20:02:44 <wilcal> #startmeeting 20:02:44 <Inigo_Montoya> Meeting started Thu Feb 20 20:02:44 2014 UTC. The chair is wilcal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:02:44 <Inigo_Montoya> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 20:02:56 <wilcal> looks cool 20:03:14 <wilcal> Is there anyone new in here that hasn't been here before 20:04:34 <wilcal> Guess not 20:05:40 <wilcal> Probably best to see if anyone has 20:05:43 <wilcal> #topic Testing Updates 20:06:15 <wilcal> This list ha been cut down considerably from last weekend 20:08:41 <wilcal> About half of them are "QA team waiting for packager feedback" 20:10:20 <wilcal> Anyone have anything for the record here 20:12:02 <wilcal> Lets see if Luigi wants to put something in here 20:12:12 <wilcal> #topic Luigi's Roundup 20:12:56 <wilcal> Ping you there Luigi? 20:14:31 <wilcal> OK probably best to wrap this and do again next week 20:14:34 <diogenese> Maybe not always... 20:15:06 <wilcal> No MrsB and/or David makes for a very short meeting 20:15:40 <wilcal> Anyway I'm gonna poke at some of the Updates testing today and over the weekend 20:15:43 <diogenese> Sometimes they are even with them here. 20:16:15 <wilcal> I'm gonna close it out but stick here for awhile 20:16:20 <Akien> Best to ping Luigi this way: Luigi12_lappy, Luigi12_work 20:16:44 <wilcal> Sorry I've never done that before how to ping 20:17:15 <Akien> wilcal: You just write the name of the user as shown in the user list 20:17:24 <Akien> (typically on the right side of your IRC client) 20:17:59 <wilcal> "#ping Luigi12_lappy" like that 20:18:18 <diogenese> And tab complete adds the nifty : after the nick. 20:18:41 <Akien> Just like that: 20:18:42 <Akien> Akien: 20:18:51 <Akien> ("ak" + TAB) 20:18:59 <wilcal> #ping Luigi12_lappy 20:19:22 <wilcal> Luigi12_lappy 20:19:41 <Luigi12_work> oh hi there 20:19:50 <Luigi12_work> didn't know the meeting was still happening 20:19:53 <wilcal> Which ping worked 20:20:03 <diogenese> Anything with his nick. 20:20:04 <wilcal> I volunteered to do something offficial 20:20:17 * mga4gazer waves hello 20:20:23 <wilcal> Hi Luigi 20:20:39 <wilcal> Anything on the Updates list super important 20:21:00 <Luigi12_work> treegazer: please ping Anssi in #mageia-dev if there's a Flash update 20:21:02 <wilcal> Lot of them waiting for input 20:21:28 <Luigi12_work> yeah the freeradius one is pretty serious but doesn't affect many users 20:21:47 <Luigi12_work> so the imagemagick one would be the priority 20:22:13 <wilcal> Those are both apps I think 20:22:26 <Luigi12_work> python-numpy would be next after that since a lot of users have that installed (it is a minor issue though) 20:22:36 <wilcal> List is down considerably from a week ago 20:22:44 <Luigi12_work> nothing else too important 20:23:04 <Luigi12_work> some others coming soonish 20:23:15 <Luigi12_work> zarafa probably at the end of the week, a critical issue 20:23:30 <Luigi12_work> file and php hopefully soon 20:23:32 <wilcal> I listen to a weekly securing Podcast and didn't hear anything new on Flash 20:23:42 <wilcal> security Podcast 20:23:46 <Luigi12_work> subversion just waiting on upstream for 1.7.x (Mageia 3) 20:24:22 <Luigi12_work> and maybe tomcat and some Java packages, and perhaps things like otrs, zabbix, imapsync, egroupware at some point 20:24:37 <Luigi12_work> that's all 20:24:59 <wilcal> I'll poke at the freeradius and imagemagick things see if I can do some good there 20:25:08 <wilcal> kool 20:25:34 <wilcal> My only issue is some concern over CUPS but that can wait till next week 20:25:59 <wilcal> CUPS M4 works with M4 and maybe nothing else 20:26:05 <Luigi12_work> yeah there's some printing issues in mga4 apparently 20:26:42 <Luigi12_work> I thought the cups-browsed service was supposed to allow interacting with older CUPS 20:26:54 <Luigi12_work> but if not, there's probably not much we can do, the old protocol was removed upstream 20:27:11 <treegazer> Luigi12_work: understood, I will watch out for it 20:27:13 <wilcal> "supposed to" don't work this time 20:27:42 <wilcal> My concern is building an M4 print server that Ubuntu or Suse or whatever can't use 20:27:56 <wilcal> More testing here 20:28:02 <Luigi12_work> all distros would be affected 20:28:13 <Luigi12_work> this wouldn't be just a Mageia problem 20:28:14 <wilcal> Yep, I hear some upstream problems 20:28:27 <Luigi12_work> it's not a "problem" it was a conscious choice 20:28:44 <wilcal> Probably wouldn't be but our users experiance it 20:28:50 <Luigi12_work> the question is there anything we can do about it, I'm not sure 20:28:55 <wilcal> I agree 20:29:32 <wilcal> I'm still retaining my "old" M3 print server that both M3 & M4 can use just fine 20:29:51 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12137 20:29:53 <wilcal> and 20:29:53 <[mbot> Bug 12137: normal, High, doktor5000, ASSIGNED , Remote CUPS server not being detected automatically, only when searching for hostname, system-config-printer 20:29:54 <wilcal> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12781 20:29:55 <[mbot> Bug 12781: normal, High, doktor5000, ASSIGNED , Remote CUPS server not being detected automatically, only when searching for hostname, system-config-printer 20:30:26 <Luigi12_work> yeah it sounds like there's other issues with ghostscript, hplip, and system-config-printer 20:31:14 <Luigi12_work> anyway if there's no more questions, i guess you can close the meeting...might want to make a few #info things first 20:31:22 <bert__> anyone interested in nVIDIA 331.49 that solves startup issues of e.g. kwrite 20:31:28 <wilcal> Thanks Luigi 20:31:54 <wilcal> I've officially installed M4 on my Nvidia video editing platform and not having any issues at all 20:32:00 <Luigi12_work> #info imagemagick would be the most important of the available updates right now. Freeradius is slightly more serious but impacts less people 20:32:15 <Luigi12_work> #info python-numpy would be the most important of the low severity ones 20:32:21 <Luigi12_work> not sure if this is working :o) 20:32:23 <wilcal> Yep the Gparted thing and the Kwrite thing but easy work arounds 20:32:27 <Luigi12_work> maybe you have to be a chair 20:33:12 <wilcal> After 40 years in my Career being "Mr. Responsible" I'm uncomfortable being "Chair" :-)) 20:33:24 <Luigi12_work> #info coming soon, file, php, zarafa, and maybe subversion, tomcat, some java stuff, otrs, zabbix, imapsync, egroupware.... 20:33:33 <wilcal> I'm retired now no longer Mr Responsible 20:33:37 <Luigi12_work> wilcal: try copying my info statements 20:33:51 <Luigi12_work> wilcal: you started the meeting, so you're the only chair, only you can do #info or close the meeteing I think 20:34:19 <wilcal> Will do in 20:34:20 <wilcal> 5 20:34:26 <wilcal> 4 20:34:30 <wilcal> 3 20:34:32 <Luigi12_work> info first 20:34:32 <wilcal> 2 20:34:34 <Luigi12_work> then end 20:34:54 <wilcal> Ya I copied the info stuff 20:35:03 <Luigi12_work> you have to paste it too :P 20:35:31 <wilcal> #info imagemagick would be the most important of the available updates right now. Freeradius is slightly more serious but impacts less people 20:35:40 <Luigi12_work> without a space before it 20:35:40 <wilcal> #info python-numpy would be the most important of the low severity ones 20:35:50 <wilcal> #info coming soon, file, php, zarafa, and maybe subversion, tomcat, some java stuff, otrs, zabbix, imapsync, egroupware.... 20:35:55 <Luigi12_work> I don't think those worked either 20:36:16 <wilcal> #info imagemagick would be the most important of the available updates right now. Freeradius is slightly more serious but impacts less people 20:36:36 <Luigi12_work> hmm, I guess you can't be sure...I thought the bot gave you some feedback 20:36:39 <wilcal> I think their all in the log 20:36:45 <Luigi12_work> guess we'll find out 20:36:52 <wilcal> yep 20:36:56 <wilcal> count down again 20:36:57 <Luigi12_work> ok, doneskies then 20:36:58 <wilcal> 5 20:37:01 <wilcal> 4 20:37:03 <wilcal> 3 20:37:05 <wilcal> 2 20:37:07 <wilcal> 1 20:37:18 <wilcal> #endmeeting