:40 <Tonyb> At some point in the meeting, can we talk about getting M5 bootable in UEFI?
19:12:10 <DavidWHodgins> Tonyb: Sure. Let's leave that to the anything else section though.
19:12:21 <lewyssmith> Good.
19:13:03 <DavidWHodgins> I think Claire's article on the mailing list covered most of what I would have said, so I'll leave it at that, and go on.
19:13:12 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Luigi's Roundup
19:13:23 <DavidWHodgins> Luigi12_work: ping
19:13:34 <DavidWHodgins> Luigi12_lappy: ping
19:14:05 <Luigi12_work> whoa
19:14:12 <DavidWHodgins> :-)
19:14:15 <lewyssmith> Evening David.
19:14:18 <diogenese> :
19:14:21 <diogenese> :)
19:14:44 <Luigi12_work> ansible has a recent update that we did, so it has a test procedure
19:15:08 <lewyssmith> Does it not require a network?
19:15:16 <Luigi12_work> before I get to the roundup, I want to make sure everyone saw my message to qa-discuss
19:15:27 <lewyssmith> Which one?
19:15:37 <Luigi12_work> https://ml.mageia.org/l/arc/qa-discuss/2014-07/msg00152.html
19:15:38 <[mbot> [ qa-discuss - Discussions about QA tasks and requests - arc_protect ]
19:15:44 <Luigi12_work> please take a few minutes to read that
19:16:52 <DavidWHodgins> Ouch! The pending updates list is very long too.
19:17:14 <lewyssmith> luigi12_w
19:17:31 <lewyssmith> Luigi12_work: I only see last week' message.
19:17:43 <Luigi12_work> just click the link
19:17:49 <Luigi12_work> https://ml.mageia.org/l/arc/qa-discuss/2014-07/msg00152.html
19:17:50 <[mbot> [ qa-discuss - Discussions about QA tasks and requests - arc_protect ]
19:18:13 <DavidWHodgins> I haven't gotten anything in the mailing list from you since the 24th as well.
19:18:31 <Luigi12_work> probably in your spam folders
19:18:42 <lewyssmith> As he says - follow the link, it shows it.
19:20:15 <lewyssmith> I *did* readline, as you know.
19:20:51 <Luigi12_work> if anyone has an objection to any of those suggested validates, please raise it on the list in the next 17 hours or so.  If I see no objections to any of them by tomorrow morning I'll validate them all.
19:21:38 <DavidWHodgins> Already created a filter to ensure your messages don't end up in my gmail spam folder. I use pop3 to get messages from gmail. Just checed for mail again, and the message finally showed up.
19:21:38 <Luigi12_work> next topic, glibc/kernel updates.  I'm having a hard time following the comments on those.  Have there been any issues raised, or are they looking good?
19:22:14 <DavidWHodgins> No issues here, on Mageia 4 x86_64
19:22:17 <lewyssmith> Bill tested all the kernels, I think.
19:23:33 <lewyssmith> Me too just vreceived the 2 msgs.
19:23:58 <Luigi12_work> ok.  I don't think anyone's tested glibc on mga3 since it was rebuilt.  Let's please make the glibc/kernel updates as well as the gcc update (just updated again right before the meeting) a priority so that we can get that validated by the end of the weekend
19:24:17 <Luigi12_work> the gcc update is being used to build any future updates in updates_testing anyway, so we should get that pushed ASAP
19:24:34 <Luigi12_work> plus ISO testing is about to begin, so we need to have these important updates cleared
19:24:51 <DavidWHodgins> #info the gcc and glibc updates are high priority
19:25:19 <lewyssmith> I thought both just got released anyway.
19:25:36 <Luigi12_work> ?
19:25:37 <DavidWHodgins> I'm currently syncing the alpha2 iso images
19:25:46 <lewyssmith> At least both got updated chez-moi yesterday.
19:26:04 <Luigi12_work> chez-moi?
19:26:22 <lewyssmith> At my place.
19:26:32 <frames_> Sorry I'm late - Claire
19:26:35 <Luigi12_work> the gcc update for mga3 is actually still being built right now
19:26:44 <frames_> *Claire's e-mail guilted me into coming :)
19:26:45 <Luigi12_work> so it'll be a few hours before it's available
19:26:54 <lewyssmith> OK.
19:27:04 <DavidWHodgins> frames_: Welcome!
19:28:09 <Luigi12_work> my last topic, pending updates.  We'll have another round of PHP updates coming (again!?).  Zarafa is being worked on, held up by a build issue (boost related).  The apache-mod_wsgi package should get patched soon hopefully too.
19:28:46 <Luigi12_work> also we'll have kdelibs4 security issues to fix.  mga3 update is in QA.  mga4 update is *still* held up since the council seems to have disbanded for July
19:28:58 <Luigi12_work> so hopefully it'll get back together soon
19:29:05 <Luigi12_work> that's all I have
19:29:08 <Luigi12_work> any questions for me?
19:29:41 <DavidWHodgins> Luigi12_work: Thanks. No questions here.
19:29:42 <Luigi12_work> oh, coling's working on an update for pulseaudio as well, so that should be coming soon
19:29:56 <Luigi12_work> and mythtv
19:30:34 <DavidWHodgins> Thanks again. Shall we move on?
19:30:37 <lewyssmith> luigi12-work/ No; but I like your security bug summaries.
19:30:51 <lewyssmith> DavidWHodgins: Yes.
19:30:57 <DavidWHodgins> #topic Anything Else?
19:31:12 <Tonyb> UEFI boot
19:31:25 <DavidWHodgins> Have you seen https://wiki.mageia.org/en/UEFI_how-to
19:32:09 <Tonyb> Problems much deeper than that.  I'm lokced in neverland: M5alpha1 wont't boot in UEFI
19:32:45 <Tonyb> and doing non-UEFI install fails because generates wrong UUID for the raid0 partition
19:33:35 <DavidWHodgins> Ah. I remember the message on the qa discuss mailing list. I've never tried raid with uefi, and only rarely tried uefi at all.
19:34:14 <Tonyb> I can install stuff to the partition, but boot fails because grub2 seems to hard-code the UUID in install, and its wrong
19:34:42 <lewyssmith> Tonyb: You are really in the deep end with this. I did not understand half of what you mentioned.
19:34:42 <DavidWHodgins> Tonyb: We might have to wait for tmb to get healthy enough to help. I know he has a uefi system, and knows a lot more about uefi and raid than I do.
19:35:14 <Tonyb> Colin gave a good first response to my msg re this in Dev, but hasn't had time to get back to it I think
19:35:36 <frames_> Last time I talked to tmb, he said he had a big UEFI fix in the works
19:35:50 <Tonyb> bring it on!
19:35:56 <frames_> not sure if it was the RAID-related bug, but this one for sure: https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13471
19:35:57 <[mbot> Bug 13471: major, High, bugsquad, NEW , partial display on screen (preventing completing the installation) with UEFI
19:36:07 <DavidWHodgins> There are very few people using uefi and raid together. Is this bios raid, or software raid?
19:37:25 <Tonyb> Issues are that dmraid then p[artprobe reate correct device and partitions.  mgadm creates them not in /dev/mapper but in /dev/md.  No partitions seen
19:38:22 <Tonyb> I think the Live_DVD install may not see the partitions in /dev/md, despite them booing mountable
19:38:52 <Tonyb> not being mountable
19:39:34 <DavidWHodgins> Regarding bug 13471, that looks to me like a problem with the graphics driver.
19:39:35 <[mbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13471 major, High, bugsquad, NEW , partial display on screen (preventing completing the installation) with UEFI
19:40:03 <DavidWHodgins> Tonyb: Please try one of the alpha2 classical installer iso images, to see if it's been fixed.
19:40:25 <Tonyb> Currently M5alpha1 starts in UEFI but crashes out to the dracut prompt
19:40:41 <Tonyb> Dave: will do
19:40:54 <DavidWHodgins> Tonyb: Thanks
19:41:15 <DavidWHodgins> Anyone else have anything else?
19:41:37 <lewyssmith> Not today.
19:41:45 <DavidWHodgins> 5
19:41:49 <DavidWHodgins> 4
19:41:53 <DavidWHodgins> 3
19:41:56 <lewyssmith> Thanks Dave & David.
19:41:58 <DavidWHodgins> 2
19:42:02 <DavidWHodgins> 1
19:42:04 <frames_> DavidWHodgins: Yeah, think it's a prob with ncurses
19:42:10 <Tonyb> Thanks to all
19:42:21 <DavidWHodgins> Thanks everyone.
19:42:27 <DavidWHodgins> #endmeeting