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19:06:07 <MrsB> #chair wilcal
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19:06:13 <sebsebseb> hi
19:06:14 <MrsB> Morning everybody
19:06:15 <sebsebseb> hi
19:06:18 <MrsB> sebsebseb:
19:06:19 <wilcal> Morn'n
19:06:21 <Kernewes> sebsebseb: hi Seb
19:06:27 <wilcal> Hi ya Sebseb
19:06:35 * sebsebseb is quite tired since got back from a few days in Iceland today
19:06:44 <MrsB> nice
19:06:47 <wilcal> Kool Iceland
19:06:54 <wilcal> only flown over it
19:06:56 <MrsB> positively chilly
19:07:06 <Kernewes> would love to go there
19:07:10 <sebsebseb> wilcal: yeah  been on your plate :D  North  American plate and Euroasian
19:07:19 <MrsB> #topic Who's new?
19:07:29 <MrsB> Is anybody new today?
19:07:33 <sebsebseb> yes weather was a bit chilly,  but  still got sun burn yesterday
19:07:34 <Kernewes> wishful thinking again
19:07:35 <sebsebseb> or a bit of that
19:08:01 <MrsB> doesn't look to be any new names in the list
19:08:15 <MrsB> hi tmb
19:08:16 <Kernewes> have you tried investing in a large magnet?
19:08:26 <tmb> hi
19:08:28 <wilcal> hello tmb
19:08:30 <Kernewes> tmb: hi
19:08:41 <MrsB> #topic Luigi's Roundup
19:08:48 <Luigi12_work> ooh
19:08:57 <lewyssmith> Hello David
19:09:02 <MrsB> In a break from the schedule we're doing this bit first so David can skidadle
19:09:14 <Luigi12_work> only security update assigned to QA currently is tor, MrsB has linked a testing procedure
19:09:15 <wilcal> quick on your feet Luigi
19:09:30 <MrsB> that's an easy one to test
19:09:47 <Luigi12_work> as usual, the pending list is https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=comp:secu+-@qa-b
19:09:51 <lewyssmith> I am stuck on the last bit.
19:10:02 <Luigi12_work> I need help with those.  Nothing imminent from me without any help.
19:10:05 <MrsB> which bit lewis?
19:10:13 <RemyServices> I'll try it too here in a few hours
19:10:19 <MrsB> which ones David, lets add an info thing
19:10:45 <lewyssmith> From "Added FoxyProxy addon to firefox..." onwards. Does not mean anything to me.
19:11:05 <Luigi12_work> need feedback from tv for libxfont.  It doesn't build in Cauldron and I'd like to know if it's OK to disable xfs support for mga3/mga4.
19:11:07 <RemyServices> The tor client, I may or may not have a node I can upgrade to test
19:11:12 <Kernewes> foxyproxy, love that name
19:11:13 <MrsB> ok, well you don't need to add foxyproxy, you can just alter the proxy settings in the browser
19:11:46 <lewyssmith> To what? localhost:9050 ?
19:12:04 <Luigi12_work> Bruno Cornec is the maintainer for dpkg, ansible, and sos, so he needs to work on those
19:12:09 <MrsB> is that what it says, can't remember off the top of my head?
19:12:37 <Luigi12_work> spturtle is the maintainer for sendmail and iceape, so hopefully he'll come around soonish and update those
19:13:00 <Luigi12_work> chromium-browser-stable is waiting on Anssi's Pepper Flash solution
19:13:20 <Luigi12_work> freerdp and directfb are waiting on upstream actually
19:13:45 <Luigi12_work> tomcat I'll get to eventually if dmorgan doesn't beat me
19:14:11 <Luigi12_work> perl-LWP-Protocol-https could use some feedback from jquelin
19:14:26 <Luigi12_work> nodejs is coincoin's
19:14:55 <Luigi12_work> not sure if pterjan plans to help with ruby-actionpack again
19:15:17 <Luigi12_work> waiting on feedback from Oden for wordpress
19:15:41 <MrsB> #info Luigi12 needs maintainer help please with dpkg, ansible, and sos (bruno cornec) sendmail and iceape (spturtle) chromium-browser-stable (Anssi for pepper flash) perl-LWP-Protocal-https (jquelin) nodejs (coincoin) ruby-actionpack (pterjan?) wordpress (waiting feedback from Oden)
19:15:44 <Luigi12_work> not sure what to do with qemu, especially for mga3.  Would be nice if joequant would chime in
19:16:17 <MrsB> #info also qemu in mga3 joequant please help out :)
19:16:23 <Luigi12_work> tv was the last to update prosody, it'd be nice if he could look into it
19:16:28 <MrsB> he's usually quite responsive
19:16:40 <MrsB> joequant
19:16:57 <Luigi12_work> waiting on pidgin and drupal upstreams for another update
19:17:02 <Luigi12_work> boinc-client is coincoin's too
19:17:24 <Luigi12_work> will probably just have to update cups-filters to 1.0.53 for mga4 at some point
19:17:35 <MrsB> #info tv please have a look in on prosody (last to update it)
19:17:40 <Luigi12_work> that covers most of them :o)
19:17:47 <lewyssmith> What a looooong list awaiting.
19:17:47 <MrsB> #info boinc-client (coincoin)
19:17:54 <wilcal> Anytime I see a cups update I get nervious
19:18:06 <Luigi12_work> lol
19:18:07 <MrsB> no rush for any of them while we're testing isos though :P
19:18:17 <wilcal> hold a sec
19:19:03 <wilcal> This is yet to be tested but it works here:
19:19:04 <wilcal> Remote CUPS server not being detected automatically......
19:19:06 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12781
19:19:07 <[mbot> Bug 12781: normal, High, doktor5000, ASSIGNED , Remote CUPS server not being detected automatically, only when searching for hostname, system-config-printer
19:19:07 <wilcal> IMO is really ready to go. Somebody else other then
19:19:09 <wilcal> myself needs to test it. I've been using it for weeks now.
19:19:33 <Luigi12_work> it's not assigned to QA?
19:19:39 <wilcal> That needs to get pushed before we get bit in the behind
19:20:06 <Luigi12_work> packages don't get pushed if they don't get assigned to QA...
19:20:31 <wilcal> Pretty much all of the installed base of M4 can't run a CUPS server without the update
19:20:54 <Luigi12_work> any questions for me?
19:21:02 <wilcal> Not from me
19:21:14 <MrsB> Thanks David
19:21:19 <Kernewes> thanks David
19:21:26 <lewyssmith> Ditto.
19:21:39 <MrsB> #topic Mageia 4.1
19:21:47 <MrsB> so, the big one..
19:21:56 <wilcal> I finally rsync'd my copy here today
19:22:14 <MrsB> tmb we noticed you building kernels, are they intended for the ISOs?
19:22:15 <Kernewes> how do I get at it?
19:22:19 <wilcal> I have successfully run all the live media in Vbox this morning
19:22:21 <lewyssmith> Are we clear about the source directory?
19:23:05 <Kernewes> lewyssmith: what do you mean?
19:23:19 <lewyssmith> Where to rsync *from*.
19:23:23 <wilcal> rsync://isoqa@bcd.mageia.org/isos/mageia4-v2/ correct?
19:23:30 <MrsB> that's it yes
19:23:52 <lewyssmith> Can xe have a maillist reminder please?
19:23:55 <wilcal> I rsync'd up with it about 5-hours ago
19:23:58 <MrsB> I'd like to find out if they will be updated again before we get into it properly though
19:24:15 <tmb> MrsB, yes, as isos have to be rebuilt to pick up latest security issues, a few more security and hw related issues has been squashed in the last kernel I just built
19:24:23 <Kernewes> can we have a reminder of the password etc?
19:24:26 <wilcal> I've also successfully installed both Live-CD's ( in Vbox )
19:24:33 <lewyssmith> There was something about kernel updates again.
19:24:42 <MrsB> OK guys, wait a mo please
19:24:54 * Kernewes removes hands from keyboard
19:25:12 <MrsB> Thomas is building new kernels which we'll need to get tested so they can go onto new ISOs
19:25:28 <MrsB> This happened last time too :\
19:25:45 <lewyssmith> Seems it needs doing before testing the ISOs.
19:26:08 <MrsB> hopefully we'll get the weekend to test them and new ISOs built and we can drop on to ISO testing next week
19:26:26 <tmb> there will also be some nvidia, intel and fglrx updates to cope with new hw now available
19:26:53 <MrsB> #info kernels are being built which are intended for the ISOs. We'll need to test them (hopefully get the weekend to do that) and new ISOs will be built
19:27:00 <wilcal> Where is the Etherpad for mageia4-v2 now?
19:27:02 <tmb> well, the isos will be rebuilt with the new kernel too as that also tests the kernel
19:27:36 <tmb> I hope to have new isos out tomorrow
19:27:38 <lewyssmith> wilcal: Another maillist item.
19:27:57 <MrsB> #info Please test the kernels ASAP so we can get things moving
19:27:58 <Kernewes> tmb: you mean mga4-v2 isos?
19:28:19 <MrsB> oh ok
19:28:19 <tmb> Kernewes, yes.
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19:28:57 <MrsB> #info We can test the new ISOs and that will count towards testing the main kernel at least.
19:29:12 <MrsB> Is it a high priority kernel update tmb?
19:29:16 <Kernewes> that's helpful
19:30:05 <MrsB> #info New ISOs should be available tomorrow
19:30:49 <tmb> well, there is a debate on oss-sec about the severity on one of the issues, but the quick fix for us is to disable the offending AUDITSYSCALL supprt, so we wont get hit by the rest of the CVEs it will have
19:31:18 <tmb> but for now I only push the mga4 kernel that is intended for mga4.1 isos
19:31:39 <MrsB> please. I'd hoped the list wouldn't grow too much while we were testing isos
19:32:14 <tmb> yep
19:32:45 <tmb> for those with intel GPU, I've pushed this: https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13428
19:32:47 <[mbot> Bug 13428: normal, Normal, qa-bugs, NEW , update request: removal of X memory leak in Intel video driver, x11-driver-video-intel-2.99.907-2.mga4.src.rpm
19:33:22 <MrsB> wilcal lewis that's you isn't it?
19:33:46 <lewyssmith> Not me. I have ATI/AMD.
19:34:10 <tmb> the nvidia-current driver will be updated as it confirmedly have squashed some rendering issues in mga4
19:34:17 <wilcal> One of my testing platforms ( 32-bit ) is an Intel GPU
19:34:35 <MrsB> intel/nvidia ?
19:35:21 <wilcal> Here tiz:
19:35:22 <wilcal> Intel, P4 530J 3.0 GHz, 800MHz FSB, 1MB L2, LGA 775
19:35:24 <wilcal> GigaByte  GA-81915G Pro F4  i915G  LGA 775  MoBo
19:35:25 <wilcal> Marvel Yukon 88E8001 Gigabit LAN
19:35:27 <wilcal> Intel High Def Audio, Azalia (C-Media 9880) (snd-hda-intel)
19:35:28 <wilcal> Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900 (Intel 82915G)
19:36:01 <wilcal> Here's the other one:
19:36:02 <wilcal> Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz
19:36:03 <MrsB> #info There are fixes also for an intel GPU memory leak and updated nvidia-current to squash some rendering issues
19:36:04 <wilcal> GIGABYTE GA-Z68X-UD3-B3 LGA 1155 MoBo
19:36:05 <wilcal> GIGABYTE GV-N440D3-1GI Nvidia GeForce GT 440 (Fermi) 1GB
19:36:07 <wilcal> RTL8111/8168B PCI Express 1Gbit Ethernet
19:36:08 <wilcal> 64-bit
19:36:42 <MrsB> sandy bridge, that has intel i htink
19:36:48 <wilcal> Yes
19:37:04 <wilcal> But I'm using an nvidia GPU on that one
19:37:28 <MrsB> yeah, ok well as long as we an test on intel/nvidia/amd we're doing ok
19:37:36 <MrsB> between us
19:37:49 <MrsB> I think one of these units may have intel too
19:37:52 <wilcal> And lots of baseball games on TV to chew up the time
19:37:56 <MrsB> lol
19:37:59 <tmb> the fglrx driver changes I'm still reviewing
19:38:13 <MrsB> Is everybody clear about what is happening?
19:38:27 <lewyssmith> I think so.
19:38:31 <Kernewes> sort of
19:38:48 <wilcal> Yep, probably should send out a special notice on qa-discuss when they hit
19:38:53 <Kernewes> can I have a reminder of the password for rsync?
19:39:05 <MrsB> yeah, i'll send something in the morning too
19:39:17 <tmb> I will mail qa-discuss when the isos are available
19:39:22 <MrsB> sure kernewes, are you gmx now?
19:39:32 <Kernewes> yes
19:40:21 <Kernewes> what's the priority testing with 4.1, is it booting from DVDs?
19:40:44 <MrsB> well it's an official release so it has to be tested to the same degree as final release was
19:41:11 <MrsB> we should expect fewer bugs now though
19:41:18 <Kernewes> ok
19:41:23 <lewyssmith> None, surely.
19:41:41 <Kernewes> lewyssmith: when was there ever an OS without any bugs?
19:41:42 <MrsB> anything that's been fixed since release will be included
19:42:08 <wilcal> presently installed M4's should be right along with it all
19:42:19 <lewyssmith> Kernewes: No, of course. But we shall be playing with something relatively mature.
19:42:37 <MrsB> fingers x'd
19:43:09 <MrsB> anybody want to ask anything while tmb is here?
19:43:20 <Kernewes> can't think of anything
19:43:24 <lewyssmith> Not me.
19:43:49 <MrsB> wilcal: ?
19:43:54 <wilcal> not me
19:44:20 <MrsB> hope dvg will help again, he's usually first out of the gate for ISOs :)
19:44:55 <MrsB> that doesn't leave us much to do tonight then.
19:45:01 <MrsB> #topic Anything else?
19:45:12 <MrsB> Is there anything else?
19:45:18 <Kernewes> don't think so
19:45:21 <lewyssmith> Back to bug 11922
19:45:22 <[mbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11922 major, Normal, qa-bugs, NEW , Wrong BuildRequires in tor (The Onion Router), tor-0.2.3.25-3.mga3.src.rpm
19:45:26 <MrsB> yep
19:45:57 <lewyssmith> Do not understand how to drive it, despite your instructions in bug 3953.
19:45:58 <[mbot> Bug https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3953 critical, High, qa-bugs, RESOLVED FIXED, security update: tor, tor
19:46:26 <MrsB> It basically acts as a proxy which is running on localhost
19:46:51 <MrsB> you have to tell your browser to route it's traffic through the proxy
19:46:56 <lewyssmith> Why do you say socks5 proxy?
19:47:08 <MrsB> it's just the connection type
19:47:37 <lewyssmith> How do you 'Enabled the tor proxy'?
19:48:08 <MrsB> when it's running from the command line or started as a service, you should be able to connect through it
19:48:26 <MrsB> with your browser set to do so that is
19:48:55 <lewyssmith> So is the command an alternative to starting the service?
19:49:18 <MrsB> yeah, just 'tor' on the command line set it running in the foreground
19:49:29 <lewyssmith> Have done that OK.
19:49:34 <MrsB> service tor start sets it going as a system service
19:49:44 <MrsB> or systemctl start tor.service if you prefer
19:50:05 <lewyssmith> Thanks. Just need to discover making a browser use a proxy!
19:50:21 <MrsB> yeah it's not something you do every day.
19:50:50 <wilcal> Lewis is in charge of documenting this all in 11922  :-))
19:50:50 <lewyssmith> Tor says it is mad to use any but their own browser, normally.
19:51:09 <lewyssmith> Wil do once sorted.
19:51:21 <wilcal> Make it tor for dummies
19:51:27 <MrsB> It's all pretty much documented in 3953 but maybe not clearly enough
19:51:37 <Kernewes> and then I'll try and remember to make a wiki page of it
19:51:58 <wilcal> Makes next time through a whole lot easier
19:52:12 <lewyssmith> Don't know where Claire got lib64tsocks & tsocks from. Are they necessary?
19:52:18 <MrsB> to set firefox to use a proxy look in prefernces - advanced - network then click the Settings button to Confirgure how firefox connects to the internet
19:52:45 <lewyssmith> I added them because they were cited.
19:53:02 <MrsB> that was an mga1 update
19:53:29 <lewyssmith> So is Tor alone enough? The other 2 things were available & installed.
19:54:19 <MrsB> tor is the package being updated, it doesn't matter what that package requires to work
19:54:47 <lewyssmith> I will try un-installing the other 2 things to see what happens.
19:54:50 <MrsB> the list is given on the bug (or should be!)
19:55:03 <lewyssmith> It cites just tor.
19:55:22 <MrsB> yeah, packaging has likely changed between mga1 and mga4
19:55:49 <lewyssmith> I simply wonder whether the 2 tsocks things are necessary as well.
19:56:02 <MrsB> if they are then urpmi tor will bring them in as requires
19:56:30 <MrsB> if it doesn't work when you urpmi tor then there is a packaging issue
19:57:06 <MrsB> the dependencies of tor should be automatically installed
19:57:12 <lewyssmith> This is enough on tor.
19:57:21 <MrsB> lol ok.
19:57:30 <MrsB> everybody understand?
19:57:44 <wilcal> yep
19:57:57 <lewyssmith> BTW I do 34-bit MGA4 only (hint to others).
19:58:04 <lewyssmith> 64
19:58:04 <Kernewes> 34 bit?
19:58:12 <Kernewes> ah ok
19:58:12 <lewyssmith> Beat you!
19:58:25 <MrsB> Is there anything else else?
19:58:31 <Kernewes> no no
19:58:34 <wilcal> Not from me
19:58:38 <lewyssmith> Not here.
19:59:07 <wilcal> we are awaiting new isos
19:59:14 <MrsB> Ok then guys, thanks for coming. I'll email to try and get people onto isos in the morning and Kernewes after the meeting
19:59:23 <MrsB> T-5
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19:59:33 <MrsB> #endmeeting