20:02:44 <wilcal> #startmeeting
20:02:44 <Inigo_Montoya> Meeting started Thu Feb 20 20:02:44 2014 UTC.  The chair is wilcal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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20:02:56 <wilcal> looks cool
20:03:14 <wilcal> Is there anyone new in here that hasn't been here before
20:04:34 <wilcal> Guess not
20:05:40 <wilcal> Probably best to see if anyone has
20:05:43 <wilcal> #topic Testing Updates
20:06:15 <wilcal> This list ha been cut down considerably from last weekend
20:08:41 <wilcal> About half of them are "QA team waiting for packager feedback"
20:10:20 <wilcal> Anyone have anything for the record here
20:12:02 <wilcal> Lets see if Luigi wants to put something in here
20:12:12 <wilcal> #topic Luigi's Roundup
20:12:56 <wilcal> Ping you there Luigi?
20:14:31 <wilcal> OK probably best to wrap this and do again next week
20:14:34 <diogenese> Maybe not always...
20:15:06 <wilcal> No MrsB and/or David makes for a very short meeting
20:15:40 <wilcal> Anyway I'm gonna poke at some of the Updates testing today and over the weekend
20:15:43 <diogenese> Sometimes they are even with them here.
20:16:15 <wilcal> I'm gonna close it out but stick here for awhile
20:16:20 <Akien> Best to ping Luigi this way: Luigi12_lappy, Luigi12_work
20:16:44 <wilcal> Sorry I've never done that before how to ping
20:17:15 <Akien> wilcal: You just write the name of the user as shown in the user list
20:17:24 <Akien> (typically on the right side of your IRC client)
20:17:59 <wilcal> "#ping Luigi12_lappy" like that
20:18:18 <diogenese> And tab complete adds the nifty : after the nick.
20:18:41 <Akien> Just like that:
20:18:42 <Akien> Akien:
20:18:51 <Akien> ("ak" + TAB)
20:18:59 <wilcal> #ping Luigi12_lappy
20:19:22 <wilcal> Luigi12_lappy
20:19:41 <Luigi12_work> oh hi there
20:19:50 <Luigi12_work> didn't know the meeting was still  happening
20:19:53 <wilcal> Which ping worked
20:20:03 <diogenese> Anything with his nick.
20:20:04 <wilcal> I volunteered to do something offficial
20:20:17 * mga4gazer waves hello
20:20:23 <wilcal> Hi Luigi
20:20:39 <wilcal> Anything on the Updates list super important
20:21:00 <Luigi12_work> treegazer: please ping Anssi in #mageia-dev if there's a Flash update
20:21:02 <wilcal> Lot of them waiting for input
20:21:28 <Luigi12_work> yeah the freeradius one is pretty serious but doesn't affect many users
20:21:47 <Luigi12_work> so the imagemagick one would be the priority
20:22:13 <wilcal> Those are both apps I think
20:22:26 <Luigi12_work> python-numpy would be next after that since a lot of users have that installed (it is a minor issue though)
20:22:36 <wilcal> List is down considerably from a week ago
20:22:44 <Luigi12_work> nothing else too important
20:23:04 <Luigi12_work> some others coming soonish
20:23:15 <Luigi12_work> zarafa probably at the end of the week, a critical issue
20:23:30 <Luigi12_work> file and php hopefully soon
20:23:32 <wilcal> I listen to a weekly securing Podcast and didn't hear anything new on Flash
20:23:42 <wilcal> security Podcast
20:23:46 <Luigi12_work> subversion just waiting on upstream for 1.7.x (Mageia 3)
20:24:22 <Luigi12_work> and maybe tomcat and some Java packages, and perhaps things like otrs, zabbix, imapsync, egroupware at some point
20:24:37 <Luigi12_work> that's all
20:24:59 <wilcal> I'll poke at the freeradius and imagemagick things see if I can do some good there
20:25:08 <wilcal> kool
20:25:34 <wilcal> My only issue is some concern over CUPS but that can wait till next week
20:25:59 <wilcal> CUPS M4 works with M4 and maybe nothing else
20:26:05 <Luigi12_work> yeah there's some printing issues in mga4 apparently
20:26:42 <Luigi12_work> I thought the cups-browsed service was supposed to allow interacting with older CUPS
20:26:54 <Luigi12_work> but if not, there's probably not much we can do, the old protocol was removed upstream
20:27:11 <treegazer> Luigi12_work: understood, I will watch out for it
20:27:13 <wilcal> "supposed to" don't work this time
20:27:42 <wilcal> My concern is building an M4 print server that Ubuntu or Suse or whatever can't use
20:27:56 <wilcal> More testing here
20:28:02 <Luigi12_work> all distros would be affected
20:28:13 <Luigi12_work> this wouldn't be just a Mageia problem
20:28:14 <wilcal> Yep, I hear some upstream problems
20:28:27 <Luigi12_work> it's not a "problem" it was a conscious choice
20:28:44 <wilcal> Probably wouldn't be but our users experiance it
20:28:50 <Luigi12_work> the question is there anything we can do about it, I'm not sure
20:28:55 <wilcal> I agree
20:29:32 <wilcal> I'm still retaining my "old" M3 print server that both M3 & M4 can use just fine
20:29:51 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12137
20:29:53 <wilcal> and
20:29:53 <[mbot> Bug 12137: normal, High, doktor5000, ASSIGNED , Remote CUPS server not being detected automatically, only when searching for hostname, system-config-printer
20:29:54 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12781
20:29:55 <[mbot> Bug 12781: normal, High, doktor5000, ASSIGNED , Remote CUPS server not being detected automatically, only when searching for hostname, system-config-printer
20:30:26 <Luigi12_work> yeah it sounds like there's other issues with ghostscript, hplip, and system-config-printer
20:31:14 <Luigi12_work> anyway if there's no more questions, i guess you can close the meeting...might want to make a few #info things first
20:31:22 <bert__> anyone interested in nVIDIA 331.49 that solves startup issues of e.g. kwrite
20:31:28 <wilcal> Thanks Luigi
20:31:54 <wilcal> I've officially installed M4 on my Nvidia video editing platform and not having any issues at all
20:32:00 <Luigi12_work> #info imagemagick would be the most important of the available updates right now.  Freeradius is slightly more serious but impacts less people
20:32:15 <Luigi12_work> #info python-numpy would be the most important of the low severity ones
20:32:21 <Luigi12_work> not sure if this is working :o)
20:32:23 <wilcal> Yep the Gparted thing and the Kwrite thing but easy work arounds
20:32:27 <Luigi12_work> maybe you have to be a chair
20:33:12 <wilcal> After 40 years in my Career being "Mr. Responsible" I'm uncomfortable being "Chair" :-))
20:33:24 <Luigi12_work> #info coming soon, file, php, zarafa, and maybe subversion, tomcat, some java stuff, otrs, zabbix, imapsync, egroupware....
20:33:33 <wilcal> I'm retired now no longer Mr Responsible
20:33:37 <Luigi12_work> wilcal: try copying my info statements
20:33:51 <Luigi12_work> wilcal: you started the meeting, so you're the only chair, only you can do #info or close the meeteing I think
20:34:19 <wilcal> Will do in
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20:34:32 <Luigi12_work> info first
20:34:32 <wilcal> 2
20:34:34 <Luigi12_work> then end
20:34:54 <wilcal> Ya I copied the info stuff
20:35:03 <Luigi12_work> you have to paste it too :P
20:35:31 <wilcal> #info imagemagick would be the most important of the available updates right now.  Freeradius is slightly more serious but impacts less people
20:35:40 <Luigi12_work> without a space before it
20:35:40 <wilcal> #info python-numpy would be the most important of the low severity ones
20:35:50 <wilcal> #info coming soon, file, php, zarafa, and maybe subversion, tomcat, some java stuff, otrs, zabbix, imapsync, egroupware....
20:35:55 <Luigi12_work> I don't think those worked either
20:36:16 <wilcal> #info imagemagick would be the most important of the available updates right now.  Freeradius is slightly more serious but impacts less people
20:36:36 <Luigi12_work> hmm, I guess you can't be sure...I thought the bot gave you some feedback
20:36:39 <wilcal> I think their all in the log
20:36:45 <Luigi12_work> guess we'll find out
20:36:52 <wilcal> yep
20:36:56 <wilcal> count down again
20:36:57 <Luigi12_work> ok, doneskies then
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20:37:18 <wilcal> #endmeeting